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Edgy DC Jul 15 2005 04:33 PM

I like to look at net games back -- that is the games back a team is behind everybody. It's an answer to those who'll tell you that games back is a misleading when there are a lot of teams between your team and the leaders. I'm not sure why nobody prints standings with this column. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST AL L10 STRK Washington 52 37 .584 - - 30-13 22-24 18-18 14-9 8-4 12-6 4-6 L3 Atlanta 50 40 .556 2.5 2.5 29-14 21-26 24-19 16-7 3-6 7-8 6-4 L3 Philadelphia 46 44 .511 6.5 10.5 27-19 19-25 18-25 14-9 7-2 7-8 6-4 W3 Florida 44 43 .506 7.0 12.0 25-22 19-21 20-22 9-11 5-5 10-5 4-6 L4 New York 45 44 .506 7.0 12.0 26-18 19-26 24-20 12-12 4-2 5-10 5-5 W2

Edgy DC Jul 18 2005 02:07 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 18 2005 02:19 PM

So here. In the last few days, the Mets have lost no ground to the first-place Nationals, but have in reality backslid in the Net Games Back column, by losing games to the second- and third-place teams. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK Washington 53 39 .576 - - 30-13 23-26 18-18 15-11 8-4 12-6 3-7 L1 Atlanta 52 41 .559 1.5 1.5 29-14 23-27 26-20 16-7 3-6 7-8 6-4 L1 Philadelphia 48 45 .516 5.5 9.5 29-20 19-25 20-26 14-9 7-2 7-8 6-4 W2 Florida 45 45 .500 7.0 14.0 25-22 20-23 21-24 9-11 5-5 10-5 3-7 L2 New York 46 46 .500 7.0 14.0 27-20 19-26 25-22 12-12 4-2 5-10 5-5 W1

metirish Jul 18 2005 02:11 PM

That's great work, the Mets are 4-2 versus the West, lets improve on that this week

Benjamin Grimm Jul 18 2005 02:18 PM

Your new standings column makes a lot of sense. I wish I had thought of it!

Edgy DC Jul 21 2005 07:54 PM

Roy Oswalt shuts down the Nationals in Washington for eight innings, yielding only six hits and no walks. But the world being such as it is, Phil Garner turns the 3-0 lead over to Brad Lidge, who hangs on after giving up a 400-foot two-run homer to Preston Wilson. DC drops into a tie for first, after being alone up there since June 4. Since the last update, Florida has gained overall, but slipped into last. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK Washington 54 42 .563 - - 31-16 23-26 18-18 15-12 8-4 12-6 2-8 L2 Atlanta 54 42 .563 - - 29-14 25-28 26-20 16-7 5-7 7-8 5-5 W1 New York 49 46 .516 4.5 9.0 30-20 19-26 25-22 12-12 7-2 5-10 6-4 W4 Philadelphia 49 47 .510 5.0 10.5 30-22 19-25 20-26 14-9 8-4 7-8 6-4 L2 Florida 47 46 .505 5.5 12.5 25-22 22-24 21-24 9-11 7-6 10-5 3-7 W2

metirish Jul 21 2005 08:55 PM

Not a bad day for the NY NL team in the NL East, big thanks to the Dodgers and Astros, Mets are 7-2 V the West, love that.

Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 12:49 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 25 2005 01:07 PM

Easily overlookable in the Mets' recent good spate is that the Marlins have had a good weekend also, leaving every team in the division at least two games over .500. Obviously that's pretty unsustainable, but who is going to drop first? East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK Atlanta 55 44 .556 - - 29-14 26-30 26-20 16-7 6.9 7-8 5-5 L1 Washington 55 44 .556 - - 32-18 23-26 18-18 16-14 9-6 12-6 3.7 L1 Philadelphia 52 47 .525 3.0 6.0 33-22 19-25 20-26 14-9 11-4 7-8 7-3 W3 New York 51 47 .520 3.5 7.5 32-21 19-26 25-22 12-12 9-3 5-10 7-3 W2 Florida 49 47 .510 4.5 11.5 25-22 24-25 21-24 9-11 9-7 10-5 5-5 W2

ABG Jul 25 2005 01:01 PM

Aren't the Mets 6.5 NGB, not 7.5?

Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 01:03 PM

3.5 games behind Atlanta + 3.5 games behind Washington + 0.5 games behind Philadelphia = 7.5 games.

Centerfield Jul 25 2005 01:05 PM

I think you might have a typo regarding Washington's win total. Same as Atlanta, no?

Edgy DC Jul 25 2005 01:07 PM

Yup. Fixed.

Rotblatt Jul 25 2005 01:09 PM

Phillies should be 7 games back, then, right? Thanks for the chart, by the way! I dig it.

ABG Jul 25 2005 01:20 PM

Yeah, I just based my comment off of where I saw us relative to the Phils.

Edgy DC Aug 07 2005 06:16 AM

East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK Atlanta 64 47 .577 - - 35-15 29-32 29-20 22-10 6-9 7-8 7-3 W1 Washington 58 52 .527 5.5 5.5 34-21 24-31 19-23 16-14 11-9 12-6 3-7 L2 Philadelphia 58 53 .523 6.0 7.5 36-24 22-29 20-26 17-14 14-5 7-8 6-4 W1 Florida 56 52 .519 6.5 8.0 29-24 27-28 23-25 14-15 9-7 10-5 6-4 L1 New York 56 54 .509 7.5 12.0 35-23 21-31 25-22 16-17 10-5 5-10 5-5 W2

Edgy DC Aug 07 2005 01:11 PM

Pl. Wild Card W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Houston 59 51 .536 - - 36-15 23-36 13-13 23-21 16-9 7-8 6-4 L3 2 Washington 58 52 .527 1.0 1.0 34-21 24-31 19-23 16-14 11-9 12-6 3-7 L2 3 Philadelphia 58 53 .523 1.5 2.0 36-24 22-29 20-26 17-14 14-5 7-8 6-4 W1 4 Florida 56 52 .519 2.0 3.5 29-24 27-28 23-25 14-15 9-7 10-5 6-4 L1 5 New York 56 54 .509 3.0 7.5 35-23 21-31 25-22 16-17 10-5 5-10 5-5 W2 6 Milwaukee 55 56 .495 4.5 14.0 30-20 25-36 14-15 22-23 11-11 8-7 5-5 L1 7 Chicago 54 56 .491 5.0 18.0 27-26 27-30 9-18 25-19 14-10 6-9 3-7 L4 8 Arizona 53 59 .473 7.0 32.0 26-32 27-27 7-12 12-15 26-22 8-10 5-5 L2 9 Cincinnati 49 61 .445 10.0 56.0 33-28 16-33 12-13 16-28 14-12 7-8 7-3 W1 10 Los Angeles 49 61 .449 10.0 56.0 26-27 23-34 7-11 12-16 25-21 5-13 3-7 L1 11 San Francisco 48 61 .440 10.5 61.0 25-32 23-29 4-11 15-14 23-24 6-12 5-5 W3 12 Pittsburgh 47 64 .423 12.5 83.0 26-30 21-34 12-15 16-30 14-12 5-7 3-7 W1 13 Colorado 41 68 .376 17.5 143.0 27-27 14-41 9-10 11-23 15-26 6-9 5-5 W2

ABG Aug 07 2005 03:58 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it's doubtful the Rockies will make the playoffs.

Edgy DC Aug 07 2005 10:01 PM

Florida leapfrogs from fourth to second in both races. Pl. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 64 48 .571 - - 35-15 29-33 29-20 22-11 6-9 7-8 6-4 L1 T2 Florida 57 52 .523 5.5 5.5 29-24 28-28 23-25 15-15 9-7 10-5 6-4 W1 T2 Washington 58 53 .523 5.5 5.5 34-22 24-31 19-23 16-14 11-10 12-6 3-7 L3 4 Philadelphia 58 57 .518 6.0 7.0 36-25 22-29 20-26 17-15 14-5 7-8 6-4 L1 5 New York 57 54 .514 6.5 9.0 36-23 21-31 25-22 17-17 10-5 5-10 5-5 W3 Pl. Wild Card W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Houston 60 51 .541 - - 36-15 24-36 13-13 23-21 17-9 7-8 6-4 W1 T2 Florida 57 52 .523 2.0 2.0 29-24 28-28 23-25 15-15 9-7 10-5 6-4 W1 T2 Washington 58 53 .523 2.0 2.0 34-23 24-31 19-23 16-14 11-10 12-6 3-7 L3 4 Philadelphia 58 54 .518 2.5 3.5 36-25 22-29 20-26 17-14 14-5 7-8 6-4 L1 5 New York 57 54 .514 3.0 5.5 36-23 21-31 25-22 17-17 10-5 5-10 5-5 W3 6 Milwaukee 56 56 .500 4.5 12.5 30-20 26-36 15-15 22-23 11-11 8-7 6-4 W1 7 Chicago 54 57 .486 6.0 24.0 27-26 27-31 9-19 25-19 14-10 6-9 2-8 L5 8 Arizona 54 59 .478 7.0 29.0 27-32 27-27 7-12 12-15 27-22 8-10 5-5 W1 9 Los Angeles 60 61 .450 10.0 53.0 26-27 24-34 7-11 13-16 25-21 5-13 4-6 W1 10 Cincinnati 49 62 .441 11.0 62.0 33-29 16-33 12-14 16-28 14-12 7-8 6-4 L1 11 San Francisco 48 62 .436 11.5 67.0 25-33 23-29 4-11 15-15 23-24 6-12 5-5 L1 12 Pittsburgh 47 65 .420 13.5 89.0 26-31 21-34 12-15 16-30 14-13 5-7 3-7 L1 13 Colorado 41 69 .373 18.5 149.0 27-27 14-42 9-10 11-23 15-27 6-9 5-5 L1

Edgy DC Aug 08 2005 07:42 AM

Go ahead. Try not to picture those standings if the Met bullpen held on in those two Milwaukee games.

Rotblatt Aug 08 2005 12:26 PM

I was looking at our schedule, and in trying to decide what a decent but realistic run by us would look like, given our opponents, I came up with the following W-L record 30-21. That would mean we take 2 of 3 against every team we face EXCEPT the Braves (to whom we lose 2 of 3 each 3-game set), St. Louis (to whom we lose 3 of 4 in our 4-game set) & Colorado (where we win 3 of 4). Totally arbitrary, but also plausible, although I'd hope we'd at least split our series against the Braves. Having said that, we'll probably lose at least one series against a team I've said we'd win, so it's almost kinda sorta balanced. In a gut-check, WWSB kind of way, I think that's the best we can reasonably hope to do over the rest of the season. Unfortunately, that would only net us a .537 record overall, not enough to catch Houston, if they continue to play at their current rate. I find it fitting that, in my completely biased and unscientific projection, our ability to reach the post-season depends largely on how we play against Atlanta & St. Louis--our most likely opponents IN the postseason.

Elster88 Aug 08 2005 01:24 PM

I am usually the last person to acknowledge morale and chemistry as important parts of baseball. But this team is winning me over. Between the giggling on the bench and the way everyone jumps around (in a non-phony, non-Jeter way), to celebrate wins and good play (see recent Caption This thread) it looks like they're having fun. I think one of the reasons to believe this team has a chance is that they believe.

Frayed Knot Aug 08 2005 09:06 PM

Mets sit on their asses and catch the Marlins tonight as Fish get stomped twice by Rox.

Rotblatt Aug 09 2005 01:34 PM

BP's Hit List puts the Metsies at 10th overall in the majors: ]To the Victor Goes the Spoils: Mets win the battle of the Zambranos to wrap up a weekend sweep of the Cubs, halting a slide which saw them lose the previous three series. Jose Reyes is riding a 20-game hitting streak in which he's hit .374/.400/.462 while tacking on 11 steals. That mad dash has pushed his season's OBP all the way up to .303, 14 whole points above Rey Ordoñez's career mark. You can't spell Mets without Meh... well, close enough. That's good enough for #4 in the National League, but since Atlanta & Houston are ahead of us, it doesn't matter so much. Or does it? According to their Playoff Odds report (which I believe takes into account current standings, RA & RS as well as strength of remaining schedule), we have a 22.86% shot at the playoffs this year (9.28% shot a champions, 13.59 at wild car), behind Houston, who currently has a 46.50% shot. If we manage to pull into second place, our odds will likely increase pretty dramatically. None of the other contending NL Easters are given as much of a shot as us, based largely on the fact that we have the biggest difference between Adjusted RS & RA in the league at 54(compared to 52 for the Braves). The adjustment is done for strength of schedule, so what that means is that, according to BP, we've faced tougher opponents than the Braves. More specifically, the Braves' opponents have had average pitching and well below-average hitting, while we have faced average pitching and somewhat above-average hitting. The difference is great enough to give us a 46-run gain against them in our differentials. Anyway, my point is that stats are neat. And that if we continue to score and limit runs the way we have so far this season, we'll probably continue to gain ground in both the East and in the WC race.

Edgy DC Aug 11 2005 06:09 AM

Yawn. Another big game tonight. Third place in the division and in thie wildcard standings are both within reach. Every team in the division is 4-6, 5-5, or 6-4 over their last ten. Chicago, losing their last eight, looks like the first team to have blinked in the wildcard scramble.

Willets Point Aug 11 2005 09:52 AM

Where's Bret? All this winning is bringing out euphoric optomism. I need some cold, hard reality to balance things out.

Rotblatt Aug 15 2005 11:03 AM

So in order to get back to the pace I laid out for us, we have to sweep either Pittsburgh or Washington and take 2 of 3 from the other team. Then we have to figure out how to win on the road.

Elster88 Aug 15 2005 11:52 AM

Willets Point wrote: Where's Bret? All this winning is bringing out euphoric optomism. I need some cold, hard reality to balance things out. Didn't even need him, the Mets themselves provided reality. I'm in a bad mood. I hate days off after losses.

Edgy DC Aug 16 2005 09:46 PM

How did DC get back into second? And who'd've guessed we were as good as anyone in the division over the last ten? Pl. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 68 51 .571 - - 39-18 29-33 29-20 22-11 10-12 7-8 5-5 L1 2 Washington 63 55 .534 4.5 4.5 34-22 29-33 20-23 17-16 14-10 12-6 5-5 W4 3 Philadelphia 63 56 .529 5.0 5.5 36-26 27-30 20-27 17-15 19-6 7-8 6-4 L1 4 Florida 61 57 .517 6.5 10.0 33-27 28-30 23-25 15-15 13-12 10-5 5-5 L1 5 New York 60 58 .508 7.5 14.0 37-23 23-35 25-22 18-17 12-9 5-10 6-4 W1 Pl. Wild Card W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Houston 64 55 .538 - - 40-19 24-36 15-14 25-24 17-9 7-8 5-5 L1 2 Washington 63 55 .534 0.5 0.5 34-22 29-33 20-23 17-16 14-10 12-6 5-5 W4 3 Philadelphia 63 56 .529 1.0 1.5 36-26 27-30 20-27 17-15 19-6 7-8 6-4 L1 4 Florida 61 57 .517 2.5 6.0 33-27 28-30 23-25 15-15 13-12 10-5 5-5 L1 5 New York 60 58 .508 3.5 10.0 37-23 23-35 25-22 18-17 12-9 5-10 6-4 W1 6 Chicago 58 62 .483 6.5 25.0 30-30 28-32 9-19 29-24 14-10 6-9 4-6 W1 7 Milwaukee 57 62 .479 7.0 28.0 31-25 26-37 15-15 23-28 11-12 8-7 3.7 L1 8 Arizona 56 64 .467 8.5 38.5 27-32 29-32 9-16 12-16 27-22 8-10 4-6 L3 9 Los Angeles 54 64 .458 9.5 46.5 29-30 25-34 11-14 13-16 25-21 5-13 6-4 W2 10 Cincinnati 54 65 .454 10.0 51.0 33-31 21-34 12-14 21-29 14-14 7-8 6-4 L3 11 San Francisco 52 66 .441 11.5 70.5 25-33 27-33 6-15 17-15 23-24 6-12 5-5 W2 12 Pittsburgh 51 68 .429 13.0 82.5 26-31 25-37 12-16 18-31 16-14 5-7 5-5 L1 13 Colorado 45 74 .378 19.0 154.5 31-32 14-42 11-13 13-25 15-27 6-9 4-6 W1

Elster88 Aug 18 2005 08:26 AM

BUMP

Edgy DC Aug 18 2005 08:30 AM

Yeah, the plan is to update these after each series. But suffice to know that, in the last three days, the Mets have cut their net deficit off the wildcard to eight, and off the division lead to 13.

Elster88 Aug 18 2005 08:31 AM

My apologies. 2.5 seems much more exciting to me than 3.5, for some reason.

Frayed Knot Aug 19 2005 09:02 AM

Post-Season Odds - at least according to the folks at [u:694d8f2bc5]Baseball Prospectus[/u:694d8f2bc5] who "played" the remaining schedule 1 million times and tabulated the outcomes. [url]http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php[/url] NL WC Odds: Astros - 29.5% Phillies - 19.5% Marlins - 14.5% Mets - 11.0% Braves - 11.0% (they have a 78% chance of winning the division) Nationals - 9.0% Additionally, the Mets have a 4% chance of winning the division. StL missed the playoffs in ~ 528 of those 1,000,000 tries Current AL WC Odds: Indians - 28.0% (+ 4.9% of winning the division) Yanquis - 18.0% (+ 18.9%) A's - 15.0% (+ 16.0%) Angels - 12.1% (+ 12.1%)

Edgy DC Aug 19 2005 09:11 AM

A total shot then of 14.56%. for the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 19 2005 09:14 AM

So the Mets have a 15% chance of making the playoffs, and the Yankees have a 63% chance of missing. That means there's a little better than 9% chance that the Mets are in and the Yankees out. Interesting. I'll be curious to see how those numbers change in the next couple of weeks. Is this something they plan to update?

Frayed Knot Aug 19 2005 11:57 AM

I believe that site will update those numbers on at least a semi-regular basis.

Edgy DC Aug 20 2005 12:28 PM

I'm supposed to update every series, but it's more fun to do after a win. Florida, meanwhile has leapfrogged into second in both races. Chicago trying desperately to sneak back in. Watch 'em. Pl. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 69 53 .566 - - 40-20 29-33 29-20 22-11 11-14 7-8 5-5 L2 T2 Florida 64 57 .529 4.5 4.5 36-27 28-30 23-25 15-15 16-12 10-5 7-3 W3 T2 Philadelphia 65 58 .528 4.5 4.5 38-28 27-30 22-28 17-16 19-6 7-8 6-4 L2 4 Washington 64 58 .525 5.0 6.0 34-22 30-36 21-26 17-16 14-10 12-6 5-5 L1 5 New York 62 59 .512 6.5 12.0 39-24 23-35 26-22 19-18 12-9 5-10 5-5 W1 Pl. Wild Card W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Houston 65 57 .533 - - 41-21 24-36 15-14 26-26 17-9 7-8 5-5 W1 T2 Florida 64 57 .529 0.5 0.5 36-27 28-30 23-25 15-15 16-12 10-5 7-3 W3 T2 Philadelphia 65 58 .528 0.5 0.5 38-28 27-30 22-28 17-16 19-6 7-8 6-4 L2 4 Washington 64 58 .525 1.0 2.0 34-22 30-36 21-26 17-16 14-10 12-6 5-5 L1 5 New York 62 59 .512 2.5 5.0 39-24 23-35 26-22 19-18 12-9 5-10 5-5 W1 6 Chicago 60 62 .492 5.0 20.5 30-30 30-32 9-19 30-24 15-10 6-9 6-4 W3 7 Milwaukee 60 63 .488 5.5 23.5 31-25 29-38 15-15 24-29 13-12 8-7 4-6 L1 8 Arizona 57 66 .463 8.5 44.5 27-32 30-34 9-16 13-18 27-22 8-10 3-7 L1 9 Cincinnati 56 66 .459 9.0 48.0 35-32 21-34 12-14 21-29 16-15 7-8 6-4 W2 10 Los Angeles 55 66 .455 9.5 53.0 29-30 26-36 12-16 13-16 25-21 5-13 5-5 L1 11 San Francisco 53 68 .438 11.5 73.0 25-33 28.35 6-15 18-17 23-24 6-12 5-5 L2 12 Pittsburgh 53 69 .434 12.0 78.5 26-31 27-38 14-17 18-31 16-14 5-7 6-4 W2 13 Colorado 45 77 .369 20.0 174.5 31-33 14-42 11-13 13-26 15-27 6-9 2-8 L3

Elster88 Aug 20 2005 08:19 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I'm supposed to update every series, but it's more fun to do after a win. Oh sure. I go to the trouble of bumping a couple of days ago and get bitch slapped, and now you change your mind. j/k.

Valadius Aug 20 2005 09:53 PM

Atlanta, Florida, Houston, and Washington (thankfully) lose. Metsies and Phillies win. We're gaining ground, folks.

OlerudOwned Aug 20 2005 09:58 PM

Slowly but surely, now 2 games back. Though it would be nice to try to get a win by more than one run, I wont push my luck

Edgy DC Aug 20 2005 10:03 PM

Philadelphia is now your wildcard leader. Mets are two games back and five games back net behind four teams. I'm leaving town tomorry. I'll try and do one more update afore's I go. Anybody else willing to take over, be my guestical.

SI Metman Aug 20 2005 11:35 PM

It's a half game between each of the wild card teams from the Phils down to the Mets.

Valadius Aug 21 2005 08:16 AM

How bout them apples? Half-games through- it's certainly not unthinkable, but we gotta do some leapfrog.

Elster88 Aug 22 2005 10:53 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 22 2005 02:26 PM

>>>Anybody else willing to take over, be my guestical. Will do. I like charts. I'm being quite a thief here. Going to blue to show this is a pirated chart and not an original. Someone let me know if I screwed up the net games back feature. Only Atlanta and New York amongst the East teams have above .500 records against the East. PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 70 54 .565 - - 41-21 29-33 29-20 22-11 12-15 7-8 4-6 W1 2 Philadelphia 67 58 .536 3.5 3.5 40-28 27-30 22-28 19-16 19-6 7-8 7-3 W2 3 Florida 65 58 .528 4.5 5.5 37-28 28-30 23-25 15-15 17-13 10-5 6-4 W1 4 Washington 65 59 .524 5.0 7 34-22 31-37 22-27 17-16 14-10 12-6 6-4 W1 5 New York 63 60 .512 6.5 13 40-25 23-35 27-23 19-18 12-9 5-10 5-5 L1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 67 58 .536 - - 40-28 27-30 22-28 19-16 19-6 7-8 7-3 W2 2 Houston 66 58 .532 0.5 0.5 42-22 24-36 15-14 27-27 17-9 7-8 4-6 W1 3 Florida 65 58 .528 1.0 1.5 37-28 28-30 23-25 15-15 17-13 10-5 6-4 W1 4 Washington 65 59 .524 1.5 3 34-22 31-37 22-27 17-16 14-10 12-6 6-4 W1 5 New York 63 60 .512 3.0 9 40-25 23-35 27-23 19-18 12-9 5-10 5-5 L1 6 Milwaukee 61 64 .488 6.0 24 31-25 30-39 15-15 25-30 13-12 8-7 5-5 L1 7 Chicago 60 64 .484 6.5 27 30-30 30-34 9-19 30-24 15-12 6-9 6-4 L2 8 Arizona 58 67 .464 9.0 44.5 27-32 31-35 9-16 14-19 27-22 8-10 4-6 L1 9 Cincinnati 57 67 .460 9.5 48.5 36-33 21-34 12-14 21-29 17-16 7-8 5-5 W1 10 Los Angeles 56 67 .455 10.0 53 29-30 27-37 13-17 13-16 25-21 5-13 6-4 L1 11 San Francisco 54 69 .439 12.0 73 25-33 29-36 6-15 19-18 23-24 6-12 5-5 W1 12 Pittsburgh 53 71 .427 13.5 89.5 26-31 27-40 14-19 18-31 16-14 5-7 5-5 L2 13 Colorado 47 77 .379 19.5 161.5 33-35 14-42 11-13 15-28 15-27 6-9 3-7 W2

Valadius Aug 22 2005 11:08 AM

So basically we shot ourselves in the foot in interleague play, besides our much-maligned road woes. We're entering make-or-break time here, folks- either we take some damn road games, or we resign ourselves to another missed opportunity.

Elster88 Aug 22 2005 11:19 AM

Valadius wrote: So basically we shot ourselves in the foot in interleague play, besides our much-maligned road woes. Combine the two. 1-5 at Oakland and Seattle.

HahnSolo Aug 22 2005 02:00 PM

One thing that stands out from another team: The Houston road record is at Met-like levels, but I don't much hear the same commentary from the media that they can't play on the road. And I should know this, but why do the Nationals have 18 interleague games and the rest of the NL East only 15?

Nymr83 Aug 22 2005 02:15 PM

]One thing that stands out from another team: The Houston road record is at Met-like levels, but I don't much hear the same commentary from the media that they can't play on the road. Because they are winning. Wait until 2 of the NL East teams are ahead of them in the standings and we'll see if the media still isn't bashing their road record. Secondly, it's possible they have improved on the road in the 2nd half, they have certainly improved overall. The Mets on the other hand have had huge road meltdowns lately. And last, but certainly not least, a team playing in NYC will inevitably receive extra media attention and praise/criticism.

seawolf17 Aug 22 2005 02:19 PM

Nymr, I forgot to thank you... I'm honored to have been quoted in your sig.

Valadius Aug 22 2005 02:23 PM

There are 16 teams in the NL. There are 14 teams in the AL. While 14 NL teams play 14 AL teams, 2 NL teams face each other. I vaguely remember facing Philly during interleague play, and I'm assuming the other teams had an NL series with someone else.

Elster88 Aug 23 2005 06:41 AM

PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 71 54 .568 - - 41-21 30-33 29-20 23-11 12-15 7-8 5-5 W2 2 Florida 66 58 .532 4.5 4.5 38-28 28-30 23-25 15-15 18-13 10-5 7-3 W2 3 Philadelphia 67 59 .532 4.5 4.5 40-28 27-31 22-28 19-16 19-7 7-8 6-4 L1 4 Washington 65 59 .524 5.5 7.5 34-22 31-37 22-27 17-16 14-10 12-6 6-4 W1 5 New York 64 60 .516 6.5 11.5 40-25 24-35 27-23 19-18 13-9 5-10 6-4 W1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Houston 67 58 .536 - - 42-22 25-36 15-14 27-27 18-9 7-8 4-6 W2 2 Florida 66 58 .532 0.5 0.5 38-28 28-30 23-25 15-15 18-13 10-5 7-3 W2 3 Philadelphia 67 59 .532 0.5 0.5 40-28 27-31 22-28 19-16 19-7 7-8 6-4 L1 4 Washington 65 59 .524 1.5 3.5 34-22 31-37 22-27 17-16 14-10 12-6 6-4 W1 5 New York 64 60 .516 2.5 7.5 40-25 24-35 27-23 19-18 13-9 5-10 6-4 W1 6 Milwaukee 61 64 .488 6.0 25 31-25 30-39 15-15 25-30 13-12 8-7 5-5 L1 7 Chicago 60 65 .480 7.0 31 30-31 30-34 9-20 30-24 15-12 6-9 5-5 L3

Elster88 Aug 23 2005 06:46 AM

Wildcard L Houston 58 Florida 58 Philadelphia 59 Washington 59 New York 60

Elster88 Aug 24 2005 06:56 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 24 2005 06:57 AM

Tied Washington! PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 71 55 .563 - - 41-21 30-34 29-20 23-12 12-15 7-8 5-5 L1 2 Philadelphia 68 59 .535 3.5 3.5 40-28 28-31 22-28 19-16 20-7 7-8 6-4 W1 3 Florida 66 59 .528 4.5 5.5 38-28 28-31 23-25 15-16 18-13 10-5 7-3 L1 T-4 New York 65 60 .520 5.5 8.5 40-25 25-35 27-23 19-18 14-9 5-10 7-3 W2 T-4 Washington 65 60 .520 5.5 8.5 34-23 31-37 22-27 17-17 14-10 12-6 5-5 L1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 68 59 .535 - - 40-28 28-31 22-28 19-16 20-7 7-8 6-4 W1 2 Houston 67 59 .532 0.5 0.5 42-22 25-37 15-14 27-27 18-10 7-8 4-6 L1 3 Florida 66 59 .528 1.0 1.5 38-28 28-31 23-25 15-16 18-13 10-5 7-3 L1 T-4 New York 65 60 .520 2.0 4.5 40-25 25-35 27-23 19-18 14-9 5-10 7-3 W2 T-4 Washington 65 60 .520 2.0 4.5 34-23 31-37 22-27 17-17 14-10 12-6 5-5 L1 6 Milwaukee 62 64 .492 5.5 22 32-25 30-39 16-15 25-30 13-12 8-7 6-4 W1 7 Chicago 61 65 .484 6.5 28 31-31 30-34 10-20 30-24 15-12 6-9 5-5 W1

Elster88 Aug 24 2005 06:57 AM

One loss seperating the five teams. Wildcard L Philadelphia 59 Houston 59 Florida 59 New York 60 Washington 60

Elster88 Aug 25 2005 06:58 AM

PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 72 55 .567 - - 41-21 31-34 29-20 24-12 12-15 7-8 5-5 W1 2 Philadelphia 69 59 .539 3.5 3.5 40-28 29-31 22-28 19-16 21-7 7-8 6-4 W2 T-3 Florida 66 60 .524 5.5 7.5 38-28 28-32 23-25 15-17 18-13 10-5 6-4 L2 T-3 New York 66 60 .524 5.5 7.5 40-25 26-35 27-23 19-18 15-9 5-10 7-3 W3 T-3 Washington 66 60 .524 5.5 7.5 35-23 31-37 22-27 18-17 14-10 12-6 5-5 W1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 69 59 .539 - - 40-28 29-31 22-28 19-16 21-7 7-8 6-4 W2 2 Houston 67 60 .528 1.5 1.5 42-22 25-38 15-14 27-27 18-11 7-8 4-6 L2 T-3 Florida 66 60 .524 2.0 2.5 38-28 28-32 23-25 15-17 18-13 10-5 6-4 L2 T-3 New York 66 60 .524 2.0 2.5 40-25 26-35 27-23 19-18 15-9 5-10 7-3 W3 T-3 Washington 66 60 .524 2.0 2.5 35-23 31-37 22-27 18-17 14-10 12-6 5-5 W1 6 Milwaukee 63 64 .496 5.5 20 33-25 30-39 17-15 25-30 13-12 8-7 7-3 W2

Rotblatt Aug 25 2005 07:52 AM

Updated Playoff Odds Report from BP We move all the way to 33.13833%, better than every other team who's NOT leading their division. Cards at 99.98 Padres at 90.79 Braves at 86.39 Phillies at 30.59 Astros at 25.36 Marlins at 13.63 Nats at 8.36 Folks, what this tells me is that we don't need to keep being heroic, just play the way we've played all season (minus the first 5) and limit our mistakes. I REALLY hope that our boys come out patient tonight, like they did last night. Work the pitcher, work the count, stay in your game, and get us a win. We all know that whatever his stuff is like tonight, Petey's going to be a gamer, so let's not be overagressive, thinking we own the place . . . I hat late-night starts. This is going to be a long wait.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 25 2005 09:23 AM

These late-nite games are killing me too (I passed out of exhaustion in the 8th last night) but Thursday Gay Dames are especially tough on my work sked. I'm taking tommorry off, tho, and plan to be loaded up on caffeine, beer and maybe crack for 2-nite's game.

Centerfield Aug 25 2005 10:08 AM

I...plan to be loaded up on caffeine, beer and maybe crack for 2-nite's game. Cool. Say hi to Dwight...tell him some guys stopped by earlier looking for him.

duan Aug 25 2005 10:43 AM

The key is the Astros. We play interdivisional stuff virtually all september (except what might be a rather painful trip to St. Louis and the hosting of the Rockies for the final series. The Astros are the only team we can't help ourselves against. Lots a big games coming up.

Centerfield Aug 25 2005 10:58 AM

That three city road trip to St. Louis, Atlanta and Florida is going to be a doozy. Those ten games will make or break or season. Or not effect it very much at all.

metirish Aug 25 2005 11:02 AM

It's just great though to be playing August games that count, the last three have been horrible.

metirish Aug 25 2005 11:02 AM

It's just great though to be playing August games that count, the last three have been horrible.

Rockin' Doc Aug 25 2005 08:40 PM

metirish - "It's just great though to be playing August games that count, the last three have been horrible." I was rather fond of the last 3 games. A road sweep is always sweet. The last 3 seasons have definitely sucked. Dont mind me, I'm just trying to live up to the CPF's collective reputation as a bunch of smart ass, elitist, pricks.

Elster88 Aug 26 2005 07:04 AM

So, how does everyone feel this morning? PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 72 55 .567 - - 41-21 31-34 29-20 24-12 12-15 7-8 5-5 W1 2 Philadelphia 69 59 .539 3.5 3.5 40-28 29-31 22-28 19-16 21-7 7-8 6-4 W2 T-3 Florida 67 60 .528 5.0 6.5 38-28 29-32 23-25 16-17 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-3 New York 67 60 .528 5.0 6.5 40-25 27-35 27-23 19-18 16-9 5-10 8-2 W4 5 Washington 66 61 .520 6.0 10.5 35-24 31-37 22-27 18-18 14-10 12-6 4-6 L1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 69 59 .539 - - 40-28 29-31 22-28 19-16 21-7 7-8 6-4 W2 T-2 Florida 67 60 .528 1.5 1.5 38-28 29-32 23-25 16-17 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-2 Houston 67 60 .528 1.5 1.5 42-22 25-38 15-14 27-27 18-11 7-8 4-6 L2 T-2 New York 67 60 .528 1.5 1.5 40-25 27-35 27-23 19-18 16-9 5-10 8-2 W4 5 Washington 66 61 .520 2.5 5.5 35-24 31-37 22-27 18-18 14-10 12-6 4-6 L1 6 Milwaukee 63 65 .492 6.0 23 33-26 30-39 17-16 25-30 13-12 8-7 6-4 L1

Benjamin Grimm Aug 26 2005 07:07 AM

I feel like I'm being deluded into thinking that the Mets have a chance at the playoffs, even though they're now within 1.5 games of a spot, and have fewer teams to pass. I feel like it's all a scam to keep me spending money to see aged veterans on a team that, even if it gets to the playoffs, has no chance of winning. And even if it wins the World Series, has no chance of repeating for the next seven years.

seawolf17 Aug 26 2005 07:11 AM

I feel two things... One, I feel like you should have put the Mets in the second row, so it looked more impressive. Two, I feel like a dumbass, because I was just absent-mindedly scanning the columns in the wild card standings, and I saw that two teams had played WAY more games against the NL Central than anybody else, and I thought "Hey, that's strange." Until I looked to the left. Duh.

Rotblatt Aug 26 2005 07:35 AM

I feel suspicious. I mean, we're playing pretty good, fundamental baseball and aren't making too many mistakes right now, but I can't help but wonder when the bottom's going to drop out.

ABG Aug 26 2005 07:39 AM

Rotblatt wrote: I feel suspicious. I mean, we're playing pretty good, fundamental baseball and aren't making too many mistakes right now, but I can't help but wonder when the bottom's going to drop out. I'm not quiiiite at the point of no return with this team, but I'm rapidly approaching it. 2 outta 3 this weekend, and I'm sunk.

Elster88 Aug 26 2005 07:40 AM

seawolf17 wrote: One, I feel like you should have put the Mets in the second row, so it looked more impressive. Alpha-order for ties. They'll have to earn that second row by getting sole possession. Or by changing the team name to the Flushing Mets.

Rotblatt Aug 26 2005 09:27 AM

Updated Playoff Odds Report from BP With last night's victory & Houston's loss, we now have better odds to win the wild card than Houston does (24.71653% to 23.60552%)--which we did NOT yesterday, a fact which I omitted from my post. We have a 13.89794% shot to win our division as well, giving us a 38.61447 % shot at the playoffs now. According to the report, the Phillies are our toughest competitor (29.61984% at playoffs). 1. Cards: 99.99 2. Padres: 92.90 3. Braves: 85.83 4. Mets: 38.61 5. Phillies: 29.62 6. Astros: 23.73 7. Marlins: 15.02 8. Nats: 5.43 . . . 12. Giants: 0.90631 In that other league, the Yankees have a better shot at the division (31%) than they do the wild card (18%), based on the stength of the Indians (41% shot at WC). Despite their struggles, the Sox still have a 68% shot at the division. Oakland gets a 30.8% shot at their division and only a 10% shot at the WC. I can't remember if this was mentioned already, but BP gets these results by plugging the current record, RS & RA for every team in the league, then simulates the rest of the season a million times. Neat, huh?

Johnny Dickshot Aug 26 2005 10:20 AM

Even cooler is seeing the odds rise or fall by 10% or more after a single day. I forget what day it was where I was arguing with Sal on this but less than a week ago, the Met odds were 17% playoffs, <10% for the division IIRC.

Farmer Ted Aug 26 2005 12:57 PM Odds

Mental note...while in Vegas in January I put 20 bucks down on 8-1 odds for the Mets to win it all. I could be a lucky weiner.

Willets Point Aug 26 2005 01:09 PM

Odds don't mean shit. Only wins count.

Farmer Ted Aug 26 2005 01:14 PM

Odds are that you'll never get that photo from last year's Wrigley game if you can't swing me an email address.

Elster88 Aug 26 2005 11:25 PM

Every team in this post won, except the Braves. PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 72 56 .563 - - 41-21 31-35 29-20 24-13 12-15 7-8 4-6 L1 2 Philadelphia 70 59 .543 2.5 2.5 40-28 30-31 22-28 19-16 22-7 7-8 6-4 W3 3 Florida 68 60 .531 4.0 5.5 38-28 30-32 23-25 17-17 18-13 10-5 7-3 W2 4 New York 68 60 .531 4.0 5.5 40-25 28-35 27-23 19-18 17-9 5-10 8-2 W5 5 Washington 67 61 .523 5.0 9.5 36-24 31-37 22-27 19-18 14-10 12-6 4-6 W1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 70 59 .543 - - 40-28 30-31 22-28 19-16 22-7 7-8 6-4 W3 T-2 Florida 68 60 .531 1.5 1.5 38-28 30-32 23-25 17-17 18-13 10-5 7-3 W2 T-2 Houston 68 60 .531 1.5 1.5 42-22 26-38 15-14 27-27 19-11 7-8 5-5 W1 T-2 New York 68 60 .531 1.5 1.5 40-25 28-35 27-23 19-18 17-9 5-10 8-2 W5 5 Washington 67 61 .523 2.5 5.5 36-24 31-37 22-27 19-18 14-10 12-6 4-6 W1 6 Milwaukee 64 65 .496 6.0 23 34-26 30-39 18-16 25-30 13-12 8-7 7-3 W1

Edgy DC Aug 26 2005 11:43 PM

Great job in this thread. I hope these guys are going after Atlanta. All those division games in September are going to be brutal and bloody. Hearts will be breaking on the Eastern Seaboard every night.

Elster88 Aug 27 2005 10:51 AM

Winning the division would certainly be nice, but let's not forget playoffs is playoffs.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 27 2005 12:13 PM

One advantage of winning the division is, if the wild card also comes from the East, the Mets would get a first round against San Diego, with home field advantage.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 27 2005 12:45 PM

Our playoff odds increased by 1% -- we're now a 39% playoff team (22.4% WC + 16.8% division). The Nats, tho only 1 loss off the pace, have only a 7% playoff shot , BP sez. Astros 24.5% lead the WC probabilty.

Elster88 Aug 29 2005 06:29 AM

PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 74 56 .569 - - 41-21 33-35 29-20 26-13 12-15 7-8 5-5 W2 2 Philadelphia 70 61 .534 4.5 4.5 40-28 30-33 22-28 19-16 22-9 7-8 5-5 L2 3 Florida 69 61 .531 5.0 5.5 38-28 31-33 23-25 18-18 18-13 10-5 6-4 L1 4 New York 68 62 .523 6.0 8.5 40-25 28-37 27-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 L2 5 Washington 67 63 .515 7.0 12.5 36-26 31-37 22-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 L2 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Philadelphia 70 61 .534 - - 40-28 30-33 22-28 19-16 22-9 7-8 5-5 L2 2 Florida 69 61 .531 0.5 0.5 38-28 31-33 23-25 18-18 18-13 10-5 6-4 L1 T-3 Houston 68 62 .523 1.5 2.5 42-22 26-40 15-14 27-27 19-13 7-8 4-6 L2 T-3 New York 68 62 .523 1.5 2.5 40-25 28-37 27-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 L2 5 Washington 67 63 .515 2.5 6.5 36-26 31-37 22-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 L2 6 Milwaukee 64 67 .489 6.0 24 34-28 30-39 18-18 25-30 13-12 8-7 5-5 L2

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 08:18 AM

Find the standings as of end of day 8/29/05 here: [url]http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?t=1104[/url] _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 170) Barry Lyons

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:26 AM

My "net games back" era is drawing to a close.

Rotblatt Aug 30 2005 08:42 AM

We remain the odds-on favorite to reach the wild card, according to BP: 25.45862% versus 23.10408% for the Phillies. The Astros check in at 20.41308. According to their simulations, the average WC winner in the NL won 88 games in total. In order to reach that, we'll have to win 62.5% of our remaining games. So far this August, we've won 60% of our games.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 30 2005 09:01 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing what the odds will be on Friday morning, after the three games with the Phillies. They could be a lot better, or a lot worse. A three-game sweep from the Mets, and September could be a lot of fun.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 09:07 AM

The SBS is going to give you the beating of your life. I myself am not part of that organization, but I would be wary if I were you. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 170) Barry Lyons

Benjamin Grimm Aug 30 2005 09:11 AM

I have a thick orange hide.

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 09:16 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: A three-game sweep from the Mets, and September could be a lot of fun. I remember the Septembers of 1998, 1999, 2000. & 2001 when the Mets started the month flying high, but September ended up being unfun (well 99 & 00, all was well that ended well, but the Mets had divisional title hopes crashed in those years' Septembers).

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 09:18 AM

We're also not really flying high right now. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 170) Barry Lyons

Willets Point Aug 30 2005 10:11 AM

Well I was going on Yancy's theory of a possible three-game sweep of the Phillies leading us into September. I think that would mean the Mets have won 9 of their last 12 games which is a pretty good way to start the last month of a season but no guarantee that the last month will continue that success.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 10:25 AM

Wildcard L Philadelphia 61 Florida 62 Houston 62 New York 62 Washington 63 _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 170) Barry Lyons

Benjamin Grimm Aug 30 2005 11:07 AM

I've never understood the conventional wisdom that the loss column is more important than the win column. True, a loss is a game that you can't go back and win. But a win is a game that you can't go back and lose.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 11:11 AM

I look at it this way. If we're down one win, and tied in the loss column, we can win the game ourselves and be tied. If we have one extra loss, and are tied in the win column, the other team has to lose. The whole "controlling your own destiny" deal. _____________________________ This was the last post Elster88 made under the posting designation 170) Barry Lyons. Goodbye, Barry Hairline!

Benjamin Grimm Aug 30 2005 11:17 AM

That only matters if you're making up a rainout after the season ends. Really, it's not important who's in first place on August 30 or September 9. It only matters who's in first after everyone's played 162 games. All you have to do is win as many as possible. When it comes to seeing who's eliminated, and in figuring out magic numbers and the like, wins and losses count equally.

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 11:45 AM

I disagree, per the reasoning above. Obviously it gains more importance when you're making up that last game rainout then it does today. _____________________________ This post was made under the posting designation 169) Joe McEwing

Elster88 Aug 30 2005 08:34 PM Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Aug 30 2005 08:56 PM

Updating for the Houston game. PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 74 56 .569 - - 41-21 33-35 29-20 26-13 12-15 7-8 5-5 W2 T-2 Florida 70 62 .530 5 5 39-29 31-33 23-25 19-19 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-2 Philadelphia 70 62 .530 5 5 40-28 30-34 22-29 19-16 22-9 7-8 4-6 L3 4 New York 69 62 .527 5.5 6.5 41-25 28-37 28-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 W1 5 Washington 67 63 .515 7.0 12.5 36-26 31-37 22-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 L2 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK T-1 Florida 70 62 .530 - - 39-29 31-33 23-25 19-19 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-1 Philadelphia 70 62 .530 - - 40-28 30-34 22-29 19-16 22-9 7-8 5-5 L3 T-3 Houston 69 62 .527 0.5 1 43-22 26-40 15-14 28-27 19-13 7-8 4-6 W1 T-3 New York 69 62 .527 0.5 1 41-25 28-37 28-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 W1 5 Washington 67 63 .515 2.0 7 36-26 31-37 22-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 L2 Shower and bed time. Someone take care of this after Atlanta/Washington is done?

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 08:40 PM

A game. Off. The wildcard. Delgado was so wrong.

SI Metman Aug 30 2005 10:44 PM

tied in the loss column is the most important stat, especially since that extra game is against the Rockies (or Cardinals depending how you look at it).

Edgy DC Aug 30 2005 10:46 PM

All games present and accounted for. PL. East W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK 1 Atlanta 74 57 .569 - - 41-22 33-35 29-21 26-13 12-15 7-8 5-5 L1 T-2 Florida 70 62 .530 4.5 4.5 39-29 31-33 23-25 19-19 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-2 Philadelphia 70 62 .530 4.5 4.5 40-28 30-34 22-29 19-16 22-9 7-8 4-6 L3 4 New York 69 62 .527 5.5 6.0 41-25 28-37 28-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 W1 5 Washington 68 63 .519 6.0 10.0 36-26 31-37 22-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 W1 PL. Wildcard W L PCT GB NGB HOME ROAD EAST CENT WEST INTER L10 STRK T-1 Florida 70 62 .530 - - 39-29 31-33 23-25 19-19 18-13 10-5 6-4 W1 T-1 Philadelphia 70 62 .530 - - 40-28 30-34 22-29 19-16 22-9 7-8 5-5 L3 T-3 Houston 69 62 .527 0.5 1 43-22 26-40 15-14 28-27 19-13 7-8 4-6 W1 T-3 New York 69 62 .527 0.5 1 41-25 28-37 28-23 19-18 17-11 5-10 7-3 W1 5 Washington 68 63 .519 1.5 5 36-26 32-37 23-27 19-20 14-10 12-6 4-6 W1

Nymr83 Aug 30 2005 10:47 PM

Delgado was a fool. The only thing making the Marlins as good as the Mets right now IS Delgado. If Delgado had come here and Seo had stayed up all year (or Heilman had been left in, or anything else happened to get friggin Ishii gone sooner) the Mets would probably be 3 or 4 up in the wildcard race.

Rotblatt Aug 31 2005 08:33 AM

Playoff Odds Reports: Updated 8/30/05 from BP We gain a WC percentage point with our win over the Phillies, who drop almost 7%. The 'stros gain more, though, with an increase of over 3%. WC Mets: 24.45012 Astros: 23.89882 Phillies: 16.23574 In the race for the division, however, we gained a few points, checking in at 10.78635 versus 76.00180 for the Braves.

Vic Sage Aug 31 2005 08:38 AM

somebody tell Bret the Red Sox Fan that he is absolutely forbidden to enjoy a Mets WC race in september.

Willets Point Aug 31 2005 09:37 AM

Vic Sage wrote: somebody tell Bret the Red Sox Fan that he is absolutely forbidden to enjoy a Mets WC race in september. Why don't you tell him yourself if it's such a big deal to you?

Rotblatt Aug 31 2005 09:39 AM

Oh, and Delgado's a lying liar who lies. In my completely uninformed opinion, he went to Florida because he didn't want to share the spotlight with Beltran. The "better chance to win" thing was because he didn't want to sound like an egotistical fucktard. Phtooey on Delgado. He makes me hate the Marlins all over again, whom I had a soft spot for after they crushed the MFY in the World Series. And my hatred has extended beyond just Delgado too--Beckett is a punk with an inflated sense of self importance. I hope the Marlins wind up in the NL East cellar for the next four years, preventing a new stadium from happening, and that Delgado's contract becomes an albatross that prevents them from locking up Cabrera & Willis (who miraculously wind up on a team NOT the Yankees).

OlerudOwned Aug 31 2005 09:44 AM

Rotblatt wrote: I hope the Marlins wind up in the NL East cellar for the next four years, preventing a new stadium from happening, and that Delgado's contract becomes an albatross that prevents them from locking up Cabrera & Willis (who miraculously wind up on a team NOT the Yankees). One thing I learned from MVP Baseball. Miguel Cabrera looks great in a Met uniform

Vic Sage Aug 31 2005 09:47 AM

]Why don't you tell him yourself if it's such a big deal to you because i don't want to be a pompous prick, you pompous prick.

Elster88 Sep 01 2005 08:11 AM

Ugh. I'll post after the afternoon game. This post was made under the posting designation 167) Braden Looper

Rotblatt Sep 02 2005 07:47 AM

Time to take our medicine, fellow Mets fans. We drop to a 14.64839% shot at the WC & 4.84854% at the division. The Phillies move to 25.96533 for the WC & 11.09656 for the division, but the Astros are the real winners: 33.16950 for the WC. We've got some serious ground to cover before we're back in it, and frankly, I'm not sure we've got the goods. Replacing Cairo/Matsui with pretty much anyone would probably help, as would shaking up our batting order. Getting Mientkiewicz back should help, too, but I'm not sure if he'll get much playing time.

Edgy DC Sep 02 2005 07:49 AM

I don't like my medicine.

seawolf17 Sep 02 2005 08:03 AM

All we have to do is go 7-3 on this trip, and we're right back in this thing.

Elster88 Sep 08 2005 09:03 AM

I don't feel like posting the standings anymore. _____________________________ This post had the designation 161) Johnny Lewis