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Castro Deposed!!

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2006 07:16 PM

Ramon has been put on the [u:c283713726]60 Day DL[/u:c283713726] on account of the knee cleansing he just got, effectively ending his season.

I suppose - depending on the timing of things - that a return for a potential WS is possible, but that's assuming you'd want him to come in "cold".



Which all means we've got less than a week to come up with a backup catcher or commit ourselves to DiFelice (or someone else inside the org) for the post-season.

metirish
Aug 24 2006 07:20 PM

I have nothing against DiFelice but I'd be shocked if Omar didn't go and get someone....

Gwreck
Aug 24 2006 07:26 PM

="metirish"]I have nothing against DiFelice


I do.

He seems like a nice enough guy but 6 major league hits since 2003 is a big problem.

OlerudOwned
Aug 24 2006 07:26 PM

Kelly Stinnett: Signed

At least the Tides roster on Minor League Baseball's website says so.

Frayed Knot
Aug 24 2006 07:29 PM

Of course he can't hit either - as anyone who saw the first half of the Yanqui season can attest - but it's better than no one at this point.
I mean Stinnett was so bad that the Yanx opted for Sal Fasano instead.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 24 2006 07:29 PM

OlerudOwned wrote:
Kelly Stinnett: Signed

At least the Tides roster on Minor League Baseball's website says so.


Interesting. Last time the Mets signed Stinnett they released him two or three days later.

SteveJRogers
Aug 24 2006 07:30 PM

Todd Hundley doing anything? As long as we sign ex-mid 1990's Met catchers!

metirish
Aug 24 2006 07:30 PM

]Of course he can't hit either


LOL....

Hillbilly
Aug 24 2006 08:23 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
Todd Hundley doing anything? As long as we sign ex-mid 1990's Met catchers!


I think he's busy drinking somewhere.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 24 2006 08:50 PM

Well, Stinnett wasn't signed to bolster Norfolk's postseason chances if they even have any.

I imagine if he manages to suck only a little they'll hand him DiFelice's job; otherwise they've gotta go find Rod Barajas or Gregg Zaun, in spite of MFS62's objections.

Edgy DC
Aug 24 2006 10:14 PM

SteveJRogers wrote:
Todd Hundley doing anything? As long as we sign ex-mid 1990's Met catchers!


Tim Spehr is everywhere!

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 24 2006 10:32 PM



I couldn't find a picture of Savoir Faire, but here's his nemesis, Klondike Kat.

MFS62
Aug 25 2006 09:46 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
I imagine if he manages to suck only a little they'll hand him DiFelice's job; otherwise they've gotta go find Rod Barajas or Gregg Zaun, in spite of MFS62's objections.


LOL! Good, but selective, memory. You forgot that I added that I would gladly see Barajas on the Mets for the good of the team. As for Zaun, he is awful.

But Stinnett was awful, too - offensively and defensively -when he played for the Yankees earlier this year. I can just hear the Yankee fans, if and when he is added to the roster. The sneers will be led by Suzyn Waldmann, who basically rode him out of town on a rail by highlighting his every failing.

Later

Edgy DC
Aug 25 2006 09:55 AM

Give Tom Nieto 10 minutes with Stinnett.

MFS62
Aug 25 2006 10:02 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
Give Tom Nieto 10 minutes with Stinnett.


I'd rather give Hannibal Lecter 10 minutes with Waldmann.

Later

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 25 2006 10:03 AM

She'd eat him alive.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 25 2006 10:07 AM

]As for Zaun, he is awful.


No he isn't.

MFS62
Aug 25 2006 10:12 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
]As for Zaun, he is awful.


No he isn't.

I think he has a problem playing on a "big stage". I've watched him play more them a few games against the Yankees the past few years, and I only remember him getting one hit- a single. I don't think he has the right stuff. Just my opinion.

Later

OlerudOwned
Aug 25 2006 10:17 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 25 2006 10:18 AM

MFS62 wrote:
="Johnny Dickshot"]
]As for Zaun, he is awful.


No he isn't.

I think he has a problem playing on a "big stage". I've watched him play more them a few games against the Yankees the past few years, and I only remember him getting one hit- a single. I don't think he has the right stuff. Just my opinion.

Later

I don't know, that seems awfully snap-shoty. I just looked through his game log for the season and his hitting vs. Boston and NY doesn't seem to be any worse than par for his course.

As for trading for him, it really wouldn't be neccesary as long as LoDuca is hurt. It would be frivolous if LoDuca stays healthy but ingenious if he suffered an unforseen injury. In other words, it's a crapshoot.

Edgy DC
Aug 25 2006 10:17 AM

MFS62 wrote:
="Edgy DC"]Give Tom Nieto 10 minutes with Stinnett.


I'd rather give Hannibal Lecter 10 minutes with Waldmann.

Later


I don't get it.

And I don't see any reason to buy the "big stage" theory.

metirish
Aug 25 2006 10:21 AM

Zaun for what it's worth is a career .181 hitter versus the MFY,I just took a look through yahoo's list of catchers and the picking are very slim.

MFS62
Aug 25 2006 10:24 AM

As I said, just my opinion based on personal observation. But I guess you could say its a case of limited plate appearances. If the numbers prove me wrong, so be it.
On the other hand, he is a switch hitter. That might come in handy against a tough righty if they want to give LoDuca a rest.

As for the Lecter comment (and the Conan one in the other thread), I'm apparently having an anger management problem today. Please bear with me. :)

Later

Edgy DC
Aug 25 2006 10:34 AM

Zaun, by the way, is a transaction-fanatic's dream. He was a PtBNL early in his career, and later was dealt as part of an even more fascinating specimen, a "conditional deal."

MFS62
Aug 25 2006 11:15 AM

="Edgy DC"]Zaun, by the way, is a transaction-fanatic's dream. He was a PtBNL early in his career, and later was dealt as part of an even more fascinating specimen, a "conditional deal."


He's run the full gamut of transaction types:
Drafted and signed.
Traded (several times)
Traded as part of conditional deal (twice)
Put on waivers/released. (Which means he was DFA)
Declared / signed as a free agent.

Didn't see any suspensions (drug or other reason).
And, he may be the only member of the Blue Jays who hasn't taken a swing at John Gibbons, but we can't verify that.

Later

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2006 08:50 PM

btw, I miscalculated a bit when saying that Castro would be unavailable until around WS time.
The 60-day DL dates back to when he was first put on the 15-Day (it doesn't start anew) meaning he'd be eligible by sometime in late Sept -- meaning we won't neccesarily need to go into the post-season with DiFelice or some other such non-hitting backup.

Of course Willie was quoted as saying that it hardly matters since he's likely to go everyday with the main guy anyway during the playoffs.
Still rather have Ramon off the bench to swing a bat in a pinch even if that's all he does.

Gwreck
Aug 25 2006 11:05 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Of course Willie was quoted as saying that it hardly matters since he's likely to go everyday with the main guy anyway during the playoffs.
Still rather have Ramon off the bench to swing a bat in a pinch even if that's all he does.


Willie is showing some serious ineptitude again with bench management. If he's going everyday with LoDuca, it'd be nice to have a backup who can pinch-hit.

Gwreck
Aug 26 2006 02:37 AM

Update, from the Notes colum on Mets.com:

]The manager expects Castro back by the end of September.

Frayed Knot
Aug 26 2006 10:11 AM

Willie was most likely making a bit of a funny by suggesting that it doesn't matter who the backup catcher will be.
I suspect he was just using the occasion to stress that he'll be going with his main guy in October -- but, of course, if the plan is to never put your backup catcher into the game, having that guy be a classic 'catch-n-throw' catcher would be essentially worthless.

cleonjones11
Aug 26 2006 02:25 PM

Hey...we've lost our two rapists in 24 hours...