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Johnny Dickshot Mar 26 2007 08:32 AM

I've been trying to re-do the mbtn.net site for about 4 years, and still need to re-do it. Pros want too much $$ to do it, and I don't have the time or skill. But I have a plan now. As a first step in that plan, I went out and got a new domain & server and whipped up a quickie wordpress page that I just published last night. The old site is still where it is. Eventually, I'll move all the old content to the new platform and the new platform to the old address. Meantime behind the scenes I'm working on a new database that will make querying the names and numbers easier and that will also become part of the new site. I got a cool new logo too. Tell your friends [url]http://www.metsbythenumbers.com/

soupcan Mar 26 2007 09:02 AM

Karl would be proud. Much luck with the movin' and shakin'.

seawolf17 Mar 26 2007 09:05 AM

Looks good, and I've linked you to my blog.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 26 2007 09:11 AM

I'm still linked to whatever they pre-link you to in a wordpress dummysite. But this whole new world of browser-based editing is awesome (ly bad for my productivity at work).

Benjamin Grimm Mar 26 2007 09:16 AM

It does look good. Nice job! I don't think I understand what you're plans are regarding the two domain names, though. Ultimately, will only one of them survive? Or are you planning on having two parallel web sites? I've thought at times about revamping the UMDB, but I don't imagine I'll do it any time soon. I seem to instead be slowing evolving it. Every once in a while I'll take one of the older and mustier pages and make it look like one of the fresher and newer pages. I don't think a full overhaul is in the cards. Good luck with your new and improved look, though. (And thanks for the shout out too.) I'm looking forward to seeing what comes next.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 26 2007 09:23 AM

I just didn't want to disappear completely while I destroy the old site, and since I'm also moving to a new server (and still have a couple months left on the old one), left the old site up rather than change it suddenly. I guess I will run the sites with parallel names once all the work is thru. I will actually geet a third domian to do secret surgery on the new new site. For that I am learning Drupal (less of a blog than wordpress, lot more capability).

metirish Mar 26 2007 11:05 AM

[quote="seawolf17":3mmdtdfo]Looks good, and I've linked you to my blog.[/quote:3mmdtdfo] Nice work JD,is that the new forever look of the front page,or something like that or will the pros change it?,I liked the old one with the color and the picture at the bottom with the uniform numbers,plus the links on the left seem a better fit...but maybe I just need to get used to it. seawolf what is your blog?

seawolf17 Mar 26 2007 11:53 AM

Link's on the "www" icon at the bottom of my posts. It's something of an unofficial work blog, which means I can basically spout off on whatever I want -- as long as it's roughly either campus- or admissions-related -- and post links to college advice from ninjas. http://sbuchris.blogspot.com

Edgy DC Mar 26 2007 02:20 PM

Good for Karl Ehrhardt. I thought Bazooka was mine, dammit.

Kid Carsey Mar 26 2007 06:11 PM

I love the old look, that site kicks total ass. I'm not big on the generic blog look. I'm not big on blogs period, but time marches on .... best of luck with the new venture.

cooby Mar 26 2007 06:44 PM

Looks nice!

Johnny Dickshot Mar 26 2007 06:45 PM

But it was Such. A. Pain. In. The. Ass. To. Manage. Seeing as I can't afford a designer I'm sure the site will take on the crappy home-made feel of the old one in no time.

Kid Carsey Mar 26 2007 07:10 PM

Creative people are often hard on themselves, I guess. That site is anything but crappy home-made looking.

G-Fafif Mar 27 2007 08:53 PM

Old site kicks ass. New site is polishing its boots to do some behind-bashing of its own. Uh, that means I like the new one, too. Good luck with the transition. As ever, you've made the numbers work for you.

Rockin' Doc Mar 28 2007 04:51 AM

Best of luck with the move. I hope the transition goes as smoothly as possible for you.

A Boy Named Seo Mar 28 2007 10:38 PM

That is a killer logo. I think the new site's just fine, man. The content's what sets it apart anyway so if it's clean, functional, and easy to maintain, then great for everyone.

metsguyinmichigan May 11 2007 06:50 PM

I must be a spazz. How do you create a user name and password to be able to leave comments? I LOVE that logo!

Johnny Dickshot May 11 2007 08:23 PM

No, I'm the Spazzzz. I have no idea how to leave comments, unless you happen to be set up already at a wordpress site. The problem was, some spam-machines found the site and there were like a hundred comments popped up overnight, from the same lab that made m.e.t.b.o.t. I believe. Anywhoo. No clue. The good news is, the new new new site is making some behind the scenes progress. This is not a wordpress site but a drupal site, coming online in a couple weeks. Will look and work better.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 27 2008 03:06 PM

Lookin' good, man.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 27 2008 07:14 PM

Wow, first guy to find it. I am just getting it "live" now ... some work still to be done.

A Boy Named Seo Jan 27 2008 07:40 PM

I'm lazy and never changed my old bookmark for it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 27 2008 08:37 PM

Tell me, did it just turn all blue? How do you fix that?

Nymr83 Jan 27 2008 09:06 PM

want to move this to the baseball forum?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 27 2008 09:13 PM

Not yet. Hood is still up. But if anybody wants to help out try leaving a comment or something. So far I know the search ain't working, and you still can't generate numbers by date, though it looks like that can be accomplished soon. Any other suggestions, thoughts prayers whatever, lmk

metirish Jan 28 2008 07:41 AM

All blue with only a 23 skidoo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 28 2008 07:44 AM

It's all blue for you now? What kind of browser/machine are you using? address is [url]http://www.mbtn.net

metirish Jan 28 2008 07:53 AM

Cool it's working now, I was clicking the link up top. I can't sign in though and when I tried to request a new password it didn't recognize me, either by email or even my user name...metirish.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 28 2008 07:57 AM

Yes, I have to fix the registration. I re-directed the metsbythenumbers.com address to the new site last night but it went all kerflooey. I think I might have to destroy that site then re-connect it, not sure, but it should work at either address eventually.

metirish Jan 28 2008 08:05 AM

So I should just be patient in regards to logging in, great to have it back. I just found out that #38 has been issued 34 times, some players more than once but only one time has a non-pitcher worn it.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 28 2008 08:09 AM

Try it now

metirish Jan 28 2008 08:57 AM

Can't sign in, you know I should wait till I am home because this browser is rubbish.

Kong76 Jan 28 2008 03:47 PM

I was able to register and sign in, but I get a message something like "the comments form is closed" so I can't post.

themetfairy Jan 28 2008 04:29 PM

[quote="KC":33hx49tv]I was able to register and sign in, but I get a message something like "the comments form is closed" so I can't post.[/quote:33hx49tv] Maybe you've been banned....

Kong76 Jan 28 2008 05:01 PM

That hadn't occurred to me. Ouch.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 28 2008 05:44 PM

Thanks, I'll try to fix that. It's weird, at first new users had permission to turn it into their own porno site, so I closed the gates quick.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 28 2008 05:54 PM

Oh, I see what happened. Kace you signed up at the old new site. I'm talking about the new new site. They'll be the same the next time you log in prolly.

metirish Jan 28 2008 06:26 PM

I created a new account on the new site and have no problems.

Kong76 Jan 28 2008 06:31 PM

Which url do you prefer to be up top here?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 30 2008 07:32 AM

Doesn't matter anymore they all point to mbtn.net. I am very relieved to finally have something back up and if I may so myself, it looks frickin great.

AG/DC Jan 30 2008 07:39 AM

Good. Now fix your avatar. This place still has standards.

Rockin' Doc Jan 30 2008 04:27 PM

Low ones, but standards nonetheless.

DocTee Jan 30 2008 07:05 PM

Nice plug for MBTN on Uniwatch today: [url]http://www.uniwatchblog.com/

AG/DC Feb 01 2008 09:49 AM

So where is the astute wording?

seawolf17 Feb 01 2008 09:59 AM

Advance copies of the book? Let's all be there!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 01 2008 11:10 AM

[quote="AG/DC":1tc7is4v]So where is the astute wording?[/quote:1tc7is4v] In my pants. Want some? Jeez.

AG/DC Feb 01 2008 12:04 PM

It wasn't meant to dog the blogs. I just wanted to know if the essays about the characteristics of each number were still accessaible.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 01 2008 08:39 PM

You can go to your book store for them. Not really. I guess the plan is to rebuild the text gradually by linking the "player" and "number" entries back to the archived and newly occurring updates, and vice-versa, and to address the players over time by adding text and photos to them. A few guys already have a sentence or two on them. My main goal here was to organize the data to get to a point at which I could address the written content. The old essays, which when written in 1998 sort of captured their moment, had IMO long become awkward with new bits bolted onto them every year. The old text also made the whole project too unweildy. Any time there was an event in team history, I had eight leaks in the dike to plug. Miss a few every now now and then, which I did, and the whole project starts to crumble. I've gotten a fair amount of shit for how I've handled the whole change, but this was the only way I could have done it. The other option was to let it die.

AG/DC Feb 01 2008 09:28 PM

Well, I meant to praise, not bury. I dug on the essays. Such intros as "Whatever you do, don't wear this number" were great, and describing a series of guys in the same set of digits as "human power failures." As history went on, you can see some numbers representing a broader set of critera, and some narrower. Some would meean a single thing until Jay Bell ruined everything.

Willets Point Feb 01 2008 09:35 PM

I second the appreciation of the essays. For what it's worth, they live on in the Internet Archive.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 01 2008 09:58 PM

Well, what used to be "site updates" shown in that link above and today would be considered "blog posts" are indeed on the new site and even a little better organized than before. Edgy was referring to "mbtn.net/1-10.htm" which doesn't really have a place to go on the new site.

AG/DC Feb 01 2008 10:12 PM

31: This Mike Piazza guy is turning out to be a pretty good pickup. He's collected 137 homers and 407 RBI in the four seasons he's been here, and, most impressive, been a gentleman and hard competitor despite the a huge contract, cover-boy duties, assassination attempts by knuckleheaded Yankee thugs and constant dissing of his defensive game (some of which is justified). He probably hits the ball harder than any player the Mets have ever had. I say we keep him. Piazza's arrival in 1998 was important enough to force a number change to the Mets' all-time No. 31, John Franco. The Mets all-time leader in saves and appearances, Franco (above, 1990-98) selflessly switched to 45 to make room for Mike. Another Italian-American to wear trent-uno for the Mets? Jack DiLauro in 1969. Others: Early relief ace Larry Bearnarth (1963-66); Dave Rohr (1967-69); Ron Herbel (1970); Don Rose (1971); Harry Parker (1973-75); freak rookie success Mike Vail (1975); Roy Lee Jackson (1977-80); Dickie Thon drill sargeant Mike Torrez (1983-84); hard-throwing Bruce Berenyi (1985-86); Gene Walter (1987); and Iguana-eating pitcher Julio Machado (1989). Manager George Bamberger (1982-83) too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 01 2008 10:15 PM

Maybe I can do some of this: [url]http://www.mbtn.net/number/46

AG/DC Feb 01 2008 10:25 PM

I've got no problem with that. Every number has a thesis statement.

Kong76 Feb 02 2008 04:22 AM

JCL: >>>You can go to your book store for them.<<< More coffee on the laptop. So the link on Amazon says 3/1 .... that's only four weeks away. Did you get a hard copy yet? How does it feel? Must be cool. Can't wait to get this.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 02 2008 07:00 AM

I have a few. I am more scared than anything. "They" say it reads well, but I walk around scared it's too basic for hardcore fans and too hardcore for basic fans. Plus I know of a couple of minor goofs got through, one that will be found out, which I hope there's a 2nd edition to correct.

*62 Apr 12 2008 09:04 PM

MBTN looks great. Nice job!