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| iramets Mar 25 2007 04:04 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 25 2007 04:18 PM |
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Omar gawd! This guy shouldn't do interviews. He either doesn't know anything (which I doubt) or he can't say "I don't know" or "We haven't made up our minds yet." All he does is gives these meaningless, maundering, meandering, tortuous answers to relatively straight-forward questions. Example: Keith asks him "What do you do about Milledge? Do you take him north?" Either "I don't know" or "Thinking about it" would suffice but instead he says something like ""Well, you never want to keep a young guy who needs to be playing regularly sitting on your bench, and we're hoping for a good year from Sean Green, so we might send Milledge down, unless we come north with only 11 pitchers, which we could do since we don't need a fifth starter right away, so we could keep Milledge, except that someone like Johnson could be better in the fifth outfielder slot...." and on and on and on. I mean, I understand that all those possibilities (and several others) are in the mix, but could you maybe squeeze an answer in there, Omar? Or say something to indicate you don't have an answer? This is annoying, and it suggests that Omar hasn't really sorted any of this stuff out, which he probably has. If you ask me if I think it's going to rain, I'll tell you Yes or No or "I don't know" not "Well, Janice Huff said it could rain last night, but when I got up this morning Dave Price said it wouldn't, so I looked outside and it looked nasty, but the Times said it would blow over by the time I left the house, and you don't want to carry an umbrella all day for nothing, but maybe I could take some unnecessary junk out of my backpack and fit a little fold-up job in there, except if it does rain, then I can't put it in there anymore because I'll get water all over my papers, so I'm better off carrying a big umbrella, or maybe I should wear a slicker..." As I write this Milledge gets HBPed, makng Omar's decision for him maybe. He mght have something broken in his right hand....
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| Nymr83 Mar 25 2007 04:17 PM |
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i thought Omar was brilliant, i'd rather hear about the organization's thought process without a decision than hear "we havent made a decision yet."
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| Kid Carsey Mar 25 2007 04:18 PM |
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I was going to start a thread before because when he was going over the Other than that, I think it was a fine interview. His English could be a little ira: >>>This is annoying, and it suggests that Omar hasn't really sorted any of this stuff out, which he probably has.<<< Do you never tire of the double speak? I'm annoyed, Omar ain't doin' his job, but he probably is. Ug.
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 04:24 PM |
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Not double speak at all. I think he knows more than he implies he knows, which is just about nothing. Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying now? How about now? Now? You guys realize that Omar just takes five minutes to say what he could say in five seconds? Did you learn a damned thing, nymr, that you didn't know already from Omar's entire interview? What a waste of my time and energy listening to him. The Mets should keep this guy locked up in a steel-reinforced dungeon, rather than let him speak in public. He was even worse on where Wright should bat in the order. I mean, talk about nuh-thing. The possibility that he thinks on the level he expresses his thoughts is terrifying.
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 04:32 PM |
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Maybe I've just been hearing too much of this stuff from the White House in recent days. You know what I;m saying? You know, it's like this: when someone has nothing to contribute, but inserts all sorts of words to show that he does have something to say, only he doesn't, but he keeps repeating the nothing, then I start to think he's maybe not so bright, or not so honest, or he shouldn't be on such a long leash, if you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying? I hope so, because I don't know what I'm saying, I'm just trying to repeat myself a lot so it looks like I have something to say when in reality I've got nothing, only I'm a little too dim a bulb to realize I'm making an asshole out of myself by repeating the nothing instead of doing the smart thing which prolly would have been to shut up about twelve sentences ago, or better yet not to have started this thread in the first place, instead of yammering on like this because it just pisses people off. Do you know what I'm saying?
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| Kid Carsey Mar 25 2007 04:45 PM |
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I'm inclined to say you have blinders on, which you could just as easily say We should have a quick open-entry song parody contest this week to the tune
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| cooby Mar 25 2007 04:48 PM |
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| Kid Carsey Mar 25 2007 04:55 PM |
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cooby adds a new entry into the definition of phwam.
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| metsmarathon Mar 25 2007 05:23 PM |
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yes, because how a manager responds to an in-game interview regarding an issue that maybe hasn't been fully resolved yet is always the clearest portal into the true depth of his abilities. or, perhaps, he realizes in some small way that "yes" "no" "not yet" and "i don't know" make for really shitty tv, and/or really awkward conversation.
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| Nymr83 Mar 25 2007 05:36 PM |
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i learned that in looking into wright batting 2nd the Mets care about the statistical reasons for doing so, including getting the better hitter more plate appearences (a rather obvious thing that was roundly ignored by baseball people until the last few years) they care about getting wright to hit the other way with the 1st baseman holding at first, omar recognizes that loduca's inflated obp was due not to good eye but an inflated ba, they recognize that something may need to change when alou doesnt play. so yeah i did learn.
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 06:40 PM |
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My point is that you learn much more about the Mets' thinking from reading this website, or reading the newspapers, than you ever would from Omar's or Willie's interviews. The only thing I ever learn from their interviews is "No one could possibly be as stupid they're pretending to be," and I learned that long ago. Coobs--it's tough making fun of someone for making fun of someone. If I'm belaboring the point, you think you're informing me that I'm belaboring the point if the point I'm belaboring is how Omar and Willie belabor the point? But you go right ahead--it don't bother me none, and it keeps KC happy.
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| Kid Carsey Mar 25 2007 07:17 PM |
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I seriously doubt cooby posts to please me. I just disagree with you, ira. Today, last year, the chief umpire years, the
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 07:19 PM |
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Now, let me get this straight: before you heard Omar saying so, you assumed that the Mets didn't care about statistic-based reasoning? Wow. And I thought I was cynical and dismissively nasty about Omar's intelligence. You surpass me, sir, by several lengths, if that's the assumption you were working with. I mean that's a giant-sized economy pack of Sheer Dumb you're laying on the poor man. To be a MLB GM and to care not a whit about statistics and what kind of an edge they can give your team--you boggle the mind. I'll give you some credit here--I think you're just pretending to have learned that from Omar this afternooon. I think you knew that Omar used stats all along but were just saying this was news to you to get a rise out of me. Correct?
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| vtmet Mar 25 2007 07:23 PM |
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I kind of like the inkling that Omar has a little bit of "Columbo" in him (playing a little dumb to throw people off)...and after the media/rumormill circus of the SP/BV empire, it's kind of refreshing to be left a little in the dark...when other teams know too much of your plans, it makes it easier for them to scout you...I also think that he knows a little more about when Alou/Valentin sit than he admits to as well..
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 07:26 PM |
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Could we get a show of hands here, folks? Who didn't know quite well, befpre hearing it from Omar, that when Alou is out of the lineup, the Mets may need to juggle the lineup? (The operative word there is "may," as per nymr's correct paraphrase of Omar.) Can I see the hands of those who thought that when Alou is out of the lineup, the Mets will definitely need to keep their batting order identical? Anyone? Bueller?
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 07:31 PM |
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Tell me, vtmet, if we can make such on-the-money guesses about the Mets' plans here (as we often can), don't you think the other teams' GMs, who are not doing such analytic guessing in their spare moments but rather as their full-time job, can also do such guessing, perhaps with even more accuracy? Besides, I'm not really calling on them to be more informative--I too like the team clamming up (mainly because I don't get any benefit from their yammering, and would rather hear Gary and Keith and Ralph, or the robins chirping outside my window for that matter.) I just want them to clam up more efficiently, in the interest of livelier air time.
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| vtmet Mar 25 2007 08:20 PM |
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After the crappy "in game" interviews that NESN has been doing with the RedSox, I enjoyed Omar's interview...I thought that he was informative without being too informative..and kept info back without any "no comment" type of responses...While his public speaking skills come off as a 3rd grader, I think that he knows a lot more than he's showing...
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 08:27 PM |
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I thought this was NOT exactly what Omar said, actually. They don't care about GETTING Wright to hit to right field--he already does that a lot. I thought he said that Wright uses the entire field so he'd do quite well with the big gap on the right side--a fairly elementary point that almost anyone here who's watched Wright bat the last few years would understand immediately. In fact, I'd be astonished if there's anyone on this web site who didn't know that Wright is a strong hitter to the opposite field. I think the people who've been arguing to move Wright to the #2 hole for years here have made this very point several times, if not several times per month. Did this really edify you? You must not be paying much attention, then. But back to vtmet's point--I'd go further than just arguing that the Mets should not give away information in public. I'd say that they should strategically give away bits of misleading information, or disinformation. Say they decided that Chan Ho Park is useless: rather than just release him, say they decided to bring him north, and hint (as Omar did) that they'll use him in long relief and if a starter gets injured, he'll fill in for him. In reality, since Omar's already decided that Park just can't pitch in MLB any more, he's just trying to entice some other GM into thinking that park is more valuable than he, in fact is. If this ploy gets the Mets a warm body from some dumb GM's pitching-desperate team, than that's fine, well worth the price of my listening to this idiotic glurge. Problem is, that you're willing to credit Omar with brilliance if his assessment turns out totally correct (as above) or totally incorrect. In an alternative scenario, Omar brings Park north (thinking "this guy totally can't pitch") but Park proves him wrong. Getting an emergency start, he throws a shutout, and goes on to win 20 games. In that case, you'll credit Omar, not for the attempted fake-out, but for the brilliance of seeing talent in Park despite a disastrous spring. I prefer not to take anything they say very seriously, and judge them based on what I see with my own two eyes.
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| Kid Carsey Mar 25 2007 08:40 PM |
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Let's pick a reputable GM, say, John Schuerholz ... Does he tell Braves' fans during broadcasts what the team is up to? I mean, Hate is dumb.
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 08:42 PM |
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Well, he can speak in complete sentences, for one thing. Complete sentences are good. I don't actually know what other teams' GMs, like Schuerwhatzit, say on the radio. I know Phillips spoke more intelligently and insightfully than Omar. And that Duquette often sounded as if he knew some things. Theo Epstein sounds positively brilliant compared to Omar. Brian Cashman sounds about as uninformative as Omar, but a whole lot smarter. Are you really arguing that Omar sounds about as articulate as other teams' GMs? If you are, I think you are either wrong or you haven't listened enough to other teams' GMs.
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| Nymr83 Mar 25 2007 08:50 PM |
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no, you learn more about what the media thinks their thinking is (or what they want it to be.)
plenty of organizations didn't care, they say "ooo he's fast lets lead him off" or "ooo he's slow, must be a 5/6 hitter" they'll take a guy like Wright and stereotype him as a 5 hitter, and then they'll bat some total clown 2nd, ignoring the fact that they could be giving the BETTER hitter more ABs.
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| iramets Mar 25 2007 09:03 PM |
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