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MFS62 Sep 19 2006 05:43 AM

I'm not as wild nuts crazy as I thought I'd be when the Mets won it. Maybe it was the "certainty" that they would win it for so many weeks. Do you think the advent of the wild card has somehow diminished winning a division title? I dunno. Were you as happy as you thought you'd be? Later

cooby Sep 19 2006 05:51 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 19 2006 05:56 AM

You're not alone, MFS62. For me, the fact that I couldn't watch it, plus I still miss a good pennant race, meant that last night was just another night for me. That plus I had the wind taken out of my sails a few times this summer, which kinda just lets me down in general. The playoffs, now that will be another story!

Rotblatt Sep 19 2006 05:52 AM

Yes. But I think it was because I was at the ballpark. I've never been to a playoff game before, but that's what I imagine it feels like. Can't fucking wait for the postseason! And hey, it's the first time in 18 years! When I get a little less giddy, I'll probably agree that winning the division has diminished in importance with the advent of the WC, but for now, I'm just pretty darn happy.

JaySilverman Sep 19 2006 05:53 AM

The last time this happened, I was four years old and had a keen affinity for play-doh. Quite a long time ago. Consequently, I got pretty excited last night and was just as happy as I thought I'd be.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 19 2006 06:04 AM

It was a foregone conclusion since July. Still, I was a little moved to see the joy in, for example, Willie and Delgado's homoerotic embrace. Congrats to Jay and the other younguns experiencing it for the first time.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 19 2006 06:17 AM

I'm sorry you couldn't watch the game cooby. We had the SNY coverage of the celebration on, and it was great watching the team just revel in the moment. I loved watching the pure joy in their faces.

vtmet Sep 19 2006 06:51 AM

After looking like we had the ghost of Gene Mauch hexing us against lefties lately...and that horrible series against the Pirates and the Dodgers...the clincher seemed like it was never getting here...so I was still going nuts...eventhough my kids were supposed to be sleeping getting ready for school, we still had to celebrate the Mets winning and watch the highlights on tv (my wife was none to pleased with the kids still watching tv at 11pm though)...

metirish Sep 19 2006 06:52 AM

It was everything I thought it would be,I was thrilled to experience my first Mets Division title.

soupcan Sep 19 2006 07:00 AM

Am I alone in my thinking that last night's celebration was just a bit over the top? It looked to me like they had just won the World Series. I understand that its been a while and that there are a lot of players on the team that had never experienced it and all, but really they haven't really won anything substantial yet have they? If in fact they do win a pennant and the Series, how could any celebration be bigger than what we saw last night? I'll cut the team some slack but still I found myself last night going "okay, guys, enough already..."

Johnny Dickshot Sep 19 2006 07:05 AM

I agree with you. They should have fun and celebrate, but seeing Andy Hernandez dump champagne on a reporter as if he was celebrating an accomplishment was a bit much. I mostly liked the pre-T shirt stuff

ScarletKnight41 Sep 19 2006 07:07 AM

For me, it was just what I needed. I just came off of a rough few days. The kids were in that car accident, D-Dad and MK were away for a Cub Scout campout, and on top of everything the television blew a fuse just before Friday night's game. But the television was fixed, and I came home from a mind-numbing college planning meeting at the high school (they took 90 minutes to go over what really only merited about 12 minutes) to a 3-0 Mets lead. There was something special and satisfying about being able to watch the end of the game with my family, drink a little bubbly, and just enjoy something for a while. I loved watching the team revel on the field - I needed some moments of pure joy.

metirish Sep 19 2006 07:11 AM

I thought it was cool,after 18 years I'm not sure you could low-key the celabration,especially when a bunch of the guys are going to the post-season for the first time.

HahnSolo Sep 19 2006 07:13 AM

I have no problem with the celebration - not over the top at all. They've had a great season and deserved it. obviously I was happy for the vets like LoDuca and Delgado, and was happy that Trax came up big with the spotlight on him. Now if only the Mets had ordered enough champagne. And I'm sure Budweiser, a big sponsor of the Mets and Shea, was thrilled to see the Mets all running around with Coronas in their hands.

cooby Sep 19 2006 07:19 AM

I guess the fact that it's been what, 600 years?, since anybody but the Braves has won the Eastern Division is worth a few drinks.

vtmet Sep 19 2006 07:21 AM

Budweiser sponsors everybody in sports, they are so big that I doubt that they would even notice what the little guys are doing...

sharpie Sep 19 2006 07:30 AM

Welcome, Jay Silverman.

soupcan Sep 19 2006 07:35 AM

Hey, wasn't he Tonto?

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2006 07:36 AM

JaySilverman wrote: The last time this happened, I was four years old and had a keen affinity for play-doh. Don't try to convince us that you still don't play with play-doh. We're not buying it.

cooby Sep 19 2006 07:36 AM

Is that where I've heard that name? I've been wondering for two weeks how I know him.

vtmet Sep 19 2006 07:45 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 19 2006 07:47 AM

Jay SilverHEELS was Tonto [url]http://imdb.com/title/tt0048310/[/url] Jay SilverMAN is a photographer & commercial producer from LA... and a professor at Harvard...depends on which Jay Silverman result you choose at google...

Johnny Dickshot Sep 19 2006 07:46 AM

]And I'm sure Budweiser, a big sponsor of the Mets and Shea, was thrilled to see the Mets all running around with Coronas in their hands. Bud's a 50% owner of Corona's brewer IIRC.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 19 2006 07:58 AM

I didn't catch this last night, but I saw on the Fast Forward replay that David Wright traded one of his wrist bands (which he wears on his bicep) for that 2006 NL East Champions sign that he was running around with on the field at the end of the game. I'm sure that the fan would have given it to him anyway, but Wright motioned to the guy and offered him the wristband as a trade - very nice <g>

silverdsl Sep 19 2006 08:02 AM

I've barely been able to watch Yankees games, let alone Mets games so I didn't see the Mets game last night. However, when I heard the news I thought of everyone here and smiled thinking of how happy y'all must be. As for the way the Mets celebrated, again, I didn't actually see it, but my way of thinking in general is that I like to see the teams celebrate big. I like to see the show of emotion and see how much these kinds of accomplishements mean to them. I like to see it for the fans and for the players themselves.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 08:06 AM

It was fun, and I enjoyed watching it. The 2006 team can never be as special to me as the 1986 team was, mainly, I think, because I was 23 then, 43 now. I have a different perspective on baseball and on life in general, I guess. It's still a major thrill, but it's not consuming me the way it did twenty years ago. And I'm okay with that. For those of you for whom this is the first time around, I hope that 2006 ends up doing for you what 1986 did for me.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2006 08:08 AM

]Am I alone in my thinking that last night's celebration was just a bit over the top? Maybe a bit. But, while the division title obviously isn't the big prize, it's sometimes the biggest celebration ('cept the WS) because it represents the culmination of 7 months of work. The guys have been at it since mid-February and now they get to cut loose a bit and then relax for a week or so. It's tougher to celebrate winning the 2 intra-league rounds* because you know you have to get right back to work with maybe only one day off. * Unless you're on a flight home from Houston apparently

MFS62 Sep 19 2006 08:08 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: For those of you for whom this is the first time around, I hope that 2006 ends up doing for you what 1986 did for me. And 1969 for me. Later

soupcan Sep 19 2006 08:09 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: The 2006 team can never be as special to me as the 1986 team was, mainly, I think, because I was 23 then, 43 now. I have a different perspective on baseball and on life in general, I guess. It's still a major thrill, but it's not consuming me the way it did twenty years ago. And I'm okay with that. For those of you for whom this is the first time around, I hope that 2006 ends up doing for you what 1986 did for me. What Yancy said ('cept I'm a lot younger. Was 22 then, 42 now....).

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 08:10 AM

Spraying champagne for winning a Division Series is what really seems over the top to me. There's not even a title associated with that.

Rotblatt Sep 19 2006 08:30 AM

I loved the over-the-top celebration. I mean, we were all just nuts in the stands, and it was so cool seeing the players act the same way. And shit, if Joe Schmoe in the stands gets to spray his Bud as though he accomplished something, why not Andy Handy too? I was 10 in 1986 and didn't quite grasp that I was watching history unfold. '86 was special for me, but kind of diffuse and random--it wasn't anchored by years of futility. I expect to remember this postseason a whole lot better. Hopefully favorably!

HahnSolo Sep 19 2006 08:32 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: ]And I'm sure Budweiser, a big sponsor of the Mets and Shea, was thrilled to see the Mets all running around with Coronas in their hands. Bud's a 50% owner of Corona's brewer IIRC. Obviously I need to spend more time in the I Still Love Beer Thread.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 08:33 AM

I know what you mean. I was 10 in 1973, and didn't appreciate how special that postseason appearance was. I knew the Mets had been there just four years earlier. I had not idea it would be another 13 before it would happen again.

Valadius Sep 19 2006 08:54 AM

Of course, this is the first division title I can appreciate, having been a year old in 1988. So this is freaking sweet for me.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 08:58 AM

Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to find a picture of Pete Flynn's puzzle-piece re-shodded Shea infield from 1986. The Mets had a day game the next day in 1986, so the grounds crew had to stay up all night fixing what the the vandalous fans had undone.

TheOldMole Sep 19 2006 09:00 AM

Hey, we won!!!!!!

TheOldMole Sep 19 2006 09:01 AM

]so the grounds crew had to stay up all night fixing what the the vandalous fans had undone. He was a year away from being born,

Valadius Sep 19 2006 09:03 AM

I found a pic of Pete Flynn at least:

Lundy Sep 19 2006 09:13 AM

] Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to find a picture of Pete Flynn's puzzle-piece re-shodded Shea infield from 1986. The Mets had a day game the next day in 1986, so the grounds crew had to stay up all night fixing what the the vandalous fans had undone. I was at that game, and I have the game on tape somewhere. It was a patchwork quilt of a field.

Valadius Sep 19 2006 09:15 AM

I love Heath Bell: ]Most of the chicanery came from the Mets. In the clubhouse, they drenched each other with Freixenet Extra Dry and Bud Light. Heath Bell stole a magnum of champagne from owner Fred Wilpon and tried to find quarter-full bottles of the Freixenet he could siphon into his giant bottle. Lo Duca stole the fire hose used to keep the field wet and sprayed water at the thousand or so fans who stuck around for more than an hour to celebrate.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 09:18 AM

I don't mind saying... Wright looked kind of jerky slogging back out there with the cigar. Most guys look jerky with cigars, of course, but I imagine non-Met fans wanting to punch him. Wright still rules, of course.

MFS62 Sep 19 2006 09:19 AM

So I guess Steve Traschell is saving his private collection of vintage wines for a more important celebration. Later

metirish Sep 19 2006 09:25 AM

] I don't mind saying... Wright looked kind of jerky slogging back out there with the cigar. I was thinking that myself.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 19 2006 09:27 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Most guys look jerky with cigars, of course, but I imagine non-Met fans wanting to punch him. I hope not. I just sent that photo to an A's fan friend of mine, with instructions that, at the very least, they need to knock off the MFYs in the playoffs.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 09:35 AM

Athletics-Yankees is more likely in the ALCS isn't it? I'd prefer to see the Yankees get whacked by Detroit or Minnesota in the Division Series.

metirish Sep 19 2006 09:36 AM

This is a great picture,nothing jerky here

MFS62 Sep 19 2006 09:38 AM

I just had a Luis Tiant flashback. He smoked some of the biggest stogies in the history of mankind. Later

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 09:41 AM

Didn't the daily reports of Willie's unsmoked cigar remind you of the "first victory" cigar that Mike Piazza had for Willie last year? That one went unsmoked for five games. Maybe Willie should switch to lollipops instead of cigars, like Telly Savalas did.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 19 2006 09:41 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Athletics-Yankees is more likely in the ALCS isn't it? I'd prefer to see the Yankees get whacked by Detroit or Minnesota in the Division Series. That works for me too.

SteveJRogers Sep 19 2006 10:18 AM

cooby wrote: You're not alone, MFS62. For me, the fact that I couldn't watch it, plus I still miss a good pennant race, meant that last night was just another night for me. That plus I had the wind taken out of my sails a few times this summer, which kinda just lets me down in general. The playoffs, now that will be another story! I think the difference is that 1986 was the culmulation of 13 long years, especially after bitter dissapointments in 1984 and 1985. Not to mention it saw the dissmantling of what could have been a fine ballclub Sure its been 18 years since they won the Division, but they were in the World Series just 5 years ago, and unlike the down years inbetween 73-86 and 88-99 you didn't get a sense that the Mets were not trying. All Freddie Coupon jokes aside, the Mets never gave you the impression that they were giving up and rebuilding from scratch since losing the World Series in 2000. Alomar, Vaughn, Glavine, Floyd, Cameron, Matsui, Benson and even Zambrano would not have been brought in if this was the dark times of 79 or 94. There were years where our big pickup was along the lines of a Mike Maddux and an over the hill Kevin McReynolds! Also I think the depths of the heartbreak in 1985 led to alot of over the topness of the celebration 20 years ago. That did not happen in 2005, this year we and the Braves are truely flipped-flopped. The Braves are in September, on the fringe of a Wild Card race but with a bunch of teams to climb over and struggling just to get to a .500 record, just like the Mets a year ago. Sure it was bad, but not as bad as losing a heartbreak of a race in the closing week of the season. So I think its more of a matter of the state that the franchise is in more than anything.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 10:27 AM

I disagree that being out of the race is worse than being in a close second. I'll take loving and losing over never loving at all.

Willets Point Sep 19 2006 10:28 AM

Hey, the celebration did not involve any talismanic dwarfs that I'm aware of so it had to be relatively tame. That may only be due to the fact that Mr. Delarosa is more of a Red Sox devotee than Pedro fan though. Speaking of Pedro, despite four postseason appearances and participating in numerous memorable playoff games, this was the first division clincher for him too.

metirish Sep 19 2006 10:36 AM

It would have been cool if Ralph was at the game,my fave memory of the 2001 season was Ralph hoisting the NL banner with Seaver,at least I think it was Seaver.

SteveJRogers Sep 19 2006 10:41 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I disagree that being out of the race is worse than being in a close second. I'll take loving and losing over never loving at all. I was going for why for some the celebration is subdubed, that being close in 84 and 85 gave fans an extra jolt of excitement in 86

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 10:42 AM

metirish wrote: It would have been cool if Ralph was at the game,my fave memory of the 2001 season was Ralph hoisting the NL banner with Seaver,at least I think it was Seaver. It was Ralph and Mr. Met.

Willets Point Sep 19 2006 10:45 AM

Mr. Met & Seaver are both known for their big heads.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 11:18 AM

="SteveJRogers"]I was going for why for some the celebration is subdubed, that being close in 84 and 85 gave fans an extra jolt of excitement in 86 Nah. If the Mets had finished last in 1984 and 1985, then 1986 would probably have been even more exciting, not less. And 1985 was a wonderful season, and still my favorite regular season ever. It didn't leave me heartbroken at all. Just eager for the winter to end so that the Mets could have another crack at it.

Willets Point Sep 19 2006 11:37 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: And 1985 was a wonderful season, and still my favorite regular season ever. It didn't leave me heartbroken at all. Just eager for the winter to end so that the Mets could have another crack at it. Yancy/Willets similarity score rising. 1985 is my favorite season too, probably because it was the first season I followed Mets baseball regularly. I didn't think anyone else would be so fond of it. I was both heartbroken and excited at the end.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 11:45 AM

In 1984 the Mets were on the fringes of contention, and it was a lot of fun. But they melted down in early August, so there was no suspense the last couple of months of the season. But in 1985 was exhilarating! Gary Carter pumping his fist. Doc Gooden winning 24 games. That final showdown series in St. Louis, with Darling pitching his heart out and Strawberry hitting the clock. That nutty 18-inning game against Pittsburgh with Rusty Staub making that running catch. Meaningful games in October! It was fabulous. 1986 had, by far, the best October I've experienced. But 1985 had the best April through September. 1999 was a fun regular season too. But nothing touches 1985.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 12:03 PM

Good distinction.

cooby Sep 19 2006 01:55 PM

vtmet wrote: Jay SilverHEELS was Tonto [url]http://imdb.com/title/tt0048310/[/url] Jay SilverMAN is a photographer & commercial producer from LA... and a professor at Harvard...depends on which Jay Silverman result you choose at google... Thanks vermont!

Valadius Sep 19 2006 02:13 PM

One day later, it's up on YouTube: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI8XYqnXa28]The Clincher, Final Out from the Crowd[/url]

Valadius Sep 19 2006 02:21 PM

Hahahaha!!! This is up on YouTube too!!! [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwnmIKPtwTQ]Lastings Milledge: "This is my first drink!"[/url]

Valadius Sep 19 2006 02:32 PM

This is up too! [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biZJnKdItmY]Paul Lo Duca Drops the F-Bomb[/url]

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2006 02:35 PM

You know, I thought I heard him say that when I was watching last night. Boy, he is sleazy! I can understand why Chris Cotter didn't comment on it, though if it was me the urge would be hard to resist. Is SNY going to get Janet Jacksoned because of this? I guess they haven't been doing the seven-second delay thing.

cooby Sep 19 2006 02:35 PM

Not as cool as the kid from Staten Island. Not nearly.

Valadius Sep 19 2006 02:43 PM

Dookie: "I'm fuckin' friggin' lovin' it, I'm tellin' ya"

soupcan Sep 19 2006 02:46 PM

Heh-heh-heh.

Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 02:55 PM

I had jinxed Paulie earier in the day. I was at a committee meeting at my church. Committee Coordinator (uncertainly turning over reins to me): Now, this report is done in in an Excel spreadsheet. Edgy... do you... um, use Excel? Edgy (trying to dispel uncertainty, while at the same time trying to wrap things up in time to get home and watch Mets clinch): Sure. I fucking love it. Rest of Committee: ... Edgy: Sorry. (Meeting continues to drag on under thickening cloud of uncertainty.)

Willets Point Sep 19 2006 03:48 PM

Like cooby I wasn't able to watch the game last night. One of my best friends - the guy who is a big Braves fan & a Steelers fan - had is birthday yesterday and celebrated by having a party at his local bar to watch MNF. The worst part is that I totally forgot and psyched myself up to go home to watch the Mets game until my wife reminded me. Anyhow the Mets game was over when I got home and I couldn't get the on-demand from MLB.tv for a couple of hours and even then it would cut out five minutes into the game (even the condensed game!) so by the time I finally got to see the final out and celebration I was in a bit of a muted mood. But I'm happier today. Not quite like the pudgy feller in the IGT, but I'm gettin there.

Willets Point Sep 19 2006 03:49 PM

Edgy's going to get his mouth washed out with holy water.

cooby Sep 19 2006 04:08 PM

Ah well. If ESPN doesn't black out the playoffs for me, I'll get to see them, and they're the real meat and potatoes

ScarletKnight41 Sep 20 2006 08:56 PM

At least the Mets won their game before celebrating. The MFYs backed into their clincher courtesy of Boston's loss, but they're not letting that stop them from splashing the champagne all over Toronto's visitors' clubhouse.

Willets Point Sep 20 2006 09:11 PM

Valadius wrote: The Clincher, Final Out from the Crowd You think they could play some decent music instead of that ear-bleed inducing, nerve-grating shite.