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cooby Oct 03 2006 11:29 AM

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/10/03/penn.shooter/ You can't live in PA and not be enraged today

metirish Oct 03 2006 11:36 AM

What a terrible thing to happen,I really don't know what to say.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 03 2006 11:40 AM

It's absolutely appalling. And the guy was a father of three himself. He even dropped his kids off at their school before going to the murder site. If he loved his kids, how could he do this to other kids? I guess it's impossible to really understand the motivations of the insane. It's guys like him who make me wish I believed in hell.

cooby Oct 03 2006 11:41 AM

I do. And I'm glad.

Johnny Dickshot Oct 03 2006 11:54 AM

I useta ride my bike around that area. Beautiful countryside and the last place you'd anticipate a killing spree. Revolting.

MFS62 Oct 03 2006 12:08 PM

This has reportedly been festering since he was 12 years old. I can't believe there has been nobody who knew him well enough to notice and intervene. How terrible. Later

metirish Oct 03 2006 12:29 PM

What was festering for 12 years 62?

MFS62 Oct 03 2006 12:41 PM

metirish wrote: What was festering for 12 years 62? I don't know what it was, but news reports this morning said that his actions were because of someting that happened to him when he was 12. (20 years ago) I don't know if any details of the incident have been revealed yet. Later

metirish Oct 03 2006 12:47 PM

Ahh ok, I am just reading that he admited to his wife that he molested young family members 20 years ago.

ScarletKnight41 Oct 03 2006 01:58 PM

I don't know that enraged sums it up for me. I'm just deeply saddened about it. What a horrible thing to have happened.

Centerfield Oct 03 2006 02:46 PM

It is sickening.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2006 02:56 PM

The odd thing I found myself thinking about was how the Amish folks and their anti-modern ways thought about their kids being air-lifted to hospitals and kept alive (or attempts at such) by ultra-modern machines and methods.

cooby Oct 03 2006 03:01 PM

You're probably right, they probably were a little apprehensive about that, but they do not have a problem with using modern doctors and hospitals like (is it Christian Scientists?) do. As far as motorized vehicles go, they may use them as long as they are not driving, but prefer their animals for transportation. They are really a lot more modern than people think (especially in Lancaster County) but they really do keep their quiet ways and that is probably what makes me sickest about this whole thing.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2006 03:14 PM

I'm not calling them hypocrits or saying that they shouldn't embrace everything possible to keep their kids alive (how could you not?). It's just got to be an odd switch in your mind which goes from rejecting as much modernity as possible to rushing towards it at full speed when the circumstance warrants. And yes, there are varying degrees of thought on how much "technology" is regularly used.

cooby Oct 03 2006 03:57 PM

Frayed Knot, I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to imply that you were disrespecting them, and I was hoping you understood that, so I apologize if you thought I was. I see what you're saying, but I see Amish people every day in all sorts of modern situations, so I would say most of them embrace modern ways when they realize it is to their advantage. Hospitals, doctors, banks, grocery stores. I used to wait on them in my drive in window, that was interesting! But again, they do somehow manage to keep things primitive too. Somehow they stay in both worlds. The Amish schoolhouses are just like you see in those photos, you gotta see them to believe them. A long room with an outhouse out back and hitching posts out front.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2006 10:14 PM

I didn't think you were implying anything. I was just struck by the contrast I saw on the news where ambulances and hi-tech medivac helicopters are landing in amongst the bucolic setting and horse-drawn carriages.

cooby Oct 03 2006 10:32 PM

A strange contrast indeed

Rockin' Doc Oct 04 2006 07:25 AM

I did read that the parents declined flights to the various hospitals where their children had been taken, opting for rides in cars instead.

metirish Oct 04 2006 09:44 AM

This might explain some things. http://www.slate.com/id/2150907/?nav=tap3

soupcan Oct 04 2006 10:06 AM

I read that in keeping with their belifs they don't have photographs of themselves or their familes. So these parents that lost their children don't even have pictures of their girls to remember them by. Very sad.

MFS62 Oct 04 2006 10:16 AM

Here's some more about the incident, and the Amish culture, from another board I frequent. Some interesting stuff from two folks who know the area, and the Amish, well. http://www.dickiethon.com/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=15411&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Later

Willets Point Oct 04 2006 10:28 AM

I have a friend who is a veterinarian and at one point did regular checkups on dairy cows in an area with many Amish farmers. By law, dairy products must be kept refrigerated so the Amish dairy farmers have electrical generators and coolers in their barns. My firend found it amusing to see how many other things were hidden in the barns and hooked up to the generators such as radios and tv's.

soupcan Oct 04 2006 10:31 AM

MFS62 wrote: ...from another board I frequent http://www.dickiethon.com/forum1/viewtopic.php?t=15411&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Do they love you over there as much as we do here?

MFS62 Oct 04 2006 10:46 AM

As much? More? Less? Love is a relative thing. Membership on that board is by invitation only. It was started by refugees from the old FASTBALL board. And I was invited, so I guess you could say there was some degree of love there. I've met at least 20 of their members at a few of their annual get togethers. And nobody has told me they don't want me to attend the next one(s) - yet. The only CPF-er I've met (that I know of) is KC. To know me is to love me. We now return you to a very serious thread. Later

metirish Oct 04 2006 08:09 PM

Found this picture on the Irish Times......

cooby Oct 04 2006 08:12 PM

Wowee. That's a lot of news vans. I would imagine the Amish community has politely asked that everybody please go home and let them get on with their lives.