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Urdaneta's Pee: Guilty

Johnny Dickshot May 16 2007 12:24 PM

See ya in 50 games.

metirish May 16 2007 12:25 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 16 2007 12:26 PM

or not..... Seems like the Mets could do better job educating these guys,or something.

Gwreck May 16 2007 12:26 PM

Source? Still looking for something definitive on this.

metirish May 16 2007 12:27 PM

When did the Mets know about this,before he was sent down?

Edgy DC May 16 2007 12:28 PM

Yer up. Yer down. Urine. Yer out.

Centerfield May 16 2007 12:44 PM

Geez imagine what his ERA would have been without dope.

Edgy DC May 16 2007 12:45 PM

I think the Mets would be magnanimous if they volunteered to retroactively forfeit any games that Urdaneta has been found to have pitched in.

Centerfield May 16 2007 12:46 PM

Or at least replay them.

iramets May 16 2007 05:33 PM

A fish starts stinking at the head.

Nymr83 May 16 2007 08:48 PM

i don't have a list, but its starting to seem like a disproportionate number of guys caught with 'Roids have been 1) Mets and 2) Pitchers.

soupcan May 16 2007 09:00 PM

iramets wrote: A fish starts stinking at the head. If Lino Urdaneta was the 'head' of the fish we call the Mets, well then I'd be worried. As it stands, I ain't. ="Nymr83"]i don't have a list, but its starting to seem like a disproportionate number of guys caught with 'Roids have been 1) Mets and 2) Pitchers. Supposedly the numbers from the Mets are about the average league-wide.

Frayed Knot May 16 2007 09:11 PM

The last list I saw showing the number of catch-ees by organization (including both major & minor leaguers) had the Mets near the top but not quite at it, IIRC.

iramets May 17 2007 05:26 AM

According to [url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spwally175216650may17,0,6542204.column?coll=ny-mets-print] Wally Matthews,[/url] whom we all know to be a filthy lying motherfucker, the Mets' organization is WAY high on the list of steroids-tolerant organizations.

Johnny Dickshot May 17 2007 08:19 AM

Seriously dumb quote by Jeffy, kudos to Matthews (and Filip Bondy) for not interpreting it quite as literally stupid as it looks in print. That said, steroids is an epidemic. I don't think there's any team that's more guilty than the next, necessarily. It would be interesting to know more about how and why these guys keep getting nailed.

MFS62 May 17 2007 09:56 AM

Oops - wrong thread. Later

Benjamin Grimm May 17 2007 10:02 AM

="Wallace Matthews"]The Mets are far from the squeaky-clean organization their owner and his kid would have you believe. And who knows how much further the story will go once the music starts playing for Kirk Radom- ski, former Shea laundry boy turned federal drug informant? In fact, listening to Kid Wilpon, it sure sounded as if the Mets' concern was not so much eliminating steroids as it was eliminating positive steroids tests. "We like to be a stand-up organization and keep a real good eye on it to try to educate our kids," he said. "I have a call later with the nutritionist to see, are we doing anything wrong, can we do anything better to try to help these young men so they don't test positive. Ouch. It really is hard to put a positive spin on resigning Mota to a two-year deal after he had tested positive, and structuring the contract so that he wouldn't be pinched financially by his suspension. Bad move, and it's going to be made worse by bad timing, as Mota's return is almost simultaneous with the start of Urdaneta's suspension.

metirish May 17 2007 10:05 AM

I might find it hard to say good things about signing Mota after the steroids but in all honesty I'll not care if when he comes back he pitches like he did last year after coming over.

duan May 17 2007 10:06 AM

what's more interesting to is that the a large number of positive tests have been by what could be best described as 'marginal relievers'. two theories here 1. Guys with most to make/least to lose from juicing are guys who go from being 26th men to 25th. 2. Relievers are the people who need help (usage patterns & recovery time probs) the most.

Edgy DC May 17 2007 10:24 AM

When was the last positive cocaine test? It's like steroids has cured baseball of the scourge of coke.

seawolf17 May 17 2007 11:17 AM

It seems like a lot of the positive tests have been Latino players, too. Is there a list somewhere?

metirish May 17 2007 11:25 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_suspended_for_steroids List needs to be updated I think.

Johnny Dickshot May 17 2007 11:57 AM

seawolf17 wrote: It seems like a lot of the positive tests have been Latino players, too. Sterooids are easy to get in places like Mexico (whjere Urdaneta was previously employed) and in the DR, where I'm not eeven sure they're illegal. Also, I'd guess many Latin scrubeenos have a lot to lose just by failing to be a Latin scrubeeno.

Edgy DC May 17 2007 12:01 PM

Scott Schoeneweis fails to make the Mets, he's got a history degree from Duke. Waner Mateo may be cutting sugar cane back in the DR.