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Ditch the Black
Johnny Dickshot Sep 19 2006 11:27 PM |
[url]http://ditchtheblack.uniwatchblog.com/[/url]
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Edgy DC Sep 19 2006 11:30 PM |
Black is black
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metirish Sep 19 2006 11:48 PM |
Tonight Ron asked Gary if the Mets wore the black uni during the 2000 post-season, Gary thought for a sec and said that they wore the black uni mostly during that run....
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metsmarathon Sep 20 2006 12:29 AM |
heh... i like the black. maybe its because i think that i personally look ridiculous in reams of bright blue. its selfish, but true.
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Valadius Sep 20 2006 12:45 AM |
The black gives us more flexibility. I happen to like it.
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 20 2006 07:12 AM |
I've always liked the black unis. And I do associate them with the 1999-2000 seasons.
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HahnSolo Sep 20 2006 08:36 AM |
No black unis at home, please. If I have to see black, let it be on the road.
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SteveJRogers Sep 20 2006 08:45 AM |
In the words of Frayed Knot, though he does come a little from out in LF =;)
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SteveJRogers Sep 20 2006 08:46 AM |
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Yes, some teams its the Starting Pitcher, but for the Mets its Charlie's call
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metirish Sep 20 2006 09:14 AM |
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Ron and Gary were talking about this last night,Ron would like to see more of the clasic home uni with blue caps,Gary said that if you asked Charlie Samuels' he'd tell you that the Mets win/loss record on those uniforms is not good.
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cooby Sep 20 2006 09:14 AM |
Do they ever still wear black?
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soupcan Sep 20 2006 09:28 AM |
Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate the black unis and the black drop shadow on the Mets script on the white unis and the white pinstriped unis as well as on the 'New York' across the chest of the road grays.
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 20 2006 09:31 AM |
I also despise the black jerseys and the all-black caps. While I prefer blue caps and pinstripes, I don't object to the blue and black caps or to the all-white home uniforms.
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soupcan Sep 20 2006 09:37 AM |
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And since those postseasons did not end the way we would've wanted, its time to change the karma.
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metirish Sep 20 2006 09:38 AM |
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Ron asked Gary about that last night and Gary thought they wore the black in just about every game going to the WS.
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MFS62 Sep 20 2006 09:44 AM |
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Grey is grey Only for a road game day. Later
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Mr. Zero Sep 20 2006 10:19 AM |
the only reason the Mets put on the black unis was to move more merch. the black happened to be the color of the moment when they were introduced. all part of the mets unfortunate and self-induced identity crisis (don't get me started on why the new stadium has to look like Ebbets Field. yeesh).
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HahnSolo Sep 20 2006 10:20 AM |
In 2000, they wore white unis when Agbayani hit the HR against the Giants, so they didn't wear black in every game. They also wore white in WS games 3 and 5, IIRC.
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HahnSolo Sep 20 2006 10:22 AM |
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Curious, why is it his decision?
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Yancy Street Gang Sep 20 2006 10:24 AM |
I think we need a bloodless coup.
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Edgy DC Sep 20 2006 10:34 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 08 2006 11:51 PM |
Yeah.
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SteveJRogers Sep 20 2006 12:11 PM |
Yup. Hence also the rather un-baseball like caps that MLB (and every other league) have been pushing for championship celebrations.
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seawolf17 Sep 20 2006 02:58 PM |
How about the circa-mid 90's white hat?
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soupcan Sep 20 2006 03:43 PM |
I, um, liked those.
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Valadius Sep 20 2006 03:44 PM |
Oh MAN those look horrible.
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ScarletKnight41 Sep 20 2006 03:45 PM |
Ick!
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KC Sep 20 2006 05:04 PM |
The black has grown on me, but I still signed the petitioin ... I won't miss it
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Johnny Dickshot Sep 20 2006 06:38 PM |
Well, it's not like they couldn't sell black jerseys. AFAIC, they can sell pink jerseys. It's really about what the players wear.
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 08 2006 10:21 PM |
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Times...
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DocTee Oct 08 2006 10:48 PM |
IIRC, Samuels opts for black hats to keep with Rick Peterson's jacket...having a blue hat and black jacket would look tacky (as opposed to black hats and jackets, which just looks bad).
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Edgy DC Oct 09 2006 12:20 AM |
Some quick Googlin' reveals that Derik Aasan was a successful Division III NCAA pitcher after starring at Smithtown. He now distributes Stone Beer.
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The Big O Oct 09 2006 12:27 AM |
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Bringing fresh meaning to an announcer saying "and he delivers ..."
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Centerfield Oct 09 2006 11:11 AM |
I will never wear the blue hat again until they ditch the stupid looking orange dot.
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Farmer Ted Oct 09 2006 11:36 AM |
I try to coordinate my game-day outfit to match what the Mets are wearing that day. Each night I have every jersey and hat combo on stand-by not knowing what they're going to wear. It drives me nuts. Most days I don't know until the broadcast comes on at 7. When I go to the games I have ALL combinations in my car trunk. When I get there I have to pay the MTA $2 to get up on the #7 platform to see what they're wearing and go back to my car to make the change. When I was taking the #7, jeez, I had to take a whole suitcase. Last year I went to the game in Milwaukee and wore TWO jerseys at once and had to re-layer the combo once I found out which jersey they were wearing (black). Trouble was that I only wore one hat (all black) and they ended up wearing the black with blue visor. I was so freaking pissed. I went to the souvenir shop and all they had was the blue. That damn Charlie Samuels got several letters from me that week. Then, for crying out loud, I completely forgot about '86 throwback weekend and looked like a total dunce when I had the pinstripes on but without the orange and blue piping down the side. Don't even get me started on the orange button on the cap. And since when did red become the dominant color of the Cyclones? I looked like a goofball there, too, with my blue-sleeved undershirt. I signed the petition and want to hand deliver it to the Wilpons myself.
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cooby Oct 09 2006 11:38 AM |
Thanks, that laugh made my day :)
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Edgy DC Oct 09 2006 11:45 AM |
I think the orange dot is to trick us, to give us something banal to bitch about and keep us from organizing to defeat the black jersey forces.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 09 2006 11:49 AM |
I see the orange dot as benign. I'd prefer to see the blue button, but it's not nearly as offensive as the all-black caps and the black jerseys.
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DocTee Oct 09 2006 11:54 AM |
Do any other teams have a different color dot? I think the Dodgers may have white, but am unsure.
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Centerfield Oct 09 2006 12:15 PM |
Help me fight the dot and I will join you in your battle against black.
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Spacemans Bong Oct 09 2006 12:46 PM |
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Yeah, they only won two World Series titles in them.
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Spacemans Bong Oct 09 2006 12:50 PM |
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The formerly located in Harlem Giants also sport an orange dot. Which is probably where the orange dot came from.
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Edgy DC Oct 09 2006 03:07 PM |
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No. Prioritites must be priorities. It's a contrasting dot. Not a foolhardy jump on a negative trend to redesign the whole freaking uniform paradigm. Get over it. And this discussion almost invariably brings up the brief extinct white cap experiment. Excuse me, but if your culture is under occupation, it is not a springboard to compare it to occupations past, but a call to action.
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martin Oct 09 2006 03:16 PM |
the main problem with black is that it isnt orange.
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Nymr83 Oct 09 2006 03:58 PM |
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is there any proof that adding more jerseys has a negative long term effect? i'd like to see it. personally i dont like the black because it adds a completely new color to the team's color scheme, i wouldnt mind minor variations on the existing colors (such as the gray uniform with and without the stripe on the side.) i think they should keep wearing the black for spring training and batting practice to help sell the damn things but stick to the traditional colors for regular season and postseason games.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 09 2006 04:03 PM |
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I can't argue that. But I understand that marketing is a necessary evil, so I'd even grant the black limited usage in regular season games. (People are more likely to want to buy them if they look like the caps and jerseys that appear in games.) If they wore the traditional uniform about three quarters of the time, and used the alternative caps and jerseys the remainder of the time, I'd be satisfied.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 09 2006 04:06 PM |
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They were selling hardly at all because the Mets had pretty much sucked for six or seven years. The black was introduced in 1998, the same year as Mike Piazza and a near miss at a Wild Card berth. People would have started buying more Mets merchandise that year anyway.
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Edgy DC Oct 09 2006 04:08 PM |
... if they were pink and covered with turtles.
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 09 2006 04:14 PM |
What color would the turtles be?
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Johnny Dickshot Oct 09 2006 05:51 PM |
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Packaging and brand experts would tell you so.
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soupcan Oct 09 2006 10:14 PM |
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Cubs.
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Willets Point Oct 10 2006 01:02 AM |
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I think other teams have demonstrated that you can sell merch in all sorts of crazy designs without the team actually wearing them on the field.
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Edgy DC Oct 14 2006 10:20 PM |
How about ditching the black in the middle of this game?
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Valadius Oct 14 2006 10:26 PM |
I'm in favor of it.
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Willets Point Oct 14 2006 10:29 PM |
Naked players are motivated players.
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Zvon Oct 14 2006 10:33 PM |
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lmao--hey--im with yaz. I mean,...last night--maybe the black may have been appropriete. Fri 13th and all--- Do they still have black for home Jerseys?
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cooby Oct 15 2006 12:22 AM |
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Especially during an early cold snap.
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cleonjones11 Oct 15 2006 12:44 AM |
White at home with Blue pinstripes. Blue hat orange dot
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MFS62 Oct 15 2006 08:50 AM |
Are there any statistics that show whether team plays better when wearing black or when naked?
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soupcan Oct 16 2006 09:47 AM |
[u:19f9c23d4a]2006 NLCS[/u:19f9c23d4a]
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Centerfield Oct 16 2006 02:09 PM |
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Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 02:14 PM |
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From the first page of this thread:
I also have one of the black and blue caps. (I also have a blue one, albeit with the orange button, and a classic blue Brooklyn Dodgers cap.) I'm thinking of taking the black-and-blue one to Japan next month. I figure I'll stand out enough over there without plopping a bright blue and orange baseball cap on my head. (I often wear a baseball cap when I'm out of doors for extended periods to protect my bald head from the elements.)
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Vic Sage Oct 16 2006 02:16 PM |
wow... a "black"mail photo!
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soupcan Oct 16 2006 02:30 PM |
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Centerfield to address the media at 4:15 regarding his non-existent research and blatant attempt to discredit fellow forum members.
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Centerfield Oct 16 2006 02:35 PM |
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I'm trying to land a job at the Post.
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soupcan Oct 19 2006 11:54 AM |
Pinstripes and blue hats 1-0.
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Rockin' Doc Oct 19 2006 01:12 PM |
I agree. It should be pinstripes and Blue hats tonight.
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Edgy DC Oct 19 2006 01:14 PM |
Every night.
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Rockin' Doc Oct 19 2006 01:22 PM |
That would be fine with me.
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Valadius Oct 19 2006 01:23 PM |
You gotta stick with the blue.
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MFS62 Oct 19 2006 01:26 PM |
While I'm all for tradition.
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soupcan Oct 19 2006 01:35 PM |
Yes but this particular thread here happens to be about the uniforms..
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MFS62 Oct 19 2006 01:41 PM |
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I know. And I just tried to comment on unis from my perspective. But, as I have also said, I am superstitious. So if wearing a certain type of uni will result in a win, I'm all for it. Later
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soupcan Oct 19 2006 01:44 PM |
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metsmarathon Oct 19 2006 08:36 PM |
y'know, i like the cards with the black hats
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