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MFS62 Nov 03 2006 10:24 AM

One list of Mets Free Agents I found included the following names: Cliff Floyd Orlando Hernandez Ricky Ledee Steve Trachsel Michael Tucker* Jose Valentin* Chris Woodward* * = have formally filed to become free agents. And we've read that Tom Glavine has a mutual option in his contract, with negotiations reportedly underway to bring him back. Which ones would you want back? Which ones do you think Omar will try to re-sign? Later

Yancy Street Gang Nov 03 2006 10:29 AM

You're missing Bradford. I read today that Omar wants to talk contracts with Hernandez and Bradford, in addition to Glavine and Wille Randolph.

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 10:34 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: You're missing Bradford. I read today that Omar wants to talk contracts with Hernandez and Bradford, in addition to Glavine and Wille Randolph. I saw that Bradford, and Oliver had filed, but they weren't on that list (which I found through a link on the official MLB players website). I also think that Feliciano, Zambrano and Parra (once activated from the 60 day DL) are also eligible. They can be added to the conversation. Hernandez, Oliver, Bradford and Feliciano are the only ones I'd be interested in keeping. Later

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2006 10:41 AM

]I also think that Feliciano, Zambrano and Parra (once activated from the 60 day DL) are also eligible. Nope, none of them are 6-year players. Now the Mets could (probably will in the case of Zambrano & Parra) cut any or all of them loose thus making them FAs, but none are in position to declare themselves to be one on their own.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2006 10:43 AM

By "Parra," do we mean "Padilla"?

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 10:52 AM

Edgy DC wrote: By "Parra," do we mean "Padilla"? Yes. So, how do you answer the questions? And who is this "we" of whom you spoke? Later

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2006 02:48 PM

BTW, Met FA classifications: [u:694c5d99b9]Type A[/u:694c5d99b9] FAs Chad Bradford Cliff Floyd Tom Glavine (option) Roberto Hernandez [u:694c5d99b9]Type B[/u:694c5d99b9] Guillermo Mota Orlando Hernandez Darren Oliver Jose Valentin - [u:694c5d99b9]Type A free agents[/u:694c5d99b9] yield the signing team's first-round pick (provided it's not in the upper half of the first round) plus a supplemental first-rounder. - [u:694c5d99b9]Type B[/u:694c5d99b9] compensation, previously the signing team's first-round pick (with the same upper-first-round protection), is now just a supplemental first-round choice; as per the new CBA. The losing team still needs to offer arbitration to receive compensation for a departing FA.

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 08:45 PM

="Frayed Knot"] ]I also think that Feliciano, Zambrano and Parra (once activated from the 60 day DL) are also eligible. Nope, none of them are 6-year players. Now the Mets could (probably will in the case of Zambrano & Parra) cut any or all of them loose thus making them FAs, but none are in position to declare themselves to be one on their own. I think Feliciano may be a different case. Here are his transactions prior to being signed again by the Mets this year: December 16, 2002: Released by the Detroit Tigers. April 3, 2003: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Mets. December 20, 2003: Granted Free Agency. December 21, 2003: Signed as a Free Agent with the New York Mets. January 24, 2005: Purchased by the Fukuoka Daiei Hawks (Japan Pacific) from the New York Mets. I believe his having been released and having been a free agent before, and the fact that the Mets signed him for a one-year contract this year means they no longer have an option on his services, unless one was specifically put into this contract. The 6 year rule has nothing to do with his situation. But you may be right on the others. Later Later

metirish Nov 03 2006 08:50 PM

I've noticed lately that you put Later in your posts twice,why so?...

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 09:08 PM

Sometimes I post something, think I'm done, then go look for additional stuff elsewhere (like the Feliciano transactions). I find it, come back to the original thread and don't notice I'd already put "Later" in there. So I do it again. Either that, or senility is really kicking in. Thanks for noticing. Uh,.... Later

Nymr83 Nov 03 2006 09:11 PM

you could just put "Later" as the top line of your signature

metirish Nov 03 2006 09:11 PM

] Either that, or senility is really kicking in Um,yeah that's what I was thinking.... Earlier.

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 09:20 PM

Nymr83 wrote: you could just put "Later" as the top line of your signature Nope. I've explained before that "later" means to me that I really hope to see/ talk to you again at some future time. To make it automatic would defeat the purpose of being friendly. Later

Nymr83 Nov 03 2006 09:21 PM

you could be automatically friendly

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2006 11:11 PM

]and the fact that the Mets signed him for a one-year contract this year means they no longer have an option on his services, unless one was specifically put into this contract. The 6 year rule has nothing to do with his situation. Sure it does. Players get released all the time, sometimes when they're young and in their early years, sometimes before they even reach the majors. But just because he may have been a FA at one point (or more than one) on account of being cut loose by a team doesn't negate the fact that 6 full seasons are needed before he can declare himself a FA. The Mets control his rights for next year unless they choose otherwise. Probably is arbitration eligible. ]you could just put "Later" as the top line of your signature Can't do that. That's where "Earlier" goes.

smg58 Nov 04 2006 11:59 AM

I'm glad to see Feliciano is still under control. It's one less thing to worry about. You can't take a good pen for granted and think you can afford to let a few guys go; ask this year's Indians how that worked. What about Roberto Hernandez?

Elster88 Nov 04 2006 01:56 PM

Willie deserves his cake.