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Don Carman
metirish Dec 04 2006 09:08 AM |
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Cool article.
http://www.slate.com/id/2154698/?nav=tap3
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Johnny Dickshot Dec 04 2006 09:14 AM |
Wow. That's awesome.
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metirish Dec 04 2006 09:29 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 04 2006 09:58 AM |
Yeah,Carman seems like a really great person,I love his list that he posted for the writers...classic.
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Edgy DC Dec 04 2006 09:47 AM |
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I hated the cynical opening. I'll admit that I liked Carman when he played.
Wow. I guess that includes the scorched psyche of Rick Ankiel.
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seawolf17 Dec 04 2006 09:53 AM |
That's a great story! When I was a kid, I thumbed through the Baseball Encyclopedie (ah, the days before the Internet) and found all the players with whom I shared a birthday. I wrote to all the active guys, but the only guy who sent me anything back was Nick Capra:
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Johnny Dickshot Dec 04 2006 10:31 AM |
When I was in 3rd or 4th grade I wrote all the teams asking for stuff. I never got a personal response but lots of stickers and photos (some signed, some not) I put into a looseleaf notbook.
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Edgy DC Dec 04 2006 10:35 AM |
Enos Cabell isn't odd. He was in Bad News Bears in Breaking Training.
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SteveJRogers Dec 04 2006 05:32 PM |
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Same year, I want to say Paul Assenmacher's card for some reason, they have a guy looking in for the sign, but to get the bleed effect they have the guy smushed all the way to the side of the card so it looks more like a shot of an outfield wall and the pitcher just got in the shot! OE: Well it's not Assenmacher, not sure who it was now... Ah well, funny card though
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TheOldMole Dec 04 2006 07:51 PM |
A good man.
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Edgy DC Dec 04 2006 08:16 PM |
I had just read about Carman in the afterword of Dollar Sign on the Muscle, which was a great read and needs to be returned to Dr. Dickshot. After all the prospects had weighed in, put on uniforms, and finished their own stretching exercises, there was always extra time for goofing around. The favorite diversion was a game called Flip, played just outside the clubhouse doors in circles of about fifteen prospects each. The players kept a ball moving without touching it with the throwing hand, simply using the glove to catch and flip in one motion, or to swat the ball without catching it, propelling it anywhere in the circle with added speed. If a player mistouched the ball, missed it, allowed it to hit the ground, or swatted it too wildly for anyone else to flip, he dropped out of the game, and circle tightened --- until only two players were left to smack the ball furiously at each other. Don Carman, a stringbean left-hander, was a consistent winner.The "stringbean lefthander" returns in Chapter 11: "Baseball Detectives," set at an amateur tryout camp. After the tryout, the author goes back with the tryout scouts to watch a minor-league game on the Holiday Inn television, minor-league ball being the only ball there is in the summer of 1981. They want to tune in because they're looking to watch a hot shortstop prospect in the Phillies system that they're excited about.* "I think Carman pitched last night," Ed Wolf said, "and that's the game they'll show today. It's on tape." I remembered someone telling me at spring training, where Don Carman was one one of the most interesting prospects I saw, that the Phillies had originally signed him out of a tryout camp in rural Oklahoma.In the afterword, they catch up with all the players scouted in the book, up until 1998. Minor-league pticher Don Carman (chapters 3 and 11) stood out at spring trainging in 1981 simply by winning so often at games of "Flip." He was gangly but coordinated, a lefty whose breaking pitch disassmebled the swings of lefty hitters. Carman had been undrafted in 1978, but Philadelphia scouts Don Williams and Doug Gassaway signed him that August on the basis of his performance at a tryout camp. He broke into the majors in 1984. In Carman's two best seasons with the Phillies, 1985--1986, his combined record was 19-9, with a 2.78 ERA. But he never regained his form after breaking his thumb in a 1987 car accident. In 1992, after an unsuccessful comeback with the Rangers, Carman retired with a lifetime record of 53-54, 11 saves and a 4.11 ERA.I remember him as a baffling starter, but one who wore down after five innings. *Julio Freaking Franco.
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Iubitul Dec 04 2006 08:41 PM |
Irish - thanks for sharing - that was a very cool article.
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Elster88 Dec 04 2006 08:42 PM |
Nice job Irish.
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metsguyinmichigan Dec 04 2006 09:38 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 05 2006 01:24 AM |
When I was 11, my existence pretty much revolved around Tom Seaver and the Mets -- as it should.
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Edgy DC Dec 04 2006 09:50 PM |
Post the poem, like, yesterday.
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Johnny Dickshot Dec 04 2006 10:10 PM |
Yeah, no use posting stuff on the Internet if you can't open up a vein.
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attgig Dec 05 2006 12:51 AM |
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pitchers and their freakin car accidents...... and here's another vote to post the poem...
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metsguyinmichigan Dec 05 2006 01:23 AM |
You asked for it....
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G-Fafif Dec 05 2006 06:51 AM |
Sent back the card, kept the poem. You wouldn't want it the other way around.
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Edgy DC Dec 05 2006 09:00 AM |
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Excuse me, but I don't recall Frost putting anything new out after 1975. Fan-tastick.
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Frayed Knot Dec 05 2006 09:26 AM |
"I don't recall Frost putting anything new out after 1975"
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seawolf17 Dec 05 2006 09:49 AM |
I read an interview with Seaver a few months ago where he mentioned a poem from an 11-year-old hanging in his den. Touching, really.
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Johnny Dickshot Dec 05 2006 10:12 AM |
Seaver once recited that poem in Sweden, where inspired audiences included musicians from a young ABBA wannabee band searching, until that moment, for a name.
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Willets Point Dec 05 2006 10:35 AM |
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One could even say they saw it as a sign, and it opened up their eyes.
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G-Fafif Dec 05 2006 05:33 PM |
All that he wants is another po-em...
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