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HahnSolo Nov 01 2006 02:34 PM

REM and Van Halen lead the latest nominees for the Rock and Roll hall of Fame. Not sure all of the qualifications to be in the R&R HOF, but really, Chic and the Dave Clark Five? (AP Story) Rock and Roll Hall of Fame eyes R.E.M., Van Halen NEW YORK - Van Halen is trying to make their biggest "jump" yet -- into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, with potential 2007 classmates such as R.E.M., Chic, and Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five. All are among the nine nominees for enshrinement in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland. A panel of 500 industry experts will select five to be inducted March 12. To be eligible, artists must have issued a first single or album at least 25 years before nomination. Van Halen and R.E.M. came from opposite sides of the 1980s rock 'n' roll spectrum. Led by cartoonish frontman David Lee Roth and fleet-fingered guitarist Eddie Van Halen, the California quartet was a hard rock favorite with songs such as "Jump" and "Hot for Teacher." R.E.M., meanwhile, was the quintessential indie rock band until breaking through to mass success in the early 1990s. Grandmaster Flash led the most innovative act in early hip-hop. Chic, a funk group led by Bernard Edwards and Nile Rodgers, were one of the few acts to dominate the disco era and emerge with their reputation intact through songs such as the wedding band favorite "Good Times." Other nominees include Patti Smith, the punk rock poet who recently presided over the closing of New York's legendary CBGB nightclub; British invader the Dave Clark Five; Phil Spector favorites the Ronettes; soul singer Joe Tex; and the Stooges, early home of Iggy Pop.

cooby Nov 01 2006 02:36 PM

Dave Clark Five was a pretty cool group.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 02:45 PM

Amazing that most of the also-mentions in the last paragraph seem to have more qualifications than many of the nominees who got a paragraph write-up. Although I'm not so sure that Patti Smith should be nominated without the Patti Smith Group.

RealityChuck Nov 01 2006 02:45 PM

Dave Clark Five are worth nominating. Chic is an abysmal choice, though -- there are many more worthy.

sharpie Nov 01 2006 03:28 PM

I guess Chic would represent alla those other disco groups. If I had a vote I'd vote in Patti Smith (the worst oversight in the Hall), REM and Grandmaster Flash & the Furious 5. Iggy should go in independent of the Stooges. The rest don't get my vote.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 03:49 PM

When are they gonna nominate Sadaharu Oh? Wait, wrong HoF.

sharpie Nov 01 2006 05:05 PM

Chic is a better choice than Joe Tex, if only for "Everybody Dance."

RealityChuck Nov 01 2006 10:16 PM

Well, it's not as bad a choice as the legendary 1978 Grammy "Best New Artist" competition. The nominees were: Elvis Costello -- clearly even then a major artist, though probably too radical for the Grammy voters at the time. The Cars -- A first-class group with a smash debut Toto -- more middle of the road, but talented and popular Chris Rea -- Solo artist/folkie who's had a fairly successful career. A Taste of Honey -- third-rate disco group that was clearly a one-hit wonder and would never be hear of in another six months. And winner was . . . The third-rate disco group!

cooby Nov 01 2006 10:24 PM

Ew! (I would have thought sharpie was old enough to appreciate Dave Clark Five)

Edgy DC Nov 01 2006 10:31 PM

Show me a man that's got a good woman I'll show you a man that goes to work hummin'

Johnny Dickshot Nov 01 2006 11:05 PM

I remember those Grammys. A Taste of Honey of course could go back and blame their lack of progress on the bogus "Best New Artist Curse," a device that both excused badness and let judges off the hook for making awful choices. I think we should overthrow the Grammy organization and implement a worldwide band ladder challenge.

MFS62 Nov 02 2006 09:52 AM

Ronnie Spector, the lead singer with the Ronettes, was married to producer Phil Spector, later divorced him. She now lives in Brookfield, Connecticut, where my wife taught her (their) kids in second grade. Later

Edgy DC Nov 03 2006 01:14 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2006 04:18 PM

Meanwhile, Van Halen, reduced to only the two Van Halen brothers left in the band, have replaced longtime bassist Michael Anthony with Eddie's 15-year-old son Wolfgang. They are still without a singer, but rumors of a David Lee Roth return persist. Of late, Eddie has (1) been mostly outside the public eye, (2) usually been a drunken mess when in the public eye, (3) been smoking onstage despite battling oral cancer, (4) confessed that he has used unspecified "illegal" means to fight the cancer, and (5) despite being a drunken mess at Dimebag Darrell's funeral, donated his black and yellow guitar from the "VH II" album cover to be buried with Dimebag, which it was. Quite a soap opera for a guitar genius/muppet.

Willets Point Nov 03 2006 01:16 PM

MFS62 wrote: Ronnie Spector, the lead singer with the Ronettes, was married to producer Phil Spector, later divorced him. She now lives in Brookfield, Connecticut, where my wife taught her (their) kids in second grade. Later Did they have big hair and act kind of wacky?

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 01:26 PM

My wife said the kids are kinda' average. And Ronnie has settled into the role of mom quite well. She shows up at PTA meetings, teacher-parent conferences and school activities. (She added "Sometimes with a little too much makeup and slightly overdressed".) Later

sharpie Nov 03 2006 01:27 PM

](I would have thought sharpie was old enough to appreciate Dave Clark Five) They never really did it for me (although "Having a Wild Weekend" is a pretty good movie). For the early years of the British Invasion they were better than Herman's Hermits or Gerry & the Pacemakers but not as good as The Animals or the Kinks. I wouldn't cry foul if they made it in, but I don't think they're quite good enough.

cooby Nov 03 2006 01:49 PM

I probably wouldn't remember them at all, except that I have a sister that is 7 years older than I am, and she was just about 12 or 13 when all those groups turned up, so I got to hear them all. We even went to see Herman's Hermits at the Steele Pier once, though I couldn't see them. Dino, Desi and Billy were there too. I'll but not too many people here remember them!

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2006 01:51 PM

]I think we should overthrow the Grammy organization and implement a worldwide band ladder challenge. When I was a kid first getting into music, I hated the Grammys for ignoring Rock-n-Roll. Then, once they started including Rock and I saw the choices they were making, I wanted them to go back to ignoring it again.

MFS62 Nov 03 2006 01:53 PM

cooby wrote: Dino, Desi and Billy were there too. I'll but not too many people here remember them! I remember them , but if you held a gun to my head I couldn't name one of their songs. Later

cooby Nov 03 2006 01:57 PM

I'm not sure they actually sang. I think they just stood there while girls screamed at them This album indicates that perhaps they were a cover band

Edgy DC Nov 03 2006 02:03 PM

Dino and Desi were Dean Martin, Jr. and Desi Arnaz, Jr.

MFS62 Nov 04 2006 11:45 AM

And IIRC Rickey was the son of either Rickey Nelson or Rickey's brother (They were sons of Ozzie and Harriet Nelson from the old days of TV). Later