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Tim Hardaway hates gay people

Centerfield Feb 15 2007 11:09 AM

Tim Hardaway responds to John Amaeche's book with his fascinating views on gays: "You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known," Hardaway said. "I don't like gay people and I don't like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don't like it. It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States." You can read the article here: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2766213 You know, Tim, it wasn't long ago that people were saying things like that about Jackie Robinson.

Yancy Street Gang Feb 15 2007 11:22 AM

I'll bet you five bucks that he has gay inclinations and it scares the hell out of him.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2007 11:24 AM

His head always looked kind of waxy.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2007 11:29 AM

He'll get criticized, but I'm sure he'll remain a hero to the citizens of those towns he starred in --- San Francisco and Miami. Sheesh, how detached can you get?

Edgy DC Feb 15 2007 01:54 PM

Ms. Edgy sends me a random message. Who says these things in public? Oh, closeted gay people.

Centerfield Feb 15 2007 02:37 PM

My favorite part is how he tries to apologize for it shortly afterwards. If you're going to be bigoted, do it with some conviction.

Yancy Street Gang Feb 15 2007 03:25 PM

="Edgy DC"]Ms. Edgy sends me a random message. Who says these things in public? Oh, closeted gay people. That's always been my theory, too. (Either people in the closet or people in self-denial.) Ms. Edgy has great wisdom.

KC Feb 15 2007 03:30 PM

Hate can be unlearned. If I may, I used to hate gay people and was a homophobic too. I may have told parts of this story in the past ... my best friend's younger brother is gay. I've known them since we were teenagers and I'm in my mid-forties now. Jimmy (not his really name) was engaged to be married to a nice woman about a dozen years ago and got cold feet like a week before a 250 person wedding was about to take place. Broke the girl's heart and everyone thought he'd lost his freakin' mind walking away from a seemingly great relationship. The next summer he turned thirty and little by little told everyone he was gay and was moving in with his boyfriend of five years. He made a point that summer of telling everyone who he wanted to know face to face, one on one. When I asked him what took him so long, he said he was afraid to lose his family and friends because most of us were all a bunch of closed-minded assholes on the subject. Phwam. They're still together and them being a couple has become second nature to most everyone. It's a reality that Tim Hardaway just hasn't learned. Jimmy comes from a really large family. A number of his brothers-in-law share Tim's views and what comes out of their mouths behind his back is disgusting. He's the same guy who we threw in the snow at the bus stop, played hoops with, and went to concerts with. He just happens to live with a guy ... fuck off Tim.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2007 03:51 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 15 2007 07:54 PM

KC wrote: He's the same guy who we threw in the snow at the bus stop... . You made him gay, you know. No, seriously great post.

metirish Feb 15 2007 04:11 PM

Good post KC....Amechie might not like what Hardaway said but it probably won't hurt book sales....

KC Feb 15 2007 05:50 PM

E:>>>You made him gay, you know.<<< Funny, a few of us were charged but all finally acquitted.

ScarletKnight41 Feb 15 2007 05:52 PM

I don't think I want to know about the trial....

Nymr83 Feb 15 2007 06:19 PM

I'd like to thank Tim Hardaway. Speaking the truth is a good thing. Now we can all bash you and tell you how big a politically incorrect jerk you are, but you had the nuts to speak your mind. And the NBA isn't going to solve a problem (if that problem indeed exists) until the problem is made plain for all to see as Tim has done. The sooner that all the players who feel as Tim does admit to their feelings the better. You can't start questioning their issues and getting them to see that theres nothing to worry about until you know who the "they" are.

metirish Feb 15 2007 10:54 PM

For prosperity

DocTee Feb 15 2007 11:23 PM

and posterity, too

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2007 09:41 AM

So Hardaway is giving one of his post-diatribe, mea-culpa interviews from behind an iron fence in front of (I assume) his home. The fun part of this on-camera clip is that this fence is a pink/peach kind of color (hey, it's Miami) and in close-ups it looks like Hardaway is talking from behind bars inside some kind of pink jail cell ... and I'm thinking, now THAT'S appropriate.

Edgy DC Feb 16 2007 09:47 AM

His apology has about 2% contrition content.

MFS62 Feb 16 2007 10:07 AM

And in a (real) associated story, the NBA has asked Hardaway to leave Las Vegas, the site of this weekend's All Star Game. I heard tapes of his statement yesterday. Yes, he said he was sorry. But it sounded (to me) like he was sorry for what has happened to him since making those comments, not for how his words may have hurt others. Later

Yancy Street Gang Feb 16 2007 10:20 AM

MFS62 wrote: But it sounded (to me) like he was sorry for what has happened to him since making those comments, not for how his words may have hurt others. That's how it often is.

Frayed Knot Feb 18 2007 09:34 PM

The only thing surprising about this Hardaway interview was that it was on the same Miami radio station where Sid Rosenberg now works but not on Rosenberg's show.

metirish Feb 18 2007 09:37 PM

No FK but Lebatard is just as bad...it was his show I think.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2007 03:59 PM

It was LeBatard, who - although I've never heard on the radio - is at least a legit journalist and would be held to some sort of standard concerning what he asked, how he asked it, and what his reaction was like. On the other hand, one could only imagine what a similar interview w/Rosenberg would have been like. Sid would either recognize the political incorrectness of it all and the noteriety for himself and start a name-calling fight with Hardaway; or (and perhaps more likely) his natural inclination to suck-up to athletes would have kicked in had him chuckling and agreeing with Hardaway in a 'yeah, we real men don't play that' kind of way.

Willets Point Feb 21 2007 12:09 AM

George Takei (of Star Trek fame) responds:

ScarletKnight41 Feb 21 2007 08:37 AM

That was funny!

seawolf17 Feb 21 2007 09:25 AM

That was outstanding.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 21 2007 09:50 AM

Make me miss Howard Stern even more. They used to cut up pieces of Takei's interviews and reassemble them so as to make him say "I love to / touch / black / wang" etec. Very funny, and Takei, a very good sport.

Edgy DC Feb 21 2007 09:55 AM

I dunno. Takei used to be very dignified and waited a long time before publickly coming out (thoguh anyone who met him knew). I think he's learned from Shatner that there's more money making fun of yourself than letting people make fun of you, but it's kind of sad to see.

metirish Feb 21 2007 10:25 AM

The President of Poland paints himself in glory.... ] Polish President Hates on Gays, Pretends Not To Be Hating On Gays Irish President Chides Undiplomatic Behavior We can't believe that people still think of faggotry as some big sexual sponge, slowly but surely sopping up the rest of the world's mating and dating rituals. Foolish, yes, but that didn't stop legendary homophobe and Polish President Lech Kaczynski from airing his gay grievances in Ireland. Taking an official visit in Ireland, where the gay marriage debate has been raging like a bad case of gonorrhea, Kaczynski defended his decision to ban a gay rights parade in Warsaw, saying: If that kind of approach to sexual life were to be promoted on a grand scale, the human race would disappear. Imagine what grand changes would occur in mores if the traditional links between men and women were set aside. Well, yes, we suppose that would be disastrous - at least in theory. Sure, you technically need a man and a woman to have a baby, but we're sure the grand gay agenda's planned for procreation. It's really quite simple: once a month the lesbians and the gays will come together, swap sperm, eggs and the rest and hope for the best. Coming under fire, Kaczynski insisted he's not homophobic. The media, it seems, has just been twisting his words. He told The Independent: Among my personal friends there are individuals affected by this different sexual orientation, or homosexuality, but they enjoy full rights, they are able to move forward in various spheres of life This is a tendency, an orientation that has always existed, I don't know why. I do not intend to combat it, to force them into therapy. But at the same time, I don't think it's appropriate that they should promote their sexual orientation. Yow, remind us not to befriend Kaczynski. He makes homosexuality sound like cancer, as if his friends have been struck by some incurable disease and he can't be bothered to support them. At least Irish President Mary McAleese has more sense. Of Kaczynski's remarks, she said: It is certainly completely inappropriate for the president of a friendly state to promote his own ignorance at the expense of Irish citizens who have fought very hard to establish their human and civil rights. His nonsense about the threat posed by homosexuality has shown his very limited intelligence and was a betrayal of decent Polish people. Damn, them's fighting words! Polish president's homophobia outrages the Irish [Pink News UK] Anti-Gay Remarks Made By Polish President Sparks Anger in Ireland [GCN] Tagged: Ireland, Ireland gay marriage, News, Poland, Politics http://www.queerty.com/queer/news/polish-president-hates-on-gays-pretends-not-to-be-hating-on-gays-20070221.php

Johnny Dickshot Feb 21 2007 10:38 AM

Edgy DC wrote: I dunno. Takei used to be very dignified and waited a long time before publickly coming out (thoguh anyone who met him knew). I think he's learned from Shatner that there's more money making fun of yourself than letting people make fun of you, but it's kind of sad to see. I dunno. Takei's dignity came complete with a thick outer shell of pretension. I think what is dignified about GT is that he rolled with it when he was called on it.

Edgy DC Feb 21 2007 10:54 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Takei's dignity came complete with a thick outer shell of pretension. Absolutely. I'm just looking at this through the lens of his captain. Shatner, in re-inventing himself, never seemed to gain self-awareness, so much as the awareness that there's more money being in on the joke. WS is actually less funny when he's trying to make fun of himself. Far less. I hope the same isn't true of George Toughguy.