Forum Home

Master Index of Archived Threads


NY COMIC CON...

Vic Sage
Feb 23 2007 11:22 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 23 2007 11:27 AM

...starts today, at the Javits center.

In attendance: Stephen King, Wes Craven, Kevin Smith, Stan Lee, Jim Steranko, Neal Adams, Jeff Smith, George Perez, JM Strazinski, Carmine Infantino, Peter David, and many others too numerous to mention... and the cheerleader from HEROES!

http://www.nycomiccon.com/app/homepage.cfm?moduleid=2920&appname=100453&campaignid=42917&iUserCampaignID=26291579

Yancy Street Gang
Feb 23 2007 11:23 AM

Sounds pretty cool. Claire, the indestructible cheerleader is also going to be there.

I read in the Daily News that tickets are very hard to come by.

Vic Sage
Feb 23 2007 11:28 AM

I got a "professional" pass from a friend who owns a bookstore, so i'm going as a "buyer", even though my wife won't let me buy anything.

Vic Sage
Feb 23 2007 11:33 AM

its kind of pathetic... a 45-year old fanboy, waiting in line to get sketches and autographs from Gene Colan, Frank Brunner, Rich Buckler and Carmine Infantino.

Yancy Street Gang
Feb 23 2007 11:51 AM

Rich Buckler! What's he doing these days? He was the Fantastic Four artist when I first started reading the title back in 1973. At the time I didn't realize it, but when I look at those issues now he was very obviously copying Kirby's style. (And he even copied some exact poses of the Thing from some of Kirby's earlier issues.)

I assume he's found his own style by now. I wonder what it looks like.

I also remember Herb Trimpe, years after his long run on Incredible Hulk, did some work on some other title and his style was looking more like Todd McFarlane than his earlier style, which was probably also heavily influenced by Jack Kirby.

It's a shame that so few artists, back then at least, felt free to do their own thing.

ScarletKnight41
Feb 23 2007 12:26 PM

Vic - I'm sure that Impulse2 will want to accompany you to next year's Comic Con.

seawolf17
Feb 23 2007 01:24 PM

Claire's going to be there?!? That's why tickets are so hard to come by. Nothing against Stan Lee and all (who had a neat cameo on Heroes the other night), but this is Claire.

Farmer Ted
Feb 23 2007 02:33 PM

VICTORY!!!

TheOldMole
Feb 23 2007 11:38 PM

Save the cheerleader...save the world.

TheOldMole
Feb 27 2007 08:50 PM

There was a dog in the barbershop I go to, who looked just like Mr. Muggles.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 05 2007 11:11 AM

So, Vic, how was it?

Vic Sage
Mar 05 2007 12:42 PM

As it turned out, i only went Friday afternoon.

with a "pro" pass, i was able to go from 12-4pm, before the show opened to the public. This made it easy to wander the hall, check out all the booths, pick up free stuff, and still have time to go to some panels and artists alley.

I got Rich Buckler to sign a color xerox of his DEMON HUNTER character (from Atlas!). I considered bringing my Astonishing Tales 25 (1st Deathlok) for him to sign, but i just decided not to bring anything with me. I also waited to get Neal Adams to sign (he's a jerk), and i waited a bit for Brian Bolland, but then moved on because he was doing individual sketches. I had planned to hook up with Peter David at some point (he's a friend), but he didn't come to the con until later that day or Saturday.

The only thing i bought was a graphic novel of "Y:The Last Man", which is a series i'd heard about. It was excellent.

I had intended to stick around friday nite to see Jeff Smith ("Bone") and Stan the man, but i was already exhausted and the crowds got to be too much.

I had also planned to go on Saturday to see Kevin Smith, but it was just too damned cold out, and my kids didn't want me to go. Anyway, i'll be going to I-Con on the 24th, so i'll get my fill then. Harlan Ellison is scheduled, which is always fun.

Edgy DC
Mar 07 2007 10:54 AM

Ddi you hear any buzz about this?

Shocking event for Captain America
POSTED: 10:05 a.m. EST, March 7, 2007


(spoiler below)
























NEW YORK (CNN) -- He fought and triumphed over Hitler, Tojo, international Communism and a host of supervillains, but he could not dodge a sniper's bullet.

Comic book hero Captain America is dead.

After close to 60 years in print, Marvel Comics has killed off Steve Rogers, aka Captain America, one of its most famous and beloved superheroes amid an already controversial story line, "Civil War," which is pitting the heroes of Marvel's universe against one another.

In the comic series, Rogers was to stand trial for defying a superhero registration law passed after a hero's tragic mistake causes a 9/11-like event.

Steve Rogers eventually surrenders to police. He is later mortally wounded as he climbs the courthouse steps.

Marvel says the comic story line was intentionally written as an allegory to current real-life issues like the Patriot Act, the War on Terror and the September 11 attacks.

"Every child knew about 9/11," says Dan Buckley, president of Marvel Comics. "If [he] could see a TV he knew what 9/11 was. The other similarities [to] things going on are just part of storytelling."

It was a violent and strange end for an American hero.

Captain America first appeared in 1941, just as the United States entered World War II. He was a symbol of American strength and resolve in fighting the Axis powers, and later Communism.

As originally conceived by creators Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, Rogers was a man born before the Great Depression in a very different America. He disappeared after the war and reappeared only recently in the Marvel timeline. For a superhero many thought perfect, it was perhaps a fatal flaw for "Cap," as he became known.

"He hasn't been living in the modern world and the world does move," says Marvel Editor-in-Chief Joe Quesada.

Quesada said he wanted to readers find their own meaning in Cap's end.

"There is a lot to be read in there. But I'm not one who is going to tell people, this is what you should read into it, because I could look into it and read several different types of messages," he told CNN.

Still, one has to wonder: Is Captain America really dead? Comic book characters have routinely died, only to be resurrected when necessary to storylines.

Joe Quesada agrees -- but said times are different now.

"There was period in comics where characters would just die and then be resurrected. And the death had very little meaning and the resurrection had very little meaning," he said. "All I ask of my writers is if you're going to kill a character off, please let that death have some meaning in the overall scope of things."

Besides, he said, there are other important questions left unanswered.

"What happens with the costume? And what happens to the characters that are friends and enemies of Cap?" Quesada said with a smile. "You're going to have to read the books to find out."

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 07 2007 11:08 AM

I found out about it in the Daily News this morning. It got big coverage on page 3!

I'm sure Cap will be back. Very few characters stay dead in comics, and none of Captain America's stature. They'll sell a lot of books because of his death, and a couple of years from now they'll sell a lot of books because of his comeback.

You missed an opportunity here. You could have created a thread called "Steve Rogers is dead!"

It would have been interesting to see everyone's reactions.

Edgy DC
Mar 07 2007 11:23 AM

Too cruel.

i assume it'll take less than a year for somebody else to take on his costume, powers, and titles.

Vic Sage
Mar 07 2007 01:13 PM

while cap was never one of my faves, this heavy-handed media manipulation happens everytime they kill off a major character, only to have him come back in a year or so. They even brought Hal Jordan back, and now he's a good guy again despite, you know, killing all the other GLs.

the only major player i can think of that never came back with Starlin's CAPTAIN MARVEL, who died of cancer in one of the best graphic novels ever.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 07 2007 02:14 PM

Yes, Captain Mar-Vell is the biggest I was able to think of as well.

But he's not nearly as big as Captain America.

Simply put, it will eventually cost Marvel too much money to keep Cap dead. Sooner or later they're going to want to do a Captain America movie (set it in World War II with Bucky, Namor, and the Original Human Torch and Toro and I'm THERE on opening night!) and when that happens, they'll want to have a line of comics to sell as well.

Vic Sage
Mar 08 2007 03:02 PM

there will be a captain america... but the only question is whether it will be Steve Rodgers, with all his history, or some new standard-bearer.

will it be a retcon or a reboot?

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 08 2007 03:06 PM

What has US Agent been up to these days?

My guess is that Steve Rogers will be on the shelf for a while, like Hal Jordan was. But he'll be back sooner or later. Maybe Dr. Strange will go rescue his shade from the netherworld, or something like that.

But I agree. Somebody else will be wearing the uniform and carrying the shield for a year or two.

I'd volunteer, but I once had an allergic reaction to Super Soldier Serum.