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Chan Ho Park?

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 07:57 AM

To the Mets for one year and three million, according to his agent. The Korea Times is the only place I'm finding this right now.

Yancy Street Gang Feb 09 2007 07:58 AM

If my name was Chan Ho Park, and I had enough money, I'd buy naming rights to a stadium.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 07:59 AM

Daily News is running: Source: Mets to sign righthander Chan Ho Park By ADAM RUBIN DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER When pitchers and catchers report to Port St. Lucie in six days, the Mets will have another starter in the mix. Chan Ho Park is expected to sign with the Mets in the next 48 hours, a source told the Daily News late last night. Park, a 33-year-old righthander, went 7-7 with a 4.81 ERA in 24 appearances (21 starts) for the Padres last season. He made $15 million in '06, in the final year of a five-year, $65 million contract agent Scott Boras negotiated with the Rangers in December 2001. Park has a 113-87 record in 13 years with the Dodgers, Rangers and Padres. One Korean report valued the deal with the Mets at $3 million, with a 2009 option. The Padres reportedly recently offered Park an opportunity to re-sign as a long-relief/spot starter - a role Jorge Sosa also could occupy with the Mets. Park missed seven weeks late last season after undergoing surgery to halt bleeding in his small intestine. He originally had the internal bleeding trouble in July, landed on the DL, returned for a pair of August starts, then suffered a relapse. "I was wondering if I would come back before the season was over," Park told the San Diego Union-Tribune in September.

RealityChuck Feb 09 2007 08:40 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: If my name was Chan Ho Park, and I had enough money, I'd buy naming rights to a stadium. Though, technically, his name is Park Chan Ho.

metirish Feb 09 2007 08:54 AM

Technically he's rubbish though,isn't he?

seawolf17 Feb 09 2007 09:07 AM

Then he could name it Park Chan Ho Park. Or he could name it Even Though I Suck I Fleeced The Mets For Three Million Dollars Stadium at Park Chan Ho Yards.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 09 2007 09:10 AM

He's been rubbish since signing that huge contract with Texas. He was good with the Dodgers, as I recall it though that was 5 or 6 years ago.

Yancy Street Gang Feb 09 2007 09:11 AM

The only reason Omar gave him all that money is because Park is Hispanic.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 09:15 AM

Well, last year he was $15 million rubbish. This year he'll only be $3 million dollars worth. He cut his walk rate way down last year, which is encouraging, but he bagan leaking from the other end, as his homer rate went way up.... at Petco. The NatWest must be funny, with three parks that resist homers and two that invite them. Anyhow, my main concern with him is that it puts one more hurdle in Humfrey's way. I still espect that if they perform, they'll pitch, but this may delay their 2007 debuts whether they perform or not. I was half expecting something like this. The Mets have had at least one Japanese player since Takashi Kashiwada in 1997. Ten years. If that streak dies, I guess a Korean willl keep the Oriental streak alive.

metirish Feb 09 2007 09:16 AM

All fuck acting aside,Omar is paying him big cabbage,what's the plan here,and what impact does this have on the young ones...

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 09:30 AM

Fucking aside? I think he looks like a member of the rotation right now.

KC Feb 09 2007 09:35 AM

This has been a very bizzaro off-season for Los Metropolitans.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 09 2007 09:40 AM

We acquired a 60 (Schowenewis) and a 61 (Park). Damn skippy that's nutty.

metirish Feb 09 2007 09:41 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Fucking aside? I think he looks like a member of the rotation right now. That's what I feared,well I suppose the Korean cheering section will be back,and that's a good thing. Manchester United fans sing this song for Ji-Sung Park,to the tune of " Lord of the Dance",we need our own lyrics for Chan Ho Park, Park, wherever you may be, You eat dogs in your home country! It could be worse, you could be a Scouse, Eating rats in your council house!

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 09:47 AM

Those Brits have taught us so much about race relations. Can you break away from your alibis? Can you make a play? Will you meet me, Chan Ho Park?

metirish Feb 09 2007 09:58 AM

Park, Park, wherever you may be, You eat dogs in your home country! It could be worse, you could be a yankee eating jeters and torre's nuts. I'm no good at this.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 09 2007 10:30 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Those Brits have taught us so much about race relations. Can you break away from your alibis? Can you make a play? Will you meet me, Chan Ho Park? what a great song. I demand Soupcan invite Billy Squier to perform at the first annual CPF clambake this summer.

duan Feb 09 2007 10:45 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Well, last year he was $15 million rubbish. This year he'll only be $3 million dollars worth. He cut his walk rate way down last year, which is encouraging, but he bagan leaking from the other end, as his homer rate went way up.... at Petco. The NatWest must be funny, with three parks that resist homers and two that invite them. Anyhow, my main concern with him is that it puts one more hurdle in Humfrey's way. I still espect that if they perform, they'll pitch, but this may delay their 2007 debuts whether they perform or not. I was half expecting something like this. The Mets have had at least one Japanese player since Takashi Kashiwada in 1997. Ten years. If that streak dies, I guess a Korean willl keep the Oriental streak alive. funnily enough his new pecota card says dis WARP MORP Mean VORP Upside 1.7 $3,050,000 5.1 8.8

Nymr83 Feb 09 2007 11:00 AM

Park stinks. bad move.

metsmarathon Feb 09 2007 11:01 AM

he did have a 4.17 home ERA, tho gave up 12 homers there, as opposed to 8 on the road. i don't hate the signing, as its hard to get worked up over $3M when i can't imagine that he's locked into a rotation spot, and therefore can be viewed at worst as likely to start the season in the rotation barring utter uselessness demonstrated in spring training, and with a short leash once the real season starts and of course if the young'un(s) he displaces pitch well in the minors. this is enough to throw off my rotation prediction of course...

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 11:06 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 09 2007 11:50 AM

I don't hate it. I don't like it either. I was thinking we had just enough major league talent and minor league talent to make Humber/Pelfrey fight for a role without holding them back if they earn a spot. Granted, I felt that way before Willliams disappeared, so he may just be Williams' replacement. But that gives us a roster of 25 healthy guys without options.

willpie Feb 09 2007 11:30 AM

Actually, dude was on my fantasy team last season and he was pretty good for a good chunk of the year. Of course, that could be one of those indications of why fantasy sports do not reflect reality, but I'm just sayin'.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 09 2007 11:37 AM

He was good until that intestinal thing last year. It's the five years before last that ought to concern us.

attgig Feb 09 2007 12:07 PM

when he was actually good, and before he gave up that homer to cal ripkin in the ASG, he was always a second half pitcher. dunno how that's giong to pan out in spring training.

abogdan Feb 09 2007 12:21 PM

Darren Oliver/Dave Williams replacement was my thoughts exactly on this signing. He was decent last year before his intestines exploded. He'll be one of the dozen pitchers who end up starting a game for the Mets this year, but hopefully he'll spend most of the season as a long-reliever.

sharpie Feb 09 2007 12:31 PM

I think he'd make a pretty good long reliever/spot starter. Long as we don't hand him a starting job in ST I'm ok with this.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 12:49 PM

I don't think he's handed anything, but I think he reports to camp as a favorite for the fifth slot. In fact, it's possible that rotation that leaves camp is Glavine-Hernandez-Perez-Park-Sosa, Maine having options.

metirish Feb 09 2007 12:53 PM

I'm looking at that possible rotation and I am in disbelieve,not to sound like an alarmist but if that is the rotation then I think we are fucked.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 12:57 PM

Oh, I don't think we're fucked no matter. And I think that's a pretty unlikely scenario. We have enough arms that if they fail, there are more options. I just don't want the team to dig a hole futzing around with the wrong guys.

Willets Point Feb 09 2007 01:17 PM

Hee-hee, funny analogy over at Faith & Fear Jason wrote: There's throwing spaghetti at the wall to see if something sticks. Then there's throwing spaghetti sauce at the wall, which just makes a mess.

attgig Feb 09 2007 01:28 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 09 2007 01:29 PM

apparently, the pads were offering him a contract too http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/02/08/sports/professional/padres/22_38_462_7_07.txt and has a new agent who negotiated this contract: http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/sports/200701/kt2007012817252811640.htm

Rotblatt Feb 09 2007 01:28 PM

Apparently, he's only guaranteed $600K, with an additional $2.4M in incentives, based largely on playing time. (From www.rotoworld.com). That makes me like this move a lot more.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 01:35 PM

Me too, not that I trust rotoworld scoops. Wait a minute. Does rotoworld know about any clauses in Scott Schoeneweis' contract?

vtmet Feb 09 2007 01:41 PM

According to the NY Post, Park's Pay is a base salary of under $1 Mil...

Gwreck Feb 09 2007 01:57 PM

ESPN sez. 600 K with up to 2.4 Mil in performance bonuses based on IP.

metirish Feb 09 2007 02:05 PM

Ok,would it be a good thing or a bad thing if Park achieves the IP to get the performance bonuses to kick in? I suppose there are several ways to look at that.

Nymr83 Feb 09 2007 03:21 PM

Edgy DC wrote: I don't think he's handed anything, but I think he reports to camp as a favorite for the fifth slot. In fact, it's possible that rotation that leaves camp is Glavine-Hernandez-Perez-Park-Sosa, Maine having options. i think thats what we're all afraid of...Maine getting treated the way Seo was treated after his good year

smg58 Feb 09 2007 04:26 PM

Seo took too many things for granted and wound up pitching his way out of the rotation that spring. I didn't agree with it, but Seo didn't help his case any. He also didn't have more quality playoff starts than his competition combined. I'm assuming that Maine will have to be spectaculaly awful or hurt to lose his spot. We outbid other teams for Park and Sosa, so anybody who claims them on waivers if they get DFA'd will pay them more than they were willing to offer them in free agency. It's probably not that likely, and even if it does happen we'd get back money they wouldn't be earning while pitching in New Orleans. So I don't see any reason to factor in options when making the rotation; just get the best five out there. I think it's safe to assume, given the multitude of options, that Park would have to pitch well for the incentives to kick in.

smg58 Feb 09 2007 04:29 PM

Keep in mind also that Park closed for Korea in the WBC, so he is a viable bullpen option as well.

Edgy DC Feb 09 2007 10:21 PM

The Dong-A Libo seems to think the $3 million is guaranteed and he's our number-three.

Nymr83 Feb 09 2007 10:54 PM

I'd suggest that they aren't the most objective in these matters and that their Dollars-to-korean currency calculations must be off or something. i'll trust ESPN's report until given a good reason (words out of the mets mouths) not to.

seawolf17 Feb 10 2007 07:58 PM

="[url=http://www.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2007/2/10/2725082.html]Mets Blog[/url]"]For his career, Chan Ho Park has posted a 4.19 ERA against teams from the National League East, other than the Mets. Park has had the most success against the Phillies, compiling a 3.09 ERA in 70 innings pitched, and has had the most trouble facing the Braves, sporting a 5.67 ERA in 79 and two-thirds innings. Additionally, the 33-year-old right-hander has posted a 2.92 ERA and allowed no home runs in six career appearances at Shea Stadium. Interesting.

Edgy DC Feb 10 2007 09:04 PM

I 'spect, though that that's pretty readily attributable to Park doing most of his pitching against the Phils back in the nineties when he was a better pitcher.

Edgy DC Feb 12 2007 02:46 PM

One thing that makes Chan Ho Metly is that he once went karate kicking on Tim Belcher, who went 2-0 against the Mets in the 1988 LCS.

Frayed Knot Feb 12 2007 11:43 PM

btw, NYDN reporter Adam Rubin was on the SNY program today 'Daily News Live' saying that the Mets, rather than seeing CH Park as the favorite for the 5th starter position, view him as nothing more than an insurance policy and that the contract - initially reported at $3mil - guarantees him no more than 100-200K if he's cut during ST. IOW, they're not nearly as committed to him as many of us first suspected.

Gwreck Feb 13 2007 12:52 AM

It's good to know they made a sound financial investment, but I wonder who exactly Adam Rubin is thinking is in the lead for that 5th spot -- Pelfrey?

Yancy Street Gang Feb 13 2007 06:47 AM

Maybe we can get Rubin to visit us again. Wasn't it during spring training when he visited us last year?

Frayed Knot Feb 13 2007 09:00 AM

Gwreck wrote: It's good to know they made a sound financial investment, but I wonder who exactly Adam Rubin is thinking is in the lead for that 5th spot -- Pelfrey? I just think his point was that it's very much an open competition for #5 and that Park doesn't have a leg up simply due to a contract situation as many initially assumed. The Mets are certainly hoping that Pelfrey and/or Humber step up and grab it during ST but that Park & Sele & Vargas, etc are there in case they don't.

Edgy DC Feb 13 2007 09:08 AM

It is a major league deal, though, right? I'd say that makes him a nominal favorite, anyhow.

Frayed Knot Feb 13 2007 09:13 AM

ML yes (at least I assume so) but even the low 600K base salary only kicks in if he actually makes the squad. They can cut him before opening day and not be on the hook for much more than what amounts to meal money these days.

Diamond Dad Feb 13 2007 09:23 PM Hate Park. Hate him now.

I hate Park. He's worthless. Even for $600K, he'll get to spring training and take innings away from Pelfry and Humber and any number of other kids who have so much more upside and who I'd rather see pitch. If Park is the #5 starter, he'll suck and it will inhibit the development of whatever young future star who ends up at AAA as a result. Park will have one or two good starts early and we'll wonder whether Oman caught lightning in a bottle, but by June we'll be wishing we had Ishii back. Tell me that Humber couldn't put up a 4.81 ERA and lose as many as he wins -- that's what Park did last year -- giving up 1.4 baserunners per inning pitched. H.A.T.E. him.

Rockin' Doc Feb 13 2007 09:34 PM

Well, at least Park's signing did have one up side...it briefly brought Diamond Dad out of semi-retirement on the forum. I whole heartedly agree with DD's assessment.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 13 2007 09:41 PM

And I think you two need to share a joint and mellow out.

Edgy DC Feb 13 2007 09:44 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 13 2007 10:46 PM

The real question is whether the theoretical time at AAA will by definition inhibit development. If that's true, then the issue isn't Park, but the Mets. Humber threw 73 innings last year. By his own admission, he's still rebuilding arm strength. I have no problem with Park parking him at AAA until he does. Pelfrey is another issue. But I think it's an open question of whether a top pitching prospect is better served pitching substandardly in the bigs or being held back until it appears he's ready to perform well consistently. I agree the 2007 Mets are likely not better served breaking camp with Park or Pelfrey. I still don't think the hate is worth it. There'll be retreads every year in every camp for every team. Some are Darren Oliver. Most ain't.

OlerudOwned Feb 13 2007 10:28 PM

I like the Park signing simply because it blocks Pelfrey from joining the ML rotation. The Tounged One has a nasty fastball, and the fact that he's been able to dominate lower competition with just that bodes well for his future, but I don't want him in the Big Boy rotation until he's got a secondary pitch he can rely on. Not to mention that Ballmer just paid $3 million+ for Trachsel, making the Park deal glow in comparison.

Frayed Knot Feb 13 2007 11:09 PM

"Humber threw 73 innings last year" Which makes it about 150 or so professional innings since his drafting approx 32 months ago!! Oh yeah, and there was that surgery thing. Just how badly do we want this guy to go wire to wire while throwing 200+ IPs this season? And the 'take time away from kids' in ST reasoning is silly.

Nymr83 Feb 13 2007 11:19 PM

i don't think we necessarily want Humber to start the year in the majors...but we want Humber OR Pelfrey to be able to earn a spot in the spring and not be locked out automatically by a pitcher we already know isn't very good.

Frayed Knot Feb 13 2007 11:28 PM

And what makes you think that they'll be "automatically locked out"?

Nymr83 Feb 14 2007 12:28 AM

i dont necessarily think that, but if they are, or if its a bullshit "competition" (like the "competition" the Jets said they were having at QB in the preseason) then i'd be pissed off.

Edgy DC Feb 14 2007 07:55 AM

Bring Park the hate until the Jets get their act together!

Yancy Street Gang Feb 14 2007 08:23 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: And I think you two need to share a joint and mellow out. At least neither of them used the word "vomit."

Nymr83 Feb 14 2007 08:24 AM

i was just using that as an example of a team saying theres a competition when there is really not. it actually worked out well for them.

Edgy DC Feb 14 2007 08:47 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 14 2007 09:06 AM

I don't think we should demand that the word "competition" --- even when prefaced with "wide open" --- means everybody is starting from the same place, and whoever has the best ERA/OPS in spring training gets the job.

metirish Feb 14 2007 08:59 AM

I wonder would Park accept going to New Orleans if he doesn't make the squad.

Nymr83 Feb 14 2007 10:02 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I don't think we should demand that the word "competition" --- even when prefaced with "wide open" --- means everybody is starting from the same place, and whoever has the best ERA/OPS in spring training gets the job. no, but the word "competition" should at least mean that multiple players have a legitimate chance at the job, that wasn't the case in Jet camp. I just hope the Mets aren't going to use contracts and who has options to decide the rotation.

Yancy Street Gang Feb 14 2007 10:12 AM

Nymr83 wrote: I just hope the Mets aren't going to use contracts and who has options to decide the rotation. I agree with that. Contracts always play a part in these decisions, but none of the contenders for the rotatation (other than the guys who are already in) are highly paid, so that shouldn't be a factor. I don't know if options will either. If Park and Sele don't pitch well, the Mets won't be worried about losing them. I suppose it's possible that if Pelfrey and Park pitch equally well in Florida, Pelfrey may end up losing out.

Frayed Knot Feb 14 2007 10:13 AM

No one who's in competition for the back of the rotation this spring has a big enough contract to even factor into things. Options, on the other hand, can and often do figure into who goes where to start the season -- and, at times, they should. There's nothing wrong with having a youngster cooling his heels in the minors for a short spell - especially if the alternative is losing a player who might come in handy at some point later on. As Capt Renault said to Rick after he blew off Yvonne; 'you shouldn't throw away women like that Ricky, someday they may be scarce' And, coming off a season where we burned through 13 starters, it should be obvious that the same logic can apply to hurlers.

Edgy DC Feb 14 2007 10:20 AM

I don't see why people want to see this as black and white. Should options be the only factor? Of course not. Should they be a factor? Of course. How big? It depends. If Perez underwhelms this spring, I'm sure peeps will be prepared to rip the team if they lose him trying to push him through waivers --- as they did with Wheeler --- or if they carry him and try to get him right --- as they did with Julio.