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Valadius Oct 12 2006 02:47 PM

After seeing that Cory Lidle didn't have a pic up on UMDB, I decided to go look for Metly photos of other Mets without them. Kane Davis Tyler Walker (there's a better pic out there, but it's on a baseball card. Are baseball card pics ok? I doubt it, but it would be nice to know) Esix Snead Mike DeJean Jorge Velandia Jason Anderson Rick White Brett Hinchliffe Shane Halter

seawolf17 Oct 12 2006 02:50 PM

We have a "UMDB Most Wanted" thread around here somewhere... and I know Yancy would rather have no image at all that a black hat image. He's old skool.

Edgy DC Oct 12 2006 02:50 PM

The general rule is that Yancy has a fear of a black hat.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 12 2006 03:06 PM

More a loathing than a fear. I don't mind baseball card pictures. They just need to be larger than that Tyler Walker image you posted. The face has to pretty much fill up an area of 58 by 80 pixels. I also try to avoid those blank stare/grey background pictures. (I feel like I'm typing this criteria for the fifteenth time. I guess it's easier than finding it in previous posts.) If anyone wants to go on an Internet scavenger hunt, your assignment for today is to find a better Kenny Rogers picture than the one currently on his page. It has the black cap and the grey background. A full face blue cap action photo with the head at least 58 pixels x 80 would be ideal. But even falling short of that ideal, there have got to be better pictures around. The current one fails on every criteria except size.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 12 2006 03:07 PM

That Rick White would be very good, by the way, if it were larger.

seawolf17 Oct 12 2006 03:10 PM

You should put the criteria somewhere on the site.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 12 2006 03:14 PM

Nah. I appreciate that people want to help find pictures, but it doesn't really trouble me that I don't have everyone. Encouraging submissions would mean dealing with a lot of e-mails with attachments, many of which would be useless.

seawolf17 Oct 12 2006 03:16 PM

You should encourage people to post their picture contributions in a thread here in the Pool. Aha! A Pool member recruitment tool!

Rotblatt Oct 12 2006 03:24 PM

]If anyone wants to go on an Internet scavenger hunt, your assignment for today is to find a better Kenny Rogers picture than the one currently on his page. Done. That was easy.

cooby Oct 12 2006 03:25 PM

seawolf17 wrote: You should encourage people to post their picture contributions in a thread here in the Pool. Aha! A Pool member recruitment tool! Rotblatt, lol... In re to seawolf comments, maybe that is where all these people with the fascinating websites come from every night

Rotblatt Oct 12 2006 03:27 PM

He looks a little constipated here, but . . .

Valadius Oct 12 2006 03:34 PM

Tyler Walker Philip Humber Kenny Rogers

Valadius Oct 12 2006 03:38 PM

Kenny Rogers

Valadius Oct 12 2006 04:11 PM

Mike DiFelice

Valadius Oct 13 2006 01:44 PM

Are any of these good, Yancy?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 13 2006 02:29 PM

I might cherrypick a few, but none of them really send me. The Humber one is ineligible because it's not a real Mets cap, it's just that spring training/practice cap. That's even less acceptable than the all-black one.

SteveJRogers Oct 15 2006 03:27 PM

Carlos Mendoza

Edgy DC Oct 15 2006 03:44 PM

Goofy-handed. Good note for the bio.

MFS62 Oct 15 2006 04:04 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: That Rick White would be very good, by the way, if it were larger. How big do you want his butt to look? Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 15 2006 04:33 PM

MFS62 Oct 15 2006 05:50 PM

Some (big) butts are nice to look at. White's isn't one of them. LOL! Later

Valadius Oct 16 2006 01:02 PM

Philip Humber

MFS62 Oct 16 2006 01:07 PM

Val, that looks like a Bar Mitzvah picture, with the kid wearing his favorite gift. I'm not sure if a non-full-uni shot is UMDB-worthy. I'll let the "experts" judge that. Later

Willets Point Oct 16 2006 01:12 PM

MFS62 wrote: Some (big) butts are nice to look at. White's isn't one of them. LOL! Later My anaconda don't want none Unless you've got buns, hun You can do side bends or sit-ups, But please don't lose that butt

Valadius Oct 16 2006 01:12 PM

Do we go with this Mike DiFelice: or this one: I prefer the shades.

Valadius Oct 16 2006 01:14 PM

Well the above Humber is probably better than this one:

metirish Oct 16 2006 01:15 PM

Blue caps Val....

MFS62 Oct 16 2006 01:16 PM

Willets Point wrote: [ My anaconda don't want none Unless you've got buns, hun You can do side bends or sit-ups, But please don't lose that butt A Sir MIX-A-LOT reference. Very good. Later

Valadius Oct 16 2006 01:19 PM

Well any Mets cap is better than no Mets cap. There are no pics out there that I can find for some of these guys with blue caps.

soupcan Oct 16 2006 01:21 PM

Well that's the challenge.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 01:22 PM

="Valadius"]Do we go with this Mike DiFelice: or this one: I prefer the shades. For now, neither. I don't really like including shades. I'll probably replace the Lo Duca mug shot one of these days with one that doesn't include shades, even if I have to abandon the blue cap.

MFS62 Oct 16 2006 01:31 PM

Yancy, why do you have this "thing" against blue caps? Just curious. Later

Edgy DC Oct 16 2006 01:32 PM

His "thing" is for blue caps.

Willets Point Oct 16 2006 01:34 PM

I thought his "thing" was big, scaly, and orange. Thanks to Comics Curmudgeon, now when I see a word in quotes I think of this:

Valadius Oct 16 2006 01:41 PM

Royce Ring, still not a blue cap, but better than what's there now.

MFS62 Oct 16 2006 01:44 PM

I meant for blue caps. Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 01:50 PM

The blue caps are the true caps.

soupcan Oct 16 2006 01:53 PM

Are blue caps preferable to blue batting helmets or are the helmets just as good?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 01:59 PM

If I had a cap photo and a helmet photo, both of equal quality, I'd choose the cap. But I've used plenty of helmet photos, and I'm not looking to replace them.

soupcan Oct 16 2006 02:04 PM

But blue helmets are better than black caps, right?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 02:07 PM

Most definitely. If blue caps are 100% desirable, blue helmets are 99%. I make virtually no distinction. (I tried explaining that above but I guess I didn't do a good job of it.) The all-black caps and helmets are a last resort. The blue-brimmed caps occupy the middle ground. I'm not sure where I stand on the blue and black helmets. I think they only appear once, for Xavier Nady. Meanwhile, in other UMDB news, David Wright has finally cracked the all-time Top Twenty for hit counts. In the last day or so he knocked Bobby Valentine out of the Top Twenty and also passed Willie Mays, so he's now in 19th place.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2006 02:13 PM

He was also number one yesterday, relegating poor Cory Lidle to UMDB history.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 02:15 PM

I noticed that, too. Lidle's reign only lasted three days. (Mookie Wilson won the fourth day after the plane crash.) I think Jeff Reardon got a full week out of his jewelry store robbery.

Edgy DC Oct 16 2006 02:16 PM

All Mookie had to do was appear in the seats at Busch.

Vic Sage Oct 16 2006 02:20 PM

more J-Lo butt shots, please!

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 02:23 PM

She is considerably hotter than Rick White.

Valadius Oct 16 2006 03:28 PM

One thing I've noticed is that Carlos Delgado rarely gets any hits on UMDB. Even with the postseason he's having, he's still ranked only 757 out of 799.

cooby Oct 16 2006 03:30 PM

I just looked at him.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 03:38 PM

Valadius wrote: One thing I've noticed is that Carlos Delgado rarely gets any hits on UMDB. Even with the postseason he's having, he's still ranked only 757 out of 799. Yes, he is somewhat underappreciated. But it's also become a rather steep climb for newcomers. Right now, to get "into the pack" you have to rise to about 760th place. Now that Delgado's there, he should start passing some people. (The lowest ranked Met who has been in the database since it began is Dennis Musgraves in 760th place. It looks like Delgado passed him about a week ago.)

Valadius Oct 16 2006 03:54 PM

I found a blue cap photo of Jeff Barry: It's a little small, but I can make it bigger. Only problem would be how I get the photo from my desktop to the web.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 03:55 PM

I can make it bigger, too, but you lose clarity when you do it.

Valadius Oct 16 2006 03:59 PM

Jay Kleven

MFS62 Oct 16 2006 09:04 PM

Dear Doctor UMDB; About 3:45 this afternoon, as I was entering an office building, the name Bill Hepler jumped into my head. Is this a serious condition? Do you think it was brought on by reading the name Jay Kleven earlier this afternoon? What do you recommend as treatment? Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 16 2006 10:00 PM

Get a good night's sleep. Late night tomorrow.

SteveJRogers Oct 16 2006 10:03 PM

MFS62 wrote: Dear Doctor UMDB; About 3:45 this afternoon, as I was entering an office building, the name Bill Hepler jumped into my head. Is this a serious condition? Do you think it was brought on by reading the name Jay Kleven earlier this afternoon? What do you recommend as treatment? Later Hey could be worse, you could have suddenly thought of Frank Tepedino

MFS62 Oct 17 2006 07:29 AM

SteveJRogers wrote: ="MFS62"]Dear Doctor UMDB; About 3:45 this afternoon, as I was entering an office building, the name Bill Hepler jumped into my head. Is this a serious condition? Do you think it was brought on by reading the name Jay Kleven earlier this afternoon? What do you recommend as treatment? Later Hey could be worse, you could have suddenly thought of Frank Tepedino When I start having Yankee thoughts like that, I will end it all. No doctor would be able to help me. I'd be too far gone. Later

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:07 PM

Henry Owens

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:10 PM

Philip Humber

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:18 PM

Michael Tucker

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:38 PM

Jason Middlebrook

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:41 PM

Kane Davis

DocTee Oct 18 2006 09:47 PM

Dude, what part of "no black hats/jersey" is unclear?

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:49 PM

It's very hard to find blue hat pictures for these guys.

DocTee Oct 18 2006 09:50 PM

I know-- and everytime I see a new addition to this thread, I hope/wish it's in the classic uni--

Valadius Oct 18 2006 09:57 PM

Here's one to replace a black cap. Dennis Cook

Yancy Street Gang Oct 18 2006 10:00 PM

There's a game on Valadius. Watch the game.

SteveJRogers Oct 18 2006 10:16 PM

Valadius wrote: It's very hard to find blue hat pictures for these guys. Then just let it go. No need to find something just so Yance can remove the Mr. Met pic from a Met sans his picture in UMDB. Sure there are some in there, but for the most part, make sure things fit the criteria. And see if they've been posted before, I know I've tried posting that Henry Owens pic before and Yancy didn't take it. Chances are, Yancy has seen most of the images on the net, hell he never did find a blue caped Xavier Nady that was a good clean full shot of him Yancy knows your trying to help, but this seems like a little too hard, plus like the man said, THERES A GAME ON! Steve

cooby Oct 18 2006 11:28 PM

Nady wore a cape?

Valadius Oct 18 2006 11:30 PM

Chad Bradford

Willets Point Oct 18 2006 11:30 PM

cooby wrote: Nady wore a cape? He was stylish that way.

cooby Oct 18 2006 11:32 PM

That could be a whole nuther catagory for Yancy to start

Yancy Street Gang Oct 18 2006 11:35 PM

I had to swear not to post any of their secret identities. And Valadius, I appreciate the effort, but many of those pictures aren't usable. I already have a better picture of Bradford, and that Dennis Cook is too blurry. I'm going to burn tonight's game to DVD and I may try getting some screen captures over the next few days.

Edgy DC Oct 18 2006 11:36 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 19 2006 12:04 AM

Guillermo Mota: Chad Bradford: Manny Acta: Jose Valentin: Vacationland: Our hero: Everyone wants to touch him: Shawn Green:

Yancy Street Gang Oct 18 2006 11:52 PM

Thanks, but none of those Maines are better than the one I already have.

Valadius Oct 18 2006 11:59 PM

This Maine might be.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 19 2006 07:57 AM

Again, thank you, but I'm not looking for a new John Maine. The one I have is just fine.

MFS62 Oct 19 2006 09:25 AM

The update guy on ESPN radio this morning pointed out that the Mets were wearing their "old" unis last night. Later

Valadius Oct 19 2006 11:47 AM

Finally, a decent Michael Tucker.

Valadius Oct 19 2006 11:54 AM

This would be good for Julio Franco if you could photoshop Willie's fingers out from behind his head.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 19 2006 12:45 PM

I did grab that Franco one as well. Not sure if I'll use it though. In addition to the fingers, Franco's expression doesn't really look like he usually does.

MFS62 Oct 19 2006 12:48 PM

Why? Because he's smiling? Its better than many player pics in which they have the standard deer in headlights expression. Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 19 2006 12:51 PM

True. But Franco's more a scowler than a smiler. Despite the helmet color, I still like this picture better: http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0778

Yancy Street Gang Oct 19 2006 12:56 PM

I did like the Michael Tucker picture; it was just about perfect: http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0794 Thanks!

Valadius Oct 19 2006 03:34 PM

You're welcome Yancy! I noticed that you changed the pictures for Shawn Green, Jose Valentin, and I think Endy Chavez. Anyone else?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 19 2006 03:47 PM

Rick Peterson. I was able to capture blue cap (or helmet) photos from the telecast of last night's game. First time I had ever done that. I may yet grab a Lo Duca, a Bradford, and a Mota.

Valadius Oct 19 2006 09:18 PM

Oliver Perez

SteveJRogers Oct 22 2006 08:36 PM

Dick "Dirt" Tidrow

SteveJRogers Oct 22 2006 10:03 PM

Couple of early 80 MIAs Dyar Miller And a couple of radio personality Sid Rosenberg's favorite Met, Phil Mankowski

SteveJRogers Oct 22 2006 10:09 PM

Dave Roberts

Yancy Street Gang Oct 22 2006 10:10 PM

AGAIN, thank you, but I don't want tiny and blurry photos.

SteveJRogers Oct 22 2006 10:21 PM

Bruce Bochy Hmmmmmm...someday I'll show the Mets! I'll be a BIG LEAGUE MANAGER! And I'll use my big cranium to be the best Manager in my team's history!

metirish Oct 22 2006 10:22 PM

it seems yancy can't get through to some.....

SteveJRogers Oct 22 2006 10:25 PM

metirish wrote: it seems yancy can't get through to some..... Heh, I thought I was trying my darndest to clean some of those photos up, but I guess to no avail, oh well, keep plugging away... Posted that Bochy shot as Yance was posting, but I still love that pic and had to use that caption

Valadius Oct 23 2006 11:28 AM

Here's Kenny Rogers again.

Valadius Oct 23 2006 12:13 PM

Here's a playing-days Willie Randolph.

cooby Oct 23 2006 12:23 PM

I think Yancy ought to commission Zvon to draw all the guys in blue hats that he is missing.

Valadius Oct 23 2006 12:57 PM

Also, Endy Chavez's middle name is DeJesus, not William, according to ESPN.com and Wikipedia.

metirish Oct 23 2006 12:58 PM

Mets.com has it as William.

Valadius Oct 23 2006 01:01 PM

Huh. Strange.

Valadius Oct 23 2006 01:04 PM

Oh wait a minute, go to the bottom of his profile on Mets.com, it says "Endy DeJesus Chavez graduated from Liceo Batalia Carabobo High School in Valencia, VZ". So I'm guessing DeJesus is right, and William is just a mistake.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 01:11 PM

I'm still not sure without seeing his birth certificate. It is very common on Spanish speaking countries to use the mother's maiden name as part of the person's second-to-last name. Unlike where women today use a hyphen when they add their married name to their maiden name, the Latinos do not hyphenate them. Someone unfamilliar with that custom could easily mistake the mother's name as a middle name. So, William may be his true middle name. Later

Valadius Oct 23 2006 01:17 PM

Actually, MFS, as I understand it, it's the opposite. The mother's maiden name is actually tacked on at the end in Spanish-speaking countries. From Wikipedia article on "Family name": However, nowadays in Spain and in many countries of Hispanic culture (former Spanish colonies, e.g. Mexico, Honduras, Colombia, Peru, Chile, Venezuela), most people have two surnames, although in some situations only the first is used. The first surname is the paternal one, inherited from the father's paternal surname. The second surname is the maternal one, inherited from the mother's paternal surname. (As an example, Mexican boxer Marco Antonio Barrera's full name is Marco Antonio Barrera Tapia, though Barrera is the only one used in general conversation.)

Yancy Street Gang Oct 23 2006 01:25 PM

cooby wrote: I think Yancy ought to commission Zvon to draw all the guys in blue hats that he is missing. Nah. If I wanted drawings I could do them myself.

MFS62 Oct 23 2006 01:26 PM

Thanks, Val. So, it still becomes a surname, not a middle name. Later

cooby Oct 23 2006 01:46 PM

Yancy, do you draw?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 23 2006 01:49 PM

Not too often any more, but I used to draw (and paint) a lot. I'll probably start up again after my kids are a little older.

cooby Oct 23 2006 01:51 PM

:) That's what I used to say...

Yancy Street Gang Oct 23 2006 01:54 PM

I know. I probably should have said "maybe" and "after I retire."

Valadius Oct 23 2006 04:08 PM

Here's a bunch of full names to fill in some blanks, Yancy: Pedro Juan Feliciano Guillermo Reynoso Mota Roberto Manuel Hernandez Alain Soler Oliver Michael Perez Marlon Ordell Anderson Felix Santo Heredia

Yancy Street Gang Oct 23 2006 04:09 PM

From where are you getting these?

Valadius Oct 23 2006 04:10 PM

From mlb.com.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 23 2006 04:10 PM

Some of the names are a little blurry.

Valadius Oct 23 2006 10:13 PM

You crack me up Yancy!

Yancy Street Gang Oct 24 2006 08:39 PM

I can't get to the UMDB tonight. Can anybody else get there? I'm trying to determine if the problem is on my end. Thanks!

Valadius Oct 24 2006 08:42 PM

I can't get there either.

metirish Oct 24 2006 08:43 PM

Me neither...

Yancy Street Gang Oct 24 2006 08:44 PM

Well, I guess it's not on my end. Thanks for checking.

Zvon Oct 24 2006 08:53 PM

Yea- it wont load. I wouldnt draw Mets in blue hats. Id photoshop em. Yance made it clear he's not interested in that a long time ago. Yance, you should give Val a medal or something, at least for his efforts. Rogers too.

seawolf17 Oct 24 2006 09:10 PM

A world without the UMDB is a world that I don't want to live in.

Zvon Oct 24 2006 09:12 PM

seawolf17 wrote: A world without the UMDB is a world that I don't want to live in. I second that emotion.

Elster88 Oct 24 2006 10:50 PM

Personal UMDB memory: first time I saw it was a random google looking for Met stuff. The first thing that caught my eye was the pictorial starting lineup that the box score were accompanied by. A couple years later I was looking for that site again to show my buddy "I saw this really cool site that had the starting lineup in pictures but I can't remember where the heck it is."

Zvon Oct 24 2006 11:09 PM

I ran into it first time in 2002, I guess. Bookmarked it 1st thing. Maybe even prior to that by a bit, but used it alot while researching for that 25th anniversary Met card set in 2002. Probly already had it bookmarked by then. Thats when I ran into all these sites-UMDB, Cranpool Forum(must hv been the old one-looked different), Mr Whithams great photos, and Mets By The Numbers (<a surprisingly great source for many Met pics) I think I made an entry at the UMDB under Tommie Agees Met memories. Never could find it afterwards tho.

Valadius Oct 25 2006 12:18 AM

It's back up now.

metirish Oct 26 2006 02:39 PM

Nice pic of Bobby in blue.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 02:45 PM

Thanks, but I have a picture of player Bobby, and the policy is to picture them as players if they're one of the 799 (and counting.) I did the same with Willie Randolph, Gil Hodges, and Dallas Green. I have a circa 1965 photo of Yogi Berra, too, although I can't be sure it wasn't taken after he had moved from playing to coaching. (It probably was.) Funny, I don't remember the Mets winning the Stanley Cup. I pay little attention to hockey, but even I probably would have been aware of that.

metirish Oct 26 2006 02:47 PM

I thought that was the WC trophy....good policy btw.

soupcan Oct 26 2006 02:54 PM

Water Closet?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 02:59 PM

Careful, soupcan. Remember what happened to Jack Paar.

metirish Oct 26 2006 03:00 PM

Yes ,the Water Closet Trophy the Mets won in 1999,Yancy can you post a list of players with no pic,thanks.

cooby Oct 26 2006 03:06 PM

What happened to Jack Paar?

MFS62 Oct 26 2006 03:06 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Careful, soupcan. Remember what happened to Jack Paar. Someone (Mole?) told me I'm not the oldest member of this board. But now I'm starting to believe it. :) Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 03:17 PM

Sorry, MFS62, Jack Paar was definitely before my time. I was born during the early days of Johnny Carson's run. But that doesn't mean I don't know about Jack.

MFS62 Oct 26 2006 03:21 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: But that doesn't mean I don't know about Jack. People tell me I don't know Jack. Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 03:27 PM

Okay, because you asked for it, here we go again... There are photos for all but 115 of the 799 Mets. (That's over 85 per cent!) The players are listed in order of preference, and that preference is determined solely by the player's UMDB lookup popularity. 1. Bob Gibson 2. Mauro Gozzo 3. Steve Bieser 4. Chuck McElroy 5. Alvaro Espinoza 6. Bruce Bochy 7. Dale Murray 8. Billy Taylor 9. Jim Gosger 10. Willie Blair 11. C. J. Nitkowski 12. Toby Borland 13. Rick White 14. Pat Tabler 15. Jorge Fabregas 16. Mike Bishop 17. Butch Metzger 18. Herm Winningham 19. Doc Medich 20. Jim Dwyer 21. Wayne Kirby 22. Donne Wall 23. Darrin Jackson 24. Ryan McGuire 25. Mac Scarce 26. Jerry May 27. Dwight Bernard 28. Brad Clontz 29. Rick Wilkins 30. Tom Sturdivant 31. Jerry Martin 32. Brent Strom 33. Kane Davis 34. Wes Gardner 35. Dick Tidrow 36. Brady Clark 37. Edwin Almonte 38. Jay Kleven 39. Esix Snead 40. Mario Diaz 41. McKay Christensen 42. Gary Bennett 43. Tony Castillo 45. Roger Mason 44. Bob Johnson 46. Don Schulze 47. Phil Mankowski 48. Tom Edens 49. Jorge Velandia 50. Barry Jones 51. Brett Hinchliffe 52. Ike Hampton 53. Danny Boitano 54. Jason Middlebrook 55. David Lamb 56. Jeff Barry 57. Bob Johnson 58. Leon Brown 59. Don Florence 61. Ross Jones 60. Mike Birkbeck 62. Brock Pemberton 63. Jeff Tam 64. Tom Martin 65. Jason Anderson 66. Bob Gallagher 67. Dave Roberts 68. Dave Eilers 69. Shane Halter 70. Dyar Miller 71. Jonathan Hurst 72. Lou Klimchock 73. Francisco Estrada 74. Kenny Greer 75. Joe DePastino 76. Joe Nolan 78. Shawn Hare 77. Joe Grzenda 79. Tito Navarro 80. Bob Rauch 81. Jim Marshall 82. John Strohmayer 83. Tyler Walker 84. Tom Filer 85. Jeff Kaiser 86. Jim Mann 87. Rick Parker 88. Jeff Gardner 89. Steve Springer 90. Barry Manuel 91. Mickey Weston 92. Todd Haney 93. Wayne Housie 94. Nick Willhite 95. Juan Castillo 96. Mike Fyhrie 97. Rich Sauveur 98. Kevin Morgan 99. Dan Murray 100. Don Rowe 101. Bobby Gene Smith 102. Mike DeJean 103. Don Rose 104. Darrell Sutherland 105. Carlos Mendoza 106. Gary Thurman 107. José Parra 108. Matt Watson 109. Brian Buchanan 110. Mike DiFelice 111. Tom Wilson 112. José Santiago 113. Ricky Ledee 114. Henry Owens 115. Philip Humber

metirish Oct 26 2006 03:31 PM

Thanks Yancy, I have a few hours to kill at work, and Val has a whole off-season to kill...

metirish Oct 26 2006 03:33 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 26 2006 03:34 PM

Damn I thought I had one... Mauro Gozzo

MFS62 Oct 26 2006 03:34 PM

If someone scanned in a team picture, could you use software to cut out and enlarge an individual player for the UMDB? Seems to me some of those guys shold be in at least one of the team pictures. Later

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 03:36 PM

Enlarging usually results in too great a loss of clarity. I have been able to get some of the pictures by scanning team photos from yearbooks, though. I think most of the missing guys are midseason aquisitions who weren't around for the team photo as printed in the yearbook.

metirish Oct 26 2006 03:45 PM

Not sure if you want to use this one of Alvaro Espinoza

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 03:47 PM

AGAIN, I appreciate your desire to help, but small and/or blurry photos are of no use to me. (See my first post in this thread, on page 1.)

MFS62 Oct 26 2006 03:49 PM

If that's what Espinosa looked like, maybe you could use a head shot picture of Jose Valentin instead. They're both members of the Porn Stache Club. Later

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 04:09 PM

Humber hasn't actually pitched yet, so I don't think we'll be finding a game shot until next season. Ledee hauling ass Agent Mike DiFelice NOT the UMDB needed one, but here's a Bob Gibson in a Mets uni, just for kicks. Rick White Donne Wall, who's eyes you can see if you squint a bit. Maybe later I'll do a bit more digging.

Edgy DC Oct 26 2006 04:13 PM

You stopped paying attention at the end of the season. Humber pitched twice.

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 04:19 PM

Edgy DC wrote: You stopped paying attention at the end of the season. Humber pitched twice. Dammit, he did. I though I as paying attention...

metirish Oct 26 2006 04:20 PM

OO, Blue caps only or helemts.

seawolf17 Oct 26 2006 04:21 PM

Does nobody pay attention to the blue hat rule? Yancy, I have some tiny, blurry, black-hatted pictures of everyone on the list. (Even the guys from the 70s!) I'll e-mail them to you as one enormous zip file.

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 04:22 PM

metirish wrote: OO, Blue caps only or helemts. For some players, blue hat just isn't a possibility. While the black caps are ugly, it's better than nothing.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 04:29 PM

metirish wrote: OO, Blue caps only or helemts. Not necessarily true. Blue caps are preferred, but there are many black, and black-and-blue, caps on the UMDB.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 26 2006 04:31 PM

seawolf17 wrote: Does nobody pay attention to the blue hat rule? Yancy, I have some tiny, blurry, black-hatted pictures of everyone on the list. (Even the guys from the 70s!) I'll e-mail them to you as one enormous zip file. Make them as tiny and blurry as you can, please. Thanks.

Valadius Oct 26 2006 06:31 PM

That Ledee is most likely the best out there.

Valadius Oct 26 2006 06:52 PM

OO, are you paying for those pics?

Valadius Oct 26 2006 07:55 PM

Black and blue, but... Rick White

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 07:57 PM

Valadius wrote: OO, are you paying for those pics? No, which is why I'm only grabbing ones where the face isn't obscured by the watermark. Fair game, right? Right?

Valadius Oct 26 2006 08:04 PM

Because I went to the Getty Images website, and I try and pull images from there, but it won't let me.

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 08:07 PM

Valadius wrote: Because I went to the Getty Images website, and I try and pull images from there, but it won't let me. I've been copying the image locations and trans-hosting them at [url=www.imageshack.us]imageshack[/url].

Valadius Oct 26 2006 08:15 PM

Not a player, but here's a coach: Rick Waits

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 08:24 PM

DeJean

OlerudOwned Oct 26 2006 08:34 PM

Jose Parra Kane Davis (I can't tell if its too small or not, my eyes don't count pixels) Dammit, Jeff Tam, move your damn glove!

Valadius Oct 27 2006 12:41 AM

Toby Borland Willie Blair Donne Wall Ryan McGuire Rick Wilkins Dick Tidrow (somebody has to buy this or whatever, so we can get the watermark off. The important thing is that this is out there.) Brady Clark (too bad it's not really a Mets cap) David Lamb Jorge Velandia (this is priceless...) Barry Jones Jeff Tam

Valadius Oct 27 2006 07:10 PM

How are these, Yancy?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 27 2006 08:31 PM

I'll probably grab a few of them. It's too bad about that watermark over Dick Tidrow's face. That was the nicest of them.

Zvon Oct 27 2006 08:49 PM

That Tidrow is excellent. He looks so much like Mattingly from the 80's there. But I suppose he always kinda did look like the Mattman. Val, can't you register at the GettyImage site and then have the privilage of viewing (and saving) the images without the watermark? I know thats how it works at Corbis (an image site) , and there to register is free. At Corbis they have one nice image of Tidrow, but he's a Cubbie.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 03:26 PM

Very quietly, David Wright has moved into 18th place all-time in look-ups.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 29 2006 03:29 PM

It looks like it will be at least two months before he catches Kevin Mitchell for 17th place. He has a shot at being in 15th place by Opening Day.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 03:55 PM

I think you have to purchase images to remove the watermark.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 05:00 PM

Tom Martin Jason Anderson Shane Halter Joe DePastino Jim Mann Rick Parker Barry Manuel Todd Haney Wayne Housie Mike Fyhrie Dan Murray Matt Watson

metirish Oct 29 2006 05:02 PM

Anderson looks about 15 in that pic,Mann looks like Miquel Cairo.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2006 05:11 PM

Watson is a day late on that cut, isn't he?

Elster88 Oct 29 2006 05:30 PM

That's a great Mike Fyhrie. Not that I know who the hell that is.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 05:52 PM

By the way, Yancy, you already have the pics for Tito Navarro and Darrell Sutherland up on UMDB.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 29 2006 05:55 PM

How do you like that? Thanks for pointing it out. I guess I forgot to update their records when I posted the pictures. I also posted Rick White and Ricky Ledee today, so the want list is down to 111 players.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 06:27 PM

Uh... Yancy? Why is the UMDB showing up as a bunch of garbled code?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 29 2006 07:51 PM

It's a "dehancement." Actually, I was unaware of it until you pointed it out. I opened a support ticket. Hopefully it'll be fixed within a few hours.

Valadius Oct 29 2006 08:12 PM

It's started coming back up. Some parts are still down.

Zvon Oct 29 2006 08:14 PM

Valadius wrote: I think you have to purchase images to remove the watermark. I registered here> http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/home/home.aspx If thats the same site..... Now I can view all images without the watermark. And save without watermark. Didnt try linking, but if its anything like Corbis that wont be possible. None of my searches revealed any of these pics you have found here. That has to be the most unuser friendly website Ive ever visited. Can you link me to the section of the site that has these images?

Valadius Oct 29 2006 08:19 PM

Right here: [url]http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/Product.aspx?p=2&e=0&pg=1&am=-1[/url]

Zvon Oct 29 2006 08:27 PM

Valadius wrote: Right here: [url]http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/Product.aspx?p=2&e=0&pg=1&am=-1[/url] thnx Val. Ill keep you imformed as to the watermark business. You should register but..... you still might not wish to , since they insist you give your home address and phone number as well as the usual Email info. Very intrusive, if you ask me. But I made everything up cept for my Email. My home address and phone number is none of their business.

Zvon Oct 29 2006 08:36 PM

Update: Dont bother registering- all pics in this section contain the watermark even when logged in. Thats F'd up. Join Corbis- they remove the watermark upon registration.

cooby Oct 29 2006 10:09 PM

Valadius wrote: It's started coming back up. Some parts are still down. Has there always been that little fanfare when you first open it? I never noticed it before. Cool!

Yancy Street Gang Oct 30 2006 10:05 AM

huh?

Farmer Ted Oct 30 2006 10:41 AM

Wayne Housie?

Valadius Oct 30 2006 12:11 PM

It's down again... an "internal server error".

Valadius Oct 30 2006 12:28 PM

It's back up now.

Valadius Oct 30 2006 12:30 PM

And now it's down again. What is going on?

metirish Oct 30 2006 12:31 PM

I'm sure Yancy is out back working on it Val...

Johnny Dickshot Oct 30 2006 12:38 PM

Where's the find the rosters for MBTN thread?

Yancy Street Gang Oct 30 2006 01:08 PM

Valadius wrote: And now it's down again. What is going on? I haven't received an explanation yet for this latest outage, but it does appear to be back. The hosting company is usually pretty responsive. They seem to be having a bad week, though.

Zvon Oct 30 2006 08:17 PM

="Zvon"]Update: Dont bother registering- all pics in this section contain the watermark even when logged in. Thats F'd up. Join Corbis- they remove the watermark upon registration. on a further side note: While I was at the Gettyimage site, I figured id purchase one just for the hell of it. To see the possible price range. I picked the most worthless image I could find, a picture of Perez dancing over the baseline on his way off the mound. Figuring the image had no baring on the game, I figured it would be on the cheaper end of the spectrum, if they defferentiate. So, for: Subject: Perez off the mound Image size: Medium Usage: Web page Time: for a 6 month period starting with purchase. 135$ ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE BUCKS! What a joke.

Valadius Nov 02 2006 01:10 PM

Some blue-hat pics to replace black-hat pics: Jay Bell Turk Wendell Robin Ventura Robin Ventura (again) Orel Hershiser Kenny Rogers Glendon Rusch

Yancy Street Gang Nov 02 2006 01:21 PM

Those are nice, and thank you, but given that $135 usage fee, I may have to steer clear of Getty images.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 03 2006 09:12 AM

New feature

Edgy DC Nov 03 2006 09:15 AM

That's a fun toy. Cliff Floyd, despite the time he's missed, is on a three-year streak as the Mets most plunked batsman.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 04 2006 11:51 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: New feature Don't be dissing Richie Ashburn's 424 OBP in '62 however. That was the Met standard for 36 years!

Yancy Street Gang Nov 04 2006 03:20 PM

It looks like he fell short of the 500 plate appearances he'd need to qualify. 161 games times 3.1 is 499.1. Ashburn had only 473 plate appearances.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 04 2006 04:20 PM

Yeah, just noticed that.

Zvon Nov 04 2006 10:32 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: New feature That is an excellent page of info there.

Edgy DC Nov 13 2006 09:57 AM

Here's one. If I dial up Bobby Valentine (or Willie Randolph or Dallas Green or Mike Cubbage, etc.) I get the dates that they were acquired or divested as players by the Mets, but I don't get the dates they were hired or fired as managers. Is that do-able?

Yancy Street Gang Nov 13 2006 10:02 AM

I think so. It would require a little coding, and I'd have to track down the dates for each manager, but it's something I can add to my mental to-do list.

SteveJRogers Nov 13 2006 05:57 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I think so. It would require a little coding, and I'd have to track down the dates for each manager, but it's something I can add to my mental to-do list. I think I may have included the hire and fire dates in that long year by year coaches posts a few weeks ago in the triva thread about Manny Acta.

Gwreck Nov 14 2006 07:28 PM

Umm, that Jay Bell picture (above) looks a lot like Tom Glavine. Especially considering that Bell didn't bat left.

seawolf17 Nov 20 2006 01:16 PM

Henry Owens has a blue-hat photo on his 2006 Topps insert card: This was the only image I could find, but I'll try to track down a bigger scan.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 08 2006 02:54 PM

Somebody just wrote to me and said that this isn't Doug Saunders: http://www.ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0491 He said it's Darren Reed. I have no memory of what Doug Saunders looked like. I got the image from MetsCollector.com. Anyone have any opinion on this, one way or the other? Thanks.

metirish Dec 08 2006 03:00 PM

can't find another image of Doug Saunders....but reed doesn't look like him. UMDB Reed pic... I think the guy is wrong.

A Boy Named Seo Dec 08 2006 03:11 PM

Darren's hitting lefty in that card when he's listed as a righty. Might explain the .205 BA.

soupcan Dec 08 2006 03:14 PM

Whichever of those guys those pictures are of, in each pic the dude has the same freaky Spock-like eyebrows.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 11 2006 05:03 PM

Today is Derek Bell's birthday. And it's also Jay Bell's birthday. So who's the leading UMDB hit-getter so far today? Gus Bell Maybe people are checking to see why he wasn't also born on December 11. It would have been cool if he was.

Nymr83 Dec 11 2006 05:08 PM

where do you see that? or is this something only visible to admins?

SteveJRogers Dec 11 2006 05:35 PM

Nymr83 wrote: where do you see that? or is this something only visible to admins? THE admin can only see the tracking. You should see a notice about it when the daily lookup section of the All Time Roster page changes automatically tommorrow

Yancy Street Gang Dec 11 2006 08:16 PM

Nymr83 wrote: where do you see that? or is this something only visible to admins? Yes. I can peek under the covers and see who's leading for the day. I don't have it exposed to visitors because they might be tempted to manipulate the results. It's been known to happen!

Willets Point Dec 11 2006 10:57 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: ="Nymr83"]where do you see that? or is this something only visible to admins? Yes. I can peek under the covers and see who's leading for the day. I don't have it exposed to visitors because they might be tempted to manipulate the results. It's been known to happen! Who would do a thing like that? It would be unfair to the Billy Wynne's of the world.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 12 2006 06:03 AM

Lee Mazzilli ends up winning the day. Sorry, Gus.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 22 2006 08:01 AM

For the first time ever, Hubie Brooks was the most popular UMDB daily lookup. On the UMDB popularity index, he had been the 13th highest ranking player who had never previously won a daily title.

Johnny Dickshot Dec 22 2006 08:08 AM

Strange. I was doing some Hubie Brooks research about a week ago, but I guess not enough to boost him all by myself.

Edgy DC Dec 22 2006 08:14 AM

Is Joe Quesada chasing them there?

Yancy Street Gang Dec 22 2006 08:36 AM

That could be. There may have been a few people who read that article and said, "Who the hell is Hubie Brooks?"

Yancy Street Gang Dec 22 2006 09:53 AM

Some interesting Jerry Grote stuff has been posted recently.

cooby Dec 22 2006 10:11 AM

That's a good story. I guess we all had high hopes that year. I forgot about DJ Dozier, he wasn't a local guy but around here we were excited for him because he played football for Penn State and then played for the Williamsport Bills, who were then affiliated with the NY Mets. I guess I was even more excited about him than the Vikings/Mets fan guy. We drove up to Bellefonte High School to get his autograph on his card; I am sure my daughter still has it somewhere. He's a minister now, I believe. Sad about his dual careers, but at least he's not selling cars PS, I saw DJ Dozier while scrolling down...

Edgy DC Dec 22 2006 10:20 AM

That "The Ghost of Bad Met Trades Past" poster sounds like a great contributor.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 22 2006 10:34 AM

"Ghost" makes Shari look like a ray of sunshine, doesn't he/she?

Yancy Street Gang Dec 23 2006 07:37 AM

Yesterday: a four-way tie: http://ultimatemets.com/lookups.php?MonthNum=12&year=2006

Edgy DC Dec 23 2006 01:08 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 23 2006 11:40 PM

Was Downey, CA celebrating Rich Rodriguez Week earlier this month?

SteveJRogers Dec 23 2006 02:55 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Was Downey, CA celebrating Rich Rodriguez Week earlier this month? [url=http://www.wvva.com/Sports/index.php?ID=8750]College football coach with the same name[/url] Current coach of West Virgina was in talks with Alabama about their job before re-upping with WV and that was the latest "College coach tries to leverage a better deal out of current place of employment based on overtures from another school" controversy

Yancy Street Gang Dec 27 2006 04:31 PM

Our friends at Faith and Fear are looking to propel Roy McMillan to his first-ever daily victory. His hit count for today isn't huge, but nobody's running away with it today, and Roy is currently on top.

G-Fafif Dec 28 2006 03:50 PM

I had no idea Roy was in the running until JD spurred me to look up Mark Bradley, and am thus weirdly gratified that the Gerald Ford of Mets managers hung on. Huzzah for the interim skippers of the world! Never underestimate the power of warped sensibilities on a slow Mets news day.

Yancy Street Gang Dec 28 2006 04:07 PM

I think I saw a story on CNN this morning that referred to Gerald Ford as the "Roy McMillan of U.S. Presidents." Or maybe I was hallucinating again. I should stay away from eating Frosted Mushroom Pop-Tarts for breakfast.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 01 2007 02:50 PM

Not surprisingly, New Year's Day tends to be Danny Frisella Day.

Edgy DC Jan 02 2007 07:46 AM

I don't know where the Wifey Watch Thread is at this point, but Pam Frisella is a Council Woman (and Vice Mayor!) in Foster City, CA. Pam Frisella, Vice Mayor Term Expires November 2009 On November 5, 2005 Pam Frisella took office and will serve a four year term on the City Council. Pam is currently serving as Vice Mayor. Pam has been a resident of Foster City for 28 years. She moved here with newborn Daniel and her three year old son Jason in 1977. Pam coached Little League for 8 years and was on the AYSO Board of Directors for 5 years. She lobbied as the Chairperson of the Citizen's Committee for Development and Construction of Sea Cloud Park. She was also the Chairperson for the Committee to reconstruct Serra High School Baseball Field and named it Danny Frisella Memorial Field. She has most recently been on the Parks and Recreation Committee. In October 2005 Pam was inducted to the Sports Wall of Fame at Sea Cloud Park. Pam has been a volunteer for Samaritan House for almost 20 years and in that time has served on their Board of Directors and most recently their Community Outreach and Volunteer Coordinator. She has been named Volunteer of the year in 1995 for her work at Samaritan House and 1999 named Volunteer of the Year for her work at the Safe Harbor Homeless Shelter. Most recently she does prison ministry at San Quentin Prison. Pam has been an Ambassador for the Foster City Chamber of Commerce and has been a member of the Rotary Club of Foster City for five years. She currently serves on the Board of Directors as the International Chairperson for the club. Pam was born and raised in 1946 in Detroit, Michigan. After attending Western Michigan University for two years she worked for General Motors before moving to New York City for a career change. Pam then moved to California in 1969. While married she moved to several different cities before finally coming to Foster City after being widowed in 1977. After graduating from the Leadership program in 1998 sponsored by several Bay Area Cities, Pam realized that community service was ingrained in her soul and began to think about a role in city government. The last decade her service was directed more county wide and now her commitment will be directly to the City she loves.....Foster City.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 03 2007 02:44 PM

Brand new UMDB feature debuts today. Read the announcement, give it a try, and let me know what you think: http://www.ultimatemets.com/index.php

Edgy DC Jan 03 2007 02:55 PM

Ooh, that 6.75 relief ERA of Seaver's is fugly. Really, great job.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 03 2007 03:07 PM

That relief appearance in April of 1969 is a strange one. From Retrosheet: ] CUBS 9TH: Kessinger walked; Beckert grounded out (first unassisted) [Kessinger to second]; Williams reached on an error by Boswell [Kessinger to third]; Santo reached on an error by Collins [Kessinger scored (unearned), Williams to third, Santo out at second (first to right to second)]; Banks singled to right [Williams scored (unearned)]; Hundley homered (unearned) [Banks scored (unearned)]; Spangler walked; SEAVER REPLACED KOONCE (PITCHING); Phillips walked [Spangler to second]; Regan was called out on strikes; 4 R (0 ER), 2 H, 2 E, 2 LOB. Cubs 8, Mets 6. It was the first game of a doubleheader at Shea. Seaver had started and pitched 7 innings two days earlier. Strange that he came into the game after the Cubs had scored four runs in the ninth to take a two-run lead. You'd never see that today.

Johnny Dickshot Jan 03 2007 03:08 PM

I ran a list of three-whiff games by Dave Kingman -- neat.

Edgy DC Jan 03 2007 03:15 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 04 2007 01:09 PM

Rusty's last homer was a pinch three-run jobbie off of Jeff Reardon.. But Orosco and McDowell coughed up the lead he gave them.

seawolf17 Jan 04 2007 12:56 PM

GREAT new feature! Two additional requests: a dropdown with "as a Met"/"against the Mets", and the addition of "all postseason" as an option in the regular season/postseason dropdown. Stunning work, Yance.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 04 2007 01:16 PM

Both good ideas, Seawolf, and I'll put them on my to-do list. The next step will be to extend this search feature to opposing players. (I can probably do it with just a few lines of code.) It will make it easier, for example, to find all multi-home run games that Billy Williams had against the Mets.

Edgy DC Jan 04 2007 01:20 PM

Break the transactions down by year. But before any of that, the Mug Shots page is broken.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 04 2007 01:42 PM

The mug shots page is fixed. (I wonder how long it was broken?) Thanks for pointing it out. I'm not sure about breaking transactions down by year. That's already been done on pages like this one: http://www.ultimatemets.com/metannual.php?ThisYear=2006&tabno=5 I think there are some who like seeing the transactions all on one big page. (Admittedly, though, it's a very big page.) I don't think I'll be putting that one on the to-do list.

Edgy DC Jan 04 2007 02:00 PM

Excellent point. Sorry. I guess that's not where the drop-down needs to be. The real drop-down menus I want, I guess, are on the Birthplaces page, and, especially, the Post-Season games page.

seawolf17 Jan 04 2007 02:05 PM

Plus I want a feature on each living player's page where I can e-mail them directly and invite them over for dinner and a rousing game of Boggle.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 04 2007 02:10 PM

Edgy DC wrote: The real drop-down menus I want, I guess, are on the Birthplaces page, and, especially, the Post-Season games page. I do plan to eventually break the post-season games page down as you suggest. Maybe I'll get to that before Opening Day. I hadn't thought about it for the birthplaces page, but that's not a bad idea. I'll put that on the list, too. ="seawolf17"]Plus I want a feature on each living player's page where I can e-mail them directly and invite them over for dinner and a rousing game of Boggle. That's in the works, but, unfortunately, only for the dead players. The living ones are too busy playing golf to get involved with Boggle. Sorry.

seawolf17 Jan 04 2007 02:27 PM

Good. I look forward to kicking Don Rowe's ghost's ass.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 04 2007 08:56 PM

I'm surprised at how many games Jerry Koosman pitched in relief. And how many games Tug McGraw started. He even pitched a shutout as late as 1974.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 05 2007 01:53 PM

More new and improved stuff: You can now do the same game searches for opposing players: http://ultimatemets.com/opponent.php?PlayerCode=5829&tabno=1 And the Interactive Stats page has been revamped as well. (I couldn't believe how musty that page had gotten.) You can now do game searches there, too. For example, you can find every player to ever hit 3 home runs in a game, either for or against the Mets. Check it out!

seawolf17 Jan 05 2007 03:03 PM

Awesome. On the "individual games" drop-down, there should be a "0" option, at least for categories like runs allowed and hits allowed. (For example, all games with seven innings, zero hits.)

Yancy Street Gang Jan 11 2007 10:03 AM

Postseason games page revamped: http://ultimatemets.com/postseason.php

Edgy DC Jan 11 2007 10:20 AM

Now we're in bidness.

Yancy Street Gang Jan 11 2007 10:27 AM

I was surprised to notice that there are still a bunch of postseason games that nobody has posted a memory for.