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IGT 5/6 - 3rd Sweep in a Row at Arizona? - Pelfrey vs. Livan

Elster88 May 06 2007 10:56 AM

Broomsticks

Gwreck May 06 2007 01:22 PM

New York Mets Reyes SS Newhan LF Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Green RF Castro C Gotay 2B Pelfrey P =darkred]Arizona Diamondbacks Chris Young CF Conor Jackson 1B Orlando Hudson 2B Eric Byrnes LF Stephen Drew SS Carlos Quentin RF Miguel Montero C Alberto Callaspo 3B Livan Hernandez P

Edgy DC May 06 2007 01:25 PM

'Bout time.

Nymr83 May 06 2007 01:39 PM

Newhan 2nd? that just stupid, move Wright up...or just dont start newhan and use castro.

Elster88 May 06 2007 01:40 PM

Alou update?

Edgy DC May 06 2007 02:08 PM

Nymr83 wrote: Newhan 2nd? that just stupid, move Wright up...or just dont start newhan and use castro. I think the idea is to get him in a good situation to get him going. He and Castro are pretty similar level hitters over the courses of their respective careers, with --- unsurprisingly --- Newhan the better reacher and Castro the better slugger.

Nymr83 May 06 2007 02:22 PM

i've got a great situation to "get him going"- the starting LF job in New Orleans. As far as Castro goes, he plays a great defensive Catcher which makes him valuable, i don't want him hittig 2nd either. Play Chavez.

Elster88 May 06 2007 02:32 PM

]He and Castro are pretty similar level hitters over the courses of their respective careers, with --- unsurprisingly --- Newhan the better reacher and Castro the better slugger. Castro career: OBP .307, SLG .392 Newhan career: OBP .315, .SLG 382 I remember in late '05 when some fans (no on here off the top of my head) were clamoring for Castro to start over Piazza.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 02:36 PM

Nymr83 wrote: i've got a great situation to "get him going"- the starting LF job in New Orleans. They acquired him for a reason. Nymr83 wrote: As far as Castro goes, he plays a great defensive Catcher which makes him valuable, i don't want him hittig 2nd either. Then Cripes, don't suggest it.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 02:42 PM

'Backs are wearing solid jerseys at home. They look bad enough when we do it in black.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 02:45 PM

Forget it. Beltran's been scratched. Reyes, SS Chavez, CF Wright, 3B Delgado, 1B Green, RF Castro, C Newhan, LF Gotay, 2B Pelfrey, P

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2007 02:46 PM

Gameday has a different lineup: Reyes Endy CF Wright Delgado Green Castro Newhan LF Gotay Pelfrey Beltran resting some sore legs sez the radio??

Elster88 May 06 2007 02:46 PM

="Gwreck"]New York Mets Reyes SS Newhan LF Beltran CF Delgado 1B Wright 3B Green RF Castro C Gotay 2B Pelfrey P =darkred]Arizona Diamondbacks Chris Young CF Conor Jackson 1B Orlando Hudson 2B Eric Byrnes LF Stephen Drew SS Carlos Quentin RF Miguel Montero C Alberto Callaspo 3B Livan Hernandez P The actual lineup is Reyes SS Chavez CF Wright 3B Delgado 1B Green RF Castro C Newhan LF Gotay 2B Pelfrey P Looks like a late Beltran scratch.

Rockin' Doc May 06 2007 02:48 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 06 2007 02:50 PM

I don't like today's line up much. With Newhan, Gotay, and Castro all starting in place of regulars it appears that Willie is more concerned with resting players than winning today. I can understand resting LoDuca, but Damion Easley shouldn't be in need of a rest and Chavez should still be pretty fresh. If you going to rest Chavez to give some one a start, why not at least do it against a tough lefhanded pitcher? Upon Edit: I like that line up even less. Hopefully, there isn't anything wrong with Beltran.

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2007 02:50 PM

Lineup hawks in this room. Hawks, I tell you. Edit: And I'm Hawk Taylor. Excellent.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 02:58 PM

Easley is A) Too bad to be a backup. B) Too good to yield to a backup.

Elster88 May 06 2007 03:00 PM

Pelfrey being Pelfrey.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 03:04 PM

First two defensive plays by Newhan he sort of seems awkward out there. Maybe I'm wrong.

Rockin' Doc May 06 2007 03:11 PM

Edgy - "Easley is A) Too bad to be a backup. B) Too good to yield to a backup." The correct answer would be (C) Better than Gotay or Newhan. I don't personally recall ever arguing the point that Easley was not good enough to be a backup to Valentin. If we were discussing Anderson Hernandez, that would be another matter.

Benjamin Grimm May 06 2007 03:16 PM

Delgado looks a bit like Keith, turning a 3-6-3 double play.

Benjamin Grimm May 06 2007 03:29 PM

Ronnie shares an anecdote about Junior Ortiz. "His English wasn't great, and his Spanish wasn't great either." He spoke with a stutter, and he'd chew tobacco. When he'd come to the mound to talk, he'd be stuttering and drooling tobacco juice and it took him ten minutes to say whatever he had to say. This is why it's so nice to have announcers with a history with the team. A crew of new guys wouldn't have Junior Ortiz anecdotes.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 04:02 PM

Hey, Mets, this game isn't going to win itself.

Gwreck May 06 2007 04:43 PM

Can't believe Reyes didn't get an error on that play.

cooby May 06 2007 04:46 PM

what are they saying about Alou?

A Boy Named Seo May 06 2007 04:52 PM

David Wright's shoes look crazy.

Edgy DC May 06 2007 05:22 PM

Easley, come here, I need you.

Rockin' Doc May 06 2007 05:26 PM

Seo - "David Wright's shoes look crazy." Ugly is more the word that comes to my mind. I wonder how much he's being paid to where those monstrosities.

Rockin' Doc May 06 2007 05:29 PM

Is Beltran available to pinch hit for Schoeneweis?

Kid Carsey May 06 2007 05:30 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 06 2007 05:31 PM

c: >>>what are they saying about Alou?<<< Late in the game, now, they say he ain't gonna bat. Earlier in the game, they said he'd probably play tomorrow night in SF. Lotsa video, seems like six or seven shots of him eating sunflower seeds and spittin' the shells over the course of the afternoon. Beltran fouls out to the catcher ... streak over.

Batty31 May 06 2007 05:30 PM

There goes the winning streak in Arizona...

Nymr83 May 06 2007 05:33 PM

Radio mentions the Mets lineup the last time they lost in Arizona- none of them are still on the Mets.

Willets Point May 06 2007 05:50 PM

I blame this loss on Elster's hubris in the title and first post.

Gwreck May 06 2007 05:51 PM

We needed a PH for either Newhan or Gotay. You either use Alou or not play him in the field or you use LoDuca. I like getting the bench players ABs too, but when the game is on the line, do you use Moises Alou or do you use David Newhan? Loved that Moises was anxious to get in the game, too, just sittin' there, spittin the sunflower seeds. Both Ron and Gary said over the course of the game that because the Met bench had done well previously, that it was more likely that Newhan (Ron) or Gotay (Gary) would come up with a big hit. Somehow I missed that day of logic school, given that it was Castro/Easley/Franco who had been coming up with the hits off the bench.

Nymr83 May 06 2007 05:59 PM

="Willets Point"]I blame this loss on Elster's hubris in the title and first post. you know what to do.

cooby May 06 2007 06:35 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: c: >>>what are they saying about Alou?<<< Late in the game, now, they say he ain't gonna bat. Earlier in the game, they said he'd probably play tomorrow night in SF. . Danke, I'm trying to decide whether to put him on reserves

Centerfield May 07 2007 01:44 PM

Talk about a complete suck-ass day in baseball. My son sleeps in the afternoon, but because of the late start, rather than catching the Mets game, I had to settle for Yanks-Mariners and Braves-Dodgers. During the Yanks telecast, I watched the M's get shut out, then nearly puked watching the crowd go crazy when Asshead announced he was returning. Then in the Braves game, I watch Grady Little leave in his reliever, who clearly has nothing, long enough for the guy to give up 5 runs and the lead. It's getting to the point that I wonder if Grady knows he's allowed to make pitching changes in the middle of an inning. Mets lose. Beltran scratched, Alou still not available. Suckass suckass suckass.

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2007 01:51 PM

Grady is lucky to have gotten a second managing job after that disaster in 2003. I never would have hired him for any position other than "Dumb Guy."

Edgy DC May 07 2007 01:53 PM

Do you have such an opening? 'Cause I can start real soon.

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2007 02:12 PM

If you're smart enough to send a resume, then you're overqualified. That's why we're having trouble filling the position.

Centerfield May 07 2007 02:51 PM

Well there's always Art Howe.