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Johnny Dickshot
Oct 11 2006 06:56 PM

GUH

Zvon
Oct 11 2006 06:57 PM

yep.
And so it goes.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2006 07:10 PM

The game will obviously be made up on Friday - although they've yet to announce the start time.

What they DID announce is that Game 1 tickets will be honored on Friday, and those w/Game 2 tickets who were set to attend Thursday's game will still do so as planned.

Willets Point
Oct 11 2006 07:11 PM

Rats. Well at least there's an ALCS game.

seawolf17
Oct 11 2006 07:15 PM

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO rain.

Valadius
Oct 11 2006 07:23 PM

At least it gives Cliffy an extra day of rest.

ABG
Oct 11 2006 07:45 PM

So now Carpenter can go in Game 2, and for Glavine to come back in Game 5 he'll have to do so on short rest.

Grand.

soupcan
Oct 11 2006 07:45 PM

I'm behind the loge section waiting.

I've got beer.

Where is everybody?

Hello...?

vtmet
Oct 11 2006 07:45 PM

The series should have started yesterday, now the Tigers will have 2 wins before the Mets series even starts...Tigers will be probably waiting around getting rested for 3 or 4 days before the NL is determined...

Gwreck
Oct 11 2006 07:46 PM

:(

soupcan
Oct 11 2006 07:46 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2006 09:03 PM

Double post.

SteveJRogers
Oct 11 2006 07:54 PM

See you Friday night...maybe...

=;)

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 11 2006 07:56 PM

They should have listened to what I said yesterday afternoon:

]The thought of a rainout on Wednesday is worrisome.

The makeup game would probably be on Friday afternoon, with the series resuming as scheduled in St. Louis on Saturday.

That would leave the Mets (and Cards, of course) playing on five consecutive days. Which means they'd either need a fifth starter or they'd have to send Glavine on three days rest in Game 5.

I'd probably go with Glavine on three days. The alternative would be Darren Oliver making his first start of the year? Or do the Mets replace Ring on the roster with Williams tomorrow morning if the weather forecast looks like rain is likely?

cleonjones11
Oct 11 2006 08:49 PM

Dancing with the Stars is on ...hey Rod Stewart sang Hot legs....

soupcan
Oct 11 2006 09:03 PM

cleonjones11 wrote:
Dancing with the Stars is on ...hey Rod Stewart sang Hot legs....


Hey cleon's back! Cards in 4?

Zvon
Oct 11 2006 09:12 PM

ABG wrote:
So now Carpenter can go in Game 2, and for Glavine to come back in Game 5 he'll have to do so on short rest.

Grand.


Word I heard on ESPN earlier (around 7PMish-est), talking to LaRussa, is Carpenter will still stay in originally planned rotation spot.

Ive had a hectic day/evening here-with one eye and ear on the TV , but I think I heard that right......

KC
Oct 11 2006 09:13 PM

Had a nice heart attack meal at Virgil's with KB and then hung out some
more there watching the rain and endless ESPN loop of plane crash news
and headed on out ... only to find out about five stops out to turn back. It
took me ten minutes to remember that the Queensboro Plaza station has
two stories - duh, the trains are going the wrong way?

Is it really Friday? That's too cool for me, hope it doesn't mess anyone
else up.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 11 2006 09:14 PM

I'd definitely prefer an evening start, otherwise I'm gonna get sick!

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 11 2006 09:21 PM

]Ive had a hectic day/evening here-with one eye and ear on the TV , but I think I heard that right......


You heard that right. La Russa said he'd think about it more, but will likely keep the order in tact, and said he likes the idea of having Carpenter go a potential Game 7.

I see his point, but he's putting a lot of faith in the other stiffs that they can even get to a Game 7.

I was very happy to hear this news.

Willets Point
Oct 11 2006 09:31 PM

You gotta love LaGenius. Maybe he'll give Ankiel another shot while he's at it.

Nymr83
Oct 11 2006 09:32 PM

soupcan wrote:
="cleonjones11"]Dancing with the Stars is on ...hey Rod Stewart sang Hot legs....


Hey cleon's back! Cards in 4?


5. he likes to throw the poor, miserable mets a bone.

Zvon
Oct 11 2006 09:38 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
]Ive had a hectic day/evening here-with one eye and ear on the TV , but I think I heard that right......


You heard that right. La Russa said he'd think about it more, but will likely keep the order in tact, and said he likes the idea of having Carpenter go a potential Game 7.

I see his point, but he's putting a lot of faith in the other stiffs that they can even get to a Game 7.

I was very happy to hear this news.


Me 3.

This also gives Rolin a chance to be in better shape.
That worries me a tad--
but everything kinda worries me in post season.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 11 2006 10:22 PM

I'm hoping for a 4 p.m. start on Friday. I'm working from home anyway, and I can just knock off an hour or so early.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2006 11:36 PM

So what exactly is causing them to be still unsure of the time of Friday's start?
Choose a frickin time and announce it!!

Rotblatt
Oct 11 2006 11:47 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
So what exactly is causing them to be still unsure of the time of Friday's start?
Choose a frickin time and announce it!!


No shit! If I have to ask for time off, I need to do it ASAP! I'm really nervous that I won't be able too. Half our office is out on Friday and I'm thinking that will make my boss less inclined to approve anything.

Edgy DC
Oct 11 2006 11:51 PM

Any healin' time for Rolen is also applicable to Cliffy's tendon and Beltran's ab.

Lo Duca's thumb and maybe Hernandez's calf, while I'm at it. Maybe.

Maybe Juan Padilla can take advantage of the off day to get in game shape.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 07:50 AM

Well, the delay in the start of the NLCS won't have any impact on Orlando Hernandez unless there are still more rainouts to come, and enough of them to postpone the start of the World Series.




It's almost 8 o'clock on Thursday morning, and Friday's game time is still TBD. Unbelievable. Yesterday afternoon, the network suits and the MLB suits and the Madison Avenue suits should have scheduled a conference call and said, "If tonight's game in New York is postponed, what time Friday should we play?" And then when the game was called, they could have made the annoucement immediately.

I'm going to be able to be in front of my TV regardless. But this shows a complete disregard for ticket holders who may need time to juggle their schedule.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 08:23 AM

You know it's up to FOX, not MLB, don't you?

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 08:24 AM

Yeah, I know. But I figured they'd have MLB in on the call as a courtesy.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 08:25 AM

They'll be the face making the call, FOX will be the head.

Willets Point
Oct 12 2006 08:55 AM

This is all because the LCAO of the Mets foolishly rented out Shea for a giant bingo tournament on Friday afternoon. They're petitioning MLB to have the NLCS game played Friday night, but Fox, knowing their viewers expect prime time coverage of the Yankees have dedicated that slot in-depth coverage of the Yankees post-post-season. It's a tough nut to crack.

Centerfield
Oct 12 2006 08:57 AM

Tim McCarver: And there is Jeter cleaning out his locker, I tell ya Joe, just the way he carries himself in these situations, it just goes to show you that October is his time of year...

MFS62
Oct 12 2006 09:09 AM

Centerfield wrote:
Tim McCarver: And there is Jeter cleaning out his locker, I tell ya Joe, just the way he carries himself in these situations, it just goes to show you that October is his time of year...


And, in an associated story, Reggie Jackson held a press conference yesterday. He said he is gving up all claim to the name "Mr. October" so that it can be bestowed on Derek Jeter. He continued, "I am not as worthy of that name as Derek".

Later

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 09:39 AM

Friday's start time still is TBD.

What a bunch of jerks.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 09:47 AM

Show up at 1, and chant "We want a game!"

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 10:00 AM

="Yancy Street Gang"]Friday's start time still is TBD.

What a bunch of jerks.


MLB Office of the Commissioner:
(212) 931-7800

Call and complain. I did, and I'm considering repeating that complaint every 5-10 minutes.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:05 AM

I called, pretending to be a ticket holder, and actually spoke to a live person. He said the game time will be announced "later on today" but couldn't commit to any specific time.

Which means it might be as late as 4 p.m. Or even later.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 10:07 AM

Ya gotta call FOX, I'm telling ya

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:09 AM

If Gwreck had posted FOX's number, I would have called them.

And I doubt I would have gotten to a human being so quickly, if at all.

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 10:10 AM

="cooby"]Ya gotta call FOX, I'm telling ya


Unpractical -- they're neither accountable nor responsible. True, it may be their fault in theory, but MLB holds all responsiblity here.

metirish
Oct 12 2006 10:12 AM

So it's left in the capable hands of Bud Selig......lovely.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:12 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 12 2006 10:12 AM

From foxsports.com:

]If you have a specific broadcasting question, please call: (310) 369-7761.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 12 2006 10:12 AM

Good idea, G. I'm on hold now.

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 10:14 AM

Fox Sports Broadcasting:
(310) 369-7761

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 12 2006 10:15 AM

The MLB guy sez they will announce "later this afternoon"

What a fucking joke

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:17 AM

I called the FOX number. It's just recordings, you can't talk to a human. I pressed menu options until I got to "postseason baseball" and they told me to be sure to catch Game 6 of the NLCS as the Cardinals and Astros battle for the right to face the Chicago White Sox in the World Series, which begins this Saturday on FOX.

duan
Oct 12 2006 10:18 AM

i for one am hoping for gay dame, which will mean i can watch it.

Herself is running a show this week & weekend which means I cannae be staying up till 3/4am watching the mets as she needs her undisturbed sleep!!

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:19 AM

="Johnny Dickshot"]The MLB guy sez they will announce "later this afternoon"

What a fucking joke


I didn't get the word "afternoon" from the guy I spoke to (who was probably the same guy you spoke to) but I kind of inferred that the announcement wasn't forthcoming.

Absolutely outrageous.

Has anyone tried calling the Mets to see what they're telling people?

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 12 2006 10:21 AM

I'm thinking he said "later" so as to get me to stop calling until later.

HahnSolo
Oct 12 2006 10:21 AM

A friend suggests that the forecast for Detroit on Friday is poor (I have no idea if this is accurate or not), and that they will hold off on the decision until later today to see if they have a clearer picture of what tomorrow night's weather will be in the Motor City. The thought being that they want to insure that there's a prime time game, and if they announce the Met starting time as an afternoon game and then the Tigers are rained out, FOX is left to show reruns of Bones.

Just make a decision, dammit.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 12 2006 10:24 AM
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Motor City forecast (apparently, it's snowing now):



Friday
47°F | 36°F
Showers
Mostly cloudy, showers around; windy in the morning. Mostly cloudy, showers around; windy in the afternoon. Patchy clouds, windy and cold in the evening. Patchy clouds, windy and cold overnight.

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 10:24 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Has anyone tried calling the Mets to see what they're telling people?


Yes, they told me it was out of their hands and MLB's decision to make.

MFS62
Oct 12 2006 10:25 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
I'm thinking he said "later" so as to get me to stop calling until later.


It wasn't me.
But if you can get me the guy's name, I'm gonna' sue him for copywright infringement.

Later

cooby
Oct 12 2006 10:25 AM

47 as a high? If I were anybody who was going I'd be praying for a day game


Oh that's Detroit, never mind

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 10:37 AM

Fox Sports Viewer Comment Line:
310-369-9111 (you can only leave a message)

Fox Television Main Telephone Number:
310-369-1000 (they don't open until 8:00 PDT)

Rotblatt
Oct 12 2006 10:41 AM

I'm really incensed about this.

They're demonstrating absolutely zero consideration for the fans. How fucking hard is it to pick a time? And if they're worried about Detroit canceling, why don't they just put us BOTH at prime time and do the split markets thing?

It's not like they're going to get good ratings if they put the game at 1:00 anyway--or even 4:00.

metirish
Oct 12 2006 10:43 AM

]

They're demonstrating absolutely zero consideration for the fans


Of course they don't give a fiddlers fuck about the fans.....

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 10:46 AM

I encourage anyone who hasn't called the MLB number yet to call. And when you do, call as a ticketholder, even if you're not one. Because it's the ticketholders who have the biggest stake in the starting time.

Us stay-at-home fans do too, of course. I've been able to make my work schedule flexible so I will be in front of the TV whenever the game starts. But I'm fortunate in that regard and I can imagine how antsy I'd be if I didn't have that flexibility.

I think a stink needs to be raised.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 10:52 AM

I'll be home too, because it is my day off, but it really is unfair to 55,000 fans.
And you know it's just over broadcasting issues, which means it's not about the baseball at all.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2006 10:53 AM

What I can't figure out is what factors they think are going to fall into place by this afternoon allowing them to make the "correct" decsion that they don't know about now - or even last night for that matter.

metirish
Oct 12 2006 10:54 AM

I could be out of line here and wrong but I wonder if this shit happens if it's the MFY's playing a series.

Rotblatt
Oct 12 2006 11:03 AM

I think that's a good point, irish. It'd be nice if the Mets organization put some pressure on Fox to get this shit sorted out. Maybe it IS worth complaining to them, too . . .

I just called and left a pissy message for FOX, explaining how their sitting on their asses is making it increasingly unlikely that I can make the game--if it IS during the day. I also complained about their coverage and referenced the JORDY thing.

Fucking wankers.

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 11:09 AM

I think the calls to MLB are being directed to "Vinny" at Extension 7878.

At least, that's what he told me. He tried to get out of giving me his name or extension when I called this most recent time but that's the info that I got.

I'm going to keep calling. I think I may try asking for Media Relations when I reach the MLB switchboard again.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 11:11 AM

Just wondering, do you locals think it really rained long and hard enough to call off the game?

I know it didn't here, and we usually get the rain first.

Frayed Knot
Oct 12 2006 11:13 AM

The night was a total washout.
It basically poured from about 4 til at least midnight

MFS62
Oct 12 2006 11:31 AM

There was reported flooding in Fairfield County CT (the county closest to NY City). Some towns got as much as 4 inches of rain.

Later

cooby
Oct 12 2006 11:34 AM

Geez I guess so then.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 12:23 PM

Here's what the New York Times is saying:

BEN SHPIGEL wrote:
The teams will play Game 2 tomorrow, an intended off day, at Shea Stadium. Major League Baseball will announce the starting time today; the decision may be affected by winter-like weather conditions in Detroit that could affect Game 3 of the American League Championship Series.

That game is scheduled for tomorrow night, but it could be postponed or moved to a daytime slot. As a result, the Mets and the Cardinals might have to play at night to give Major League Baseball a prime-time postseason game. Otherwise, the second Mets-Cardinals game would most likely be played tomorrow afternoon.

soupcan
Oct 12 2006 12:28 PM

MFS62 wrote:
There was reported flooding in Fairfield County CT (the county closest to NY City). Some towns got as much as 4 inches of rain.


Westchester County is closer to NYC than Fairfield County and being a resident of Fairfield County I noticed lotsa rain but no flooding.

Now just because I didn't notice it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

KC
Oct 12 2006 12:29 PM

Donald Letterbox's top ten reasons for MLB to drag it feet deciding starting
time for game two in New York:

10) Waiting for Mike and Mad Dog show to start because they have ex-
clusive rights to announce stuff.

cooby
Oct 12 2006 12:42 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
Here's what the New York Times is saying:

="BEN SHPIGEL"]The teams will play Game 2 tomorrow, an intended off day, at Shea Stadium. Major League Baseball will announce the starting time today; the decision may be affected by winter-like weather conditions in Detroit that could affect Game 3 of the American League Championship Series.

That game is scheduled for tomorrow night, but it could be postponed or moved to a daytime slot. As a result, the Mets and the Cardinals might have to play at night to give Major League Baseball a prime-time postseason game. Otherwise, the second Mets-Cardinals game would most likely be played tomorrow afternoon.



Crystal clear.

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 01:24 PM

I called again, this time asking for media relations and trying to give the guy on the phone the impression I was calling from a media outlet.

He as much as confirmed that the delay was due to the projected snow in Detroit. Said it would be 4 or 8, still no word on when it would be announced.

Called again, purporting to be an angry ticketholder (which I am), no new information, but made the guy try to find out if refunding tickets was an option. After 3 minutes on hold, hung up, tired of waiting.

I encourage everyone to keep calling, even if they're giving you the same info over and over.

Elster88
Oct 12 2006 01:28 PM

]trying to give the guy on the phone the impression I was calling from a media outlet.


How did you give this impression without saying it outright.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 01:33 PM

So 1 p.m. is ruled out then, huh?

I thought all along it would be 4 or 8.

The decent thing to do would be to just schedule it for 8. That would assure them of at least one prime-time game and if both were played they could do the split thing with FX.

Naturally, there's no reason to think that they'd be inclined to do anything out of decency. But I think that option makes reasonable business sense as well. I don't think there are that many people who are going to watch both games anyway. Despite what Tommy Lasorda's been saying, there are relatively few fans who are going to watch every postseason game, especially those that start in the afternoon during the week. Remember, that 4 p.m. East Coast start will be airing at 1 Pacific.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 12 2006 01:37 PM

Okay, so the weather forecast in Detroit is influencing the scheduling of a baseball game in Queens.

Here's the forecast for Detroit:

="National Weather Service"]Friday: A chance of rain and snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 46. Breezy, with a southwest wind between 13 and 23 mph, with gusts as high as 34 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Friday Night: A chance of rain and snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 38. Southwest wind between 6 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.



Hey, where's Mets Guy in Michigan? Why isn't he updating us with barometric readings and stuff?

Gwreck
Oct 12 2006 01:59 PM

Elster88 wrote:
]trying to give the guy on the phone the impression I was calling from a media outlet.


How did you give this impression without saying it outright.


Combination of factors -- inflection and speed, word choice, mentioning "my editor," a few other tricks, etc.

KC
Oct 12 2006 02:07 PM

Dog just said it's eight o'clock.

OlerudOwned
Oct 12 2006 04:01 PM

http://www.joesportsfan.com/column.php?storyid=225

How the players spent their day off.

A few of my favorites:

]Jose Valentin – Did what he does on every Wednesday night – groomed his mustache.


]David Wright – Put on his leather bomber jacket and headed to the diner to share an apple pie and a malt with his girl, then caught a movie at the drive-in.


]Albert Pujols – Put his full uniform on, spikes and eye black included, and stared at a picture of Tom Glavine for six consecutive hours without blinking.