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All-Time Mets Lineup
| Centerfield Apr 19 2007 11:24 AM |
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Some good numbers in 2006 lead to changes in my All-Time Mets lineup: 1. Jose Reyes (2006) SS Prior to last year, I would have led off with 1996 Lance Johnson, put 1989 HoJo in the middle somewhere, and I guess I would have gone with 2005 Reyes near the bottom of the lineup. Your mileage may vary.
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| Centerfield Apr 19 2007 11:27 AM |
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Oh, and my rotation would be: Dwight Gooden (1985)
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| Yancy Street Gang Apr 19 2007 11:34 AM |
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I think I'd take a 1968 Koosman over a 1990 Viola.
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| Centerfield Apr 19 2007 11:37 AM |
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My rotation is obviously skewed by those I got the chance to watch in person. Some of that can be seen by my taking '71 Seaver over his '69 counterpart. All the numbers suggest Seaver was better in '71, but fans who were around in '69 say the Franchise was at his best that year.
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| iramets Apr 19 2007 11:41 AM |
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I'd like to read the "all-time" list of some pisher who first started watching Mets baseball in 2002. Can it be an "all-time" list if you're only going to write about the players you've actually seen?
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| Edgy DC Apr 19 2007 11:49 AM |
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Johnson 89 was on a different planet from Wright when you look at context.
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| Centerfield Apr 19 2007 11:49 AM |
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I didn't see '71 Seaver either (born in '75). My rationale was that I would be more inclined to take a player I had seen play over a player whose performance I can only base on stats. So where as Viola and Koos may have been similar pitchers, (similar W/L, both ERA's about a run below league averate), I'm more inclined to take the guy I saw. Those who saw his performance in the '69 World Series might be more inclined to take Jerry. On a related note, I had always suspected I would take '85 Keith over Olerud because my memory of him was that he was fantastic that year. But looking at the numbers, I realized taking him over Olerud would be foolish. Besides, as far as lineup goes, I can't think of anyone pre-1983 other than '70 Agee who might possibly crack that lineup.
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| metirish Apr 19 2007 12:01 PM |
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Started watching in 1996.....so going on players I have seen play... 1. Jose Reyes (2006) SS 1. Pedro Martinez -( 2005)
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| sharpie Apr 19 2007 12:14 PM |
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I saw Koosman in '68 and Viola in '90 and Koosman is the winner.
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| iramets Apr 19 2007 01:33 PM |
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I started watching last night and here's my all-time great Mets lineup Reyes (ss, 2007)
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| Nymr83 Apr 19 2007 03:37 PM |
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metirish- instead of Agbayani's 2000 I'd try (within your time frame) Henderson's 1999 or Cedeno's 1999.
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| metirish Apr 19 2007 03:44 PM |
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I did think about Roger,but really apart from the stolen bases was it really a great year,not saying that Benny's was better but still.
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| Vic Sage Apr 20 2007 11:37 AM Re: All-Time Mets Lineup Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 20 2007 11:41 AM |
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1. Jose Reyes (2006) SS Wright's 06 was very close, but did not top Hojo's 1989. Hojo (89): OPS+ = 169 / TB = 319 / RC = 119 Dwight Gooden (1985) I'd consider Matlack(72,74), Ojeda and Sid (86,88), Leiter (98,00) and maybe Saberhagen (94) before Viola (90). Frankie was a workhorse, and got to 20 wins, but he wasn't a dominating pitcher.
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| Edgy DC Apr 20 2007 11:39 AM |
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169 vs. 136 doesn't seem all that close, and, while I'm not big on runs created, I think 319 of them goes well further in 1989 than 318 today.
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| Vic Sage Apr 20 2007 11:47 AM |
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Wright's season, actually, was almost identical to Ventura's excellent 1999 season: Ventura (1999): OPS+ = 132 / TB = 311 / RC = 118 Neither of them was as good as Hojo at his peak, even if you factor in defensive superiority of Ventura and Wright.
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