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cooby Sep 07 2006 08:12 PM

Good grief, my husband just told me the Steelers play a real game tonight! I was almost caught without my lucky velvet pants on. It's kinda hot for them, but oh well

KC Sep 07 2006 08:21 PM

>>> I was almost caught without my lucky velvet pants on.<<< I love the way you word things ... and don't call me a pervert again lol.

KC Sep 07 2006 08:26 PM

Oh, and let's go Steelers. Squish the mammals.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 07 2006 08:45 PM

Velvet pants are always hot.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 07 2006 09:29 PM

Steelers go against Madden's wussed-out advice and go for it on 4th-and-1, leading to a TD.

cooby Sep 07 2006 10:20 PM

So far the velvet pants are working. Try to catch Manning's cell phone ad, it's cute. He's a funny guy. For a Colt.

Nymr83 Sep 07 2006 11:15 PM

wow a huge TD pass to heath miller and the steelers are back on top! screw you dolphins!

Nymr83 Sep 07 2006 11:17 PM

hahahah and the dolphims challenge too late!

cooby Sep 07 2006 11:18 PM

HA! Nymr83 you beat me to it!

Nymr83 Sep 07 2006 11:32 PM

Porter just ran back an INT. i hate the dolphins. :)

cooby Sep 07 2006 11:42 PM

The Steelers are really stoked! How important is this Charlie Batch performance to the Steelers? Tommy Maddox was enough to make me sick. Thank god he's gone. Troy Polamalu is just heavenly. Wish he played baseball too.

metirish Sep 08 2006 09:44 AM

I hate Shockey from the Giants,today and every friday his has a column in the NY Post.....IMO few players have gotten more press for doing so little.

MFS62 Sep 08 2006 11:17 AM

metirish wrote: I hate Shockey from the Giants,today and every friday his has a column in the NY Post.....IMO few players have gotten more press for doing so little. It must be a Jint thing. It seemed like center Jim Burtt was always being focused on in tv games, even when he was on the sideline. And now its all-Tiki, All the Time. And even on ESPN radio in New York, the flagship station of the Jets, their on-air promo says "Tiki Barber, Jeremy Shockey and the Jets". UGH. Later

KC Sep 08 2006 12:05 PM

>>>dolphims challenge too late!<<< When they show the replay of this I just laugh out loud. He throws the damn thing like he's pitching a penny - my friends six year old daughter has more giddyap on her fastball than that.

ABG Sep 08 2006 03:44 PM

MFS62 wrote: ="metirish"]I hate Shockey from the Giants,today and every friday his has a column in the NY Post.....IMO few players have gotten more press for doing so little. It must be a Jint thing. It seemed like center Jim Burtt was always being focused on in tv games, even when he was on the sideline. And now its all-Tiki, All the Time. And even on ESPN radio in New York, the flagship station of the Jets, their on-air promo says "Tiki Barber, Jeremy Shockey and the Jets". UGH. Later Odd, because as a Giants fan I always felt like FAN focused nearly exclusively on the Jets. And now they carry the Giant games if I'm not mistaken.

cooby Sep 18 2006 09:23 PM

Big Ben has a fever of 104!

KC Sep 24 2006 02:36 PM

Half the people in a three strike pool I'm in took Miami today. Anyone have any idea why the spread on that game was so high?

Elster88 Sep 24 2006 02:55 PM

Because Tennessee is so terrible. Vegas and gamblers figure Miami's defense, at home, and Tennessee's sucktitude make Miami a huge favorite. And there still could be some Culpepper believers out there. Personally I don't think a team with Culpepper at quarterback should be the favorite ever. I tried to warn my friends who are Dolphin fans but they didn't want to hear me.

cooby Sep 24 2006 04:32 PM

Who would like some size 5 black velvet pants? Formerly lucky.

MFS62 Sep 25 2006 11:23 AM

cooby wrote: Who would like some size 5 black velvet pants? Formerly lucky. Poor baby. Later

cooby Sep 25 2006 11:31 AM

Hey! I sympathized with you over your chair!

MFS62 Sep 25 2006 11:38 AM

cooby wrote: Hey! I sympathized with you over your chair! Sorry if you misunderstood, Coob. I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being sympathetic for you, too. I guess you didn't hear the tone in my voice when I said that. From my chair experience, I know how much it hurts when you lose the magic of a lucky thingie. Later

cooby Sep 25 2006 11:39 AM

No offense, 62. Just still smartin' from the loss... PSU and my son's HS team too, what a crummy weekend

metirish Sep 27 2006 09:36 AM

CNN is reporting that Terrell Owens attempted to commit suicide Tuesday night.

cooby Sep 27 2006 09:37 AM

!!! OMG I take back anything bad I ever said or thought about him!

ScarletKnight41 Sep 27 2006 10:04 AM

That's horrible. I hope he's ok.

soupcan Sep 27 2006 10:18 AM

In-cred-i-ble.

KC Sep 27 2006 11:28 AM

DALLAS- Dallas Cowboys receiver Terrell Owens attempted suicide Tuesday night by overdosing on pain medication, according to a police report. The report says Owens even put two more pills into his mouth after fire rescue personnel arrived, according to local media. The Dallas police report released Wednesday morning said Owens told rescue workers "that he was depressed." The report was first released by WFAA-TV. The rescue worker "noticed that (his) prescription pain medication was empty and observed (Owens) putting two pills in his mouth," the police report said. Local FOX affiliate KDFW confirmed from the police report that paramedics found an empty pain medication bottle in Owens' home. The worker attempted to pry them out with her fingers, then was told by Owens that before this incident he'd taken only five of the 40 pain pills in the bottle he'd emptied. The worker then asked Owens "if he was attempting to harm himself, at which time (he) stated, 'Yes."' KDFW confirmed from the police report that Owens' publicist called paramedics to the football player's home Tuesday at 7:47 p.m. Central time, saying he had taken a large quantity of prescription pain medication. The prescription was filled Sept. 18, the day after Owens broke a bone in his hand during a Cowboys game. He had an operation the next day to have a plate screwed in, enabling the bone to heal without being further injured. Dallas Cowboys coach Bill Parcells said last week that the pain medicine made Owens ill. Owens was taken to Baylor Medical Center's emergency room and was released late Tuesday, according to KDFW. The athlete is believed to be at home recovering. A news conference is scheduled for later Wednesday morning. The Cowboys were off this past weekend and Owens was back at practice Tuesday, although he worked out on his own. Parcells said Owens' hand was improving and he was expected back on the practice field Wednesday. Owens chatted briefly with reporters in the locker room Tuesday afternoon and seemed fine. Owens' publicist had originally said the hospitalization was due to an allergic reaction to pain medicine he was taking for his broken hand. Doctors reportedly tried to induce vomiting. A hospital spokeswoman said early Wednesday there was no patient registered as Terrell Owens, although federal privacy laws allow people to block their name from being released. Owens' publicist and agent, and the Cowboys, did not return repeated calls from The Associated Press. No teammates or Cowboys officials were seen entering the hospital late Tuesday night. Known as one of National Football League's top wide receivers, Owens was drafted by the San Francisco 49ers in 1996, and he played there until 2003 amid increasing conflicts with teammates and media. After the 2003 season, Owens was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles, where he established himself as one of the most prolific receivers in that team's history in just one season. But he's also made headlines for his sometime outlandish behavior, both on and off the field. During the second season of his seven-year, $48.97 contract, Owens wanted the Eagles to renegotiate his deal. When the Eagles refused, he threatened to skip training camp altogether. He did show up to practice but was more distant than usual. He was later kicked out of training for a week after arguing with head coach Andy Reid. But true to form, Owens refused to apologize for his behavior. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

MFS62 Sep 27 2006 11:56 AM

I'm surprised that anyone else who has had to spend an entire season with Bill Parcells hasn't tried this before now. Later

soupcan Sep 27 2006 12:27 PM

MFS62 wrote: I'm surprised that anyone else who has had to spend an entire season with Bill Parcells hasn't tried this before now. Later I scratch my head sometimes at your sense of humor MFS.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 27 2006 12:33 PM

Frankly, under the circumstances, I think the comment is inappropriate.

cooby Sep 27 2006 12:46 PM

Yep, suicide is never funny.

MFS62 Sep 27 2006 01:51 PM

Sorry if that offended anyone (and it did). It was not to make fun of Owens. It was a Jets fan making a comment about Parcells. mea culpa. Later

soupcan Sep 27 2006 03:48 PM

NEWSFALSH: T.O. denies suicide attempt.

Frayed Knot Sep 27 2006 04:03 PM

I can only imagine what ESPN - who thinks that a T.O. sneeze warrants round-the-clock coverage - is doing with this story.

metirish Sep 27 2006 04:17 PM

Are the Cowboys playing in Philly this season?,if so I'm sure the fans will take into account this "incident" and go easy on Owens.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 27 2006 04:41 PM

metirish wrote: Are the Cowboys playing in Philly this season?,if so I'm sure the fans will take into account this "incident" and go easy on Owens. Yeah - the Philly football fans are known for their sensitivity and kind nature....

KC Sep 27 2006 04:53 PM

I just saw parts of his new conference, no way this guy took a bottle of pain killers yesterday ... the publicist made a decision to call 911 according to them because he was groggy and the bottle was empty because most of them were in a drawer in another bottle. Dude needs his own reality show. So do we for that matter.

metsmarathon Sep 27 2006 05:06 PM

apparently, the suicide report stems from a sarcastic "yeah, i took the whole bottle to try and kill myself" remark to a cop with no sense of humor. which means the whole damned thing is no big deal, and there's really nothing more to read into this as far as TO being a bad teammate than the fac that the media is always primed for anything the guy does. he is a bad teammate, no doubt. but this incident doesn't belong in the argument.

cooby Sep 27 2006 05:30 PM

He is wrong to joke about it too, but I am glad he is all right.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 27 2006 05:33 PM

I'm glad that he's alright. I'm not entirely convinced that he didn't attempt suicide and that his publicists haven't been working overtime today trying to cover up the incident.

KC Sep 27 2006 06:03 PM

Vicodin is a weird drug, I don't particularly like it (I've taken for back problems). I could see myself getting pretty loopy and disoriented taking more than prescribed and it sounds like he took a bunch and may have been talking out of his ass at the time. He looked too coherent and white eyed today in front of mass media to be totally lying about the thing. Like I said, if people could just tune in on Weds at 8 (the one's who care), then he and his act could stop hijacking the sport news shows and we'd all be happier.

SteveJRogers Oct 08 2006 08:48 AM

Nice to enjoy an NFL Sunday without any baseball intrusions! Well there is that game tonight, but its just one night-time baseball. An entire afternoon with Football! Days like this make me wish I plunked down the cash for DirecTV's Sunday Ticket NFL plan =;) Here is your schedule for 10/8/06 Buffalo at Chicago 1:00 p.m. Cleveland at Carolina 1:00 p.m. Detroit at Minnesota 1:00 p.m. Miami at New England 1:00 p.m. St. Louis at Green Bay 1:00 p.m. Tampa Bay at New Orleans 1:00 p.m. Tennessee at Indianapolis 1:00 p.m. Washington at N.Y. Giants 1:00 p.m. Kansas City at Arizona 4:05 p.m. N.Y. Jets at Jacksonville 4:05 p.m. Oakland at San Francisco 4:05 p.m. Dallas at Philadelphia 4:15 p.m. Pittsburgh at San Diego 8:15 p.m. [url=http://www.ultimatemets.com/metannual.php?ThisYear=2003]2003 66-95 5th[/url]

cooby Oct 08 2006 10:37 AM

Steve your first comment made me laugh because I was thinking the same thing. The Steelers have had the worst schedule so far this year, I think they've only played one day game .W e're getting pretty used to going to bed and not knowing whether they won or lost :)

cooby Oct 23 2006 01:48 PM

Here is the other NFL thread, so nobody besmirches the Jets thread. Like it matters.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 01:54 PM

Ben isn't having a good year,eh? Later

cooby Oct 23 2006 02:02 PM

he's kinda fragile, isn't he?

cooby Nov 05 2006 07:46 PM

I'm adding this Steelers Tshirt to this growing stack of formerly lucky clothing

Nymr83 Nov 05 2006 10:12 PM

The Bears lost their first game of the year to the pathetic Dolphins, you can thank Rex Grossman and his disgusting offense for turning the ball over SIX times, the defense never had a chance.

metirish Nov 06 2006 08:34 PM

I really hate "you got jacked up" on ESPN.

Willets Point Nov 13 2006 06:09 PM

That missed FG/touchdown return they keep showing on TV looks like the most embarrassing & humiliating play in NFL history.

cooby Nov 19 2006 06:17 PM

Opposite Day worked so well last week that I did it again this weekend and it worked again! They both won! If Penn State gets a bowl bid, I'll have to remember to wear my Steelers shirt. (what the heck, it's a Steelers comment, too)

KC Nov 26 2006 07:29 PM

I thought we had a Giants' thread, but I couldn't find it. Holy freakin' fourth quarter melt-down. I've never seen anyone just turn over a 21 point lead in such lame-ass fashion like that in my entire life - and I'm a Jets fan. The guy with the non-sack should be drug tested after the game and given a check-up and if there's nothing wrong with him he should just be cut and made an example of. Eli looked like dog doo again today. Expensive dog doo, not the cheap stuff, but dog doo. (this post is not intended to piss off Giant fans ... that was just fugly)

metirish Nov 26 2006 07:33 PM

It was amazing what went on,looks like they just quit.

seawolf17 Nov 26 2006 07:34 PM

I hear you, Kase. We walked away from the TV to have dinner and put the baby to bed at halftime; I came back and it was 21-14 with Vince Young running all over the field. Stunning loss for the Jints.

patona314 Nov 26 2006 07:53 PM

only one person quit and i can honestly say that i have never, never, never ever seen someone do that, at any level of football in my entire 41 years of existance

metirish Nov 26 2006 08:04 PM

Manning reminds me of Dave Brown a lot....next week against the Cowboys should be a cracker.

patona314 Nov 26 2006 08:08 PM

metirish wrote: Manning reminds me of Dave Brown a lot....next week against the Cowboys should be a cracker. F the cowboys and F parcells . my apologies for my manners but i'm a little pissed off right now

Frayed Knot Nov 26 2006 09:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 26 2006 09:41 PM

]The guy with the non-sack should be drug tested after the game and given a check-up and if there's nothing wrong with him he should just be cut and made an example of. The only thing I can think of is that he thought Young had already released the ball and therefore didn't want to risk a penalty (and automatic 1st down) by dumping him on his ass. That's not a GOOD reason for what he did, but it's the only one I can think of. And the other one today is the 2nd time in 2 weeks and at least the 3rd this season that Plaxico has quit on a play. I alone have seen a number of those kinds of plays from him even going back to before he was a Giant and I don't even watch all that much football. The guy's a great talent but seems to play when he wants to (seemingly a disease among wide receivers these days). I don't know how coaching staff and teammates put up with that.

patona314 Nov 26 2006 09:25 PM

plaxico is history. so is this season

Johnny Dickshot Nov 26 2006 09:33 PM

I saw the score at halftime and turned it off. wow.

metirish Nov 26 2006 09:35 PM

Did Tiki get his carries today...I'm so sick of him,read the News tomorrow,Bondi will be slating Manning with "I told you so" articles...

Rockin' Doc Nov 26 2006 10:00 PM

Thankfully, I didn't watch the game today. I thought that this would be the year that Eli Manning established himself as a legitimate NFL starting quarterback. He and the team just don't seem to be progressing.

metirish Nov 26 2006 11:56 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: ]The guy with the non-sack should be drug tested after the game and given a check-up and if there's nothing wrong with him he should just be cut and made an example of. The only thing I can think of is that he thought Young had already released the ball and therefore didn't want to risk a penalty (and automatic 1st down) by dumping him on his ass. That's not a GOOD reason for what he did, but it's the only one I can think of. And the other one today is the 2nd time in 2 weeks and at least the 3rd this season that Plaxico has quit on a play. I alone have seen a number of those kinds of plays from him even going back to before he was a Giant and I don't even watch all that much football. The guy's a great talent but seems to play when he wants to (seemingly a disease among wide receivers these days). I don't know how coaching staff and teammates put up with that. Yep,the rookie thought Young had thrown the ball and didn't want to risk a 15 yard penalty....

Iubitul Nov 27 2006 06:32 AM

Best. Game. Ever.

Iubitul Nov 27 2006 06:37 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: The only thing I can think of is that he thought Young had already released the ball and therefore didn't want to risk a penalty (and automatic 1st down) by dumping him on his ass. That's not a GOOD reason for what he did, but it's the only one I can think of. I ran out to pick up pizza at this point - that's what Dave Jennings said when the play happened.

Nymr83 Nov 27 2006 05:34 PM

that makes a ton of sense to me, roughing the passer gets called way too often these days. although he could have kept young wrapped up until he knew the play was dead...

cooby Nov 27 2006 09:16 PM

Snowing to beat the band in Green Bay tonight

metirish Nov 27 2006 09:25 PM

Cowboys release their kicker....more bad news for the Giants...

cooby Nov 27 2006 09:53 PM

Whoops, I mean Seattle

metirish Nov 29 2006 11:09 PM

Michael Strahan is a total bollox...what an ass..

cooby Nov 30 2006 10:44 AM

With Polumalu and Hines Ward out, I think what little goose the Steelers had left is now cooked

patona314 Nov 30 2006 12:30 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 30 2006 01:44 PM

Giants Inform Titans They Can Hear Post-Game Comments From Other Room November 30, 2006 | Onion Sports NASHVILLE—According to multiple sources, New York Giants running back Tiki Barber walked over to the Titans locker room and informed a celebrating Tennessee squad that his team could hear "everything" the Titans were saying about the Giants' poor performance following their 24-21 loss. "Listen, it's just not very sportsmanlike to call our quarterback a 'choke artist' and our entire team 'an overpaid bunch of losers,'" Barber said to the Titans, who fell completely silent when Barber first entered the room. "Is this what you guys are about? Kicking a team when they're down? Kind of takes away from all that 'good game' crap and hugging we just did on the field, doesn't it? You should all be ashamed of yourselves." While Barber was delivering his speech, the entire Tennessee squad reportedly failed to suppress laughter, forcing Barber to tell them several times that he was serious and didn't know what was so funny

Rockin' Doc Nov 30 2006 01:10 PM

As a Giants fan, I think the Giants should worry more about improving and winning games, than worrying what their opponents are saying about them. Sometimes, what an opponent says about a foe can be a pretty accurate reflection of a reality the team chooses not to see in themselves. Respect is earned, it's not a right. If the Giants don't want the opposition to say they sucked, then don't suck.

KC Dec 03 2006 05:57 PM

Why does the big blue wreckin' crew wear red? Is that the color of their lunchbucket?

metirish Dec 03 2006 06:37 PM

The Giants are a very undisciplined team.....

metirish Dec 03 2006 07:01 PM

Since my last post the Giants have two more personel fouls, Giants Stadium sounds like a home game for the Cowboys after they score.

Elster88 Dec 03 2006 07:22 PM

I thought it was all Fassel's fault when the Giants fell apart down the stretch. Maybe this is related to his getting fired from the Ravens? Didn't that firing coincide with the recent Giant losing streak? It's Fassel's fault!!!

Nymr83 Dec 03 2006 08:54 PM

the red Giants uniforms are stupid, worse than "Mets in Black." the number of personal fouls they commit, and the number of false starts on their offensive line AT HOME, are mind-boggling.

metirish Dec 03 2006 09:12 PM

Why are the Cowboys called "America's team"?

Frayed Knot Dec 03 2006 09:46 PM

metirish wrote: Why are the Cowboys called "America's team"? It was really just a self promoting slogan. When televised football started to explode in the '70s the Cowboys were one of the better teams in the league and thus were frequently on the featured Sunday TV game and/or on Monday Night Football as well as their traditional Thanksgiving game and often were in the playoffs. All that made them into the favorite of a lot of fans and the team fans loved to hate for a lot of others. The Braves tried latching on to the same moniker in the '80s when their local WTBS station became one of the first to broadcast nationally via satellite and made Braves games available to more TV sets than any other team but it didn't catch on as well.

Elster88 Dec 03 2006 09:46 PM

Because America is a nation of front-runners.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 03 2006 10:03 PM

They should be killed for it, but the Cowboys were way ahead of just about every sports franchise when it came to packaging their brand and selling it, with the cheerleaders and the unis and the whole thing. The Raiders were their only counterpart in that department, but they were more of an antibrand, showcasing their darkness.

patona314 Dec 03 2006 10:57 PM

NYG

Iubitul Dec 04 2006 10:55 AM

Frayed Knot wrote: ="metirish"]Why are the Cowboys called "America's team"? It was really just a self promoting slogan. When televised football started to explode in the '70s the Cowboys were one of the better teams in the league and thus were frequently on the featured Sunday TV game and/or on Monday Night Football as well as their traditional Thanksgiving game and often were in the playoffs. All that made them into the favorite of a lot of fans and the team fans loved to hate for a lot of others. While the Cowboys do use it to self-promote, its origins had nothing to do with self-promotion. The name was given to the Cowboys by Steve Sabol of NFL films during the 1977 season. He found that there were Cowboy fans at every single stadium he visited that year, even those stadiums where the Cowboys weren't playing. When he produced the Cowboys season highlight film, which included their victory over the Broncos in Super Bowl XII, He named the film "America's Team", and they have been called that ever since.

Sandgnat Dec 04 2006 11:27 AM

Elster88 wrote: Because America is a nation of front-runners. Guess you weren't around in the late 80's.

Elster88 Dec 04 2006 08:31 PM

Sandgnat wrote: ="Elster88"]Because America is a nation of front-runners. Guess you weren't around in the late 80's. Yes I was, as a matter of fact. What does the late '80s have to do with the thousands of Cowboy-bandwagoners across the nation?

Iubitul Dec 04 2006 08:43 PM

Not all of us are bandwagoners... Some of us remember when Landry couldn't decide between Staubach and Morton, and actually had them shuttle in rom play to play...

Elster88 Dec 04 2006 10:05 PM

Agreed. Not all. But a lot.

metirish Dec 04 2006 10:09 PM

I like Mike Tricco on Monday Night Football...can't be easy saddled with two assholes....

seawolf17 Dec 05 2006 12:49 PM

I thought this must have been a typo, but look at these two lines from Sunday: Rex Grossman, CHI -- 6/19, 34 yards, 0 TDs, 3 INTs, QB Rating 1.3... in a 23-13 WIN over the Vikings. David Carr, HOU -- 7/14, 32 yards, 0 TDs, 5 sacks, for a team total of minus-5 passing yards... in a 23-14 WIN over the Raiders. Yikes.

metirish Dec 05 2006 01:05 PM

QB Rating seems like a silly stat,and very confusing..course it could just be me...

Sandgnat Dec 05 2006 01:07 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Sandgnat"] Elster88 wrote: Because America is a nation of front-runners. Guess you weren't around in the late 80's. Yes I was, as a matter of fact. What does the late '80s have to do with the thousands of Cowboy-bandwagoners across the nation? They were 18-45 from 1986 to 1989 and then went on to sell out 160 straight home and away games starting in 1990. If they were bandwagon fans, why didn't they fall off when the going got tough? Surely a bandwagon fan would have jumped ship to the 49ers by 1989. The reason there are Cowboy fans across the nation is not because they are bandwagoners, but more likely due to the marketing genius of Tex Schramm that exposed the Cowboys to the entire nation and not just the DFW area.

Iubitul Dec 05 2006 02:41 PM

Oh boy - there are so many reasons, and the marketing genius of Tex Schramm is just one of many. Schramm shrewedly convinced Pete Rozelle the NFL should have a doubleheader on Thanksgiving, and that the Cowboys should host one of the games, which they have every year, except twice, since 1966. As Frayed noted, The ratings explosion of the NFL on TV coincided with the Cowboys dominance in the 70's, and CBS rode this wave for as long as they could, almost always showcasing the Cowboys as their national doubleheader game. Two words - Roger Staubach. Won the Heisman with the Naval Academy - Served his 4 year commitment (including a year in Vietnam) in the Navy before starting his NFL career as a 27-year old rookie. He led the Cowboys to 23 come-from-behind victories in the fourth quarter. Seventeen of those comebacks came in the final two minutes. He was as tough on the field as he was decent off of it. It says something about him that the biggest off-field controversy of his career was when he admitted in an interview with Phyllis George that he liked having sex as much as Joe Namath, but he just had it with one woman... While Paul Simon was singing, "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio", Staubach was showing that there were still heroes around that we could look up to. When he retired, Staubach was the highest rated QB in NFL history. The Cheerleaders - you can't talk about the Cowboys without talking about the cheerleaders - yowza

Frayed Knot Dec 05 2006 03:16 PM

What people also have to remember is that, until the early '70s some time, home games were blacked out in the local TV market as the league was afraid of hurting ticket sales (it took an act of Congress to end that practice). As a result, between the national games, the Monday games, the Thksgvg game, and the usual playoff games, "The Boys" were seen in a lot of markets as often as the home team and gained a ton of fans that way -- the Raiders & Steelers also gained a disproportionate share out-of-town followers the same way. Almost everyone I knew growing up - aside from the handful of Jet fans since they were L.I. based - was a fan of one of those (good) out-of-town teams from that era - Cowboys among them. I don't think I met a Giant fan until I went to college.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 05 2006 03:23 PM

Staubach today is a bigwig in retail real estate. You got a problem with those 50,000 square foot Petcos, Sports Authorities and Stapleses in your hood, give him a shout.

Edgy DC Dec 05 2006 03:28 PM

Presumably the Jets were also getting notable national exposure. What else would explain Bobby Brady?

Willets Point Dec 05 2006 03:59 PM

I'd rather not explain Bobby Brady. I'm guessing you're saying that Bobby was a Jets fan, although I have no recollection. By the same token, Kevin of The Wonder Years was a Jets fan (he wore a Jets jacket) even though he lived in southern California. It mystified me.

metsmarathon Dec 05 2006 04:07 PM

joe namath?

Edgy DC Dec 05 2006 04:08 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 05 2006 04:26 PM

There you go. Bobby was more than a Jets fan. He and Joe Namath were close friends.

metirish Dec 05 2006 04:08 PM

Willets Point wrote: I'd rather not explain Bobby Brady. I'm guessing you're saying that Bobby was a Jets fan, although I have no recollection. By the same token, Kevin of The Wonder Years was a Jets fan (he wore a Jets jacket) even though he lived in southern California. It mystified me. Best show ever....

Iubitul Dec 05 2006 04:16 PM

Willets Point wrote: I'd rather not explain Bobby Brady. I'm guessing you're saying that Bobby was a Jets fan, although I have no recollection. By the same token, Kevin of The Wonder Years was a Jets fan (he wore a Jets jacket) even though he lived in southern California. It mystified me. I'm thinking that Brady Bunch episode was taped right after the Jets won the Super Bowl, and Joe Namath was the toast of the country. As for the Wonder Years, I don't think it was ever expressly set in Southern California. Neal Marlens co-produced The Wonder Years (with his wife), and was an avid Mets fan - It was he who named the families in Growing Pains, The Seavers and The Koosmans - perhaps he was a Jets fan, as well...

Willets Point Dec 05 2006 05:29 PM

metirish wrote: Best show ever.... The Brady Bunch or The Wonder Years?

Willets Point Dec 05 2006 05:33 PM

Iubitul wrote: As for the Wonder Years, I don't think it was ever expressly set in Southern California. Wherever it was supposed to be, the arid scrubland landscapes seen in the show don't look like New York or New Jersey.

metirish Dec 05 2006 06:41 PM

Willets Point wrote: ="metirish"] Best show ever.... The Brady Bunch or The Wonder Years? The wonder years.....

Johnny Dickshot Dec 05 2006 06:57 PM

The wonder years wasn't set in California. Was it?

Sandgnat Dec 05 2006 07:01 PM

As if on cue, the current headline on espn.com is "'BOYS BANDWAGON"

Elster88 Dec 05 2006 10:48 PM

Sandgnat wrote: ="Elster88"] Sandgnat wrote: ="Elster88"]Because America is a nation of front-runners. Guess you weren't around in the late 80's. Yes I was, as a matter of fact. What does the late '80s have to do with the thousands of Cowboy-bandwagoners across the nation? They were 18-45 from 1986 to 1989 and then went on to sell out 160 straight home and away games starting in 1990. If they were bandwagon fans, why didn't they fall off when the going got tough? Surely a bandwagon fan would have jumped ship to the 49ers by 1989. Yes. And they jumped back in the mid-90's. And they'll jump back on now. Do you really not understand this? It's not a difficult concept.

patona314 Dec 05 2006 11:06 PM

Iubitul wrote: Not all of us are bandwagoners... Some of us remember when Landry couldn't decide between Staubach and Morton, and actually had them shuttle in rom play to play... wow i thought i was old. morton was my first qb, w/nyg. no offence

SteveJRogers Dec 05 2006 11:17 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Sandgnat"] Elster88 wrote: ="Sandgnat"] Elster88 wrote: Because America is a nation of front-runners. Guess you weren't around in the late 80's. Yes I was, as a matter of fact. What does the late '80s have to do with the thousands of Cowboy-bandwagoners across the nation? They were 18-45 from 1986 to 1989 and then went on to sell out 160 straight home and away games starting in 1990. If they were bandwagon fans, why didn't they fall off when the going got tough? Surely a bandwagon fan would have jumped ship to the 49ers by 1989. Yes. And they jumped back in the mid-90's. And they'll jump back on now. Do you really not understand this? It's not a difficult concept. Also by the time the Boys were good again, the Niners never really were the same, it was all Cowboys for most of that run in the 90's.

Elster88 Dec 06 2006 12:19 AM

Yeah, clearly the Niners fell off in the mid-90's. They went 85-27 from 1992 to 1998, reached the playoffs every year, reached the NFC title game 4 times, and only won one Super Bowl. Please don't try to help.

Sandgnat Dec 06 2006 09:26 AM

]Yes. And they jumped back in the mid-90's. And they'll jump back on now. Do you really not understand this? It's not a difficult concept Learn how to read dude. The sell outs started in 1990 (do you understand that 1990 is not the mid-90's?) and they were 1-15 the previous year. What did the bandwagon break down in Texas Stadium parking lot and they all had to stay?

Elster88 Dec 06 2006 07:51 PM

Sandgnat wrote: ]Yes. And they jumped back in the mid-90's. And they'll jump back on now. Do you really not understand this? It's not a difficult concept Learn how to read dude. The sell outs started in 1990 (do you understand that 1990 is not the mid-90's?) and they were 1-15 the previous year. What did the bandwagon break down in Texas Stadium parking lot and they all had to stay? I give up. If someone else wants to try be my guest.

Sandgnat Dec 07 2006 09:49 AM

After such a feeble attempt to back up your broad, baseless claim that the reason the Cowboys have so many fans is because America is a nation of front runners, I would give up too. Any team that has success will ultimately attract fair weather fans. As soon as that team doesn't achieve that level of success anymore, those people will inevitably gravitate to a team that is. That obviously didn't happen with the majority of people who are Cowboys fans since they had just as many fans when they coming off a 1-15 season as they had in the 70's and the mid-90's (you're familiar with that term, right?) Dismissing someone's point as if it doesn't even deserve your response does allow you to hold on to your false sense of superiority......until you are called out on it that is. Enough of that however. The NFL Network has to be steaming at tonight's matchup.

Elster88 Dec 07 2006 06:26 PM

I'm done because it's not worth my time or energy to type any more on this. Anyone with half a brain would've understood what I was saying by my second post.

Nymr83 Dec 07 2006 06:32 PM

Sandgnat wrote: ]Yes. And they jumped back in the mid-90's. And they'll jump back on now. Do you really not understand this? It's not a difficult concept Learn how to read dude. The sell outs started in 1990 (do you understand that 1990 is not the mid-90's?) and they were 1-15 the previous year. What did the bandwagon break down in Texas Stadium parking lot and they all had to stay? just because you sold out doesnt mean the fans NATIONWIDE were still on the bandwagon. selling out 8 home games isnt really all that difficult and it says very little about your NATIONAL bandwagon fans.

Sandgnat Dec 07 2006 06:48 PM

Elster88 wrote: I'm done because it's not worth my time or energy to type any more on this. Anyone with half a brain would've understood what I was saying by my second post. Yeah, I am too busy drooling on myself to understand you. I understand your post. I'm just pointing out that you are wrong. Get over it. ]just because you sold out doesnt mean the fans NATIONWIDE were still on the bandwagon. selling out 8 home games isnt really all that difficult and it says very little about your NATIONAL bandwagon fans. it wasn't just home games.

cooby Dec 19 2006 10:57 PM

My daughter's friend Robbie is going to the pro bowl... http://sports.excite.com/news/12192006/v3862.html Maybe we'll watch it for once

Frayed Knot Dec 24 2006 10:34 PM

Not sure that it's possible to play a worse football game than the Giants did today. A 55 yard TD pass (which Manning actually underthrew but was turned into a score by some nice dancing by Burress) in the opening 3 minutes was not only their only score but it was the one time in the game Big Blue (and in blue even!!) advanced beyond the 50 yd-line. Not once did they actually start a play in N.O. territory. Bad QB-ing, dropped passes, stupid penalties, numerous turnovers, and even bad punting! And it was only 3-1/2 hours. I think the players out-numbered the fans by the end of that disaster. And now the kicker ... not only are they still in the playoff hunt but they've probably got a better than even chance at the final WC slot!!!!

KC Dec 25 2006 06:25 PM

I haven't read much news today, but when was the last time a team didn't take a snap past the fifty yard line in a whole professional football game? I'm not a Giants' fan, but Coach has to go ... he's lost that team. I'll also add as an aside that I don't see how any fan of them can root for Shockey. Uh, he kinda sucks.

ScarletKnight41 Dec 30 2006 08:11 PM

The Giants game is on the NFL Network, and the HD channel has picked up the game. The whole NFC playoff picture hinges on this game.

TheOldMole Dec 30 2006 10:07 PM

And the Giants dominating, in spite of wretched early play.

TheOldMole Dec 30 2006 10:53 PM

They could still lose.

Frayed Knot Dec 31 2006 10:22 AM

So I keep hearing how the Giants still can miss the playoffs, but I've yet to hear the specifics of how. Can someone enlighten? And, while we're at it, can the Jets lose and still get in? And, if so, what would have to happen?

Nymr83 Dec 31 2006 01:00 PM

if the Jets win they are in. if the Jets lose they would need one of the following: 1) CIN loss or tie + JAC loss or tie, OR 2) CIN loss or tie + TEN win, OR 3) DEN loss + JAC loss the Giants get in with...: 1) NYG clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over GB**, OR 2) GB loss or tie **N.Y. Giants clinch strength of victory tiebreaker over Green Bay if: a) DET loses OR b) MIN loses OR c) any two of the following results occur: ARI loss, MIA loss, SF loss, CAR win, HOU win, TB win. in other words for the giants to miss the playoffs they would need 3 things to happen first: a Packer win, a detroit win, and a minnisota win, they would THEN need 5 of t he 6 things listed above to NOT happen

Frayed Knot Dec 31 2006 04:43 PM

for the giants to miss the playoffs they would need 3 things to happen first: a Packer win, a detroit win, and a minnisota win, they would THEN need 5 of t he 6 things listed above to NOT happen No wonder those quickie updates never mentioned the specifics ... it would have taken them too long. I actually did eventually find this explanation in one of the morning papers. Anyway, Mini-soda lost so I guess we've got two playoff teams in NYC (NJ) this year.

ScarletKnight41 Dec 31 2006 04:48 PM

And those of us in Central NJ also have the Eagles in the playoffs. All local teams here will be playing next weekend.

Nymr83 Jan 01 2007 07:04 AM

ScarletKnight41 wrote: And those of us in Central NJ also have the Eagles in the playoffs. All local teams here will be playing next weekend. thats gotta be weird, i remember when i was up in Albany never knowing if i would get the Jets, Bills, or Patriots broadcasts, it was right in the middle of the 3 markets and you never knew which game you'd get.

ScarletKnight41 Jan 01 2007 09:49 AM

We get 'em all. We get the local stations from both NY and Philly.

Nymr83 Jan 01 2007 12:39 PM

what if Philly and hte Giants are both playing at 1:00pm on FOX, you're getting 2 FOX feeds??

ScarletKnight41 Jan 01 2007 12:50 PM

Yes. The Hi Def is generally the Philly station, but we get both local channels' games. The same for baseball season. If the NY and Philly markets have different games, we get both of them.

cooby Jan 06 2007 10:50 AM

Damn.

KC Jan 06 2007 09:05 PM

Is it me, or have I been watching nothing but commercials since 4:30 today? Crappy first game ... I like Herm, but jeez I was getting flashbacks. You'd think someone as worldly as Al Michaels would know how to say N'awlins.

seawolf17 Jan 06 2007 11:12 PM

Dynamite ending to the Seahawks/Cowboys game. Screw you, Cowboys.

SteveJRogers Jan 07 2007 09:56 PM

Jan of 2001 I buy a nice Giants NFC Champs hat I start my Company sponsered vacations every MLK Weekend to some Caribbean hotspot in Jan of 2002 with the expectation that I'd bring said hat with me to wear while watching the NY Giants play a playoff game.... I'M STILL WAITING! 2008 Baby!

Frayed Knot Jan 07 2007 10:13 PM

I liked the end to that Dallas/Seattle game too - but can anyone really claim that the replay really showed enough definitive evidence to overturn that 1st down call? I think they probably were short (although tell me you haven't seen worse spots NOT reviewed!) but when a rule like that is used so arbitrarily and then with little objective standards then it points out how lousy the rule really is in practice and how the mantra that 'well if it corrects one bad call then it's worth it' doesn't tell the whole story. I didn't have a dog in that fight but if I were a Cowboy fan I'd be raising holy hell.

KC Jan 11 2007 05:05 PM

Looks like Coughlin has dodged the axe ... someone had to go so they fired defensive coordinator, Tim Lewis.

Nymr83 Jan 11 2007 06:40 PM

the Giants will suck in 2008, Coughlin is a bust and without Tiki it'll be alot harder to hide it.

cooby Jan 13 2007 08:59 PM

The Saints look like they're wearing ballet tights, yuck

KC Jan 14 2007 01:40 PM

I meant to ask this last week, who the heck is dressing the zebras these days?

cooby Jan 14 2007 04:27 PM

Hooray!

DocTee Jan 14 2007 07:26 PM

Anybody else see a resemblance between Bears QB Rex Grossman and our own SteveJRogers?

KC Jan 14 2007 08:20 PM

fartstick, I hate the Pats ...

seawolf17 Jan 14 2007 08:30 PM

DocTee wrote: Anybody else see a resemblance between Bears QB Rex Grossman and our own SteveJRogers? In that you never know what you're going to get from one post/game to the next?

DocTee Jan 15 2007 12:36 AM

]DocTee wrote: Anybody else see a resemblance between Bears QB Rex Grossman and our own SteveJRogers? In that you never know what you're going to get from one post/game to the next? LOL-- Be nice-- that mug of Steve J beside the WS trophy reminds me of Rex's mug.

Willets Point Jan 16 2007 06:01 PM

KC wrote: fartstick, I hate the Pats ... They hat you too.

Elster88 Jan 16 2007 08:57 PM

DocTee wrote: Anybody else see a resemblance between Bears QB Rex Grossman and our own SteveJRogers? No

KC Jan 21 2007 11:20 AM

Saints vs. Colts ... Saints go the the promised land.

DocTee Jan 21 2007 12:09 PM

Bears-Pats: rematch of the 46-10 blow out of 1985.

Nymr83 Jan 21 2007 01:34 PM

go to hell patriots! lets go Colts! (not that i really like them either)

SteveJRogers Jan 21 2007 02:40 PM

Eh, not much. Better looking though and I don't want to punch him in the face like I do sometimes with my own ugly young-ish mug

cooby Jan 21 2007 02:45 PM

Last year the papers were full of Jerome Bettis and every meal he ate, this year it's Robbie Gould, who is a nice nice young man, and I'm wishing him well today, and hopefully in the Super Bowl as well. He has been a friend of my daughter's since first grade and I have nothing but nice things to say about him and a few funny things as well, but I'll refrain from bugging you all with them.

KC Jan 21 2007 06:12 PM

Oh when the Saints Go marching in Oh when the .... er, nevermind

Frayed Knot Jan 22 2007 12:47 PM

Parcells quits as coach of the 'Boys

Vic Sage Jan 22 2007 12:59 PM

i think Bill's halo has lost its glow over the years, what with all the quitting, and with the not winning in a long time.