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Edgy DC Oct 26 2006 02:48 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 26 2006 02:55 PM

Acting like... Sheffield.

metirish Oct 26 2006 02:49 PM

I wish I had a $13 million option to get pissed about...

smg58 Oct 26 2006 03:49 PM

I'm thinking that the $13M could get the Yankees more in free agency than Sheffield will in a trade. He's pushing 40, missed most of the regular season, and he didn't exactly light up the scoreboard in the playoffs. And that's before you consider any character issues. If people are beating the door down to get him, it's their loss.

metsmarathon Oct 26 2006 03:56 PM

what a whiny bitch. and dumb too. sheff can get a lot more money by taking hte 13M this year, and trying to get the two more years afterwards, than he likely could just by being a free agent this year.

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2006 03:59 PM

- Seems to me that is was just a year ago that Gary was bitching about the possibility of his option NOT being picked up. I'm surprised the Yanx are doing this; I guess they figure it's their best chip to land some pitching. - I can't see him getting more than $13mil on the open market either, although he could get more than a one-year deal (2 certainly, although 3 is doubtful). He turns 38 next month. - He's also been morphing towards defensive liability-ville in the last few years. Covers increasingly less ground in the OF and the 1B experiment didn't go well although, in fairness, it was a bit rushed.

86-Dreamer Oct 26 2006 04:17 PM

Gary Sheffield seems like a complete jerk. He has been a very easy guy to root against throughout his career. However, I can think of at least one high revenue team that could use a slugging righthanded leftfielder for a short-term financial commitment, so I am not surprised that the Yankees think they can get something for him in a trade. The limited duration of his deal makes him potentially very valuable to a team that thinks next year could be their year. But, oh boy, what a jerk that guy is.

seawolf17 Oct 26 2006 04:20 PM

86-Dreamer wrote: Gary Sheffield seems like a complete jerk. He has been a very easy guy to root against throughout his career. However, I can think of at least one high revenue team that could use a slugging righthanded leftfielder for a short-term financial commitment, so I am not surprised that the Yankees think they can get something for him in a trade. The limited duration of his deal makes him potentially very valuable to a team that thinks next year could be their year. But, oh boy, what a jerk that guy is. Dreamer, if you're insinuating what I think you're insinuating, NO.

86-Dreamer Oct 26 2006 04:35 PM

his baseball skills and contract are an exact match for the Mets' current situation. I don't think that Omar should GET SHEFFIELD NOW!!!, but think he should fully consider the possibility. I am glad it is not my decision because my personal disdain for his public persona would prevent me from making an objective assessment.

Edgy DC Oct 26 2006 04:36 PM

Nothing wrong with hiring people you respect.

86-Dreamer Oct 26 2006 04:44 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Nothing wrong with hiring people you respect. ? - this reply flew right over my head.

Edgy DC Oct 26 2006 04:46 PM

Read it in the negative. There's nothing wrong with not hiring people you don't respect. I have nothing against a team on principle steering clear of guys they consider to be dicks.

86-Dreamer Oct 26 2006 07:08 PM

Thanks for clarification. I absolutely agree that ownership is fully entitled to pass on players they do not respect and if the Wilpons rule it out, then fine with me. I guess that Randolph's opinion would mean a lot to them regarding Sheffield based on their time together with the MFYs. I have no idea what Randolph thinks of Sheffield. But, if he were to go to Omar on his own and say that he thinks he can manage him, and if Omar believes Sheffield will be productive, then I think Omar should explore if they can make a fair trade. Under no circumstance however do I think Omar should push Sheffield on Randolph unless Willie genuinely wanted him. I guess all I am saying is that I trust Omar and Willie's judgement, and hope they make their decisions based on their own knowledge instead of popular opinion.

Rockin' Doc Oct 26 2006 09:31 PM

Sheffield is being his usual whiny ass self. He and George deserve one another. I hope the Yankees do pick up his option for $13 M and then get stuck with him because no other team is willing to take on his salary for a plyer that has admitted to dogging it in the past when unhappy. Let the Yankees deal with their own clubhouse cancer.

metirish Oct 26 2006 09:34 PM

Sheffield is pissed,what's new,now he says he won't play first base and that any team that he gets traded to would have a tough time with him..what a bollox.

smg58 Oct 26 2006 10:15 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: - Seems to me that is was just a year ago that Gary was bitching about the possibility of his option NOT being picked up. I remember that too. If the Yankees can't get a better offer than Shawn Green, I'd consider returning their calls. But that's as far as I'd go, and I'm in no hurry to even go there.

metirish Oct 26 2006 10:17 PM

Yeaah ,he was pissed in Spring Training because his option was not picked up....

Frayed Knot Nov 09 2006 03:57 PM

Yanx officially picked up Sheff's option last night and Sheff predictably went off on just about everyone: Cashman (just a "middle man"), Torre, Abreu (he's not me), and even tacitly implicated Jeter for not sticking up for ARod. He also claims that Cashman and the other 'middle men' are keeping him away from Steinbrenner whom he feels could straighten the whole thing out if given the chance. No Gary, he doesn't want you either. I'm enjoying all this as both sides are getting what they deserve. The Yanx are getting a huge headache and he gets tougher to trade by the minute. And Sheff - who bragged about serving as his own agent when he & George made this deal (over the objections of some NYY front office personnel) - found out about the old adage about a lawyer representing himself having a fool for a client. The ink was barely dry on the deal before he started complaining that he was worth more and that too much money was deferred. heh, heh

vtmet Nov 09 2006 07:30 PM

Maybe instead of getting mad at the Yanks for picking up his option (which is totally within their contractual rights)...he should get mad at his dumbass agent that negotiated his contract and allowed his destiny to be controlled by the Yanks in an option...oh ya, that dumbass agent was Sheff...guess he should fire himself and complain about himself to the media while he's voicing his opinion on getting had by the Yanks...

Nymr83 Nov 10 2006 01:48 AM

they can have jose lima

silverdsl Nov 10 2006 09:46 AM

I don't know how I missed this thread earlier - I think Sheffield is a huge asshat and I'll be thrilled when the Yankees get rid of him. Of course I love how productive he can be at the plate, but his constant negativity about not being respected, the Yankees being disloyal, how he's not comfortable, and everything else he's bitched about has made me like him less and less as a person with each outburst. I like when a player is outspoken, but I think they need to a) be in touch with reality b) make some kind of sense and c) know when to put a cork in it, which Sheffield most certainly doesn't. Sheffield said that he's A-Rod's only sounding board in the clubhouse and that he'll be all alone without him. That might not be such a bad thing. I can't help but wonder what garbage Sheffield filled A-Rod (other player's) heads with, and if A-Rod's isolation from everyone else had something to do with Sheffield.

seawolf17 Nov 10 2006 10:36 AM

Is there anyone in baseball history who's been as much of a problem child as Sheffield? Seems like he's played for eighteen teams, and every team he's been on, he's been a headache. But his bat still earns him the big payday. Fascinating.

patona314 Nov 10 2006 10:40 AM

if the mets did get sheffield, he could exact his revenge on the dreaded yankees at the 07 subway series. boy would the local papers love that.

Edgy DC Nov 10 2006 10:42 AM

The likelihood of that doesn't make him worth one more penny though.

patona314 Nov 10 2006 10:48 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The likelihood of that doesn't make him worth one more penny though. was just a thought

Edgy DC Nov 10 2006 10:52 AM

No doubt. I'm just pointing out that sometimes thoughts like that get in a GM's head, and perhaps he proceeds with less caution than he ought..

Hillbilly Nov 10 2006 03:42 PM

Check out Gary. He's a Tiger. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/11/10/sheffield.tigers/index.html[url][/url]

metirish Nov 10 2006 03:43 PM

] BY KEN DAVIDOFF Newsday Staff Writer November 10, 2006, 3:47 PM EST The Yankees have traded Gary Sheffield to the Detroit Tigers for three minor-league pitchers. In return for Sheffield, who missed the bulk of the 2006 season with a left wrist injury, the Yankees received right-hander Humberto Sanchez, regarded as an elite pitching prospect, as well as Class A pitchers Anthony Claggett and Kevin Whelan. SI.com first reported the trade today. Last Sunday, the Yankees picked up their $13 million option on Sheffield for 2007, and Sheffield blasted the Yankees before and after that decision. The Tigers, in an interesting move, agreed to sign Sheffield through 2009, an investment that should placate Sheffield for the time being.

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2006 04:12 PM

]The Tigers agreed to sign Sheffield through 2009, an investment that should placate Sheffield for the time being. That's the interesting part. It also means that there was some discussion between the parties prior to the deal going down; IOW, while Sheff was bitching about it all.

Edgy DC Nov 10 2006 04:17 PM

To be honest, that three-year Yankee tenure of Sheffield's was less rocky than I expected. On edit: Look for J.D. Drew to take his place.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 10 2006 04:20 PM

I like how in davidoff's piece, which is simply re-writing Heyman's, he chose the word "elite" as a euphamism for Heyman's "highly-touted." I mean, looks like 3 young pitchers is a good haul for a cranky injured old steriod user, but Sanchez ain't that elite.

OlerudOwned Nov 10 2006 04:24 PM

Edgy DC wrote: To be honest, that three-year Yankee tenure of Sheffield's was less rocky than I expected. On edit: Look for J.D. Drew to take his place. I don't know about that, for some reason I get the feeling the Yankees will put their trust in a homegrown talent, Melky Cabrera. Just a hunch, really. He seemed pretty capable last season and would allow more money to be used in areas of greater concern.

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2006 04:27 PM

- Sheffield's usually not an on-field distraction. Torre reportedly liked him, as did Bobby Cox before him. He's more of a pain to front-office people as he starts whining about "disrespect". He was always one of those guys I'd listen to 10 minutes of one of his rants and have no idea what the fuck he was talking about. Lots of words, no sense whatsoever. - He should still be good for Detroit this year (how 'bout the fact that being sent to Detroit is no longer considered "banishment") but I'm not so sure I like him 3 years out. - Yanx already have a full OF: Matsui-Damon-Abreu; can't see them chasing after Drew

HahnSolo Nov 10 2006 04:27 PM

]Edgy DC wrote: To be honest, that three-year Yankee tenure of Sheffield's was less rocky than I expected. On edit: Look for J.D. Drew to take his place. I don't know about that, for some reason I get the feeling the Yankees will put their trust in a homegrown talent, Melky Cabrera. Just a hunch, really. He seemed pretty capable last season and would allow more money to be used in areas of greater concern. They don't really need to replace him. They got Abreu to replace him.

Edgy DC Nov 10 2006 04:31 PM

Of course, and the DH slot is more or less filled.

metirish Nov 10 2006 04:33 PM

Can Drew place first base?

metirish Nov 10 2006 05:01 PM

From Sweeny Murti on the FAN,deal was aggreed to on Tuesday,then a 72 hour window to work on an extension for Sheff.

metsmarathon Nov 10 2006 06:35 PM

that's a bit more that the yankees got than i expected....

smg58 Nov 10 2006 08:39 PM

I wonder what the market rate on Marcus Thames is at this point. He has 30-HR potential and might come very cheaply.

OlerudOwned Nov 10 2006 08:40 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2656847 Astoundingly reassuring words from Tigers' GM Dave Dombrowski, if you're a Detroit fan. ]"We gave up a lot," Dombrowski said. "I winced."

KC Nov 11 2006 12:21 PM

Seems to me the Tigers bent over for the Yanks on this one. Why do teams let them off the hook so easily? If I were an owner, I'd be doing everything in my power to make them regret signing players like Shef and then being stuck with him instead of taking a risky and hurt player and then giving them a bunch of prospects to boot (including one that is pretty highly regarded) and then giving that risky player a two year contract extension for big bucks?? I don't get it, maybe it's because it's the Yankees but it pisses me off.

Zvon Nov 11 2006 10:13 PM

The thing that stands out in my mind about this whole deal is after all of Sheffs threats towards the Skanks and any team that aquired him, all he had to say about the trade was: "I was ecstatic because I get reunited with the people that Ive always loved. They're business-minded. They're smart people. They're respectful people. They treat you like men. That's what you want to be around. To reunite with them after 10 years is a blessing." Cripes, the guys a case. He has baggage full of issues.