Apr 09 2007 02:23 PM
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Shea Lidlifter IGT 4/9/07
| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 07:37 AM |
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GWreck (upper deck), Old Mole (??) and Soupcan (cushy, possibly heated field-level seats with waiter service) expected to be in attendence as the 07 Mets open in Flushing. Sunny and cold out, fellas. Wrap up.
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 07:51 AM |
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All time record crowd expected for opening day,parking is a mess so take the train or the ferry ,I'm going to try and not get a score during the game and watch it tonight...do I have the discipline though.
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| soupcan Apr 09 2007 08:03 AM Re: Shea Lidlifter IGT 4/9/07 |
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Seats expected to be heated at the new place in '09. Until then we still have to settle for ushers rubbing our appendages to warm them. So primitive.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 08:07 AM |
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Enjoy the game all you ticket-holders. Opening Day used to be a tradition with me. I first went at the age of 14 in 1978 and attended every opener from then through 1992. I had tickets for 1993 but I was recovering from a nasty and long-lasting illness and thought better of going to Queens and sitting in the cold and the wind. That, and the Mets awful play in 1993, broke the spell, and I didn't even consider going in 1994. I still, somewhere, have a few unused tickets to that 1993 opener, and maybe someday I'll dig them up and sell them on eBay to a Colorado Rockies fan. (It was the first game they ever played.)
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| soupcan Apr 09 2007 08:35 AM |
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The earliest Opener I remember attending was '85 and I've been to every one since. I think I was at the '83 and '84 games as well but can't be sure. They say that today's temps could rival '85's which wouldn't be fun. That was a cold one my friends, although those that were there left with a very warm feeling in their cuckolds.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 08:36 AM |
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I remember how cold I was at that 1985 game. When it went into extra innings, I thought that the next morning somebody would show up at Shea and see a bunch of frozen corpses and wonder what had happened.
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| soupcan Apr 09 2007 08:44 AM |
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And oddly enough, according to UMDB, today is the 22nd anniversary of Gary Carter's first homerun as a met.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 08:47 AM |
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Off Neil Allen. That was one of my favorite Opening Day moments. It's a tossup between that and Tom Seaver's return in 1983.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 08:57 AM |
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Think I've been to two home openers. The first was won by a single by Joe Torre in the bottom of the 9th, Seaver over Carlton, 32 years ago yesterday. Cloudy day is what I remember. [url]http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=2122[/url] The other was against the Braves in '01 featuring a bunch of HRs including a bomb from Shinjo. That day was brilliantly sunny and warm, 6 years ago today. [url]http://www.ultimatemets.com/gamedetail.php?gameno=6259[/url]
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 10:59 AM |
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Black hats at home on Opening Day, blech.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 11:23 AM |
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Cole Hamels = PFG.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 11:23 AM |
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And they're underway! Both sides go down in order in the first. Hamels fans both Reyes and Beltran.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 11:34 AM |
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Delgado bunts against the shift!
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 11:48 AM |
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Maine's slider looks really really flat. That inning could've been a lot worse, man.
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| dinosaur jesus Apr 09 2007 11:54 AM |
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I know Green is batting .360, but I'd really like to see Milledge out there instead today.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:11 PM |
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Rollins grounds into a DP with the bases loaded to get the mets out of trouble
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:11 PM |
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Hells yeah, with a tough lefty like Hamels. Maine, throw strikes. Boo-yah! Maine gets the MVP of Talk to ground into a DP with 1 out and the bases loaded! Sweet.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 12:15 PM |
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That's a precision jamectomy there. When is the heat regarding the offense going to intensify where it belongs, under David "Wax Musuem" Wright? I ain't fer it but agin it, but for all the talk over who's the better No. 2 hitter LoDuca's done a better job of it so far and there's barely been any difference between he and Wright since last July.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 12:19 PM |
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I type as he leaves another guy standing on 3rd with less than 2 out.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:20 PM |
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Damnit, Wright, you've got to make contact there.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 12:22 PM |
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Back-to-back 3-2 change ups. That kid's got some stones.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:23 PM |
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But that's his out pitch! What the fuck were Wright & Delgado thinking--that he'd groove a fastball in there? Come on, guys, read your scouting reports!
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:23 PM |
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Green walks to load em with 2 outs, its all up to Valentin!
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 12:25 PM |
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2 run single for Valentin its 2-1 Mets!
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:25 PM |
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Ugh, and he's so bad against lefties . . . Little blooper, Valentin, that's all we need!
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 12:25 PM |
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Jose gets it done; singles in two runs!
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:25 PM |
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Yes! Way to hang in there Valentin! Let's Go Mets!
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| dinosaur jesus Apr 09 2007 12:26 PM |
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I like this kid Valentin. I think he's going to be a good one.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 12:26 PM |
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MLB Game Day says "Coaching visit to the mound." Hmmm, two out and John Maine at the plate. What's there to talk about?
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 12:27 PM |
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Biggest hit of the year so far
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:27 PM |
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Milledge and Easley probably should start over Green and Valentin against tough lefties (if not all lefties) but today's small sample size will probably prevent that from happening for a little while.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 12:29 PM |
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It was actually a coaching visit to home plate. Charlie Manuel was out to argue the safe call on Delgado at home, a killer slide to the first base side of the plate, sneaking his right hand in just ahead of the lunging tag of Ruiz, who had to come from the third base side to handle Burrell's throw.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 12:34 PM |
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Utley's making a bitch of you, David Wright
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:34 PM |
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Maine has walked 5 already, thats not good.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 12:34 PM |
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The way Down East is pitching today is not pleasing to me.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 12:44 PM |
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Maine doesn't make it through the fifth. He's replaced by Burgos with two out.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 12:44 PM |
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And Burgos retires Nunez to end the inning. Halfway through, score tied at two.
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| dinosaur jesus Apr 09 2007 12:45 PM |
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So you pull the guy who can't throw strikes today, and with the bases loaded you bring in the reliever who's never been able to throw strikes. And it works. Willie, you're a genius.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 12:46 PM |
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Nice to see Boogers with some success in a non-laugher. We really should try and get him a win
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:49 PM |
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who did Howard collide with?
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 12:52 PM |
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:52 PM |
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Delgado with the SF, 3-2
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 12:53 PM |
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Never can stay away from seeing the score.....what inning are we in?
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 12:53 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 12:54 PM |
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Bizarre-sounding play. According to Howie, the catcher Ruiz called for the pop up, but Howard didn't hear him and barrelled into him. Reyes did the right thing and hustled despite hitting what should have been an easy out, winding up on second . LoDuca gets jammed but hits it to the right side, advancing Reyes to third. Beltran walks, and Delgado hits a long fly ball to bring Jose home! Edit: Wait, it was Nunez? How did the 1B collide with the 3B? I shouldn't be listening to Mets games while trying to work. I suspect I'm not doing either thing particularly well.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 12:53 PM |
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Beltran picked off to end the inning. its 3-2 at the end of 5, irish
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 12:56 PM |
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If the Mets can hold on to the lead today it will be good in the karma-balancing way to make up for the games they should've won this weekend. Because the Mets have done a lot of things to help them lose today.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 12:58 PM |
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Burgos retires Hamels, and now it's the top of the order in the sixth. If he holds the Phillies here, he'll be my all-time favorite guy named Ambiorix.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 12:59 PM |
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Hee-hee. They compared Burgos' pitch that hit Rollins to the Mayor of Cincinnati's opening pitch.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 01:00 PM |
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Last inning he busted off a wicked 2-1 curveball to Beltran and all he could do was watch. He's thrown any pitch in any count today. Maybe they did read the scouting report and it just said "Good luck".
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 01:00 PM |
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Burgos hbps Rollins, give sup a bloop to Victorino, setting up 1st & 3rd, 1 out for Utley & Howard
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:01 PM |
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Pop-up was on the 3rd base side of the mound. Hamels immediately called for someone else to get it and bailed. Nunez got under it, but Howard can downhill off the mound and threw a bit of a forearm shiver into Nunez's head, knocking him down. Ball bounced off Howard's glove, and Nunez was down for about a minute.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:04 PM |
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That's right. Just stop working and focus on the game.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:05 PM |
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Gamecast says ball 2 to Utley was in the strike zone.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 01:06 PM |
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It was Nunez. The pop-up was right at the mound where Nunez and Howard converged. On the replay you could see Nunez calling it, but Howard kept drifting and drifting and slammed an elbow into his head as they both reached for the ball. The Lo Duca grounder was no accident. First pitch he took a hack at a high fastball and tried to drive it. In the dugout after the AB, he was shaking his head and saying "too high". He wasn't trying to move anyone over with that first pitch. Then he tried to bunt and fouled it back. On the grounder to second, though, he really went "inside out" as the dudes in the booth described ad nauseum.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:06 PM |
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I can also see a lot of pickoff attempts. I'm reminded of Tim McCarver saying, "You gotta worry about the guy with the stick in his hands!"
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 01:09 PM |
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Boogers whiffs Utley in a marathon ab
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:09 PM |
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My God that strikeout was a long time coming.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:09 PM |
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I have no idea what the fuck is going on when Tom McCarthy calls the game.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:10 PM |
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Burgos strikes out Utley on a ball in the dirt on a 3-2 pitch! thats confidence in the splitter! do you walk Howard and have Burgos pitch to Burrell or do you bring in Feliciano to face Howard? I'd walk Howard and leave Burgos in for Burrell.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:10 PM |
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That's the mark of a good broadcaster.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:10 PM |
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No Feliciano to face Howard, Burgos stays in.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:10 PM |
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Why is Feliciano not in to face Howard?
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:10 PM |
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I think this is going to be one of those unintentional intentional walks for Howard.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:11 PM |
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woah. pitching to Howard, i don't agree with this.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:11 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 01:12 PM |
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Howard is ice cold, that splitter has him all over the place. EDIT: I'm misspelled Cory Lidle. RIP.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:11 PM |
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It looks like Burgos is pitching to Howard. Good. I'm okay with that...
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 01:12 PM |
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3-run fucking homer
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:13 PM |
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HR Ryan Howard, i knew that was a dumb idea.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:13 PM |
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How do you feel about that now?
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:13 PM |
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Ok, he stopped looking cold.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:13 PM |
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Willie is going to get killed for this one. No way you leave a righty in to face Howard. Bad bad move.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 01:13 PM |
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Retarded. Should have brought in Feliciano. Burgos sucks against lefties. It's a miracle he got Utley out.
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 01:14 PM |
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Willie will say Feliciano pitched the last few nights,or some such bullshit.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:14 PM |
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Not quite as good as I did earlier. At least now I won't be tempted to name my next child or pet "Ambiorix."
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:15 PM |
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he should get killed. either bring in Feliciano or walk Howard and face Burrell. pitching to the 2nd or 3rd best hitter in the NL with a relief pitcher who throws fro the "wrong side" is just dumb. oh look Burrell struck out. whoops.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:15 PM |
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it does sound like a good name for an Iguana.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 01:16 PM |
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Burgos v. lefties: 53 IP, 71 H, 12 HR, 35 BB, 68 K, .320 BAA, 2.00 WHIP Stupid stupid stupid, Willie.
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| ABG Apr 09 2007 01:17 PM |
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There's no rational basis to pitch to Howard there. None. It'll only be more infuriating when Willie explains it away as a gut call or trying to get Burgos' cahnfidence up.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:17 PM |
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those numbers are scary
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:18 PM |
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Hopefully the Mets can answer with at least one run here. Two quick strikes on David Wright to lead off.
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 01:21 PM |
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Wright flies out to right......
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 01:25 PM |
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Even more depressing? Howard against lefties: 279 AB, 112 K, 27 BB, .237 AVG/.314 OBP/.459 SLG/.773 OPS If there were ever a time for a situational lefty, that was it.
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| iramets Apr 09 2007 01:27 PM |
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Gosh, you'd almost think that some peeps around here don't care for Willie's weak-assed bullshit explanations of his reasoning or somefin. What are you guys, haters? Let's have some love for Willie! He's a brilliant tactician who always has a plausible in-depth explanation for those rare times his complex mind messes up.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 01:28 PM |
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Can't make too big a deal out of 6th-inning matchups in April. This was as good a time as any to see how/if he'd rise to the occassion.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:29 PM |
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Joe Smith has crazy stuff. That movement is ridiculous, and now he just broke a bat.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:31 PM |
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Philly bullpen. Ok, let's go to work.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 01:32 PM |
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I'd argue that every game counts until you clinch, and that it was pretty predictible how Burgos would do against Howard given their respective histories. I'm not saying you'd predict a home run, but it's a no-brainer that Burgos is less likely to be successful against Howard than one of our lefties.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:37 PM |
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with 2 outs its also a far more likely bet that walking howard to face Burrell with Burgos is a better move, so willie actually chose the third best option (the worst option) of the 3 options he had there.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:39 PM |
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A two-out hit to taunt and tantalize me.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:41 PM |
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Tauntalize?
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:41 PM |
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Looper has a 1-0 lead in the 8th against the Pirates. Why did he never tell US he wanted to start? well i guess given the Heilman thing we probably wouldn't have given him the chance...
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:42 PM |
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ball 4 to beltran, get it done Delgado!
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 01:43 PM |
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So by Willie's book, Manuel should bring in a righty to face Delgado right?
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:43 PM |
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Two on with two out to tauntalize me.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:46 PM |
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Delgado brings the Mets closer with an RBI single, its 5-4 bad guys.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 01:46 PM |
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Delgado with a ribbie single!
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 01:47 PM |
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Goddam, I can't think of anything alliterative, but I liked that hit/RBI.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 01:47 PM |
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Delgado's having a good day. GameDay tells me "#4 in play run(s)" and I have to sit and wait to see if it's a three-run homer or a one-run single. Let's see Wright put the ball in play for run(s).
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:49 PM |
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Vuck Fictorino
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 01:49 PM |
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victorino robs wright with a diving catch :(
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 01:50 PM |
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Yeah, that's not the kind of situation Burgos would be used in anyway, even if he was successful for the team this year. Feliciano's killer against lefties, and that's pretty much all Schoenweis can do. You have to walk Howard, the reigning freaking MVP Howard, and face Burrell, or bring in one of the lefties. You want to see what he's got, but you still have to give your team the best chance to win.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 01:52 PM |
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Well now Feliciano comes in.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 02:00 PM |
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. . . and he gets the side in order. Alou, Green & Valentin against Geary, who's thrown 25 pitches so far.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:02 PM |
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Alou and Green are on with nobody out!
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:03 PM |
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Back to back base hits. No runs here and I'll probably cry.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:03 PM |
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Not to worry. Wright is still 7 slots away.
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:04 PM |
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Chavez comes in to pinch run for Shawn Green, who I owe an apology, probably.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:05 PM |
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Valentin Fs up the sac bunt, force at 3rd
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:05 PM |
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FUCK they get the lead runner on the bunt attempt. why is valentin bunting anyway? i don't like it.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:06 PM |
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Julio Dinosaur will bat...
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:06 PM |
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Crabapples!
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:06 PM |
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Seriously uncomfortable with Franco here, but my first option is on 2nd base.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:07 PM |
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me too, if only because he's a DP waiting to happen
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 02:07 PM |
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Why is Endy pinch running for the go-ahead run instead of the tying run? Especially if you're going to bunt? WTF is Willie thinking? Willie is a dumb stupid hippo.
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| ABG Apr 09 2007 02:07 PM |
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What about Pinch running Endy for Alou instead? Wouldn't you rather have the fastest guy as the potential tying run for any number of reasons? Not second guessing the bunt problem--he should've gotten it done anyway, but wouldn't you want Endy on third in case of a short fly ball?
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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Thankfully Franco walks and leaves it up to Reyes. PLEASE...
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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bases loaded on the 4-pitch walk. jose jose jose jose...
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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Unless he walks.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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Walk to Franco loads 'em up for Reyes.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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Franco walks to load em
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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yeah but i could have taken that walk, it doesnt validate using the guy when the pitcher just cant find the zone
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 02:10 PM |
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This is the game right here...come on you Mets.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:11 PM |
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TIED on a Jimmy Rollins error!
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:11 PM |
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BIG-MOUTH ROLLINS BOBBLES THE BALL!!! A RUN SCORES!!
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:11 PM |
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Thank you Jimmy Rollins! Arrogant ass had it coming.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:11 PM |
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In play! Run(s)!
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:11 PM |
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Rollins' mouth is bigger than his glove.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:12 PM |
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Now let's see if "Eddie Munster" can put us in the lead...
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 02:13 PM |
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Sweet. Crowd with the "Jose" chant--sounds pretty nice.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:13 PM |
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Valentin scores on a wild pitch!
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:13 PM |
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Geary wild pitch! Mets take the lead! CHOKEEEEEEEEEEEe
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:13 PM |
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Wild pitch! Valentin scores!
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:13 PM |
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No doubt. I wasn't ragging on you so much as pointing out that we dodged a bullet.
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| seawolf17 Apr 09 2007 02:14 PM |
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I like how I get to read about what happens here, then watch it happen "live" on GameCast.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:14 PM |
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Geary sure loves his crappy breaking ball.
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:14 PM |
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Geary is imploding so bad. Waited way too long to take him out.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 02:15 PM |
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Gamecast is making me think John Franco is on third.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:16 PM |
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I want Beltran to make this a non-save situation.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:16 PM |
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john lieber coming on!
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:17 PM |
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Leiber v. Beltran. Weird.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:17 PM |
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SF beltran, its 7-5
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:17 PM |
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Sacfly for the insurance run
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:18 PM |
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I can't believe Franco tagged there, and I can't believe there wasn't a play.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:18 PM |
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Met wins this season have been a lot about the opposition fucking up.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:19 PM |
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They're gonna walk Delgado to get to the easy out behind him
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:19 PM |
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David Wright, prove to me your still a superhuman.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:20 PM |
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Wright can blow this wide open. If they can find the strike zone, anyway.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:20 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 02:21 PM |
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2-RUN Double! edit- inches from a HR
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:20 PM |
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2-run double! 9-5 METS!
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:21 PM |
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I thought maybe two insults in one inning might get to the boy.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:21 PM |
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Whooooooo weee a few feet short of the slam, but a double is excellent too. David's back.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM |
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the fans are chanting "jimmy rollins"!
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| GYC Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM |
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Loving the Jimmy Rollins chants. Alou drives in two more!
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 02:23 PM |
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baaaasehit, 2 run single for Alou! Chavez, who came on as a pinch-runner, will bat!
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 02:23 PM |
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Jimmy Rollins clap
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:22 PM |
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Thank you David. My mancrush never faltered.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 02:23 PM |
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 02:23 PM |
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And Alou with a 2-ribbie single! Fuckin' A, man!
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 02:25 PM |
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Nice to see you again, David. And your 18 (19?) game hit streak is still in-tact.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:25 PM |
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i think that Rollins prediction getting spanked! potentially 4 behind the mets, 4.5 behind the braves, and 2 behind the marlins at the end of play today.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:25 PM |
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There's plenty of Schaefer to give out today! (And very little of it will go to pitchers, I think.)
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 02:26 PM |
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Willie = Genius
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:26 PM |
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Endy grounds out. The Mets will have to settle for a 7-run inning.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:27 PM |
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Maine couldn't even go 5 and he walked the ballpark, willie's strategy can't be blamed on Burgos but i still can't give the guy points. smith and feliciano should probably get something, whoever comes in next gets nothing for pitching with a 6 run lead
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:27 PM |
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But I really like how the Mets have capitalized on those fuck-ups and made the opposition pay. Kind of reminiscent of the Yankees 1998-2000. Except that the Mets aren't assholes.
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| Farmer Ted Apr 09 2007 02:29 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 09 2007 02:30 PM |
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Can of Whoop Ass, opened. http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/250/sp0816.gif (sorry, can't seem to post images, just links)
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 02:29 PM |
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7 runs, 2 earned in the 8th. Yikes. At least we're taking advantage.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:29 PM |
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Bitchin' slider.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 02:29 PM |
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Taking advantage of the other team's mistakes is a time-honored way of winning.
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:31 PM |
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Wagner pitching with a big lead always makes me nervous.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:32 PM |
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Charming close up of Burrell spitting out a big ole tobacco wad. Something tells me Wagner enjoyed that K.
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| Rotblatt Apr 09 2007 02:32 PM |
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Damn. Billy boy K's Howard and Burrell to end the game! Way to rebound, boys. On to the next.
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| Kid Carsey Apr 09 2007 02:33 PM |
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 02:38 PM |
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So now that this game is over, someone explain to me what a lidlifter is.
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| OlerudOwned Apr 09 2007 02:40 PM |
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I really like the band Les Savy Fav, but if they keep playing the MLB 2K7 commerical I'm gonna go crazy.
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 02:42 PM |
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Yawn. Never a doubt.
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| A Boy Named Seo Apr 09 2007 02:42 PM |
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Hope opener. Like peeling the top off a new can of tennis balls.
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| dinosaur jesus Apr 09 2007 02:44 PM |
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In seven games, Reyes has scored ten runs and driven in eight. At this rate, he'll score 231 on the season and drive in 185. But will it be enough to win the MVP?
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 02:50 PM |
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nonsense. Jimmy Rollins is clearly the MVP. he leads the league in "game losing errors" and "patrick-ewing-like false gaurantees"
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| Centerfield Apr 09 2007 02:57 PM |
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Home crowd must have loved it. I can't wait to see the game on replay tonight.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 09 2007 03:03 PM |
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The icing on the cake is that the Phillies must be a bit demoralized at this point. It will be so great if the Mets can take the next two as well.
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| cooby Apr 09 2007 03:36 PM |
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Last I checked the score at work it was 5-4 Phillies. Got in the car to come home and found the Mets had hit it big!
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| Willets Point Apr 09 2007 03:41 PM |
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Actually, walked, error, wild pitched, and hit it big.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 09 2007 03:42 PM |
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It was one of those phrases ye olde time sporrtswriters frequently used but hardly ever came up in conversation, like "Middle gardner" for centerfielder, utterly inelegant and overwrought.
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| ABG Apr 09 2007 03:45 PM |
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If we did a shoulda won/did win/shoulda lost/did lose thread like existed last year, this game would have to go in the Did Win/Shoulda lost columns.
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| Nymr83 Apr 09 2007 04:06 PM |
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ESPN's game summary puts it well:
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| Rockin' Doc Apr 09 2007 04:22 PM |
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Been out doing yard work most of the afternoon. Just sat down and read through this thread. I must say that this was one of the most enjoyable reads I have had in quite some time. The Mets overcame Willie's bone headed decision to let Burgos pitch to Ryan Howard, with a little help from my favorite Phillie (at least for today) Jimmie "E" Rollins. I'm rather fond of Geoff Geary as well. Thanks guys, we likely couldn't have done it without you.
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| Gwreck Apr 09 2007 04:51 PM |
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This game was pretty ugly all-around. Man, there were a lot of stupid Mets fans there today. The "Jimmy Rollins" chant -- it actually broke out right after the error, but got louder after the WP -- was great, though. I couldn't see the bullpen from my Upper Deck, Section 35 seats, but does anyone know if Feliciano was actually warming up when Burgos was pitching to Utley? I couldn't believe Burgos was pitching to Howard either. The Endy pinch-running for the wrong runner bothered me, too. He got one-upped by Manuel, however in the "stupid strategy" department. Geary came in to get the final out in the 7th, but then stayed in the game to lead off. A one-run game, and you lead off with your pitcher? Manuel could've double-switched in Wes Helms at 3B, too, had he wanted to. Big brain freeze there. Maine's fastball was registering on the Shea gun consistently in the 86-88 range, which seemed a bit slow. Was surprised to see Franco PHing. Figured we'd get Newhan as the lefty in that spot. The muffed popup consisted of Nunez, Howard, Hamels and Ruiz all coming together at the same spot in right in front of the mound. Nobody called it. I couldn't believe Delgado wasn't out at the plate on that Valentin single. No idea what happened (way too far away to see) but the throw had him easily beat.
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| metirish Apr 09 2007 09:15 PM |
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Watched the game tonight ,no way Rollins get a double play on Reyes even if he handled that ball cleanly...Keith threw his first pitch high but Hojo caught it...
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| iramets Apr 10 2007 06:17 AM |
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Still doesn't make Willie smart for pitching to last year's 58-HR MVP with the wrong pitcher. His offense got him off the hook, but I don't think you'd be very pleased with his move if the scoriing had stopped at that point. I haven't read the papers so I dont know if he responded to anyone's question about the move with his usual clueless hostility. Anyone hear anything yet, or was this another bone-headed move he skates away from?
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2007 06:25 AM |
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He said it was because Heilman was unavailable and he didn't want to go too deep into his bullpen too early. And that Ryan Howard "isn't Barry Bonds."
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| iramets Apr 10 2007 06:29 AM |
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He's also not Babe Ruth or Willie Mays or Orville Redenbacher. Nice non-response response. Yancy, where was this q and a quoted? I'd like to read the full exchange.
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| Johnny Dickshot Apr 10 2007 06:34 AM |
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He wasn't particulatrly hostile as per the postgame pc as broadcast on the radio. It wasn't as if he was being grilled on his choices as you might have, but said he was comfortable with Burgos, and that he made a bad pitch. He noted he preferred not to get too deep into the bullpen in the 6th inning with Heilman unavailable. No hostility.
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| iramets Apr 10 2007 06:47 AM |
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Obernauer in this morning's Daily News (annotated): Willie Randolph is a manager who relies on gut instinct otherwise known as brainless hunches, not subject to any reasoning process known to man or to rational questioning ; he is not known to act strictly by the book. It's worked for him so far, and will work as long as his offense gets him 11 runs per game so the Mets skipper threw that book in the trash again yesterday - only this time, a one-run lead followed it right down the chute. With the Mets leading 3-2 in the top of the sixth, Ryan Howard strode to the plate with two Phillies aboard, first base open and a righthander, who gave up a zilion HRs for the KC Royals last year Ambiorix Burgos, on the mound. So why pitch to the reigning NL MVP in that situation? "Why not? He's hitting .200," Randolph replied. "I mean, he's an excellent hitter, but Pat Burrell's a Met killer. "I respect Ryan like crazy," Randolph claimed after giving Howard one of the most obvious disses a manager could give a slugger, " but he's not Barry Bonds." In other words, he's not a HR hitter I have much respect for." The righthand-hitting Burrell had never faced Burgos but still has 32 homers and 92 RBI in his career against the Mets, and already had two singles off John Maine yesterday. He was the man on deck, so Randolph went after the lefty-hitting Howard instead - and last year's NL home run king went deep. Of course, no one suggested that he walk Howard, but simply bring in a righthanded pitcher to replace Burgos and his pet gopher. It was his fifth straight game against the Mets with a homer, and fourth straight at Shea, but hey, no one says that Willie should pay attention to crap like that when he's got his hunches going for him. He fell behind 1-and-2, then fouled off the next two pitches, and when the flamethrowing Burgos then tossed a slider, Howard scorched it over the fence in right-center for his first homer of the year. Asked if he was surprised that Randolph let him hit - and face a righty - Howard said: "Fuck, yeah! My fucking eyes got round like saucers when I saw--oh, excuse me, fellas, could we change that answer? Thanks. Try: .Little bit, little bit. I didn't know if - I know (lefty Pedro) Feliciano was down in the pen, I didn't know how loose he was. And I know Chase (Utley) had about a 20-pitch at-bat, so I was figuring that he'd probably be loose by then. Man, is Willie a total dumbass or what? I mean, Christ! A four year old would have a righty hot in that situation" Utley's at-bat actually lasted 12 pitches, ending in a strikeout. Howard said that standing in the on-deck circle during that at-bat helped immensely. "You got to see pretty much everything (Burgos) had," Howard said. "Hitting behind Chase and watching him work the pitcher was definitely good there."
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 10 2007 06:49 AM |
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Obernauer, Michael, "Willie defends pitch to Howard: He's not Bonds", New York Daily News, Tuesday, April 10, 2007, page 54.
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| Lundy Apr 10 2007 07:09 AM |
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My brother in law gave me an Easter surprise with tickets to yesterday's game. We were in the Upper Deck, but we were in the sun so it was actually quite warm for most of the game. Lots of people in my section were getting on David Wright much like Dickshot was in this thread. We saw Feliciano come to the door of the bullpen, and my brother in law commented that now that he didn't come into the game that he was going to catch Howard's homer. He was wrong. He hit it to just left of the bullpen... Also of note, the "Professor Reyes" segment is now the "Jose Reyes Spanish Academy" sponsored by Delta.
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| ABG Apr 10 2007 07:13 AM |
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Correct. He's better.
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| iramets Apr 10 2007 07:53 AM |
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Willie's response seems pretty stupid to me. If he could not afford to burn his bullpen early, then he should have left Burgos in the game after Ryan's HR. Plainly he could afford to use Feliciano, because he did, and one extra (crucial) batter didn't mean a thing as far as providing "length." Just once, I'd like to see him take the blame for puling a dumb move and not try to justify it with some stupid bullshit that persuades six-year olds of his managerial expertise.
Unable to throw his fastball for strikes, John Maine allowed six walks in four and two-thirds innings and was replaced, with the bases loaded and two outs, by Ambiorix Burgos. Burgos induced a groundout from Abraham Núñez to end the threat and came out to pitch the sixth. “I needed some length,” Randolph said. With one out, Burgos hit Rollins and allowed a bloop single to Shane Victorino that pushed Rollins to third. In the Mets’ bullpen, the left-handed specialist Pedro Feliciano was warming up, ostensibly to face the Phillies’ dynamic left-handed hitters, Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, who were up next. Burgos struck out Utley in an exhausting 12-pitch at-bat in which Victorino stole second, leaving first base open if the Mets were interested in intentionally walking Howard, the reigning most valuable player in the National League. Randolph went to the mound — “He told me to make good pitches,” Burgos said, with the third-base coach, Sandy Alomar, serving as interpreter — while in the bullpen, Feliciano assumed he was coming in and opened the gate before he was told to come back. Randolph made his decision as much out of necessity as to boost Burgos’s confidence. Aaron Heilman, who is battling elbow tendinitis, threw 41 pitches Sunday and was unavailable except in an emergency. Randolph said he did not want to use Feliciano because he could have been forced to turn to the right-handed specialist Joe Smith to pitch to the on-deck hitter, Pat Burrell, if the inning continued. Burgos went right after Howard, getting ahead, 1-2. But on a 2-2 count, Howard blasted Burgos’s seventh consecutive splitter 390 feet over the fence in right-center field to put the Phillies ahead, 5-3. It was the first homer allowed by Burgos this season, but his 17th in his last 75 1/3 innings.
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| metirish Apr 10 2007 08:05 AM |
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Lets not let the dubious pitching decisions over shadow some other poor decisions,pinch running Chavez for Green who was on first and not for Alou who was on second in the eight inning and then Alou getting cut down on third on Jose Valentin's sac bunt,Mets were still down a run at this point. Willie said he wanted to keep the better offensive player in the game.
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| TheOldMole Apr 10 2007 10:59 AM |
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We were on the cold side. But it was still great.
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