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Frayed Knot
Feb 28 2007 10:18 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 01 2007 09:00 AM

From various sources over the last day or two:

* Duaner Sanchez sounds increasingly unlikely to be ready for opening day.
He's mostly long-tossing at this point to re-build the strength in his arm but I don't think we'll see him in a game situation for a while

* Sidewinder Joe Smith (aka: the Mormon) is opening some eyes.
He's a righty like Bradford - more a sidearm than the totally underneath deal of Chad - but throws much harder (into the 90s) and apparently made a few batters he faced during inter-squad look silly and the ones just watching mutter; 'Damn'!

* Juan Padilla - the 2005 refugee who underwent surgery just about a year ago this time IIRC - is throwing but not yet at 100% by his own admission. Also probably not a great bet for April 1.

So this all leaves us with "locks" of Heilman and three southpaws: Wagner, Feliciano & Schoenweis
The others (three? four?) will come out of some combo of:
Burgos, Smith, Adkins, plus maybe one or two from the losers in the starting fight (Sosa, Vargas, Soler, and maybe even Park and/or Sele - but almost certainly not Pelfrey & Humber) with Sosa in particular mentioned as maybe filling the long-man role.

OlerudOwned
Feb 28 2007 10:42 PM

Adkins had pretty good stuff during his one inning today. He had a good year last season. I'd say he's a good bet to start the year as a middle relief man, at least until someone better like Duaner can push him out.

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 01 2007 07:19 AM

Can't imagine Burgos doesn't make it.

Vic Sage
Mar 01 2007 05:22 PM

Burgos is young and has options, i think. So, unless he shows he's overcome his control problems and Sanchez and Padilla are both unable to start the season, he could well be sent down.

A Boy Named Seo
Mar 03 2007 10:53 AM

Joe Smith[url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/03032007/sports/mets/hes_no_average_joe_mets_kevin_kernan.htm?page=1] continues to impress[/url] and Guy Conti offers some philosophical insight. What's the difference between a swing-and-miss pitch and a put-away pitch?

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HE'S NO AVERAGE JOE

METS' SMITH MAKES MARK

March 3, 2007 -- JUPITER, Fla. - So I walk up to side-arming Joe Smith, and playing the part of the wise guy, say, "Joe Smith. That's the most common name in America."

"I've heard that my whole life, but I've never met another one," the Mets reliever answers with a smile, although he did admit to collecting all the Joe Smith basketball cards he could get his hands on and wore the jersey of the 6-foot-10 NBA forward when he was a kid .

Baseball's Joe Smith continues to make a name for himself. He had another strong outing yesterday in the Mets' 6-5 win over the Cardinals at Roger Dean Stadium. The Mets are taking it slow with the rehabbing reliever Duaner Sanchez and Smith's stock continues to rise as the come-from-nowhere story of the spring.

A year ago at this time Smith, 22, was playing college ball at Wright State. Now he is the right man in the right place. The right-hander throws first-pitch strikes, and, here's the key, pounds the strike zone low and gets batters to swing and miss at pitches that are in the strike zone.

That is a huge measuring stick for the Mets.

Not all strikes are created equal.

It's one thing for a batter to swing at a pitch out of the strike zone. You see that a lot in the minor leagues; that's why minor league strikeout statistics can be so misleading.

"Major league hitters don't swing at those pitches," explained Mets bullpen coach Guy Conti, Rick Peterson's right-hand man.

It's quite another for a batter to swing and miss at a strike. That is something the Mets watch closely.

"He looks to me that he is not intimidated at all being here," Conti said of Smith. "He throws the ball over the plate and he starts throwing ground ball after ground ball, that's what we need. I look at three things: swing-and-miss pitches in the strike zone, ground ball to fly ball ratio and a put-away pitch."

Smith has shown all three. He pitched the seventh inning yesterday and got a grounder to short, a strikeout looking, gave up a two-strike single on a high changeup and then froze Preston Wilson for strike three on a slider, his put-away pitch to right-handers. Smith's changeup is his put-away pitch to left-handers.

As Smith came to the dugout, Willie Randolph was the first to greet him with a congratulatory fist pound. It's too early for Randolph to get excited about any minor league pitcher, but the manager did say: "If he can attack the bottom of the [strike] zone he will get those ground balls naturally. I like what I see."

"Pound it, and ground it," is how Smith put it.

Here is your key statistic of the day, courtesy of Conti: "Major league hitters hit .190 at the bottom of the strike zone. That's why we want to keep that ball where they have the most trouble with it. We have a better chance of getting them out."

Smith is not intimidated, but sometimes he looks around and can't believe he's in the same clubhouse as Tom Glavine, Jose Reyes, Carlos Beltran, David Wright and Carlos Delgado. This is the same Joe Smith who was having a few chicken wings and a beer with friends, watching the Mets play the Cardinals last October in the NLCS. He gave up only one earned run in 20 innings last year with the Brooklyn Cyclones.

"It's crazy," Smith said. "Especially when I first got here, it was like, 'What am I doing?' I just tried to stay out of the big boys' way and stay low key."

On the mound, though, he attacks the hitters.

"It's hard to pick up his arm slot, and he gets ahead of you," Mets outfielder Ben Johnson said. "Then he throws that slider. He's got good stuff and he's a good kid, too."

Smith lives in Cincinnati. His pitching hero is Greg Maddux and he grew up a Cubs fan. He came up with the sidearm angle at Wright State, "goofing around in the bullpen one day" in 2004.

Now he's got a major league career in front of him


Frayed Knot
Mar 03 2007 11:06 AM

]Burgos is young and has options, i think


The one guy of the bullpen hopefuls who doesn't have options is Adkins, so he's the guy who either has to make the team or put at risk to be lost.

metirish
Mar 22 2007 11:37 AM

Duaner Sanchez was shut down this morning after throwing only 11 pitches from the mound, but he doesn't appear to have suffered a serious setback.

After his bullpen session was cut short, Sanchez was examined and later said the discomfort was caused by the "popping" of scar tissue. Apparently there is no structural damage, but the Mets have not decided when he will return to the mound.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/

Frayed Knot
Mar 22 2007 02:15 PM

IOW, even if this is good news (ie; just scar tissue) it's see ya in May at the earliest ... and Padilla probably not that quick.

MFS62
Mar 23 2007 09:27 AM

Vic Sage wrote:
Burgos ..... unless he shows he's overcome his control problems....

His control has been excellent. He has demonstrated the ability to hit bats on a regular basis.

Later

metirish
Apr 03 2007 11:50 AM

From reading articles about the Mets win Sunday night one of the things that seems prevalent is the surprise that Willie used Smith in the game....after Feliciano walked Aaron Miles leading off the eight that brought up Eckstein..various reports I have read said the situation begged for Aaron Heilman,but Willie went with Smith.

I liked the move and thought Smith did ok,actually I would not have questioned Willie if he had left him in after he walked Pujols to face Rolen.

Why the big deal that Willie used Smith,I wouldn't be surprised to see Burgos tonight.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 03 2007 11:54 AM

Smith got the grounder he needed, just found the hole. I guess the Pujols walk was a bit of a pitcharound.

metirish
Apr 03 2007 12:00 PM

Yes he did JD,and he did seem to pitch to Pujols too carefully ,I suppose one point I am wanting to make is that Randolph seems unafraid to get rookies in a game,to see what they are made of,but maybe I am giving Randolph too much credit.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 03 2007 12:02 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see Burgos either. He wouldn't be on the roster if they weren't going to use him.

It really depends on the situation. I don't see him starting the ninth with a one-run lead. But if the Mets are up or down by 6 or 7 runs, Willie would certainly be willing to use him.

Would he use him with a two-run lead in the 7th inning? I don't know. Maybe we'll find out.

cooby
May 06 2007 06:35 PM

metirish wrote:
Duaner Sanchez was shut down this morning after throwing only 11 pitches from the mound, but he doesn't appear to have suffered a serious setback.

After his bullpen session was cut short, Sanchez was examined and later said the discomfort was caused by the "popping" of scar tissue. Apparently there is no structural damage, but the Mets have not decided when he will return to the mound.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/



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Frayed Knot
May 06 2007 09:11 PM

Of course "popping of scar tissue" was the original diagnosis (guess) in March ... until it turned out to be a sperated bone which needed to be screwed back into place.

Nymr83
May 11 2007 05:00 PM

Always needing to fill space in the sports section after an off-day, today's Post has a Mota article that says next to nothing except that he should be ready to pitch when his suspension ends and that he's eligible to pitch in the minors (rather than extended spring i guess) once there are 16 games left on his suspension.

[url]http://www.nypost.com/seven/05112007/sports/mets/amazins_await_some_mota_help_mets_mark_hale.htm[/url]

I wish they'd have made mention of what his suspension was for, yeah we know, but anyone who doesnt should know.