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The Chase For the Real Home Run Record
MFS62 Sep 06 2006 10:39 AM |
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Do you agree?
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 06 2006 10:40 AM |
No.
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cooby Sep 06 2006 10:44 AM |
I agree, I heard the Phillies announcers talking about it the other night.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 06 2006 10:45 AM |
Me neither.
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Edgy DC Sep 06 2006 10:48 AM |
I think working with a standard of, "But every reasonable, intelligent and rational person knows otherwise," in place of due process is terrible.
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MFS62 Sep 06 2006 10:51 AM |
I'm torn.
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sharpie Sep 06 2006 11:00 AM |
No. He has to hit 74 homers to hold the home run record.
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soupcan Sep 06 2006 11:05 AM |
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I gotta go with this.
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86-Dreamer Sep 06 2006 11:20 AM |
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what he said.
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HahnSolo Sep 06 2006 11:40 AM |
Not trying to imply anything, but...
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cooby Sep 06 2006 11:42 AM |
Probly cos he's skinnier
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Edgy DC Sep 06 2006 11:47 AM |
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Exactly what I'm getting at. What we have is that Maris' son feels he's clean. The Maris family seemed pretty OK with McGwire in 1998, though.
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Willets Point Sep 06 2006 11:50 AM |
No, the witch hunt technique of saying McGwire, Sosa, and Bonds are evil steroids-abusers when use of performance-enhancing drugs was wide-spread (and possibly still is) is wrong. The end game is that these guys were the best of their era even if that era was tainted and the records. Trying to strip away records of a select few undermines the overall problem. MLB and the media who turned a blind eye to questionable training techniques are just as guilty. The correct thing to do is to prevent use of performance-enhancing drugs now and in the future. You can't change the past.
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seawolf17 Sep 06 2006 12:05 PM |
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Everyone is skinnier than Ryan Howard. And as much as I hate Barry Bonds, his record is still the record.
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 06 2006 12:14 PM |
What gets me more than anything in that article is the writer's eagerness to become a complete dupe as a storefront for the righteous indignation he's selling.
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ABG Sep 06 2006 04:29 PM |
Nobody in this country gives a shit about ex post facto anymore.
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smg58 Sep 06 2006 05:25 PM |
Until baseball finds a way to test for HGH and anything else being used by athletes, you can't make any assumptions about guys being cleaner now. So don't go there.
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Zvon Sep 06 2006 07:03 PM |
Its funny but just this same sentiment occured to me watching the game smacked 3.
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Valadius Sep 11 2006 01:41 PM |
I'm glad I found this, so I can add my two cents.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 11 2006 01:51 PM |
I don't agree with that.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2006 01:57 PM |
Word to Yancy.
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Vic Sage Sep 11 2006 02:08 PM |
Valad is valid.
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Willets Point Sep 11 2006 02:32 PM |
I have no problem with McGwire and Bonds in the Hall where they'll almost certainly end up (unless hard evidence of their guilt is found). As I said in my previous post, punishing a few noteworthy individuals is the witch hunt approach which inevitably leads to the greater problems being swept under a rug. A transparent openeness on the part of MLB, the players association and the sports media that yes, performance-enhancing drugs were commonly used in this sport but now we're making the effort to educate, test, and prevent their use to level the playing field will be much more effective.
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metsmarathon Sep 11 2006 03:28 PM |
i just hate that all these sports writers and broadcasters and fans are lying to themselves and to us that the game is not clean.
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Edgy DC Sep 11 2006 03:38 PM |
I don't really consider taking the facts into account in a Hall of Fame vote punishment. It's not like anybody has a right to a particular honor. You earn it, and the known facts are laid out when judges consider whether you've earned it.
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