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Oliver wanted more

Frayed Knot Dec 11 2006 03:02 PM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2694164]Darren Oliver signs with Anaheim[/url] Had a nice year for us - especially for someone coming out of retirement. But he also worked mostly low-leverage innings and, at age 36, it's not the type of performance that would be a good bet to duplicate.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 11 2006 03:06 PM

He's replaceable. He was useful, though. I'll mostly remember him for his six scoreless innings in this important game. I'll also remember him as my choice to start Game 7 of the NLCS.

sharpie Dec 11 2006 03:19 PM

It occurs to me that with Oliver and Cliff Floyd gone and Milledge possibly on the trading block, there might be no African-American Mets next year.

Nymr83 Dec 11 2006 03:54 PM

Los Mets don't like African Americans or Caucasians, they're looking into trading Wright, Loduca, and Glavine to the Tigers for Pudge and two Argentinians to be named later. sc=very high, incase you couldn't figure it out

metsmarathon Dec 11 2006 09:00 PM

sharpie wrote: It occurs to me that with Oliver and Cliff Floyd gone and Milledge possibly on the trading block, there might be no African-American Mets next year. that's why if we trade lastings, it should be for dontrelle.

Willets Point Dec 11 2006 09:03 PM

More?!

Edgy DC Dec 11 2006 09:34 PM

sharpie wrote: It occurs to me that with Oliver and Cliff Floyd gone and Milledge possibly on the trading block, there might be no African-American Mets next year. Well, there's the manager. He counts, like, extra.

metirish Dec 11 2006 09:39 PM

And now with Maz joining SNY that's two.

Edgy DC Dec 11 2006 09:41 PM

Is Mazzilli a Congolese name?

Johnny Dickshot Dec 11 2006 09:51 PM

Ben Johnson is a brother, I believe.

Vic Sage Dec 11 2006 09:55 PM

Fred WILPON: For what you are about to receive May the lord make you truly thankful. Darren OLIVER: Please, sir... I want some more. Omar MINAYA: What?! OLIVER: Please, Omar... I want some more. WILPON: More!? MINAYA: Scratch him! WILPON: Cut him! MINAYA: release him! WILPON: bury him! MINAYA: Pounce him! Trounce him! Pick him up and bounce him! WILPON: Wait! Before we kick him to the curb Can you please remind me, Omar, of his name? MINAYA: O-li-ver. WILPON & MINAYA: Oliver Oliver As ever before, you bums wanting more! Oliver Oliver But don't ask for more When you don't know what's in store. MINAYA: There a dark, bad, franchise in KC, where now stands Brian Bannister You could end up there, getting beat on daily, knocking you down till you fall on your fannister WILPON & MINAYA: Oliver Oliver What will he do when he can't wear black and blue? He will curse the day Somebody named him O-li-ver! WILPON: Oliver Oliver As ever before, you boys wanting more! Oliver Oliver But don't ask for more When you don't know what's in store. MINAYA: There's a team in Tampa Long overdue for a winning year If we push you out, you can play in a dome and fall on your derriere!. WILPON: Oliver Oliver As ever before, you boys wanting more! Oliver Oliver But don't ask for more When you don't know what's in store. MINAYA: There's a team in SoCal that's spending to stay competitive But if they'll pay you that much, go pitch for the Angels while we get repetitive! WILPON: Oliver Oliver What will we do, except to say tootle-oo? We won't rue the day the Angels signed up O-li-ver! MINAYA: Oliver...Oliver ride him out on a rail, let them put him on sale, For the highest bid Glad to be rid Of WILPON & MINAYA: O-li-ver!

Frayed Knot Dec 11 2006 10:02 PM

Tough to resist that Bannister line huh? ... just 'bout wrote itself I bet.

iramets Dec 12 2006 03:53 AM

You know, if they'd just change the team name to "The New York Ingrates" or something, I'd be okay with that. Not that the Mets are especially strong in this unpleasant trait, but this does seem an odd quality of human nature, no? I mean, examine what's just happened here: A pitcher has a good year for Team A in 2007. He wants a reward for his performance. Team A says "Whaddaya, nuts? You're 36 years old, you specialized low-impact innings, basically you suck eggs, and we're not buying. Sorry. Go peddle ya papers elsewhere, creep. We're done with ya." But Teams B, C, and D, OTOH, madly bid for his services, on the theory that, since he had a good year in 2007 for Team A, he's a lot better prospect to give THEM a good year in 2008 than their current staff , which they of course are weeding of probable incompetents. So the pitcher signs up with Team C for money he earned pitching for Team A, which deems him unworthy of the raise in salary he craves. It's not like this is top-secret classified information, is it? Oliver's age, his record, his salary demands, are all public information, and well scrutinized. So why does Anaheim look at it and say "Yum!" and dig in greedily and hungrily, while the Mets push back their plate and say, Uh, no, thank you, I'm full, honestly"? Familiarity breeds contempt?

Rockin' Doc Dec 13 2006 06:15 AM

I liked Oliver well enough and he did a good job for the Mets last year, but he was (is) an aging middle reliever/spot starter. Not the type of player that I want to see the Mets extending too much money on. The Angels also gave Gary Matthews, Jr. a multi-year deal worth $10 mil annually. It may be that the Angels aren't the best at value shopping. I say, let them be the one's to overpay for talent.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 13 2006 06:23 AM

Ira, are you saying that the Mets should have retained Oliver in gratitude for his good 2007, despite his age? Didn't you make the opposite argument in Glavine's case?