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Benjamin Grimm Feb 19 2007 02:09 PM

The previous "all purpose TV thread" has been locked, so let's start another one... Tonight may be the final airing of Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. Next week it will be replaced on the schedule with The Black Donnellys (about a mobbed up Irish New York family, I think) and NBC says that the remaining episodes of Studio 60 will be aired "eventually." So barring some kind of miracle, it seems like Studio 60 is pretty much dead. I didn't like the show at first, but it's grown on me a bit. Given how highly it was anticipated, its apparent failure has to be one of the biggest surprises of the current TV season.

Frayed Knot Feb 19 2007 02:14 PM

The network's problem is that the show is so expensive to produce that, unless it draws killer numbers, it was essentially born on shakey ground.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 19 2007 03:00 PM

I may tune in to the Black Donnellys. That show is filmed in the 'hood.

Gwreck Feb 19 2007 07:19 PM

They fucked up our parking really badly, so I'm almost obligated to watch. From the promos, it looked like a miniseries though. If it's a whole series, maybe not.

metsmarathon Feb 19 2007 09:36 PM

is radioactive ted from heroes the gieco caveman?

metirish Feb 19 2007 09:42 PM

From NBC.com http://www.nbc.com/NBC_First_Look/shows/donnellys/

Nymr83 Feb 19 2007 11:46 PM

Frayed Knot wrote: The network's problem is that the show is so expensive to produce that, unless it draws killer numbers, it was essentially born on shakey ground. thats why reality shows are so popular with the networks, they are dirt cheap to make so even if they fail you get your $$ back

ScarletKnight41 Feb 20 2007 12:46 PM

I'm constantly amused by TV news programs that have live remote feeds at 10:00 or 11:00 at night from locations that have long since ceased being newsworthy. It seems very silly to broadcast via satellite just because they can do it, when a report from the studio would be just as informative.

sharpie Feb 20 2007 01:00 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 20 2007 01:44 PM

I pretty much never watch TV shows and have never seen most series. That being said, I did watch The West Wing and last night I did watch that Studio 60 show. I won't miss it.

Farmer Ted Feb 20 2007 01:20 PM

The Black Donnellys has the hot lesbian girl from The OC. I'll be watching the Fox Ratings Steamroller, aka IDOL. I said that about Geico caveman last night.

metirish Feb 20 2007 01:44 PM

Katie Couric is getting better,I like her,my GF has the complete five seasons of six feet under....great show.

iramets Feb 21 2007 05:14 AM

For the first time since the mid-1980s, I am completely TV-free. Not that I don'[t watch it at all, but I don't a "have" a show, not a single one. Only last year, I "had" the West Wing and ER and Boston Legal and a couple of others, but I don't know what happened, this year--nothing. Well, "Studio 60" happened, actually. I was so hyped for it, but the first episode sucked badly, and they went downhill from there, and--I dont know, I just freaked out. I was bored by ER's recurring plotlines, and I missed a few episodes of Boston Legal without recording them, and I found I wasn't missing much, and then I realized that now I have all this free time to myself. Also, I bought the first season of SFU on DVD, plus a few seasons of Curb Your Enthusiasm, and realized that was a much more enjoyable way to watch TV--my schedule, rewinding over complicated parts, rewatching good eps. Die, broadcast TV, die! It's all good.

metirish Feb 28 2007 07:15 AM

Did anyone watch The Black Donnellys,I was away and missed it...

Frayed Knot Feb 28 2007 07:19 AM

They're re-playing it on Thursday night. I gave it a whirl -- a bit convoluted if you ask me.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 28 2007 07:22 AM

I watched it. Nice production values. Entertaining. I'll watch again.

Vic Sage Feb 28 2007 08:12 AM

i thought BD was pretty solid... more of an edge than i thought it'd have on network tv. I loved seeing the back story on HRG on "Heroes"... was that Eric Roberts? What was with the Moe haircut? And Mr. Sulu has a bigger part in the conspiracy than we were lead to believe!

Benjamin Grimm Feb 28 2007 08:16 AM

I did notice Eric Roberts' name in the opening credits. I enjoyed the back story too. Really helped us understand the character and where he's been coming from. This was the first episode of Heroes to concentrate on one story line. No jumping to Hiro and Ando, or Nate and Peter, or Nicki and Jessica. The whole focus was on what was happening at Claire's house.

soupcan Feb 28 2007 09:19 AM

Law & Order - Watch all of them, regular L&O, SVU, CI. Rome on HBO - it's just great. Sex, violence - it's got it all! Seinfeld reruns at 7:30 and 11:00. They never get old. The Keith Hernandez two-parter 'The Boyfriend', was on recently. That one has it all - The Mets, homophobia, the JFK parody and George running screaming from the bathroom with his pants around his ankles yelling 'VanDerlay Industries! VanDerlay Industries!' 24 - I watch it simply because I started to but I'm not thrilled with it this season at all. It's completely ridiculous. Not that it hasn't always been but this year they've just gone completely haywire. I'm bummed because I chose to watch it over continuing to watch Heroes and now I feel ripped off. Deal or No Deal - I find this show very amusing. People just can't stop opening those freakin' briefcases. No amount of money is enough for them. The people who created this show are geniuses. American Idol - Have always disiked and avoided this show. However, Kelly Clarkson and Jennifer Hudson's (an Oscar winner!) success have made me pay a little more attention to it.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 28 2007 09:33 AM

I also think that this has been a sub-par season for 24. Maybe I would be enjoying this more if it was the second or third season. But the sixth time around, they're not doing anything all that fresh or new, and I feel like I've seen it all before. And I agree that Heroes has been more fun this year. Extras on HBO has also been very funny. And my favorite new show of the year is probably 30 Rock, which I hope gets renewed for next season. And I still love Lost.

RealityChuck Feb 28 2007 09:54 AM

Shows I watch regularly: House Bones My Name is Earl The Office CSI Numb3rs (God knows why. It hasn't been any good since the first season, before they turned it into CSI: Math.) The Dresden Files We've been watching a DVD of The Addams Family -- early episodes hold up very well, but after awhile, they become a bit tiresome. They weren't repeating jokes as often at the beginning. Morticia and Gomez are always good, and Lurch is great except when he's the focus of the plot. I'm still trying to convince my wife to watch my DVDs of Arrested Development.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 28 2007 10:05 AM

I forgot to watch the Donnellys and as usual with a new show, not sure if I can make that committment. My embarrassing regular viewing habits have regressed to: American Idol -- Not sure why I like this, or even if I like it, I just know I watch it w/ Wifey and we comment along with the panel. Project Runway/Top Chef/Top Design -- Definitely hooked into Bravo's Wednesday reality show, whichever it is, even though 'Runway' is by leaps and bounds the superior offering here. I'm giving "Top Design" a chance now, mostly based on the fun I've had watching the others -- it's probably the gayest of the 3, which is saying something (a recent episode included gratuitous shots of musclebound capenters with no shirts carrying lumber & power tools on the beach!). The contestants so far appear creepy, especially the Christmas Story kid all grown up and downright fucking scary, and the host wooden. Needs to improve. Amazing Race -- Irritating in its constant airport bickering scenes and lame "equalizer" tactics but I like the idea of cavorting in strange locales. Survivor -- Just because. Law & Order -- Non-appointment watching only. I like SVU most, and I'm least familiar with CI. I also enjoy 'Family Guy' and "American Dad' and sometimes. 'The Office'

Frayed Knot Feb 28 2007 12:43 PM

This is actually the first time I've ever peeked in on '24' That the long-time viewers here are saying it's less than what it was makes sense because while it's not bad - fast-food TV essentially - this half-season certainly isn't worthy of the media attention it kicked up in earlier seasons. My current lineup: - House (cracks me up) - CSI (reg recipe only) - Scrubs (just re-started) - ER (old habit mostly ... it has its up years and down) plus the occasional sprinkling of: - Earl (lost a bit of it's originality since it began) - Studio 60 while it lasted (I had mixed reactions) - Friday Night Lights (teen dramas aren't my thing but it's actually quite well done) Popular shows I've yet to see even once: - Survivor - Lost - any version of Law & Order - American Idol - virtually every other reality show

sharpie Feb 28 2007 12:50 PM

I have the same lineup as ira. Last year "The West Wing" and this year nothing except I have seen the first few episodes of the Sarah Silverman Program and I'm not sure why. Popular shows I've never seen: House CSI American Idol Survivor Lost 24 Heroes pretty much anything on HBO I did regularly watch Law & Order once upon a few seasons ago. I was at a friend's house this past weekend and they were all excited to watch "Monk." I didn't even really know that show existed. I still haven't seen it.

Nymr83 Feb 28 2007 12:59 PM

i found "the amazing race" to be unwatchable for the reason JD points out, why do i want to watch a race where everyone has to stop and wait for the stragglers to catch up? if i were running the show i'd tell everyone they had to collect 10 tokens around the united states, i'd give them the location (or the general area and clues as to the exact location) for all of them right at the beginning, a few thousand dollars in airfare or other travel expenses, and yell "go!"

Vic Sage Feb 28 2007 01:42 PM

Network: - HEROES (I'm a sucker for a good superhero story... or even a bad one.) - STUDIO 60 (while it lasted) and now BLACK DONNELLYS (for a while) - GREY'S ANATOMY (what can i say... I'm weak) - ER (my wife makes me watch it cuz i make her watch HEROES) - LAW & ORDER:SVU - i like Olivia and Elliot. - TWO and 1/2 MEN (i can't think of any other sitcom thats even remotely amusing) - AMERICAN IDOL (my daughter makes me watch it) - SIMPSONS (i only watch the reruns; its still the best show on TV) Cable: HBO: - ROME - awesome - SOPRANOS - if it ever comes back - ENTOURAGE - its coming back in April I miss CARNAVALE and DEADWOOD, and i just can't get into EXTRAS. BRAVO: - TOP CHEF - the only reality show that i actually enjoy... FOOD NETWORK: - IRON CHEF AMERICA - unless you count cooking shows... TLC: - WHILE YOU WERE OUT - ... or home improvement shows. - CLEAN SWEEP TNT / A&E: - LAW & ORDER - you can watch reruns of all the series on these channels. the great thing about the L&O franchise is that the shows are self-contained, not being reliant on the character development of the series regulars (though there is some), so you can watch any episode in any order in any series and still be thoroughly engrossed in good, solid storytelling. ESPN: - BASEBALL TONIGHT - i''m impatient for its return.

soupcan Feb 28 2007 02:24 PM

Vic Sage wrote: FOOD NETWORK: - IRON CHEF AMERICA - unless you count cooking shows.. My sister is a big fan of this show. She and I and our spouses were in Las Vegas last year for a surprise party for my dad and she had said that she wanted to check out this restaurant at the Hard Rock Hotel called 'Simon's Kitchen' because she and my bro-in-law had seen the chef from it on 'Iron Chef' and he 'won' and they really liked what he did. I've never seen the show but she told me that what they do is give each chef an ingredient and then they have a competition as to which chef can make the best dish. Is that accurate? My sister told us that the ingredient they used on that episode was ground beef and this guy chose to make an 'all-American hamburger' (Jen and I were raised to be big red meat fans). So we get there and hamburgers are not on the menu at all. Jen & Larry were so disappointed and mentioned this to the waiter. The waiter said that, no they did not serve hamburgers but the chef was there that night and he would ask him if he could make burgers for us. 2 minutres later the chef comes out, introduces himself - a very pleasent guy - and says that of course he will make burgers for us. He sends out a platter full of slider size burgers, awesome, awesome french fries and the absolute best fucking vanilla milkshake I've ever had. The night and the meal was a success and to top it off, Christina Ricci was sitting at the next table over and a big fat Robin Leach sauntered through the crowd with a plastic fantastic blonde on his arm. Vic Sage wrote: TLC: - WHILE YOU WERE OUT - ... or home improvement shows.. Yup. Love all of these as well. Design on a Dime, etc. on HGTV Vic Sage wrote: TNT / A&E: - LAW & ORDER - you can watch reruns of all the series on these channels. the great thing about the L&O franchise is that the shows are self-contained, not being reliant on the character development of the series regulars (though there is some), so you can watch any episode in any order in any series and still be thoroughly engrossed in good, solid storytelling. 100% agree. That's what I like most about the show - you don't need to know a damn thing about the characters at all. Each episode is simply a crime, an investigation, an arrest and a prosecution. Bam.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 28 2007 02:38 PM

The original IRON CHEF was a Japanese show which they may or may not still show on Food TV. They really set it up like a sporting event, with some extra fancy flourishes, and overall Japanese-ness that was off-the-charts. Fascinating, funny show. I don't think the USA version has that same feel. Re: WHILE YOU WERE OUT. If Andrew Dan-Jumbo would strike Evan Farmer in the face with a hammer, or at least cut off his arms and legs with a table saw, this would be a much more enjoyable show. Of the home-improvement shows I'm into the house-flipping ones now.

metsmarathon Feb 28 2007 02:52 PM

i just wish there were more flip-shows wherein the bungling flipper actually LOSES money. i'm tired of super-dumbass billy, who's never swung a hammer in his life, buys a dilapidated house in the wrong market, underbudgets huge renovations that'll price the house out of the market, discovers sever termite damage and disreputable contractors along the way, and still manages a $150k profit and an inclination to repeat the whole process with his cache of claimed lessons learned that we all know he will simply need to relearn the next time. there's just not enough collapse in the shows.

cooby Feb 28 2007 03:20 PM

soupcan wrote: [ I've never seen the show but she told me that what they do is give each chef an ingredient and then they have a competition as to which chef can make the best dish. Is that accurate? . Exactly right, often it's some kind of fruit or fish and they have to make a five course dinner. It's amazing what they come up with. Fish ice cream comes to mind. To tell you the truth, if someone broke into our house and stole our TV I'll bet it would take weeks for me to notice. However, when I do watch, I enjoy CSI (regular), Law and Order (except the Criminal Intent ones, he give me a headache) and sometimes Unwrapped or Good Eats. Although a little bit of Alton Brown can go a long way.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 28 2007 03:48 PM

metsmarathon wrote: i just wish there were more flip-shows wherein the bungling flipper actually LOSES money. i'm tired of super-dumbass billy, who's never swung a hammer in his life, buys a dilapidated house in the wrong market, underbudgets huge renovations that'll price the house out of the market, discovers sever termite damage and disreputable contractors along the way, and still manages a $150k profit and an inclination to repeat the whole process with his cache of claimed lessons learned that we all know he will simply need to relearn the next time. there's just not enough collapse in the shows. Yup. And it would be cool if the vacuous couples on House Hunters would for once admit on camera what a rotten decision they'd made to buy this home, how it turned into a nightmare money pit, especially after making the offer before getting an inspection. And, if Suzanne Wong got naked.

A Boy Named Seo Feb 28 2007 08:02 PM

A great cooking show is TLC's Take Home Chef. It's a simple premise - a hot Aussie chef picks up a girl (always a girl) in the supermarket and takes her back to her pad to cook for her and her famiily/boyfriend/husband. What makes the show so funny is the sexual tension. Some of it's real and some of its way exaggerated in the show's editing (they love to use shots of the girls looking at Chef Curtis like they want to sautee and eat him). The girls always want to "slip into something more comfortable" when they get home, which is mostly wanting to look good on TV after they were picked up at Wild Oats, but they way the show is cut, they make it look like they want to sexy up for Curtis. The show always cracks me up and the recipes are pretty good and most of the time not too difficult. I bet some of the boyfriends/hubby's aren't as thrilled when they actually see the episode. "Hey, love, wanna go back to your flat and I'll cook dinner for you?"

Johnny Dickshot Feb 28 2007 08:12 PM

I think he pixx up chixx at Gelson's Market, no? Wild Oats was the official Top Chef g-store this year. Idol tonite: Black Chicks 5, White Broads 0.

cooby Feb 28 2007 08:13 PM

Aw, she is cute

A Boy Named Seo Feb 28 2007 08:17 PM

Gelson's, that's it. We don't have those in the LBC. He picked up a girl at a Ralph's once, and this rock 'n roll drummer chick at an Asian market. Those seem to be rarities, though.

Johnny Dickshot Feb 28 2007 08:50 PM

Oh, maybe it was Wild Oats then. I thought Gelson's had an "exclusive" on this show but I haven't seen all of them. Where do you g-shop in the LBC? Ralphs? Vons? Albertsons?

metirish Feb 28 2007 08:59 PM

Watched CSI NY tonight and kinda liked it,still think Mac is a bit too dark or just plain fucking boring.....going to watch Charlie Rose now,he's never boring. agree on the flip this house complaint...

A Boy Named Seo Mar 01 2007 09:56 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Oh, maybe it was Wild Oats then. I thought Gelson's had an "exclusive" on this show but I haven't seen all of them. Where do you g-shop in the LBC? Ralphs? Vons? Albertsons? Yeah, those are the ones. Seems Von's (except for it's higher end cousin Von's Pavilion) is the worst of the 4. There's a Von's about a block from my apartment, but it's in an old, small building on the beach and it's worst grocery store I've ever been to. There's another north of that has a bad rap and gets called "the ghetto Von's", but that's not fair because the one on the beach is just as shitty, just in a better neighborhood. Albertson's and Ralph's seem about the same to me. On PCH, we've got Albertson's and Ralph's on one side, and across the street is a Wild Oats and a Trader Joe's. Right next door to Trader Joe's is Farm Boy, a strictly fresh fruits and veggies outfit. The Trader Joe's/Farm Boy duo is my preferred attack, but 1) the after-work crowd at TJ's are crazy so you have to go early, and 2) they inexplicably don't sell Perrier, which I love more than anything, so I end up at Ralph's anyway buying my snobby water. I like the quality of the cheeses (and quantity), veggies, and meats at Wild Oats and go there when the higher prices are worth beating some of the crowds. We're got two Trader Joe's and they're both always pretty feckin' crowded.

soupcan Mar 01 2007 10:29 AM

Excuse me - this is the TV Thread. Grocery store thread is in aisle 7.

A Boy Named Seo Mar 01 2007 11:00 AM

Right. Sarah Silverman's new show is crass and funny and getting better every week. The "Little Miss Rainbow" episode last week was great.

Centerfield Mar 01 2007 01:56 PM

I'm watching The Wire on DVD. It's good so far.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 01 2007 01:59 PM

="Centerfield"]I'm watching The Wire on DVD. It's good so far. Which season?

soupcan Mar 01 2007 02:25 PM

="Centerfield"]I'm watching The Wire on DVD. It's good so far. I've tried to watch that show but I can't follow it. The dialogue is completely beyond me. I had the same problem with Deadwood. Maybe I'm just stoopid.

Frayed Knot Mar 01 2007 02:45 PM

Does anyone actually watch 'Gunsmoke'? I don't mean anyone here (I assume the answer to that is No) but I mean anyone on the entire planet! I almost never watch those 'TV Land' or 'Nick at Night' channels - most of which are filled with shows I didn't watch the first time around - but I've noticed just from scanning by the channel guides that they seem to show Gunsmoke (also Bonanza) what seems like 10 times a day ... and I just can't imagine that there's still an audience for those shows. Bonanza must be 40+ years old at this point and Gunsmoke like 50!!

KC Mar 01 2007 02:54 PM

The Western Channel used to show two episodes of the black and white ver- sion of Gunsmoke every early evening not too long ago and I confess I have about a half dozen dvds of about 30 episodes. Good production for the time, decent (often hokey, of course) stories, a part of tv history. By the time it went color, it was no longer anything special, and I don't have the patience for it if I happen to flip upon it.

sharpie Mar 01 2007 03:17 PM

For a while it was the longest running show in the history of television but I never watched an episode. Bonanza, The Wild West West, Maverick -- all of those I would watch -- but not Gunsmoke.

Vic Sage Mar 01 2007 03:18 PM

I never liked GUNSMOKE or BONANZA, and i still don't. But as far as tv westerns go, HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL still holds up pretty well. I haven't seen Steve McQueen's WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE series in a long time, but i think it would still hold up, too. I'd also be curious to see BRANDED again. BAT MASTERSON is still worth a look ... if only for the theme song. But my all time favorite was THE WILD, WILD WEST... that is, of course, until DEADWOOD.

KC Mar 01 2007 03:31 PM

I guess it was too much for them to keep Deadwood up to specs another season or two, and they've at least promised a movie or two, but the show just kicked ass up and down the muddy thoroughfare. I can't wait for season three to be released on dvd.

sharpie Mar 01 2007 03:51 PM

The opening sequence of BRANDED was pretty thrilling when I was 8 years old.

Frayed Knot Mar 01 2007 08:18 PM

sharpie wrote: The opening sequence of BRANDED was pretty thrilling when I was 8 years old. I vaguely remember that too. It had the same sorta of cool-sounding theme song as "Have Gun Will Travel' which the kids in 'Stand By Me' thought was tough-enough sounding to sing while on their trek for dead body viewing. And, btw, I'm not knocking 'Gunsmoke' or wondering why it ever had an audience. (It was before my time and I don't think I ever saw a single episode). I'm just wondering why it STILL has an audience.

cooby Mar 01 2007 08:27 PM

I always like "The Guns of Will Sonnet" and "Alias Smith and Jones"

soupcan Mar 01 2007 08:31 PM

cooby wrote: I always like "The Guns of Will Sonnet" and "Alias Smith and Jones" Yeah, my grandma liked those too....

Johnny Dickshot Mar 01 2007 08:35 PM

Ka*PoW!

cooby Mar 01 2007 08:36 PM

I'll kapow him, right in the kisser

metirish Mar 06 2007 10:45 AM

Watched "The Black Donnellys" last night, I like it,the Tommy character is excellent. blog http://theblackdonnellys.blogspot.com/

TheOldMole Mar 26 2007 07:49 PM

I can't believe this is the end of Rome.

soupcan Mar 27 2007 08:18 AM

I know, but the last episode was very good.

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2007 02:45 PM

My nominee for the best use of music in a TV show goes to 'Scrubs'

metsmarathon Mar 27 2007 06:33 PM

smallville has good music too.

MFS62 Mar 28 2007 07:59 AM

Vic Sage wrote: But as far as tv westerns go, HAVE GUN, WILL TRAVEL still holds up pretty well. I haven't seen Steve McQueen's WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE series in a long time, but i think it would still hold up, too. I'd also be curious to see BRANDED again. BAT MASTERSON is still worth a look ... if only for the theme song. But my all time favorite was THE WILD, WILD WEST... that is, of course, until DEADWOOD. This is where I feel I have to jump in here and stress that despite our common feelings about old tv westerns, Vic and I are not related. (Or the same person) Incidentally, I remember an afternoon LIVE western show on one of the NY stations. It was telecast from Central Park (!!!) and every once in a while, you could see the top of a building over the trees, or hear the sound of an airplane. Anyone else remember that show? Later

Centerfield Mar 28 2007 08:15 AM

="soupcan"] ="Centerfield"]I'm watching The Wire on DVD. It's good so far. I've tried to watch that show but I can't follow it. The dialogue is completely beyond me. I had the same problem with Deadwood. Maybe I'm just stoopid. Did you try watching it in the middle of a season? I can't imagine following anything on this show unless you see it from the beginning. It's really good once you get your bearings. If you're bored, try getting the DVD's and watching it from season 1. In the middle of season 4 right now and I am still hooked.

attgig Mar 30 2007 09:59 AM

="Centerfield"] ="soupcan"] ="Centerfield"]I'm watching The Wire on DVD. It's good so far. I've tried to watch that show but I can't follow it. The dialogue is completely beyond me. I had the same problem with Deadwood. Maybe I'm just stoopid. Did you try watching it in the middle of a season? I can't imagine following anything on this show unless you see it from the beginning. It's really good once you get your bearings. If you're bored, try getting the DVD's and watching it from season 1. In the middle of season 4 right now and I am still hooked. Love the show. Got through all the episodes in like a week. Makes me love my city even more than i do now. =) I thought season 2 was the weakest season of all of them. And I'm really disappointed that 5 will be its final season.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2007 10:01 AM

It's never done really well in the ratings. I have to give HBO a lot of credit for going ahead with five seasons.

Methead Apr 02 2007 10:07 AM

I'm a little late to the Discovery Channel "Planet Earth" series, but I was watching it yesterday for about 3 hours on our new big-ass HDTV... awesome.

Centerfield Apr 11 2007 02:03 PM

Haley Scarnato is pretty. Melinda Dolittle can really sing but she looks like a hippo. I can't believe I'm actually watching a singing contest where Jennifer Lopez is coaching and Paula Abdul is judging.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 11 2007 02:06 PM

Am I the only one who watched The Sopranos on Sunday?

metirish Apr 11 2007 02:09 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Am I the only one who watched The Sopranos on Sunday? Nope,well I watched it on Monday and again Tuesday,I thought it was a great start,Tony is such a pig,have to love the way he gets back at the brother in law for the beating,classic Tony.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 11 2007 02:10 PM

Yeah, I enjoyed the episode too. During the first half hour or so I was imagining all of the angry fans who hate when things move slowly. It was a great setup for the second half, though.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 11 2007 02:19 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Am I the only one who watched The Sopranos on Sunday? I completely forgot and will try to see the ep before reading another word.

metirish Apr 11 2007 02:22 PM

In Episode 2 we will get a look at "Cleaver," the movie produced by Christopher and "Little Carmine" ,Michael Imperioli is my favorite actor on the show,by all accounts I have read David Chase is in fine form for the final season.

Johnny Dickshot Apr 13 2007 09:56 PM

OK, just watched it. Gut-wrenching. Made my hair hurt. Made the scene with the rapper early last year make a lot more sense. How great was it to see the wives take sides only after the guys left? Then greet them with more surprise than anything when both return. What they'll never know is worse and they like it that way.

Giant Squidlike Creature May 16 2007 02:38 PM

TV SUCKS!

TheOldMole May 16 2007 06:08 PM

Is Heroes really ending ending, or just ending for this season?

seawolf17 May 16 2007 06:11 PM

Hopefully just ending for this season. I believe they've already picked it up for next season.

Benjamin Grimm May 16 2007 06:28 PM

It will be back next year for 30 episodes. Six of the episodes will be standalone stories called Heroes: Origins in which a new character is introduced. At the end of the season, fans will vote on which one of the six new characters will become a regular in the following season. I don't care for the voting gimmick, but it's an interesting way to get more episodes and, thereby, fewer reruns or skipped weeks during the TV season.

metirish May 21 2007 12:48 PM

From the useless information file..... An installment of "The Big House: Prisons In America," seen last week on the Crime Channel, featured New York's Auburn Correctional Facility. The narrator pointed out that the same make of seats installed in the maximum security penitentiary's auditorium are found in Shea Stadium. Phil Mushnick NY Post.

HahnSolo May 21 2007 03:26 PM

I hope there aren't any fat inmates.

seawolf17 May 21 2007 08:02 PM

Re: Heroes DAMN. Helluva show.

metirish May 23 2007 11:24 AM

Watched a fascinating documentary last night about Dan Johnston,musician and artist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Johnston http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil_and_Daniel_Johnston The Devil and Dan Johnston. You might not have heard of him but probably have heard his music somewhere along the line,or seen his art.

Benjamin Grimm May 23 2007 12:02 PM

The season finale to Heroes left me disappointed. Yes, all the characters were assembled in "Kirby Plaza" for the final confrontation with Sylar, but most of them didn't really contribute to the victory. Nathan came and saved the city. Hiro showed up and finished off Sylar exactly like it happened in that comic book illustration that they've been showing us for months. I guess the twist was that Claire was spared from having to kill Peter, thanks to Nathan's sacrifice. But that means that Claire didn't really have to be there. Neither did Micah and Nikki and D.L. and Matt and Bennett. The storytelling in the preceding episodes was fun and interesting, and I enjoy the show, but when you have a lot of setup that setup should contribute to the conclusion. The best thing from "Chapter 23" was the preview of the second season. It looks like they're going in a completely different direction for the next storyline, which is a great idea. They need to avoid the trap that 24 built for itself, where every season is essentially the same as the one before it.

Frayed Knot May 23 2007 12:29 PM

Medical shows that have used some version of Leonard Cohen's 'Hallelujah' as poignant mood music during an episode: - House - Scrubs - ER

metsmarathon May 23 2007 12:55 PM

so we're assuming that sylar is dead? then who/what dragged him into the sewers at the end? i was looking forward to nathan being the foil against which peter would play next year. since i'm not entirely convinced that sylar is dead, i'm looking at the possibility of a whole nother season of sylar's antics, with no nathan. on the bright side, even if sylar is alive, there's a badder badass out there, the dude who can see you if you think of him. am i alone in thinking that george takei is the kinsei dude that hiro's legends tell of? (if sylar's alive, then we've just got ourselves a rerun of highlander - there can be only one!!!) and really, why not just shoot peter in the heart, or bop him good on teh head? its been shown that both radioactive ted and peter will stand down when knocked unconscious - why the drama?

Benjamin Grimm May 23 2007 01:08 PM

I hope Sylar's dead. The show will be better off if there's a different bad guy each season. The guy who sees you when you're sleeping and knows when you're awake could be that guy. I don't really care who it is, but I want it to be someone different.

HahnSolo May 23 2007 01:23 PM

2-hour season finale of Lost tonight. The show really struggled through the first half of season three, but in my opinion has really picked up steam in the last 10 episodes. Lost boards are abuzz about what is going to happen. Apparently the producers let slip that there would be multiple deaths in this episode. They've set it up for us to believe Charlie will be one of the casualties, but that may be misdirection.

TheOldMole May 23 2007 01:27 PM

I don't think Nathan's dead.

Benjamin Grimm May 23 2007 01:34 PM

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned about Heroes, and that only occurred to me about a week ago, is that Peter and Nathan Petrelli are Italian Americans, but aren't portrayed with the usual stereotypes: They're not mobsters like Tony Soprano and Paulie Walnuts, and they're not simple-minded goofballs like Joey on Friends and virtually every character Tony Danza has played. They're Americans who happen to have an Italian last name. And that's true of just about every Italian American I've known in my life. So good for the Heroes guys for naming them Petrelli instead of Wilson or Harris or something like that. And no, I'm not convinced that Nathan is dead either. He could have flown away from Peter before he exploded. Peter, too, by the way is invulnerable. Maybe his atoms will reassemble themselves like the Sandman's do. I'm guessing that won't happen, but it can't be rules out.

Willets Point May 23 2007 01:37 PM

Growing up in Stamford, Italian-Americans pretty much represented the entire spectrum of humanity to me. But that's what happens when you grow up in a lonely Irish-American houselhold in a sea of people with Italian ancestry.

Methead May 23 2007 09:59 PM

Lost.