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Mota Suspended!

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2006 02:12 PM

50 games for violating the drug program (per WFAN) The penalty will be served at the start of the 2007 season. He is a FA

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 02:13 PM

Yeeee.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 02:14 PM

adios

duan Nov 01 2006 02:15 PM

so 'tipping his pitches' was the problem eh and not that he couldn't get the brand of juice?

metirish Nov 01 2006 02:19 PM

WOW...he's back to being a prick again in my book..

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 02:22 PM

<--- I know we can get a better Roger photo than this.

metirish Nov 01 2006 02:24 PM

How about a raging Roger?

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 02:27 PM

Omar Minaya: "Aaron Heilman, get off that block. Come here, boy. Haven't I always told you how much I love you? Love? Did I say 'love'? Why next to what I feel for you, love is crap! Have a cigar, boy. Say, you got a nice family, yessiree, boy, a nice family. God, I love Notre Dame. My mother is a devout Catholic, a saint really, and she wanted me to go there. But I wasn't smart enough. But you were. Yessirree, you sure were. And that's why I know you're going to understand what I'm saying to you..."

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2006 02:37 PM

Bradford's price (also a FA) just went up.

patona314 Nov 01 2006 02:38 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: adios that pretty much sums it up.

Nymr83 Nov 01 2006 02:49 PM

patona314 wrote: ="Johnny Dickshot"]adios that pretty much sums it up. doesn't this significantly lower his price? wouldn't you bring a guy like that in at league-minimum knowing you'd have him ready to go around June 1st?

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 02:52 PM

Not if I feel the guy has already compromised the team. Which he has.

Elster88 Nov 01 2006 02:56 PM

That's great news. Fuck him.

Willets Point Nov 01 2006 03:15 PM

Dude, he cheated AND he blew a game the Mets should've won in the NLCS.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 03:15 PM

A healthy Duaner Sanchez will replace Mota nicely.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 03:21 PM

Sheesh. Could you imagine the shame if he we won the pennant? Or the whole kahuna? Really, thank God the Mets lost, or the organization and the fans have to live with a tainted championship forever.

Elster88 Nov 01 2006 03:23 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Sheesh. Could you imagine the shame if he we won the pennant. Or the whole kahuna. Really, thank God the Mets lost, or the organization and the fans have to live with a tainted championship forever. You just broke my sarcasm-meter, but my silver lining from the loss really is that Mota wasn't on a Met WS Champ.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 03:27 PM

I could have lived with that.

Elster88 Nov 01 2006 03:29 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I could have lived with that. Me too. Hence the usage of silver lining.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 03:30 PM

I suppose a true test of whether we've actually turned into the Yankees is whether they decide to keep Mota and pretend he hadn't been cheating a la Sheffield and Giambi.

metirish Nov 01 2006 03:31 PM

When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 03:39 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2006 04:11 PM

A cute little 25-year-old chickie who knows exactly how cute she is and plays it for all it's worth was at a party with me last Saturday. On hearing from a third party that I was Mets-lovin', she put on a simulataneous ominous and sassy voice and said, "The Mets are pond scum." Folks stopped moving in the room, held their breath, bracing for my response. I enjoyed this season, and damned if I was going to ruin a perfectly good party by taking the low road. "Nah," I said. "They're perfectly good people. Who's your team?" "The Cardinals." "Wow! You just got yourself a world championship! Congratulations!" "Uh, thanks." "Must feel great!" "Yeah." "Well, enjoy it. It's OK to be a gracious winner. Championships don't come too often." The air came back into the room and I started a new conversation with someone else. Ms. Edgy told me later that the whole conversation, her boyfriend was looking at her (she was dressed as the Virgin Mary, by the way) like "Shee, why you gotta be such a monstrous bitch?" She added that if I played my cards right, boyfriend would have gone home with me. Instead, I hugged the silly Virgin Mary at the end of the night. The moral highground is a great thing to have. It would suck if Mota stole that. As it is, we would have won the division if he had never showed up, and I'm not ashamed of beating the Dodgers with him, because they spawned his doping ass, and he probably won more than a few games on the juice with him themselves.

ScarletKnight41 Nov 01 2006 03:42 PM

Elster88 Nov 01 2006 03:43 PM

That story just confused the hell out of me.

cooby Nov 01 2006 03:45 PM

Was the boyfriend dressed as Joseph? And why would you go home with him?

metirish Nov 01 2006 03:46 PM

Mota admits to it... ] ''I have no one to blame but myself,'' Mota said. ''I used extremely poor judgment and deserve to be held accountable.''

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 03:46 PM

metirish wrote: When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny. A proud moment for me, naming that tune in one guess.

cooby Nov 01 2006 03:47 PM

Elster88 wrote: That story just confused the hell out of me. This whole thread is starting to confuse me

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 03:48 PM

cooby wrote: Was the boyfriend dressed as Joseph? And why would you go home with him? Boyfriend was Gabriel. I wouldn't have. The point is I could have, because I made her disgusting unto him.

cooby Nov 01 2006 03:49 PM

Okay, now please explain why metirish said what he said about googling Abordick. (nice use of biblical talk there)

metirish Nov 01 2006 03:55 PM

Go back a page Cooby...

cooby Nov 01 2006 04:00 PM

I have...several times, but I'm just not spotting it :(

Valadius Nov 01 2006 04:03 PM

Goddammit. Must we have one reliever a year now doing steroids?

metirish Nov 01 2006 04:03 PM

Of course you don't get it..it's my fault..if you read the Sorino thread all will be revealed..I should have put my post in that thread...sorry Cooby

cooby Nov 01 2006 04:04 PM

That's okay, I didn't need all that hair anyway

Rotblatt Nov 01 2006 04:05 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I suppose a true test of whether we've actually turned into the Yankees is whether they decide to keep Mota and pretend he hadn't been cheating a la Sheffield and Giambi. And whether we give him a standing ovation every time he trots his pumped-up ass out to the mound (provided he's effective, of course). Boo. Get rid of him.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 04:09 PM

cooby wrote: Okay, now please explain why metirish said what he said about googling Abordick. (nice use of biblical talk there) Better would have been to describe her as an abomination unto him.

cooby Nov 01 2006 04:12 PM

Gabriel would never feel that way about Mary.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 04:15 PM

Was everyone dressed Bibically? Must have been weird seeing a bunch of characters from the Old and New Testaments tossing around terms like "pond scum."

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 04:15 PM

Yeah, but she wasn't really much of a Mary. She was an abomination of Mary. She incorporated Christmas Garland into her costume. What the heck is that about?

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 04:18 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Was everyone dressed Bibically? Must have been weird seeing a bunch of characters from the Old and New Testaments tossing around terms like "pond scum." Nah, there were two parties comibined. The first invitation asked for saint costumes, but few tried that. There were as many devils as angels. Nobody took advantage of the opportunity to portray a grizzly martyrdom.

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 04:20 PM

That's good. Was it St. Sebastian who's always gushing blood from arrow wounds?

cooby Nov 01 2006 04:23 PM

Tina Turner and Willona would have shook that party up

Gwreck Nov 01 2006 04:27 PM

Wow, this sucks. I used to be pleased that no Mets (at least at the ML level) had been caught cheating with performance-enhancing drugs.

metirish Nov 01 2006 04:29 PM

Mota just cost himself a bundle of money,millions?

metsmarathon Nov 01 2006 04:59 PM

metirish wrote: When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny. man... i must've missed that thread the first time around... and who was it, anways, that poster?

metsmarathon Nov 01 2006 05:00 PM

also, re: mota - i guess the 50 gamers aren't for innocent things like crack or meth, and that its definitely a cheaters' drug that he took?

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 05:11 PM

="RONALD BLUM of the Associated Press"] Guillermo Mota suspended 50 games By RONALD BLUM AP Baseball Writer © 2006 The Associated Press NEW YORK — Reliever Guillermo Mota was suspended for 50 games Wednesday, becoming the third player penalized this year for violating Major League Baseball's toughened drug policy. In announcing the suspension, the commissioner's office did not say why Mota was suspended. In announcing past suspensions, baseball said whether players had failed drug tests and whether they had tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs The 33-year-old pitcher was 4-3 with a 4.53 ERA this season with Cleveland and the New York Mets, who acquired him from the Indians on Aug. 20. Mota, who gave up a tying two-run triple to Scott Spiezio in the seventh inning of Game 2 of the NL championship series, filed for free agency Monday. His suspension will start at the beginning of next season. "I have no one to blame but myself," Mota said in a statement that did not explain how he ran afoul of baseball's drug rules. "I take full responsibility for my actions and accept MLB's suspension. I used extremely poor judgment and deserve to be held accountable." "To my teammates and the entire Mets organization, I am sorry. I truly regret what I did and hope that you can forgive me. To baseball fans everywhere, I understand that you are disappointed in me, and I don't blame you. I feel terrible and I promise this is the first and last time that this will happen. I am determined to prove to you that this was one mistake." Mota's agent, Adam Katz, said the pitcher intends to play next season. "He is anxious to get back to work," Katz said. "I believe he'll be a better person and a better player moving forward." Mota has 26-27 record with seven saves in eight major league seasons with the Montreal Expos, the Los Angeles Dodgers, Florida, Cleveland and the Mets. In 2005, an initial suspension under Major League Baseball's drug policy was for 10 days but players and owners, under congressional pressure, agreed last November to lengthen the penalties. Pitchers Yusaku Iriki and Jason Grimsley also were suspended for 50 games this year. Iriki tested positive for a performance-enhancing substance while on the Mets roster during spring training, and pitcher Jason Grimsley was penalized after authorities tracked a package containing human growth hormone to his home. Iriki pitched one game for Class A St. Lucie of the Florida State League, then went 4-8 with a 4.70 ERA in 16 starts and three relief appearances with Triple-A Norfolk of the International League. He filed conditionally for free agency on Monday. Grimsley already had been released by Arizona when he was suspended and does not appear to want to pitch in the major leagues again.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 05:12 PM

metsmarathon wrote: ="metirish"]When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny. man... i must've missed that thread the first time around... and who was it, anways, that poster? KC burst into that thread already on fire, sort of like Clifford Brown's solo in "I Get a Kick out of You" Just ... whap!

Yancy Street Gang Nov 01 2006 05:53 PM

A year later, I still don't see what the point of that thread was. And I'm surprised to see it labeled a "classic." Whatever. I notice that that LGM clown stopped just short of his 41st post.

Centerfield Nov 01 2006 06:37 PM

metsmarathon wrote: ="metirish"]When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny. man... i must've missed that thread the first time around... and who was it, anways, that poster? I'd like to know too.

OlerudOwned Nov 01 2006 07:01 PM

Were we ever told who the Indians wound up getting for Guillermo?

SteveJRogers Nov 01 2006 07:07 PM

Gwreck wrote: Wow, this sucks. I used to be pleased that no Mets (at least at the ML level) had been caught cheating with performance-enhancing drugs. Feliks Heredia, although he was on the DL for most of his time as a 2005 Met, and in the same exact way, potential FA early in the postseason

SteveJRogers Nov 01 2006 07:09 PM

Heredia actually had quite an eventual pre-suspension last year, and never got into an MLB game: From Baseball-Reference.com November 15, 2005: Granted Free Agency. February 10, 2006: Signed as a Free Agent with the Arizona Diamondbacks. March 24, 2006: Released by the Arizona Diamondbacks. March 28, 2006: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cleveland Indians. May 12, 2006: Released by the Cleveland Indians.

cleonjones11 Nov 02 2006 02:08 AM

Piazza must be having a good laugh.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 02 2006 03:27 AM

Is Mota the first guy to fully accept getting pinched and not blame it on poppy seeds, flax seed oil, or some hopped-up wheat grass smoothie?

Edgy DC Nov 02 2006 09:23 AM

metsmarathon wrote: ="metirish"]When I googled Welcome A-Bordick I got this as the first link... http://cybermessageboard.ehost.com/getalife/viewtopic.php?p=18794&sid=17bead61f93d92cd69aebf07321fb493 kinda funny. man... i must've missed that thread the first time around... and who was it, anways, that poster? C'mon, I nailed him at the end and so he disappeared. It was the poster from Northern Virginia who used a picture of himself with his big boat as an avatar. He loved the old place initially, but began to grow sour after I got into an exchange with the friend he brought on, who tried to push the idea that it was disastrous that the Mets got into the 2000 World Series.

silverdsl Nov 02 2006 09:35 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Is Mota the first guy to fully accept getting pinched and not blame it on poppy seeds, flax seed oil, or some hopped-up wheat grass smoothie? I'm not sure, but it's definitely surprising to see him admit to it considering how many excuses other players have come up with. I'm glad that there's at least one player who's not going to insult the intelligence of the fans by claiming they have no clue how the illegal substances got in their bodies. It's tough when a player associated with your team gets busted. However, I think that it's likely that every team has players who have in the past or still do use performance enhancers. So to me anything that the Mets have or might have done wouldn't be any more tainted than any other accomplishments of any other team, because they may all have players using stuff they shouldn't.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2006 09:48 AM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Is Mota the first guy to fully accept getting pinched and not blame it on poppy seeds, flax seed oil, or some hopped-up wheat grass smoothie? Matt Lawton fessed up after getting caught. And, of course, Jason Giambi apologized for ... well, somethin-er-other.

MFS62 Nov 02 2006 10:12 AM

Can anyone find and post what Mota said yesterday? Mike Greenberg (ESPN Radio) quoted it in its entirety this morning, then for comparison played tapes from Palmeiro, McGwire and Giambi when they admitted to nothing or denied everything. While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Later

Yancy Street Gang Nov 02 2006 10:14 AM

His quote appears in the article I pasted above.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2006 10:35 AM

I happen to have this database of favorite Michael Kay soundbites right here on my desktop.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 02 2006 10:51 AM

]Can anyone find and post what Mota said yesterday? Hmmm. Have you tried the Internet? Just let me boot up and I'll get it soon.

MFS62 Nov 02 2006 11:02 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: His quote appears in the article I pasted above. Aha! Missed it, Yancy. Thanks. Edgy, you might want to save this one, because it may be the only time Kay says anything positive about a Met player. It might become a collector's item some day. :) Later

Zvon Nov 02 2006 11:05 PM

Shame on you Mota! After much deliberation Ive decided to suspend your playoff baseball cards for 50 days, give or take a month or two.

old original jb Nov 02 2006 11:37 PM

After all that's happened in the past few years, how stupid does a guy have to be to decide that now is the time to use performance enhancing drugs?

Elster88 Nov 02 2006 11:43 PM

]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows. But then all 3 Mikes are idiots.

old original jb Nov 03 2006 10:16 AM

Elster88 wrote: ]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows. But then all 3 Mikes are idiots. Reminds me of one of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies--"Quiz Show". This is a New York congressman addressing (then) Professor Charles Van Doren who has just been lauded by an investigating committee for admitting that he participated in the rigging of a popular TV game show. (Would anyone even care if this happened today?) ]Mr Van Doren, I'm also from New York; a different part of New York. I'm happy that you've made the statement. But I cannot agree with most of my colleagues. See, I don't think an adult of your intelligence ought to be commended for simply, at long last, telling the truth.

metsmarathon Nov 03 2006 12:06 PM

Elster88 wrote: ]While Mike and Mike agreed that taking performance enhancing drugs should be punished, they lauded Mota for acting like a man, admitting it and apologizing for it. Also- Michael Kay has reportedly said that Mota is now his favorite player for the same reasons. Can someone please provide a link to that sound byte, too? Fucking ridiculous that a person is lauded for telling the truth...especially when it's something that everyone already knows. But then all 3 Mikes are idiots. i think it is possible that you can separate out the commission of a bad act from the admission to a bad act, and applaud the latter while still disparage the former. also, i think that mike and mike' stance is overblown in the above quote. they did amply caveat their applause by stating that it was relative to the actions of others who so easily shrugged off the hat of responsibility. if you're gonna do something wrong, at least wear the hat of responsibility. taking responsibility for your bad actions is worthy of commendation. not as much as if you don't do bad things, but certainly moreso than if you don't take responsibility for those bad actions. and i think that is where mike & mike were going. michael kay, i have no idea. didnt hear it...

Elster88 Nov 03 2006 06:10 PM

metsmarathon wrote: taking responsibility for your bad actions is worthy of commendation. The phrase "taking responsibility" is by far one of the most ill-used phrases in thew world. Mota didn't really take responsibility for anything. Saying "I admit what I did was wrong" after being caught out means nothing. He didn't take responsibility, it was already on him. The phrase taking responsibility is meant more for someone who steps up and takes the blame when he didn't have to. As in, if a committee of people is blamed for something, and the most/only guilty party shoulders more/all of the blame when it could've been spread around. That's taking responsibility. Or if somebody gets hurt through some accident that was a result of your short-sightedness...where you can get away without anyone knowing...and you step forward and pay his bills or drive him to the hospital or whatever. That's taking responsbility. When you are known to be at fault, you can't "take responsibility." You're already responsible. What Mota did is not taking responsibilty. It's stating something we already knew by virtue of the test he failed. Edit: To clarify, I'm not going to condemn him any MORE for saying "I knowingly took illegal substances and did something stupid." But it doesn't remove one iota of blame/fault that I place on him.

Nymr83 Nov 03 2006 06:31 PM

well it does make him better than someone who claims not to have done anything wrong (Rose for example)

Rockin' Doc Nov 03 2006 10:01 PM

Freakin' cheatin' loser. At least admitted to being a cheatin' loser. Cut his ass loose. I had a hard time cheering for that glove throwin', chicken shit anyway.