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Manny Acta Trivia

Edgy DC Oct 24 2006 03:20 PM

Manny Acta Trivia Question: Manny Acta, Mets third base coach, recently interviewed for the job managing the Giants. Without freaking checking, how many of the 2006 Giants is he actually younger than? Crazy stupid bonus question. Manny is alphabetically first among Met coaches, at least he is until Don Aase is retained.. How far can you name the Mets roster of coaches alphabetically? Again, please don't freaking check. On your freaking honor. Actually, both these questions are only partially related to Manuel Elias Acta.

HahnSolo Oct 24 2006 03:25 PM

Without freakin checking, I guess four on the first question Bonds, Alou, Vizquel, Finley. Then again, I don't even know how old Acta is, so for me this is probably an exercise in futility.

Edgy DC Oct 24 2006 03:28 PM

Four is... incorrect.

seawolf17 Oct 24 2006 05:52 PM

Coaches alphabetically... Acta Alomar Apodaca Baylor Benedict Berra Brantley? (Wasn't Mickey Brantley a coach? I could be wrong.) Cubbage Dromenhouser (Do bullpen catchers count?) Galante Gibson Harrelson I'm sure I missed some in there. There had to be an E.

cooby Oct 24 2006 09:17 PM

Now I know why everybody wanted to use UMDB Edit: Good gravy, he's ten years younger than I am. Now I really feel old when the coaches are younger

Johnny Dickshot Oct 24 2006 09:32 PM

Heffner Hemus Hiller Hornsby Hough

Elster88 Oct 24 2006 10:16 PM

Grote?

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 10:53 AM

Wow, I missed that this generated any interest. All apologies. Nobody guessed. But in 2006, seven Gigantes were older than Manny Acta: Jose Vizcaino, 38 Tim Worrell, 38 Moises Alou, 39 Omar Vizquel, 39 Barry Bonds, 41 Steve Finley, 41, and Jeff Fassero, 43 Mark Sweeney tried to be the eighth, but came in nine month's younger, a full gestation period. Seawolf took a plumb stab at the alphabetical coaches question Manny Acta 2005 - 2006, 2005 - 2006 Sandy Alomar 2005, 2006 Bob Apodaca 1996 - 1999 Don Baylor 2003 - 2004, 2004 Bruce Benedict 1997 - 1999 Yogi Berra 1965 - 1971 Mickey Brantley 1999 Tom Burgess 1977 Chris Chambliss 2002 Guy Conti 2005 - 2006 1) Acta Correct 2) Alomar Correct (The Mets actually are currently employing their top two alphabetical coaches) 3) Apodaca Correct 4) Baylor Correct 5) Benedict Holy crap! Correct 6) Berra Correctamunco 7) Brantley? (Wasn't Mickey Brantley a coach? I could be wrong.) No, you couldn't. Well you could, but you're not. Correct 8) Cubbage Incorrect 9) Dromenhouser (Do bullpen catchers count?) [Incorrect and no 10) Galante Incorrect Obviously, the other two are wrong as well, but a weepingly good showing. We're mising three guys between Brantley and Cubbage.

HahnSolo Oct 25 2006 11:03 AM

Edgy, after incorrectly guessing the first time, I looked up the Giants roster. I believe you're missing a certain relief pitcher who has a brief Metly past. And I think two of the "C" coaches are Chris Chambliss and Chuck Cottier.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 11:04 AM

Yup. I knew I had eight yesterday. Mike Stanton is the cat Solo refers to. Not that they all served at the same time, and perhaps less than half have a future from this point forward. But that's one third of a roster.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 11:07 AM

Chambliss is correct. We're looking for one before him and one after him.

Johnny Dickshot Oct 25 2006 12:19 PM

Getting them in precise alpha order is a little outrageous for a closed-book quiz. I kinda like the idea of continuing to riff until we get 'em all. Burgess Caravetta ... Herzog.. Johnson, Darrell Robinson, B. Robinson, S.

Gwreck Oct 25 2006 12:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 25 2006 12:25 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Getting them in precise alpha order is a little outrageous for a closed-book quiz. I kinda like the idea of continuing to riff until we get 'em all. Agreed. Burgess Caravetta Down ... Herzog.. Johnson, Darrell Nieto Robinson, B. Robinson, S. Rojas Pavlick Perlozzo Peterson Stottlemyre Wallace Wilson

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 12:24 PM

1977's Tom Burgess is correct. Be the first to share your memories of Tom Burgess UMDB doesn't give us no Phil Caravetta.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 25 2006 12:38 PM

Confirming Phil Cavaretta's coachness has been on my to-do list for a while. He wasn't listed among the Mets coaches in their press guide, but there are many who claim he was a coach. I don't know the exact years, however, so haven't entered them for him. I'll have to go through the yearbooks to find out when (and if) he was an actual coach. I think the timeframe would be around 1975.

cooby Oct 25 2006 12:42 PM

Burgess would be embarrassed to know my memory of him

metirish Oct 25 2006 12:45 PM

From Baseball Library.... ] Cavarretta was the Cubs' player-manager in 1951-53, and led the NL with 12 pinch hits in '51. Fired in spring training of 1954 because owner Phil Wrigley bridled at Cavarretta's prediction of a second-division finish, he finished his playing career with the White Sox. He managed extensively in the minors, coached and scouted for the Tigers, and became an excellent batting instructor for the Mets' organization. http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/C/Cavarretta_Phil.stm

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 12:54 PM

I seem to remember sending in Caravetta evidence to UMDB once before. I don't know if it was positive evidence that he was a coach or negative evidence, perhaps that he was merely a minor league coach/manager and spring training instructor.

Willets Point Oct 25 2006 01:10 PM

cooby wrote: Burgess would be embarrassed to know my memory of him Are we going to let this softball on a tee pass unoticed just because cooby is a woman of good reputation?

Nymr83 Oct 25 2006 01:12 PM

Willets Point wrote: ="cooby"]Burgess would be embarrassed to know my memory of him Are we going to let this softball on a tee pass unoticed just because cooby is a woman of good reputation? yes, that was the plan.

metirish Oct 25 2006 01:37 PM

Yancy I just got of the phone with a guy over at Mets media relations...he confirmed that Caravetta was the Mets hitting coach from 75 to 78.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 01:42 PM

metirish goes the extra mile and also takes an important first step in getting the forum some future media credentials.

metirish Oct 25 2006 01:45 PM

It took only two phone transfers to get to this fella...nice people ,he spent a few minutes going through records looking for the info.

RealityChuck Oct 25 2006 01:48 PM

Add Rube Walker and Eddy Yost to the end.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 25 2006 01:53 PM

metirish wrote: Yancy I just got of the phone with a guy over at Mets media relations...he confirmed that Caravetta was the Mets hitting coach from 75 to 78. Cool! You're the cat's pajamas! Thanks.

MFS62 Oct 25 2006 02:00 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Cool! You're the cat's pajamas! WOW! Didn't we once have a thread about words or phrases you don't hear much anymore? That is a definite candidate. LOL! Later

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 02:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 25 2006 02:04 PM

Call him back and ask+ him to send over a picture of Wayne Housie in a blue hat.

Yancy Street Gang Oct 25 2006 02:01 PM

Phil Cavaretta

cooby Oct 25 2006 02:11 PM

Ask him if he has any memories of poor Tom Burgess

Yancy Street Gang Oct 25 2006 02:21 PM

Poor Tom Burgess would be a good title for a folk song. It would be about an innocent man who gets hanged, or something like that.

cooby Oct 25 2006 02:25 PM

By the Molly Maguires! On a windy night under a harvest moon!

soupcan Oct 25 2006 02:28 PM

cooby wrote: Burgess would be embarrassed to know my memory of him cooby wrote: Ask him if he has any memories of poor Tom Burgess I think cooby's trying to tell us something! What is it cooby? Did Tom fall down the well? Which way girl? Show us...!

cooby Oct 25 2006 02:33 PM

Na-uh, I just feel bad that the poor guy has nobody to remember him. Timmy.

TheOldMole Oct 25 2006 07:18 PM

How good?

Willets Point Oct 25 2006 07:49 PM

Maybe one of us could post a fond rememberance about Tom Burgess and his love of egg salad.

cooby Oct 25 2006 08:33 PM

Is this him? Because it says Tim Burgess, which opens a whole new can of worms. Or egg salad. I googled him to see if I remembered him after all, but alas, no.

metirish Oct 25 2006 08:51 PM

I think that is him Cooby,here's what I found...this is him because it came with a bio...an older Tom... ] 44 years of professional baseball experience - as a player and a coach Former big league player with the St. Louis Cardinals(teammate of Stan Musial) Big League Manager with the New York Mets Hitting coordinator with the Kansas City Royals from 1987 to 1996. Worked with greats as George Brett and Jeff Conine Present coach with the Canadian National Team Inducted into the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame - 1992 Scout for the Seattle Mariners

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 09:55 PM

I'd say that's definitely the same guy. Mos' def'. But maybe they're both the wrong guy, because your source claims he managed the Mets. It'd be one big day in UMDB history if we confirmed that not only did Burgess coach for the team without us knowing, but he managed as well.

metirish Oct 25 2006 09:58 PM

Burgess is becoming intriqing....we need to invite him here.

SteveJRogers Oct 25 2006 10:17 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Confirming Phil Cavaretta's coachness has been on my to-do list for a while. He wasn't listed among the Mets coaches in their press guide, but there are many who claim he was a coach. I don't know the exact years, however, so haven't entered them for him. I'll have to go through the yearbooks to find out when (and if) he was an actual coach. I think the timeframe would be around 1975. Hmmm, I've seen him listed in those press guides in the Minor League staff though as the roving hitting guy. BTW, MTBN does have him in the All-Time Coaches & Managers wearing #50 from 75-77, as well as #44 in 1975 (must have been his uni as a Cub?) One of these days I'm going to post my year-by-year listing of all Met ML staffers, coaches, scouts, ect... Also I believe he did rate photographs in the Yearbook with the rest of the staff

SteveJRogers Oct 25 2006 10:26 PM

From my research, this is the Year-By-Year Mgrs and coaches of the 1970's culled by all editions of the Yearbooks and Media Guides of the day along with their assignment and Uniform # 1970 Gil Hodges Manager 14 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1971 Gil Hodges Manager 14 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1972 Yogi Berra Manager 8 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Sheriff Robinson 1B 55 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1973 Yogi Berra Manager 8 Roy McMillan 1B 51 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1974 Yogi Berra Manager 8 Willie Mays Bench 24 Roy McMillan 1B 51 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1975 Yogi Berra Manager 8 -8/6 Roy McMillan Interim Manager 8/6-EOY 51 Phil Cavaretta Bat 44 Willie Mays Bench 24 Roy McMillan 1B 51 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1976 Joe Fraizer Manager 55 Phil Cavaretta Bat 44 Willie Mays Bench 24 Roy McMillan 1B 51 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1977 Joe Fraizer Manager 55 Joe Torre Manager 5/31- (PM 5/31-6/18) 9 Tom Burgess 3B 53 Phil Cavaretta Bat 50 Willie Mays Bench 24 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Denny Sommers 1B 51 Rube Walker Pitch 54 1978 Joe Torre Manager 9 Phil Cavaretta Bat 50 Dal Maxvill 3B 53 Willie Mays Bench 24 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Denny Sommers 1B 51 Rube Walker Pitch 54 1979 Joe Torre Manager 9 Chuck Cottier 3B 11/20/78 53 Willie Mays Bench 24 Al Osmundsen BPC 60 Joe Pignatano Bull Pen 52 Dick Sisler Bat 51 Rube Walker Pitch 54

SteveJRogers Oct 25 2006 10:27 PM

A bit choppy in the early 1960's 1962 Casey Stengel Manager 37 Solly Hemus 52 Rogers Hornsby 53 Red Kress Cookie Lavagetto 51 Red Ruffing 54 1963 Casey Stengel Manager 37 Solly Hemus 52 Cookie Lavagetto 51 Clyde McCullough 54 Ernie White 53 1964 Casey Stengel Manager 37 Mel Hardner 53 Don Heffner 52 Sheriff Robinson Wes Westrum 51 1965 Casey Stengel Manager to 7/16 37 Wes Westrum Manager 7/16 51 Yogi Berra PC to 5/12 8 Don Heffner 52 Sheriff Robinson 53 Warren Sphan PC 21 Wes Westrum 51 1966 Wes Westrum Manager 9 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Harvey Haddix Pitch 52 Whitey Herzog 3B 54 Sheriff Robinson Bat 53 1967 Wes Westrum Manager 9 Salty Parker Interim 9/21-EOY 54 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Harvey Haddix Pitch 52 Johnny Murphy Salty Parker 54 Sheriff Robinson 53 1968 Gil Hodges Manager 14 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Joe Pignatano Bull Pen 10/12/67 52 Rube Walker Pitch 10/12/67 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53 1969 Gil Hodges Manager 14 Yogi Berra 1B 8 Joe Pignatano Bull Pen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 Eddie Yost 3B 53

SteveJRogers Oct 25 2006 10:29 PM

The 80's 1980 Joe Torre Manager 9 Chuck Cottier 3B 53 Willie Mays Bench 24 Al Osmundsen BPC 60 Joe Pignatano Bull Pen 52 Dick Sisler Bat 51 Rube Walker Pitch 54 1981 Joe Torre Manager 9 Chuck Cottier 3B 53 Bob Gibson Bench 10/23/80 45 Deron Johnson Bat 11/30/80 51 Joe Pignatano Bull Pen 52 Rube Walker Pitch 54 1982 George Bamberger Manager 10/20/81 31 Jim Frey Bat 11/10/81 51 Buddy Harrelson 1B 11/2/81 53 Frank Howard 3B 12/1/81 55 Bill Monbouguette Pitch 11/16/81 56 Rusty Staub PC 10 1983 George Bamberger Manager 31 Frank Howard Interim 6/3-EOY 55 Gene Dusan Bull Pen 11/11/82 56 Jim Frey Bat 51 Frank Howard 3B 55 Bobby Valentine 1B 11/5/82 53 1984 Davey Johnson Manager 10/13/83 5 Vern Hoscheit Bull Pen 11/9/83 51 Frank Howard 1B 55 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 11/5/83 48 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 10/27/83 26 Bobby Valentine 3B 22 1985 Davey Johnson Manager 5 Vern Hoscheit Bull Pen 51 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 28 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 Bobby Valentine 3B to 5/16 26 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 3/20/85 52 Buddy Harrelson 3B 5/17-EOY 23 1986 Davey Johnson Manager 5 Buddy Harrelson 3B 23 Vern Hoscheit Bull Pen 51 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 52 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 28 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 1987 Davey Johnson Manager 5 Buddy Harrelson INF 23 Vern Hoscheit Bull Pen 51 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 28 Sam Perlozzo 3B 12/17/86 34 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 1988 Davey Johnson Manager 5 Buddy Harrelson INF 23 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 1/11/88 52 Sam Perlozzo 3B 34 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 28 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 1989 Davey Johnson Manager 5 Buddy Harrelson INF 3 Bill Robinson 1B/Bat 28 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 52 Sam Perlozzo 3B 34 1990's 1990 Davey Johnson Manager to 5/29 5 Buddy Harrelson Manager 5/29-EOY 3 Mike Cubbage 1B/Bat 11/20/89 4 Doc Edwards Bench 11/20/89 32 Buddy Harrelson 3B 3 Chuck Hiller 3B 5/29-EOY 23 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 52 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 1991 Buddy Harrelson to 9/29 Manager 3 Mike Cubbage Interim Manager 9/29-EOY 4 Mike Cubbage 3B/Bat 4 Doc Edwards Bench 32 Greg Pavlick Bull Pen 52 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 Tom Spencer 1B 10/7/90 51 1992 Jeff Torborg Manager 10/12/91 10 Mike Cubbage 3B 4 Barry Foote Bench 11/4/91 26 Dave LaRoche Bull Pen 11/4/91 28 Tommy McCraw 1B/Bat 10/21/91 27 John Stephenson BPC 11/4/91 51 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 1993 Jeff Torborg Manager to 5/19 10 Dallas Green Manager 5/21-EOY 46 Mike Cubbage 3B 4 Barry Foote Bench to 5/19 26 Darrell Johnson Bench 5/21-EOY 15 Dave LaRoche Bull Pen to 5/19 28 Tommy McCraw 1B/Bat 27 John Stephenson BPC 32 Mel Stottlemyre Pitch 30 Bobby Wine Bench 5/22-EOY 7 1994 Dallas Green Manager 46 Mike Cubbage 3B 10 Frank Howard 1B 10/26/93 55 Tommy McCraw Bat 27 Greg Pavlick Pitch 10/26/93 52 Steve Swisher Bull Pen 10/26/93 8 Bobby Wine Bench 7 1995 Dallas Green Manager 46 Mike Cubbage 3B 4 Frank Howard 1B 55 Tommy McCraw Bat 10 Greg Pavlick Pitch 52 Steve Swisher Bull Pen 8 Bobby Wine Bench 7 1996 Dallas Green Manager to 8/26 46 Bobby Valentine Manager 8/26-EOY 2 Bob Apodaca Pitch 8/26-EOY 34 Mike Cubbage 3B 4 Frank Howard 1B to 8/28 55 Rafael Landestoy 8/26-EOY 56 Tommy McCraw Bat 27 Greg Pavlick Pitch to 8/26 52 Steve Swisher Bull Pen 8 Bobby Wine Bench to 8/26 7 1997 Bobby Valentine Manager 2 Bob Apodaca Pitch 34 Bruce Benedict Bench 10/17/96 20 Randy Niemann BP 10/17/96 45 Tom Robson Bat 10/17/36 53 Cookie Rojas 3B 10/17/96 4 Mookie Willson 1B 10/17/96 51 1998 Bobby Valentine Manager 2 Bob Apodaca Pitch 34 Bruce Benedict Bench 20 Randy Niemann BP 45 Tom Robson Bat 53 Cookie Rojas 3B 4 Mookie Willson 1B 1 1999 Bobby Valentine Manager 2 Bob Apodaca Pitch to 6/6 34 Bruce Benedict Bench 20 Mickey Brantley Bat 6/6-EOY 53 Al Jackson BP 6/6-EOY 54 Randy Niemann BP to 6/6 48 Tom Robson Bat to 6/6 53 Cookie Rojas 3B 8 Dave Wallace Pitch 6/6 52 Mookie Willson 1B 1 And the Aughts 2000 Bobby Valentine 2 Manager Al Jackson BP 54 Tom Robson Bat 11/23/99 53 Cookie Rojas 3B 8 John Stearns Bench 11/23/99 12 Dave Wallace Pitch 52 Mookie Willson 1B 1 2001 Bobby Valentine 2 Manager John Stearns Bench 12 Mookie Willson 1B 1 Dave Engle H 12/19/00 53 Bobby Floyd 1B 12/19/00 55 Charlie Hough P 12/19/00 54 Randy Niemann BP 12/19/00 52 2002 Bobby Valentine 2 Manager Mookie Willson 1B 1 Dave Engle H 51 Charlie Hough P 54 Randy Niemann BP 52 Matt Galante 3B 10/19/01 8 Juan Lopez C 1/30/02 60 Tom Robson B 10/19/01 57 Chris Chambliss H 51 2003 Art Howe 10/28/02 Manager 18 Matt Galante 3B 4 Juan Lopez C 50 Don Baylor B 11/26/02 25 Gary Pettis 1B 11/26/02 2 Vern Ruhle P 11/26/02 53 Rick Waits BP 11/26/02 54 Denny Walling H 11/26/02 15 Fran Pirozzolo C 57 Nelson Silverio BPC 1/23/03 58 Vinnie Valinotti BPC 2004 Art Howe Manager 18 Don Baylor Bench -6/16 H 6/16-10/13 52 Matt Galante Bench/INF -10/13 4 Denny Walling H -6/16 15 Rick Peterson P 51 Gary Pettis 1B/OF -10/13 2 Bobby Floyd 3B -10/13 53 Nelson Silverio BPC -10/13 54 2005 Willie Randolph Manager 12 11/4/2004- Rick Down H 54 11/26/04- Rick Peterson P 51 Jerry Manuel 1B/OF 53 11/23/04- Manny Acta 3B/INF 50 11/23/04- Sandy Alomar Sr. Bench 2 11/23/04- Guy Conti Bullpen 56 11/23/04- Tom Neito Catching 11/26/04- Dave Racaniello BPC 2006 Willie Randolph Manager 12 Rick Down H 54 Rick Peterson P 51 Jerry Manuel 1B/OF 53 Manny Acta 3B/INF 3 Sandy Alomar Sr. Bench 2 Guy Conti Bullpen 56 Tom Neito Catching 55 Dave Racaniello BPC

Zvon Oct 25 2006 10:40 PM

I saw this article yesterday about Acta, and Id like to share it or link it but now I cant find the thing. I saw it yesterday but it was first posted soon after the Lidle accident. Turned out that the afternoon of game one (which was rained out,ayk), Manny got a call from his landlord telling him the building he lived in was hit by a plane. At this point, no one knew who the pilot or passenger was, or whose plane it was, for that matter. Most talk was about the possibility of terrorists. The article was about how things unfolded as the afternoon progressed- finding out the plane was owned by Lidle,...and then that he was in it. It was a very sobering piece. Comparing how baseball is just a little game we play compared to the harsh reality of what occured that afternoon. Had some really interesting facts that I wasnt aware of. A Mets team doctor has offices right across the street from the building. Izzy Isringhausen lived there when he played for the Mets. Acta returned there shortly after the accident and promptly turned in his keys and moved out. Said he was planning to move out anyway. It was a very good article. Hope I find it, cuz this post does not do it justice.

Edgy DC Oct 25 2006 11:01 PM

You want to be a bullpen catcher for the Mets? Only polysyllabic Italian-Americans need apply.

Elster88 Oct 26 2006 01:57 AM

What the FUCK is wrong with you? Edit: Not you, Zvon. Nor you, Edgy.

SteveJRogers Oct 26 2006 07:08 AM

Would you have rathered me post 45 fucking posts in this thread or a couple of long fucking posts?

cooby Oct 26 2006 07:29 AM

1977 Joe Fraizer Manager 55 Joe Torre Manager 5/31- (PM 5/31-6/18) 9 Tom Burgess 3B 53 Phil Cavaretta Bat 50 Willie Mays Bench 24 Joe Pignatano Bullpen 52 Denny Sommers 1B 51 Rube Walker Pitch 54