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In addition to Beltran, Green, and Chavez, the Mets postseason roster SHOULD include which outfielders?
Floyd, Tucker, and Milledge 2 votes
Floyd and Tucker 5 votes
Floyd and Milledge 16 votes
Tucker and Milledge 0 votes

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 10:42 AM

Another postseason poll with no "wait and see" option.

My assumptions: Beltran, Chavez, and Green will be on the roster, and Ledee won't.

If you feel otherwise, mention in your responses.

Also, I'm asking what choice you would make. If you think Willie and Omar will make a different choice, let us know in your comments.

Vic Sage
Sep 11 2006 10:46 AM

you need a RHed Ofer, so Milledge should be on the roster. As for Floyd, if he's healthy enough, he should be there. Tucker is no more valuable than Ledee. He only makes it if Floyd is DLed.

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 10:46 AM

Willie's gonna want Ledee, but Omar will shut him down.

No WAY is Milledge making the postseason roster.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 10:48 AM

I voted Floyd and Milledge. Even if Endy gets all the starts in left, I wouldn't mind having a somewhat gimpy Floyd as a pinch-hitter.

Milledge is green, but he'd probably provide more than Tucker (or Ledee) would.

seawolf17
Sep 11 2006 10:50 AM

I voted Floyd and Milledge too, although I do like Tucker; thing is, Tucker doesn't give you anything that you don't already have in Endy.

sharpie
Sep 11 2006 10:52 AM

Floyd and Milledge. Milledge is at least useful as a pinch-runner.

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 10:54 AM

Ok, I see where Milledge can be useful as a pinch-runner. But the kid can't HIT yet. He strikes out all the time. I don't trust his bat in the LEAST.

metirish
Sep 11 2006 10:57 AM

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Floyd and Milledge. Milledge is at least useful as a pinch-runner.


I went with Floyd and Milledge,I think it was the game Friday night that Gary said that Willie doesn't see Milledge as a guy coming off the bench to pinch hit in the post-season.

seawolf17
Sep 11 2006 11:07 AM

="metirish"]
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Floyd and Milledge. Milledge is at least useful as a pinch-runner.


I went with Floyd and Milledge,I think it was the game Friday night that Gary said that Willie doesn't see Milledge as a guy coming off the bench to pinch hit in the post-season.

Cliff Floyd as a pinch-hitter, 2003-2006:

0 for 15, 9 K

I'm not saying he can't have a Kirk Gibson moment, but he's more likely to have a Rich Becker moment.

Johnny Dickshot
Sep 11 2006 11:20 AM

]No WAY is Milledge making the postseason roster.


Disagree. Cuz if it truly started today I don't think you could run Floyd out there. In the papers this morning he talks of his own doubts of making it.

Gwreck
Sep 11 2006 12:40 PM

I'd take all 3. I want 11 pitchers, 14 position players.

8 starting positions
Castro
Franco and Woodward
Chavez, Milledge, Tucker

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2006 12:46 PM

Valadius wrote:
Ok, I see where Milledge can be useful as a pinch-runner. But the kid can't HIT yet. He strikes out all the time. I don't trust his bat in the LEAST.

I don't trust anybody's bat until he crosses the plate. It's not about trust, it's about odds; it's about the best chance of helping the team.

MFS62
Sep 11 2006 12:51 PM

="Yancy Street Gang"] Milledge is green, but he'd probably provide more than Tucker (or Ledee) would.


The only thing Ledee would provide to the bench would be some occasional Carbon Dioxide.

Later

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 12:52 PM

And the odds are terrible for Milledge.

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2006 12:58 PM

Bettter than they are for Tucker or Ledee, who'd be unlikely to see any time at all as the fourth and/or fifth best lefthanded hitting corner outfielders.

You may not agree with that, but there isn't "no way" that Milledge makes the squad. There are dozens of ways.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 01:44 PM

13 of 14 CPFers surveyed so far would take Milledge into October. Unless we're all hopelessly out of synch with the way the Mets are thinking, I'd say Lastings has a good shot.

Of course, it's possible that we are all hopelessly out of synch with the way the Mets are thinking. Or at least, that 13 out of 14 of us are.

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 01:49 PM

The odds of Milledge being a Melvin Mora/Timo Perez post-season clone are next-to-none. I don't want him on that roster.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 01:52 PM

If only clones of Timo Perez should be on the roster, the Mets are going to come up short.

Is Michael Tucker a clone of Timo Perez? Of course not. Keep him off the roster!

The same goes for Carlos Delgado too, I assume?

Vic Sage
Sep 11 2006 02:03 PM

Michael Tucker is a dreadful hitter against LHPs. and, at age 35, that's not likely to change. Why on earth would you prefer to carry him over a RHed bat with power potential and speed? Yes, Milledge has been overmatched in the majors so far, but its not like Tucker has lit it up either. And at least Milledge has the potential to do something as a 5th OFer / PHer against LHPs / pinch-runner, unlike Tucker, whose significant limitations have been well-defined over the course of his career.

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2006 02:04 PM

Jeez, hopefully we won't need him to perform as Mora or Perez did. We shouldn't be looking for lightning in a bottle (and if we are, Tucker and Ledee are far less likely to provide it). We're looking for the person most likely to be most useful as an outfield reserve.

This is wierd, as you're far more particular about what you don't want than what you do, among the available options. And you're confusing what you don't with what is likely.

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2006 02:14 PM

Melvin Mora in 1999: .196 / .275 / .413 // .688

Willets Point
Sep 11 2006 02:34 PM

We need an Al Weis-type on the postseason roster too.

sharpie
Sep 11 2006 03:28 PM

]We need an Al Weis-type on the postseason roster too.



Anderson Hernandez raises his hand and says "That's me!"

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 03:29 PM

Ick.

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 03:30 PM

Yikes.

Willets Point
Sep 11 2006 03:31 PM

I was joking you know?

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 03:33 PM

My "Ick" was directed at the thought of Anderson Hernandez on the postseason roster.

Valadius
Sep 11 2006 04:06 PM

As was my "Yikes".

metirish
Sep 11 2006 04:08 PM

With the way Floyd is talking he might pull himself from the team after this week if he feels he can't contribute...I doubt he'd do that but Cliff seems to be in total dispair right now.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 11 2006 04:25 PM

That would leave us with Tucker and Milledge, the one option from above that nobody has voted for yet.

I still think the Mets will reach the World Series, but it looks like it will be a struggle to get there.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 28 2006 10:54 AM

And how are we currently feeling about this one?

I voted Floyd and Milledge originally, and I'm still good with that. I wouldn't object to bringing Tucker along too, but with the way things are going, it might be better to have an extra pitcher in the bullpen.

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2006 11:09 AM

I think Milledge can't be left behind. He hasn't fully found himself yet, but that may be to the Mets advantage. Until he does, he's unscoutable. If he does suddenly find himself, he could unload before they get a chance to adjust.

It's an unknown, but sometimes it's good to have a card face down in your hand. Right now is looking like one of those times.

Tucker? Eh. Five outfielders are fine.

Gwreck
Sep 28 2006 02:20 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Tucker? Eh. Five outfielders are fine.


That 25th spot will probably be claimed by the need to take 12 pitchers (one of whom will be Pedro).

If your bench is limited to Castro, Franco, Woodward, Chavez, +1, I think Milledge is the obvious choice for the last spot.

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2006 02:26 PM

I wouldn't object too much to Anderson.

I'm not really arguing for him. But Woody backs up three positions and all.

Gwreck
Sep 28 2006 02:28 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
I wouldn't object too much to Anderson.

I'm not really arguing for him. But Woody backs up three positions and all.


If they have room for Anderson, would you really want him over Tucker (or Ledee?)

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2006 02:32 PM

I miight, Rabbit. I might.

Franco and whoever isn't starting among among Chavez, Floyd, and Green give you two pinch-hitters, with Milledge a potential third.

The notion of carrying Anderson is (1) Woody is backing up for three positions, and (2) it's harder to pinch-hit for Valentin if they go after him with a good lefty, if there's only one reserve infielder.

That said, I don't distrust Valentine against lefties as much as all that.

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 28 2006 02:33 PM

I wouldn't. I'd prefer Tucker or Ledee to Anderson Hernandez.

I wish they had called up Fonzie. Even if he's not what he used to be, and he certainly isn't, I think he'd be a more useful option (for October 2006 anyway) than Anderson Hernandez.

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2006 02:38 PM

Agreed.