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Johnny Dickshot Oct 06 2006 12:43 PM

Dodger lefty Beimel a barroom casualty The world saw the Dodgers lose Game 1 of their NL division series against the Mets on Wednesday at Shea Stadium. In truth, they actually might have lost it in a Manhattan bar late Monday night. Joe Beimel, Los Angeles' best lefthanded reliever, had to be left off the team's roster for this round of the playoffs after reporting for Tuesday's workouts with a gash in his left hand that required 10 stitches. Manager Grady Little said yesterday that Beimel - and not Brad Penny - would have been pitching in the critical seventh inning when the Mets scored twice to snap a 4-4 tie in the 6-5 win. Beimel told the Dodgers that he had cut the hand on a broken glass in his hotel room. Actually, it appears Beimel suffered the injury on broken glass in a New York bar the night before, according to a report in yesterday's Los Angeles Times that the Daily News confirmed with one Dodger. "It's the real story," said the Dodger, who requested anonymity to avoid clubhouse animosity. "We just go by what the players told us and that's all we know," Little said. "The kid told us that the accident happened in his room. It happened. The bottom line is that he's not available in this series." Little replaced Beimel on the playoff roster with righthander Chad Billinglsley. It left him with only one southpaw - converted starter Mark Hendrickson - in the bullpen. Hendrickson pitched a scoreless sixth last night.

metirish Oct 06 2006 12:50 PM

You were on the money Dickshot,apparently he tried to catch the glass as it was falling of the bar....don't know that I believe that .

Willets Point Oct 06 2006 12:54 PM

One day a manager will leave a pitcher like this on the roster to take advantage of his devestating bloodball sinker.

Centerfield Oct 06 2006 12:57 PM

If the Mets are fortunate enough to move on, we need a volunteer to go start a fight with Chris Carpenter the night before Game 1. Too bad we don't have a Wifey Watch for opponents. That could make it a bit easier...

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 12:57 PM

You're, like, scary right. In the wake of Pedro's "successful" surgery, I want to see the first sports surgeon who comes out of OR and releases a statement that the surgery was a disaster.

metirish Oct 06 2006 12:59 PM

Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years...

MFS62 Oct 06 2006 01:10 PM

metirish wrote: Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years... That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery. Later

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 01:12 PM

Centerfield wrote: If the Mets are fortunate enough to move on, we need a volunteer to go start a fight with Chris Carpenter the night before Game 1. Too bad we don't have a Wifey Watch for opponents. That could make it a bit easier... Alyson Carpenter. She's a vegan. No photos yet.

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 01:13 PM

MFS62 wrote: ="metirish"]Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years... That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery. Later Are there any examples?

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 01:23 PM

Alyson "I Know This World is Killing You" Carpenter in black and flipflops.

cooby Oct 06 2006 01:24 PM

now what

soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:29 PM

That Edgy's view from his sniper position...

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 01:29 PM

cooby wrote: now what Centerfield hits on her and Chris breaks his pitching hand against Centerfield's iron jaw, of course. It's so easy, it's stupid.

Johnny Dickshot Oct 06 2006 01:34 PM

cooby wrote: now what LoDuca: Hey, Cris, you're wife's a real heifer for a vegan. Mind if I date your daughter?

MFS62 Oct 06 2006 01:42 PM

Edgy DC wrote: ="MFS62"] ="metirish"]Hey maybe Pedro gets those extra mph back that he lost over the last few years... That has reportedly happened a lot after rotator cuff surgery. Later Are there any examples? One immediately comes to mind. When the Mets signed Jae Seo, he threw a 91-92 MPH fastball. After his surgery, I read stories that his fastball was clocked at 94 MPH. And the article indicated that it was not uncommon. It went on to say that before the injury, the pain caused by the deteriorating cuff may have kept the pitcher from "letting it all hang out". After surgery, with the pain gone, they were able to do it. The new, freer motion obviously helped, too. They mentioned a few other pitchers, but I have forgotten who they were. Later

ABG Oct 06 2006 01:44 PM

"Really? How'd you cut your hand?" "You're not talking to the paperboy either, Josh."

cooby Oct 06 2006 01:46 PM

Gad, look at how chipped up that over hang is

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2006 01:54 PM

Most of those stories about pitchers gaining velocity after surgery are: a) of questionable accuracy b) after TJ-like ligament replacement jobs, not rotator cuff surgery c) not occuring with hurlers in their mid-30s Your hope for Pedro, at this point, is to get him back by July of next year pitching something like he was capable at the beginning of this year.

soupcan Oct 06 2006 01:55 PM

MFS62 wrote: One immediately comes to mind. When the Mets signed Jae Seo, he threw a 91-92 MPH fastball. After his surgery, I read stories that his fastball was clocked at 94 MPH. And the article indicated that it was not uncommon. It went on to say that before the injury, the pain caused by the deteriorating cuff may have kept the pitcher from "letting it all hang out". After surgery, with the pain gone, they were able to do it. The new, freer motion obviously helped, too. They mentioned a few other pitchers, but I have forgotten who they were. I had always thought Seo had elbow surgery.

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 01:56 PM

"Here, Son, let me put you up and my shoulders and we'll see if you can touch the jagged rusty concrete rods. That's it, try and loosen the rubble."

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2006 01:58 PM

Also, I don't remember the Seo story as anything like that. The way I remember things, it that he lost velocity following his surgery (which I'm not sure was RC anyway). And, because he was mostly a two-pitch (fastball/change) pitcher to begin with, the reduced velocity between the two is what changed him from a hot prospect to a hopeful maybe.

Edgy DC Oct 06 2006 02:02 PM

I'm pretty sure Seo had TJ surgery, and lost velocity

cooby Oct 06 2006 02:04 PM

Anyway, what DO people fight about in bars?

soupcan Oct 06 2006 02:06 PM

Who's gonna buy cooby a drink.

cooby Oct 06 2006 02:07 PM

You buy me one, and I'll rassle ya

MFS62 Oct 06 2006 02:07 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I'm pretty sure Seo had TJ surgery, and lost velocity That "new" 94 MPH figure after his surgery stuck in my mind. But you could be right. It could have been TJ surgery. If it was, never mind. Later

soupcan Oct 06 2006 02:16 PM

="MFS62"]...never mind.

Hillbilly Oct 06 2006 03:14 PM

It's too funny that Dickshot called this.

DocTee Oct 06 2006 11:01 PM

IIRC, A's starter Tim Hudson was injured in a Boston fracas before a playoff start a few years back. I think he injured his hip. Does anyone else recall this?

SteveJRogers Oct 06 2006 11:08 PM

DocTee wrote: IIRC, A's starter Tim Hudson was injured in a Boston fracas before a playoff start a few years back. I think he injured his hip. Does anyone else recall this? Yes! He managed to pitch though, not well but he did go out there.

DocTee Oct 06 2006 11:16 PM

I think Hudson was pulled after just a few batters....didn't make it out of the first, right?

ScarletKnight41 Oct 06 2006 11:16 PM

There was an incident in a bar a night or two before his start at Fenway, and as a result he pitched like shit that night.

ScarletKnight41 Oct 06 2006 11:27 PM

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/10/06/SPGNO25H7B1.DTL&hw=tim+hudson&sn=002&sc=854]The Hudson Incident[/url]