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abogdan Feb 16 2007 09:53 PM |
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The Steve Trachsel Rule:
The Nomar Rule:
The Rule that will applicable to my daughter in 20 years:
And a new rain delay rule:
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metirish Feb 16 2007 10:02 PM |
The question is will the umps enforce the Trax and Nomar rules.
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 12:07 AM |
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horrible rule. what happens when an april game gets resumed in july? who is "eligible" to play in this "resumed" game? the guy who you traded a month ago? the guy you called up last week? what do we do about the guy who was standing on 1st base when the game was called and is now on the DL?
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Edgy DC Feb 17 2007 12:15 AM |
This "horrible rule" has a lot of precedent and such consequences have been considered and dealt with.
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SteveJRogers Feb 17 2007 12:21 AM |
Its also begging for a Billy Martin-esque protest with a pitcher and infielder roaming the outfield just to finish off the final 5 and a half innings of a game.
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 12:29 AM |
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how are they dealing with them? the article on espn makes no mention
somewhere, Robin Ventura is smiling.
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Edgy DC Feb 17 2007 12:45 AM |
Rule 4.12(d): A suspended game shall be resumed at the exact point of suspension of the original game. The completion of a suspended game is a continuation of the original game. The lineup and batting order of both teams shall be exactly the same as the lineup and batting order at the moment of suspension, subject to the rules governing substitution. Any player may be replaced by a player who had not been in the game prior to the suspension. No player removed before the suspension may be returned to the lineup. A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended. If immediately prior to the call of a suspended game, a substitute pitcher has been announced but has not retired the side or pitched until the batter becomes a baserunner, such pitcher, when the suspended game is later resumed may, but is not required to start the resumed portion of the game. However, if he does not start he will be considered as having been substituted for and may not be used in that game.
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 12:48 AM |
in other words, the team with less players remaining from their "original" roster is at a distinct advantage.
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Edgy DC Feb 17 2007 12:58 AM |
So, you don't like it. The point is that, despite your implication that they haven't thought this through, they've played suspended games under these rules for decades.
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 01:42 AM |
i'd be ok with the resumption of a suspended game the next day (which would hopefully be the case in most circumstances) its the idea of it happening weeks later that i find unfair
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Frayed Knot Feb 17 2007 09:27 AM |
All they're really doing here is adding those tie games stopped by rain (probably less than 1-2 per/yr in all MLB) to the list of what qualifies as a "suspended game".
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 11:00 AM |
i'd love to see those time rules enforced, the length of the game is a big "turnoff" in my opinion to many casual fans, i think its gotten somewhat better the last 3 or 4 years but theres still a long way to go
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SteveJRogers Feb 17 2007 11:14 AM |
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Course the irony there is how much lots of offense is a big turn-on to many causal fans, and the increase of game times are really more a product of offense related issues than the length of time inbetween pitches. Issues would be prolonged innings going 6-8 batter deep because pitchers struggle to get outs against big offensive lineups, rise of specialization of the reliever of course has multiple pitching changes, say nothing of multiple trips to the mound in the same frame. Not to mention the issues arising from expansion which means you are now dealing with many pitchers who even 20 years ago would still be in AAA, or at the very least would not be called up untill the organization was sure he was ready to face big league hitting. Mike Hargrove was the original "Human Rain Delay" and this was in the 70's! I'm sure he wasn't alone, and I'm sure there were pitchers ala Traschel back when games would go much more rapidly. And yes, TV is part of the problem as well. I mean if there is a problem with TV broadcasts "missing" pitches or just coming back as a play is occuring, thats probably because the umpire crew chief just had enough of waiting for TV to get back from it's commercials!
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 01:50 PM |
television breaks between innings, time between pitches, batters stepping out of the box, and excessive pitching changes are a much bigger problem (time-wise) than offense.
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Edgy DC Feb 17 2007 05:51 PM |
Excessive pitching changes are largely the byproduct of the offense, though.
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Nymr83 Feb 17 2007 05:56 PM |
i think the excessive pitching changes started in the late 80's before the offensive boom, though it has certainly accelerated.
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