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Rank your GMs

Edgy DC Feb 08 2007 12:17 PM

This guy does. His standards seems a little inconsistent (surprise!) but it's a fun exercise. I'd like to see a little more about which transactions particularly damn/redeem the men.

metirish Feb 08 2007 12:33 PM

Jim Hendry is rated as the 16th best GM,based on what?,his moves this off-season it looks like,I'd rate Dave Dombrowksi higher based as much on his work as the Marlins GM as his great work with the Tigers.

Edgy DC Feb 08 2007 12:50 PM

It doesn't seem a "best right NOW!!!!" list so much as a list of who has the best legacy among the guys curently working. So younger guys slide back, even as he confesses repsect for them. He seems restrained with pushing short-tenured guys too far based on little results. It's not so much Omar in the middle of the pack that surprised me, so much as Epstein being tenth.

Farmer Ted Feb 09 2007 09:56 AM

Giving bonus points to Cashman because "no job in baseball carries with it as much stress and pressure as that of Yankees GM" just doesn't fly with me. He has a $200+ payroll the last three seasons and choked against the Red Sox and got skunked by the Angels and Tigers.

Frayed Knot Feb 09 2007 10:06 AM

Another view from Fox Sports' [url=http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6392576]Dayn Perry[/url]

RealityChuck Feb 09 2007 10:31 AM

Farmer Ted wrote: Giving bonus points to Cashman because "no job in baseball carries with it as much stress and pressure as that of Yankees GM" just doesn't fly with me. He has a $200+ payroll the last three seasons and choked against the Red Sox and got skunked by the Angels and Tigers. You're right. Cashman didn't have a single clutch hit during those games.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 10:55 AM

As Marcus didn't really rank Moore and Byrnes, the biggest disagreements come on Gillick and Sabean, which makes some sense. I tend towards Perry's rank, I think. It's hard to give Sabean too much credit when he couldn't consistently find big-league hitters to hit behind Bonds. GM Team Perry Rank Marcus Rank Difference Average Schuerholz ATL 1 2 1 1.5 Jocketty STL 2 3 1 2.5 Beane OAK 4 1 3 2.5 Ryan MIN 3 6 3 4.5 Dombroski DET 6 7 1 6.5 Epstein BOS 5 10 5 7.5 Cashman NYY 11 4 7 7.5 Towers SDP 7 11 4 9 Gillick PHI 15 5 10 10 Williams CHW 8 13 5 10.5 Shapiro CLE 13 9 4 11 Minaya NYM 9 14 5 11.5 Stoneman LAA 12 12 0 12 Sabean SFG 17 8 9 12.5 Beinfest FLA 10 17 7 13.5 Melvin MIL 14 18 4 16 Ricciardi TOR 20 15 5 17.5 Purpura HOU 18 20 2 19 Hendry CHC 25 16 9 20.5 Byrnes ARI 16 26 10 21 Bowden WAS 24 19 5 21.5 Moore KCR 19 30 11 24.5 Colletti LAD 21 28 7 24.5 Friedman TBD 22 27 5 24.5 Flanagan BAL 26 23 3 24.5 Littlefield PIT 27 24 3 25.5 O'Dowd COL 29 22 7 25.5 Bavasi SEA 30 21 9 25.5 Daniels TEX 23 29 6 26 Krivsky CIN 28 25 3 26.5

Farmer Ted Feb 09 2007 12:07 PM

Dayn Perry, I'm reading your mind.

Nymr83 Feb 09 2007 03:30 PM

]Giving bonus points to Cashman because "no job in baseball carries with it as much stress and pressure as that of Yankees GM" just doesn't fly with me. He has a $200+ payroll the last three seasons and choked against the Red Sox and got skunked by the Angels and Tigers. the playoffs arent his fault, but theres no way he should be top 10, he doesnt have to build a team under the same budget constraints as 20-25 of the other teams.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 03:43 PM

Well, I'd never say, "no way" because that would pretty much disqualify Omar from ever reaching. Most damning to Cashman is that his team has been champ-less since 2000, when it started perhaps being more his team than Bob Watson's team.

metirish Feb 09 2007 04:06 PM

I think Cashman defenders might say that it's truely only been his team for the last two seasons,he had to contend with the Tampa people before.

metirish Feb 09 2007 04:07 PM

I'm not defending him.

Frayed Knot Feb 09 2007 04:09 PM

It's kinda tough to judge Cashman since the NYY (read: Steinbrenner)notion of a GM differed from most others during much of his tenure. George believed in "creative tension" and often had his 'Tampa office' making moves that were sometimes directly opposed to what Cashman and Stick Michael were trying to do in NYC. So while some of the moves made during his time can be directly attributed to him, other were made despite his say-so and even some made completely without his knowledge. Supposedly that all changed (and, by all appearances, it has) after he inked his latest contract two seasons ago now.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 04:17 PM

Yeah, but to Hell with the Tampa people. Steinbrenner interferes when he's not banished, we know that. Either Yankee GMs are subject to judgment like others or they're immune.