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TheOldMole
Jan 31 2007 11:45 AM

What's the record? I'm sure other teams have had two before the Mets.

Yancy Street Gang
Jan 31 2007 11:46 AM

I guess you're not counting those old House of David teams.

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2007 12:00 PM

Depending on how the roster shakes out, the Mets have three: Newhan, Schoeneweis, and Green.

metirish
Jan 31 2007 12:03 PM

Do they keep records of such tedious stuff?

TheOldMole
Jan 31 2007 12:16 PM

They keep records of everything.

Vic Sage
Jan 31 2007 12:47 PM

The Golem's Mighty Swing

http://www.amazon.com/Golems-Mighty-Swing-James-Sturm/dp/1896597459/sr=1-3/qid=1170265585/ref=sr_1_3/102-2781182-7010568?ie=UTF8&s=books

iramets
Jan 31 2007 01:01 PM

LA Dodgers used to have Koufax and the Sherry Bros. (plus coach Jake Pitler).

soupcan
Jan 31 2007 01:47 PM

I keep looking at this thread title and imagining a Samuel L. Jackson vehicle centered around a group of poisonous rabbis traveling to an away game.

Edgy DC
Jan 31 2007 01:49 PM

Yup.

G-Fafif
Jan 31 2007 04:27 PM

From the Jewish Major Leaguers card set update, card No. 55, entitled "Three in One Game":

]At the beginning of the 9th inning at Fenway Park on August 8, 2005, Gabe Kapler moved from right to left, Adam Stern replaced him in right and Kevin Youkilis took the field at third. The excitement generated by three Jewish players on the field at the same time raised the question of whether this had ever happened before. We knew that there had been at least eight other instances of at least three Jewish players on the same roster during the same year.

Subsequent research has led to the discovery that the record is actually FOUR Jewish players on the field at once! On September 21, 1941 (the afternoon before Rosh Hashanah), the New York Giants fielded four "Members of the Tribe" in the first game of a Polo Grounds doubleheader against Casey Stengel's Boston Braves. Harry Feldman, making his second major league appearance, pitched a nine-hit shutout. Sid Gordon, making his first major league appearance started in center and went one-for-three. Morrie Arnovich went one-for-four while playing left field, and Harry Danning did the catching and was hitless in four at-bats.

ABG
Feb 01 2007 09:39 AM

The Red Sox, of course, had Kapler and Youkilis.

Edgy DC
Feb 01 2007 09:54 AM

The previous post has made that clear.

soupcan
Feb 01 2007 09:59 AM

As did this incident...

metirish
Feb 01 2007 10:16 AM

That's still good for a laugh.

MFS62
Feb 01 2007 10:19 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I guess you're not counting those old House of David teams.


Yancy, read myth/ truth #1.

http://www.peppergame.com/myths.asp

Later

Yancy Street Gang
Feb 01 2007 10:26 AM

Interesting.

Then I guess they wouldn't count at all, would they?

ABG
Feb 01 2007 10:46 AM

Edgy DC wrote:
The previous post has made that clear.
Missed it. Oh well.

Edgy DC
Feb 01 2007 03:49 PM

Just in time.



With a Little Tweaking, Professional Baseball's Coming Soon to Israel
February 01, 2007 - Jared Shelly

Over the years, 33-year-old Dan Rootenberg has participated in every kind of baseball tryout imaginable -- from 1995 spring training with the New York Mets to minor league squads to a team in Zurich, Switzerland. But he said he'd never seen a tryout quite like the one in Massachusetts back in August.


Seth Cogan, the newly appointed general manager of the Netanya Tigers, shows off his team's jersey with the city's mayor, Miriam Fierberg.
From a baseball perspective, things seemed pretty routine: hitting from a pitching machine, running a 60-yard dash and practicing situational fielding, but other aspects struck him as unusual.
Seth Cogan, the newly appointed general manager of the Netanya Tigers, shows off his team's jersey with the city's mayor, Miriam Fierberg.

"Having played baseball my whole life, I've never seen an Israeli flag on a baseball field or people with tefillin praying before a tryout," said Rootenberg of his workouts with the upstart Israel Baseball League, which plans to bring pro ball to the Jewish state starting this summer.

Four IBL teams are set so far -- the Netanya Tigers, Tel Aviv Lightning, Bet Shemesh Blue Sox and Modi'in Miracle -- with two more to come, according to founder Larry Baras. The teams will play games at three ball parks: one in Petach Tikvah, just outside of Tel Aviv; another at Kibbutz Gezer, approximately halfway between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem; and one at a site to be determined.

'Go a Little Faster'


A pitcher tries to strike a favorable pose for Israel.
To make the game exciting for the average Israeli, Baras and his staff have done a little tweaking of the American style of play.
A pitcher tries to strike a favorable pose for Israel.

"We've been hearing that the Israeli mentality is an impatient one," relayed Baras. "We need the game to go a little faster, not three or four or five hours, so we'll have a seven-inning game rather than a nine-inning game."

While in Israel gathering ideas for the IBL, Baras noticed that Israelis kept asking the same question: "Are you going to have barbecues?" said Baras, who now seems to be as focused on food and entertainment at the games as he is on other aspects of the league.

And while he understands that some of the cultural differences make baseball in Israel a gamble, he believes it can pay off. "With American tourists and Americans who moved there, we have a terrific beginning fan base," he said.

Aside from the 45-game seasons each summer, IBL organizers hope that the league's best players can team up with Jewish major leaguers to make up an Israeli team to enter the World Baseball Classic in 2009.

Any player who makes one of the inaugural IBL squads will have impressed some pretty savvy baseball minds, one in particular being Dan Duquette. Now the IBL's director of player development, he is the former general manager for the Montreal Expos and the Boston Red Sox.

"Putting together a team is interesting, [but] assembling a league is even more interesting," said Duquette.

The league will be made up of Jews and non-Jews alike from all parts of the world, including some Israeli natives. The players -- who will not be forced to become Israeli citizens -- will receive around $2,500 for the season, a round-trip flight and housing during their summer-long stay.

During the Massachusetts tryouts -- actually held at the Dan Duquette Sports Academy -- Rootenberg said that the talent level was mixed, with some who wowed and others who looked like they were playing for a synagogue softball team.

"There were at least three [pitchers] that were bringing major heat -- in the 90s," attested Rootenberg, of the speed of some of the fastballs he faced.

After his daylong workout, Rootenberg, employed as a physical therapist in New York City, was among the first players chosen to the IBL.

And the son of a Six-Day War veteran said he could not be happier: "To give Israelis another little place of respite -- some entertainment to take their minds off their stressful lives -- feels like a worthy endeavor."

*62
Feb 03 2007 06:47 PM

In addition to not being Jewish, the House Of David was, seemingly, a precursor to David Koresh's Branch Davidians.

I don't think the team all carried automatic weapons and grenades, though.

Nymr83
Feb 03 2007 08:02 PM

]Seth Cogan, the newly appointed general manager of the Netanya Tigers, shows off his team's jersey with the city's mayor, Miriam Fierberg.


for anyone who cares, the jersey in the picture says "Netanya" not "Tigers"

]Aside from the 45-game seasons each summer, IBL organizers hope that the league's best players can team up with Jewish major leaguers to make up an Israeli team to enter the World Baseball Classic in 2009.


the WBC needs new rules, the idea that being eligible for citizenship in a country (as opposed to being an actual citizen) makes you eligible to play on that country's team is open to abuse. what happens when the king of Morocco passes a law that says "anyone who has played in MLB is eligible for Morrocan citizenship" so he can build a team?

Edgy DC
Feb 04 2007 12:04 AM

I think they operate under the rule that the team of your actual nation has to give you permission to jump ship.