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Toe, Hip, Right Calf, Left Calf, and now ...

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2006 05:17 PM

SNY is reporting that Pedro will have [u:66975265b3]rotator cuff surgery[/u:66975265b3] next week. Recovery time ... about 8 months (that's late May by my calendar). While they've got the hood open, might be a good time to check the oil and change the plugs as well.

metirish Sep 30 2006 05:20 PM

Well that's that,I wonder if the Mets defered too much to Pedro in this,maybe they should have just shut him down earlier in the season...I dunno..

soupcan Sep 30 2006 05:22 PM

Dear Mr. Zito We have a very large bag of cash with your name on it. Sincerely, Fred & Omar

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2006 05:24 PM

And here I was thinking that, of all the problems he's had this year, at least none were arm-related.

Gwreck Sep 30 2006 05:25 PM

There was a discussion about Pedro at Shea during some game this year in which one of the guys sitting near me said "they should just activate him after the all-star break each year." Little did he know. I wonder if we might eventually see something on the order of Mr. Heilman and Mr. Martinez switching roles.

Yancy Street Gang Sep 30 2006 05:28 PM

Gwreck wrote: I wonder if we might eventually see something on the order of Mr. Heilman and Mr. Martinez switching roles. I doubt that Pedro would go for that. Rotator cuff? Late May? Good grief. It's looking more and more like Orlando Hernandez might be returning next year. I'd still let Trachsel walk, though. I think.

MFS62 Sep 30 2006 05:34 PM

Dizzy Dean redux. He altered his throwing motion because of a foot injury and that resulted in injuring his arm. At least surgery is more advanced these days and he will fully recover. I hope. Later

Johnny Dickshot Sep 30 2006 05:34 PM

Rotator cuff is so 80s. Isn't it?

Edgy DC Sep 30 2006 05:57 PM

So Craig Swan. Pedro should have heeded Swannie's warning and rolfed more.

metirish Sep 30 2006 06:40 PM

Ron on SNY...." this is an 8 to 12 month process depending on the player,and Pedro is an older player....."..... I don't know if we will see Pedro next season....I feel bad for the guy.

Johnny Dickshot Sep 30 2006 06:42 PM

Easy come, easy go. As the Moleman said, we'll take it from here. I like that attitude.

Valadius Sep 30 2006 06:56 PM

We'll get Pedro back midway through next year. Oliver Perez has a LOT of work to do this offseason.

martin Sep 30 2006 07:33 PM

i'm not worried. betwen humber, pefrey, perez, maine, soler, bannister, williams, somebody will fill the void.

Yancy Street Gang Sep 30 2006 07:38 PM

Omar's bound to sign somebody this winter. Zito or Schmidt, whichever one he's able to get. And I wouldn't rule out his signing both of them.

Rotblatt Sep 30 2006 08:07 PM

Matsuzaka Daisuke. I'd take him over Zito or Schmidt any day. Yes, he's more of a question mark, but IMO he's got more upside. If we can also get Zito, great, but I'm cool with a rotation of: Glavine, Matsuzaka, Maine, Humber, Pelfrey/Perez/Bannister And if Duaner comes back next year, we've got Heilman as an option too.

ScarletKnight41 Sep 30 2006 08:11 PM

FWIW, I'm in favor of giving that bag of money to Zito. Not that it's a surprise to you guys. But I've been rooting for Zito for over five years now, so on a personal level I'd love to have him on the Mets.

Rockin' Doc Sep 30 2006 09:31 PM

It's great to have a lot of talented young pitchers (Pelfrey, Humber, Bannister, Perez, Soler, and Williams)* to possibly fill the rotation next season, but I still think that it is imperative theat the Mets sign a proven frontline starter for the front of the rotation next season. Zito or Schmidt are probably the best options available this winter. We should hopefully have an edge in recruiting Zito, since he enjoyed his greatest success under the tutelage of Rick Peterson. Their time together should be an asset this winter. *I didn't include John Maine in the list of young hopefuls, because at this point he has, at least in my mind, has a spot in next season's rotation unless he blows it by not pitching well next spring.

ABG Sep 30 2006 11:54 PM

Can anyone dig up articles relating to getting insurance on that shoulder? If the 90% story were accurate, that would be troublesome to insure.

cooby Sep 30 2006 11:58 PM Re: Toe, Hip, Right Calf, Left Calf, and now ...

Frayed Knot wrote: SNY is reporting that Pedro will have rotator cuff surgery next week. Recovery time ... about 8 months (that's late May by my calendar). While they've got the hood open, might be a good time to check the oil and change the plugs as well. That is late May by my calendar too, but he headlines are all screaming "after the AllStar break"... Typical media, or more realistic?

metirish Oct 01 2006 12:02 AM

Cooby I think with Pedro and his failing body we will be lucky to see him next season..

cooby Oct 01 2006 12:06 AM

Yah, I'm afraid so too. Pedro makes me feel young :(

Zvon Oct 01 2006 12:11 AM Re: Toe, Hip, Right Calf, Left Calf, and now ...

cooby wrote: That is late May by my calendar too, but he headlines are all screaming "after the AllStar break"... Typical media, or more realistic? Ive been reading June. Sucks no matter how you slice it. Pun intended.

cleonjones11 Oct 01 2006 12:26 AM

Time to tap the insurance and encourage Pedro to retire and get some of the 53 milion back. We'll see Zito or Schmidyor both...money seems to be any object In 3 years Pedro can sign with the Devil Rays

Zvon Oct 01 2006 12:35 AM

cleonjones11 wrote: ...money seems to be any object gimme afew mins to decipher this

SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 12:49 AM

Zvon wrote: ="cleonjones11"] ...money seems to be any object gimme afew mins to decipher this I believe he thinks the Mets have suddenly become the Yankees. Sure, lets have 8 All Star regulars (including, eh 5 future HOFers) with all borderline All Star (i.e. a team's lone rep) or major league starters as the bench. 5 starting pitchers, all of whom would be #1 or #2 starters on any team and have our future HOF closer (one of the very few) to be backed up by only those with big time closing experiences. And your payroll comes out to... $300,000,000.00

Edgy DC Oct 01 2006 01:02 AM

I think that's a closer analysis than cleon deserves.

Zvon Oct 01 2006 01:06 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I think that's a closer analysis than cleon deserves. LMAO

SteveJRogers Oct 01 2006 09:37 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I think that's a closer analysis than cleon deserves. Fair, but I've heard that analysis be brought up by Yankee fans who really do think that any NY team should be constructed that way because of the high payroll amounts they have

Frayed Knot Oct 01 2006 12:02 PM

]That is late May by my calendar too, but he headlines are all screaming "after the AllStar break"... Typical media, or more realistic? Anything at this point is purely a guess-timate so neither is "correct". Late May (actually 2nd week in June by the time the cutting is done next week) is merely simple math. If that's just the time he starts throwing then post-AS break is more realistic. Throw in the fact that not every recovery is equal, nor is every rotator cuff surgery the same. (I had it on my shoulder but mine was relatively minor. In my case it's now 5 years later and I STILL can't hit 90 on the gun so I guess my recovery should still be considered ongoing.) If we start hearing terms like "full thickness tear" after the operation then we're probably looking at longer recovery times and a good chance that a full recovery might never be seen.

cooby Oct 01 2006 12:34 PM

In my case it's now 5 years later and I STILL can't hit 90 on the gun Hang in there, FK. It'll happen.