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Nymr83
Apr 08 2007 07:32 PM

3 straight days of games cancelled by snow in Cleveland. Has that ever happened before?

iramets
Apr 08 2007 08:20 PM

Well, for almost all of baseball history, the first week of April they were still in Arizona and Florida, so--no, probably not.

cooby
Apr 08 2007 08:47 PM

Global warming, don't cha know

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 09 2007 09:07 AM

Binghamton had its entire opening four-game series in Akron postponed, some days for snow, others for "cold."

soupcan
Apr 09 2007 09:16 AM

My 10 year-old's LL team has now played as many games as the Indians with another scheduled for this afternoon.

metirish
Apr 09 2007 10:14 AM

Indians and Seattle hoping to play two today,MLB afraid of more cancellations are thinking of altering the schedule and sending the Indians to Anaheim for that series supposed to start tomorrow night in Cleveland.

Nymr83
Apr 09 2007 01:09 PM

they should really start the season with division games whereever possible, they're so much easier to make up later on if necessary because the team will be back in town at least twice

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 09 2007 01:14 PM

True, but since four of the six divisions have an odd number of teams, there are always going to be a bunch of games played between divisions.

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 09 2007 01:15 PM

They've already called today's games, too.

My friend is a huge Indians fan and already took vacay in May for the series out here w/ the Angels. He's hoping Mother Nature knocks it off and lets the kids play this week.

Nymr83
Apr 09 2007 01:16 PM

yeah but you can put those in southern cities, in particular i'd want FLA to play lots of home games in April because the place is unbearable over the summer.

A Boy Named Seo
Apr 09 2007 01:26 PM

The Indians are going to host the Angels... in Milwaukee.

Hmmm...

Gwreck
Apr 09 2007 06:55 PM

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
in Milwaukee.

Doesn't somebody in the Selig family still have an ownership interest in that team?

(I assume that game would at least turn somewhat of a profit with concessions, parking, etc..)

Nymr83
Apr 09 2007 06:56 PM

well, i'm sure the indians had to ok it

TransMonk
Apr 09 2007 08:49 PM

Gwreck wrote:
="A Boy Named Seo"] in Milwaukee.

Doesn't somebody in the Selig family still have an ownership interest in that team?

(I assume that game would at least turn somewhat of a profit with concessions, parking, etc..)

Not anymore, Selig's daughter sold it prior to last year to Mark Attanasio.

Farmer Ted
Apr 11 2007 02:37 PM

19,031. Attendance for the Indians "home game" in Milwaukee. Not sure if the fans in Milwaukee are that good, or they just wanted to see a really good game for once. That's a lot of peeps in the stands.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 11 2007 02:41 PM

Heard a report on NPR this morning saying that there are a bunch of transplanted Clevelanders in Milwaukee and they enjoyed the novelty of seeing their favorite team playing a home game without having to travel back to Cleveland.

I would guess that just about every Indians fan in Wisconsin made an effort to get there. (I wouldn't have guessed that there would be even close to 19,000 such people, though.)

Nymr83
Apr 11 2007 03:08 PM

between Indians-fans-in-exile, milwaukee fans who just wanted to see a game, miscellaneous baseball fans in the area and cleveland fan who thought this was a great time for a road trip i think 19k is a fair turnout, i'd have expected less if i was making a guess beforehand but this isnt that crazy
how far IS cleveland from milwaukee? i know if the Mets had to play a home game in Baltimore or Pittsburgh I'd try my best to be there.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 11 2007 03:16 PM

450 miles. Further than Philadelphia or Baltimore from New York.

metsmarathon
Apr 11 2007 03:19 PM

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=41.496215%2C-81.685151&daddr=43.029661%2C-87.973432&ie=utf-8&v=2.1&cv=4.0.2416&hl=en

a mere 437 miles, or 7 hours driving

shea to pittsburgh is only 393 miles, while shea to cleveland is 477.

Farmer Ted
Apr 11 2007 04:05 PM

An easy trip for Indians fans in Chicago, just 90 miles.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 11 2007 04:07 PM

Good point. And there are probably more such fans in Chicago than in Milwaukee. (Only because I imagine that Chicago is a more tempting city to relocate to.)

TransMonk
Apr 11 2007 05:30 PM

Farmer Ted wrote:
19,031. Attendance for the Indians "home game" in Milwaukee. Not sure if the fans in Milwaukee are that good, or they just wanted to see a really good game for once. That's a lot of peeps in the stands.

Tickets are also being sold for $10 meaning that casual baseball fans can go see a MLB game without spending an arm and two legs for tickets.

I don't care about the Indians or the Angels, but I'm only a little over an hour away from Miller Park...if it wasn't for the raging snowstorm we've been having all day, I would have seriously considered driving to see a game tonight at those prices.

cooby
Apr 11 2007 06:39 PM

lol, good thing it's under a roof. The Indians must feel like it's following them around

Nymr83
Apr 11 2007 08:34 PM

transmonk, i'd guess you could get in to Miller Park for ~$10 every night.

Nymr83
Apr 11 2007 08:43 PM

wow, the Cubs just postponed today's home game do to snow. I can't remember a baseball season starting out this cold.

TransMonk
Apr 11 2007 09:21 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
transmonk, i'd guess you could get in to Miller Park for ~$10 every night.

You can get in the gates, top deck tickets are $13 apiece, outfield bleachers for $16, outfield box are $24 and infield box are $32 and up.

Myself, I like box seats...and for the Indians games, all tickets are $10 on a first come first serve basis.

Nymr83
Apr 12 2007 01:53 AM

at least at Shea i would choose the "bad" seats over field level. my favorite seats are the front rows of mezzanine behind the plate. if its a day game i'd even prefer to be further back under the overhang.

TransMonk
Apr 12 2007 11:09 AM

I don't mind being up if it's behind the plate. The best seats still available for tonight's game are seats comparable to Shea's inner loge section...which are good seats in either park. Those tickets are normally $36 for Brewers' games. If I were to go tonight with my wife and kid it would be $38 for all of us to get in the gates after parking. If I wanted those same seats for a Brewers game it would be $116. I imagine the $78 savings for pretty good views of MLB action is why the attendence has been decent for these games...although the attendence did dip to 16,000+ on Wednesday.

metirish
Apr 14 2007 02:59 PM

Seattle players having fun at Jacobs Field..

Frayed Knot
Apr 16 2007 10:10 AM

The annual 'Patriots Day' game in Boston was first delayed - from its usual 10AM starting time to noon - and now canceled. This had to fuck up not only the AL sked (Angels now have FIVE games to make up in cities they're not sked to visit again) but also a lot of Bostonites drinking plans for this state holiday.

They are, however, running the marathon despite heavy rains and strong EAST winds for a race run almost entirely west to east. Oooh that's gonna be a bitch. Some 112 lb Kenyan might be seen airborn over eastern Mass sometime today.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 10:59 AM

I was thinking it would be a greater advantage than usual to the smaller runners, or at least the shorter ones.

Angels are in a tough situation.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 11:13 AM

Memo to MLB: stick as closely as possible to division play in April.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 16 2007 11:17 AM

Not looking good for tonight or tommorrow in Philly, I think our next game is Wednesday in Miami

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 16 2007 11:23 AM

Here's what the National Weather Service has for Philadelphia for the next two nights:


="National Weather Service"]Tonight: A chance of showers. Cloudy, with a low around 36. Breezy, with a north wind 26 to 29 mph decreasing to between 18 and 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch possible.

Tuesday: A slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 50. North wind between 18 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Tuesday Night: A slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 37. North wind between 11 and 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

If that's right, then a game on Tuesday might be possible.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 11:27 AM

I think everybody should play in Milwaukee.

sharpie
Apr 16 2007 12:19 PM

The Patriot's Day game is being played. Top o' the first.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 12:33 PM

But Boston has been able to juggle their rotation to send Schilling, Beckett (who's had a good start), and Matsuzaka against the Yankees. Julian Tavarez may not pitch until May

Frayed Knot
Apr 16 2007 01:14 PM

sharpie wrote:
The Patriot's Day game is being played. Top o' the first.

I only listened to FAN for about 2 different 10-minute spans this morning, but both times I heard that the game had been called.
As annoying as that station can be at times they're generally not a source of bad info ... except today apparently.

]Memo to MLB: stick as closely as possible to division play in April.

Unfortunately, that memo is getting lost in the flood of memos imploring them to do essentially the opposite: ie. schedule as many warm weather site games as possible.
The fault, of course, lies in the schedule that's been neccesitated by expansion and inter-league but no one wants to hear that.


In all I'm not sure there's much MLB can do here.
The northern teams don't want to start on the road every year and turn their 6 weeks in Fla/Arz into 8 weeks away from home. The warm weather sites don't want to start with extended homestands as they feel that an excess of April games means a lack of July ones when school's out and the weather is better. And then you've got the two-team cities that don't want both at home or on the road at the same time.
Plus as it turns out, even if they somehow did arrange to keep week 1 games all in domes or the south, they're getting killed at least as bad in week 2 here.
Sometimes you just gotta chalk it up to bad luck and deal with it.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 01:49 PM

Sure. But I'm certainly not calling for more warm-weather sites.

Nymr83
Apr 16 2007 02:59 PM

the call for more division games makes more sense. it would also make sense to try and have as any of the non-division games as possible played right before a mutual offday so that the visitor who is not returning to town all year can stay the extra day and finish it up

Frayed Knot
Apr 16 2007 03:57 PM

Unfortunately it's not so easy now to keep things intra-division because of the odd sized divisions and so on. Back with the old two-division formats all games during the first 6 weeks of the season was all east-v-east and west-v-west.

And my point from earlier was that keeping things within the division is the exact opposite of what most seem to think should be the "solution" to this weather problem. A SD-v-LA or Ariz game would be a waste to many since they want all those cities to be hosting bad weather teams rather than each other.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 04:04 PM

Fuck those people.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 16 2007 04:10 PM

There really is no perfect solution to this problem.

One thing they could do is start the playoffs on the Friday following the regular season instead of on Tuesday, like they usually do.

So if the Giants aren't going back to Pittsburgh, and there's no open date that makes sense, don't reschedule it. And if it turns out that there are a few unplayed games that will have an impact on who makes the postseason, there will be time to play them in October.

I'd think that most of the games will be able to be rescheduled during the season, and most of those that aren't won't end up mattering and won't need to be played during that buffer zone in October.

If that means a few teams lose a few home dates, then so be it.

Another possiblity would be to let the Pirates play an extra game in San Francisco. If the Giants get an extra home date, make them give the Pirates a bigger cut. After all, if it hadn't rained in Pittsburgh the Giants wouldn't have had the chance to schedule that extra game.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 04:21 PM

I didn't mean to (1) suggest that there was a perfect solution, (2) suggest all games could be intradivision, (3) suggest that this be done at the same time as scheduing as many games in warm-weather or domed stadia. I made a suggestion, pushing an angle which MLB probably already highly values.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2007 04:49 PM

Kenya took the Men's division in Boston as Robert K Cheruiyot finished in 2:14:13. The top US male wasn't far off the pace, as Peter M. Gilmore finished eighth, at 2:16:41. He was seventh last year. In front of him was an Italian, an Ehiope, and five Kenyans.

East Africa didn't fare so decisively in the Women's division as Russian Lidiya Grigoryeva finished on top, at 2:29:18 American Deena Kastor finished 5th at 2:35:09, behind two Grigoryeva, one of Centerfield's Latvians, a Mexican, and Kenyan.

Nymr83
Apr 16 2007 06:55 PM

]One thing they could do is start the playoffs on the Friday following the regular season instead of on Tuesday, like they usually do

they are more afraid of a frigid WS in Boston/Cleveland than they are of losing a game in April, also I'd hate to have teams get additional days off between the playoffs and the season to rest their rotation... I love that the first round rewards teams who blew away the competition by letting them setup their rotation at the end of September while teams who didn't lock things up sooner have to go with whoever is rested

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2007 09:56 AM

With a nod toward the recent weather, MLB has named David Weathers, Tim Raines, J.T. Snow, Curt Flood, Rich Gale, and Gene Freeze as co-players of the week.

Edgy DC
Apr 17 2007 09:58 AM

Storm Davis demands a re-count.

Yancy Street Gang
Apr 17 2007 03:24 PM

="National Weather Service"]
Late Afternoon: A chance of showers. Cloudy, with a high near 50. Breezy, with a north wind around 22 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%.

Tonight: A chance of showers, mainly before 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 39. Breezy, with a north wind between 14 and 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

The forecast isn't as bad as it has been, but tonight's game still seems rather iffy.

I live about 30 miles from the Phillies ballpark and there hasn't been any rain yet today. The skies have been grey all day, though, and there's a heavy breeze. It might very well start raining within the half hour.