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Pelfrey optioned to AAA, Gomez up

GYC
May 13 2007 11:39 AM

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20070513&content_id=1962150&vkey=pr_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

05/13/2007 10:57 AM ET
Mets recall Gomez, option Pelfrey


The New York Mets today recalled outfielder Carlos Gomez from New Orleans (AAA) of the Pacific Coast League and optioned righthanded pitcher Mike Pelfrey to the Zephyrs. Gomez will wear #27 and will be available for today's game vs. Milwaukee.
Gomez, 21, was hitting .286 (40-140) with 24 runs scored, eight doubles, two triples, two home runs, 13 RBI, 17 stolen bases with 15 walks and 23 strikeouts in 36 games this year with New Orleans. Gomez is leading the PCL in stolen bases.

Carlos batted .222 (2-9) with one run scored and two RBI in 10 spring training games for the Mets.

He was the co-winner of the Sterling Award, emblematic of the Most Valuable Player at Binghamton (AA) of the Eastern League in 2006. Gomez finished second in the EL with 41 stolen bases and fifth with eight triples. Carlos also batted .281 (121-430) with 53 runs scored, 24 doubles, seven home runs and 48 RBI with Binghamton.

The 6-4, 195-pounder was signed by New York as a non-drafted free agent on July 27, 2002.

Mike Pelfrey was 0-5 with a 6.53 ERA in six starts for New York. Thursday's starter against the Cubs is to be determined.

OlerudOwned
May 13 2007 11:41 AM

Gomez. Wow.

Yancy Street Gang
May 13 2007 11:42 AM

]Thursday's starter against the Cubs is to be determined.


Will Hernandez be ready?

Will Sele get the nod?

Or will somebody be promoted? Park? Humber?

Johnny Dickshot
May 13 2007 11:48 AM

Interesting news!

I suppose Go-Go helps Alou's wonkiness while we mull the decision. As I noted in Pelfrey or Die, Pelfrey needs a good deal of work at AAA.

Nymr83
May 13 2007 11:51 AM

sucks for Pelfrey, but he earned the demotion. I'm suprised they were willing to "start the clock" on Gomez for what will likely be a short stay.

I'd have to think that if el duque isn't ready they call on Park again.... the Mets broadcasters said yesterday that Humber just isnt ready. Whether or not they could turn to Sele probably depends on whether he is needed before then (which given his role I'd hope he isn't.)

OlerudOwned
May 13 2007 11:52 AM

One of the many (many, many) advantages of the big market money is the ability to start the clock on top prospects without having to worry about being able to afford them.

metirish
May 13 2007 12:02 PM

I'm excited t see Gomez.

Yancy Street Gang
May 13 2007 12:03 PM

I wonder if he starts today.

I figure the outfield will be Beltran, Green, and either Gomez or Endy.

Yancy Street Gang
May 13 2007 12:07 PM

Lefty starter for the Brewers today, so maybe it'll be Gomez.

metirish
May 13 2007 12:07 PM

Willie seems to like to get them in straight away...

Johnny Dickshot
May 13 2007 12:37 PM

Lineup's posted, Chavvy in left, Gomie in right

Frayed Knot
May 13 2007 01:09 PM

Somewhat surprising in that there's no obvious replacement for Pelfrey's next start as it sounds like at least one go 'round until El Ducky is ready.

But I guess they didn't want to send Pelfrey out there again w/o getting a AAA tune-up and they didn't want to send down position player w/Alou on the shelf for a bit ... or longer.

Green has some ugly looking numbers against Capuano so I like throwing the kid into the mess immediately.
"Starting the clock" on him is really no big deal. He was already on the 40 and if this only turns into a week or two stay then those days aren't going to make much difference in the long run. And if we're worried about not being able to send him down 3 years from now because we burned an option in May of '07 then the progress he's been making up to this point has stalled and the options thingie is the least of our worries.

seawolf17
May 13 2007 02:01 PM

Gomez up! Nice! (Lastings who?)

Frayed Knot
May 13 2007 02:12 PM

Poor Lastings can't catch a break.

- gets drafted despite stories of past improprieties, then has his signing delayed due to renewed (and ulimately untrue) stories about the same incident.

- then breaks his finger in the early weeks of his first season, effectively delaying the start of his career until just about a year after the draft

- gets left off the post-season roster when he probably could have been used

- makes the team after a great Spring Training but mostly sits due to big contracts in front of him then gets sent down when those contracts get off to fast starts

- gets hurt in the minor legues just before an opening comes up top

OlerudOwned
May 13 2007 02:30 PM

Which brings up an interesting scenario. If Gomez shows he can hold his own in the Majors at just 21 years old, and Fernando Martinez continues to impress as a 19-year old in Double-A, does Milledge finally get traded. Seriously. For real this time.

Rockin' Doc
May 13 2007 03:24 PM

Going into the season, I was hopeful that Pelfrey would be able to get the job done as the fifth man in the starting rotation. Unfortunately, he just doesn't seem ready for the majors at this stage in his career. Hopefully, he can work on a few things in New Orleans to better prepare him for the future.

Nymr83
May 13 2007 04:40 PM

I would say that after this season if the Mets aren't ready to hand Milledge a starting job in 2008 they should trade him over the offseason before his trade value further declines

iramets
May 13 2007 04:56 PM

I notice no one has mentioned Willie's remark after Saturday's game that Pelfrey will get another start later this week.

Didn't mention that it would come in New Orleans, though, did he?

Clueless or lying? You make the call.

seawolf17
May 13 2007 06:34 PM

Neither; could be that they just changed their minds. They're allowed to do that. They wanted to see what Gomez could bring to the table, and wanted to make room for him.

smg58
May 13 2007 06:57 PM

There may be two outfield spots open if Alou's option isn't picked up, so I still wouldn't assume Milledge is going anywhere. Plus somebody has to offer fair value in return, which really doesn't seem to have happened yet.

Willie's comments could have easily been made before they had a fair idea how many games Alou would miss. People do change their minds in this business, too.

metirish
May 13 2007 07:13 PM

iramets wrote:
I notice no one has mentioned Willie's remark after Saturday's game that Pelfrey will get another start later this week.

Didn't mention that it would come in New Orleans, though, did he?

Clueless or lying? You make the call.


Willie's a flip flopper...

iramets
May 13 2007 07:32 PM

seawolf17 wrote:
Neither; could be that they just changed their minds. They're allowed to do that. They wanted to see what Gomez could bring to the table, and wanted to make room for him.


In a few hours? If it's true, which I doubt very much , thank you, this just shows the utter uselessness of attaching any sigificance whatsoever to his pronouncements. What he actually does matters; what he says he does is a total waste of your time and his time.

"Willie, what's your feelings on Pelfrey at this point?"

"He's a piece of crap. We're sending him to AAA asap to see if he can get a clue about pitching on this level. He's totally not ready for MLB hitters, and he's outta here" and "Well, the kid had a rough day, and while you can't call it bad luck, because up here you make your own luck, he just hasn't had a lot of hitting support, and sometimes fielding support, but we think he's coming around, and we'll see how does in his next srtart on Thursday, for sure, before we make any hard and fast decisions" both mean about the same.

Yancy Street Gang
May 13 2007 07:39 PM

I don't think there's anyone here who pays more attention to his "pronouncements" than you do.

So, why do you?

vtmet
May 13 2007 08:54 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Poor Lastings can't catch a break.

- gets drafted despite stories of past improprieties, then has his signing delayed due to renewed (and ulimately untrue) stories about the same incident.

- then breaks his finger in the early weeks of his first season, effectively delaying the start of his career until just about a year after the draft

- gets left off the post-season roster when he probably could have been used

- makes the team after a great Spring Training but mostly sits due to big contracts in front of him then gets sent down when those contracts get off to fast starts

- gets hurt in the minor legues just before an opening comes up top


Mr Milledge...if you are starting to hear some footsteps, then get used to it and start taking some grounders...CF is full, RF and LF are showing promise of being full...but 2B is wide open...

Nymr83
May 13 2007 09:22 PM

or start hitting some homers and maybe we can find you a nice home in sunny south florida for dontrelle willis.
the young marlins are pretty set at every position going forward except CF and C.

Nymr83
May 13 2007 09:24 PM

re: willie, yeah sal i have no idea what that was about. my best guess is that when he said it he had not spoken to minaya yet about gomez, then they got together and decided to bring gomez up and he was the obvious choice to send down.

Frayed Knot
May 13 2007 09:33 PM

There's also the possiblity that if Alou needs to get DL'd then Pelfrey will be re-called to take his place. The injury would negate the 10-day rule.

Nymr83
May 13 2007 09:39 PM

very true, and certainly a possibility that the Mets thought of, if that happens I think Sal owes willie an apology. I'll apologize too since i agree with Sal even though i tried pointing out other explanations.

iramets
May 13 2007 09:52 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
I don't think there's anyone here who pays more attention to his "pronouncements" than you do.

So, why do you?


I merely mark his pronouncements because the lot of you are determined to file them away under N for "Never Said That."

Seriously, when he stuffs his foot into his mouth up the the knee, why is it of such little note? is he speaking out of turn, with no consiltation with his bosses (in which case, why ask and and why listen to what he says?) Or is he given to confident predictions of policy regarding players about which he simply changes his mind on zero notice (in which case, likewise)? I'd just like you all to get your stories straight.

In regard to FK's point, do you really think it's wise to keep throwing Pelfrey out there at this point? Would you care to take a position on whether Pelfrey's pitched well enough to stay? Or is your position simply "Whatever the Mets do, is the correct move to have been made"?

Gwreck
May 13 2007 09:59 PM

iramets wrote:
Seriously, when he stuffs his foot into his mouth up the the knee, why is it of such little note?


1. 23-13.
2. Because it's of little consequence.

Frayed Knot
May 13 2007 10:08 PM

And back to the Gomez topic for a sec;
I think I've already spouted off on this before, but don't be too quick to assume that Gomez has made Lastings expendable.

Gomez is actually a shade older making his ML debut than Milledge was making his last summer and Lastings already had more AA time plus some AAA under his belt by then. He was also rated - and still is - considerably higher than Gomez by those prospects surveys. Gomez still has yet to show much power in the minors and needs work on plate discipline; not uncommon shortcomings for developing players, but not every prospect overcomes them.

In effect, Gomez needs a good season in the minors this year just to get himself to where Milledge was, and I don't think Milledge has fallen all that far - especially after a good ST - except maybe to those eyes who are looking at his age 21/22 seasons as make or break. I trust most teams (including his own) aren't going to do that.

One could even envision a scenario where the NYM "whispers" that have made their way to newspapers since the Spring about Gomez possibly passing Milledge by in some eyes is in-house hype in order to pump up then trade HIM, counting on his raw athleticism and "potential" to attract, and maybe extract, a king's ransom.
Speed may still be over-valued by many, even in this post-Moneyball world.

Nymr83
May 13 2007 10:26 PM

its not really Gomez alone that i see as the issue, there Martinez coming along as well, the Mets may very well see Milledge as the most tradeable of the three based on a combination of talent and trade value

Frayed Knot
May 13 2007 10:45 PM

And it's not like I have a philosophical objection to trading Milledge. Hell, I'll trade anyone if it'll help the team and I'm pretty sure Omar will too. (I was reminded this week that he once dealt Grady Sizemore ... albeit under different circumstances).

It's just that I'm sensing a growing school of thought among Met fans (not just here) that Milledge is now something akin to excess baggage because of Gomez & Martinez as if the success of those two is more assured than his. Much of that speculation is a product of the backup quarterback syndrome.