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OoTSB, 4/29

Edgy DC
Apr 30 2007 07:46 AM

Besides the unassisted triple play, there was a strange occurrence in the Indians/Orioles game.

Orioles up 2-1 With one out, Nick Markakis is on third base and Miguel Tejada is on first. Ramon Hernandez hits a liner that Grady Sizemore catches with a dive in centerfield. Markarkis tags and scores as Sizemore's throw comes in to first, doubling off Tejada.

The run is disallowed. It shouldn't have been, as such a play --- while we call it a double play --- isn't a force, but actually two seperate plays, a putout followed by an appeal play. Most agree that the run should have counted. Eric Wedge even agrees. Except that the umps waited three full innings before reversing their call.

Johnny Dickshot
Apr 30 2007 08:00 AM

Recently recalled Brian Bannister started and lost for the Royals yesterday, though he seems to have done OK until the 7th (4 ER, 1 K, 2 BB in 6.1)

Frayed Knot
Apr 30 2007 08:11 AM

Seems like an odd rule for the umps - all 4 of them - to whiff on, and then to suddenly come around on an hour or so later. The Orioles eventually protested the game based on the umps adding the run three innings after the fact.

I once had a softball ump tell us that the score had to stand after we told him that our announced score of 4 runs for the previous inning was really 5 after re-adding. "Too late" was his explanation, "what you said then is your total even if wrong".
Now I have no idea if his stubbornness was even correct and realize that a weekend game where each team is responsible for keeping their own scorebook is hardly the same as MLB, but I wonder if MLB has a rule covering a time-frame as to when runs have to be acknowledged? If the umps could screw up the initial play they are certainly capable of screwing up a much more obscure ruling governing run calculation if one even exists.

If there isn't any such rule and runs can be tallied up to the final out of the game then the Baltimore protest doesn't stand a chance.

soupcan
Apr 30 2007 08:31 AM

I heard somewhere yesterday that the umps have 3 innings to reverse a call.

I think though that this might have been said during a discussion of some kind of instant (or not so instant) replay rule that may or may not be put into effect next season.

metirish
Apr 30 2007 08:56 AM

Saw this on baseball tonight,wasn't paying a lot of attention but I think they said MLB would be ruling on the game...

DocTee
Apr 30 2007 02:23 PM

Braves send Ryan Langerhans to Oakland for a player- to -be-named later.

Frayed Knot
May 02 2007 01:12 PM

The Indians protested Saturday night's game after the umpires awarded a run to the Orioles — three innings after initially waving it off.
MLB did not elaborate in announcing its decision. The Indians submitted paperwork to MLB on Sunday.
... Three innings later veteran umpire Ed Montague called scorekeeper Chad Broski and told him to add a run for the Orioles, giving them a 3-2 lead. Indians manager Eric Wedges protested the game, arguing the run can't be counted later.
"I don't blame Eric for protesting the call since it was our screw up," Montague said. "But we can't take away a run on my screw up. Eric was great about it. He understood, but he had to protest."

DocTee
May 03 2007 10:37 AM

A's deal Ryan Langerhans to Washingotn for Chris Snelling.

Langerhans played two games with Oakland and was hitless. He also misplayed a line drive for a two base error in yesterday's game.

That will be three teams in five days for him.