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Will They Suck Again? Orange Basketball '07-'08

Methead May 16 2007 10:39 AM

Too soon? Anyway... aside from the exciting news regarding the incoming freshmen, the university has formally announced that Mike Hopkins will take over the head coaching duties for Jim Boeheim. Whenever Boeheim decides to call it quits. I like it. He's a great recruiter, and he's already been coaching with the program something like 12 years if I'm not mistaken.

Rockin' Doc May 16 2007 10:52 AM

I think it's great that Syracuse thought ahead and will reward a coach from within, but Boeheim isn't that close to retiring is he?

Methead May 16 2007 11:01 AM

I don't think so.

soupcan May 16 2007 11:24 AM

Boeheim's been there as a coach for 32 years. As a player an additional 3. When the Big East expanded a couple of years ago he made cryptic comments to the effect that he would only be there another 5 years. So maybe he wants three more years to make it an even 35 as a coach.

Centerfield May 16 2007 12:18 PM

I wonder how binding that title is. What happens if it comes out in a year that Mike Hopkins has violated several NCAA rules and has sex with goats? Does he still get the job?

Methead May 16 2007 12:49 PM

I'm not sure that actually violates any NCAA rules.

Methead Jun 28 2007 09:37 AM

Josh Pace was recently named the MVP of the New Zealand basketball league. Who even knew they had a league? http://blog.syracuse.com/cnypros/2007/06/pace_named_mvp.html

Centerfield Jun 28 2007 11:18 AM

I was recently named the best basketball player that resides in my apartment.

Willets Point Jun 28 2007 11:25 AM

Hey, me too!

Centerfield Oct 10 2007 02:04 PM

Andy Rautins out for the season with a torn ACL leaving this year's "white guy who shoots threes" role up for grabs.

Methead Oct 10 2007 03:08 PM

Hopefully he can be replaced by a guy who makes threes. ZING! But seriously, I felt like this year would have been a big step forward in his development. Looks like Boeheim will have to run Josh Wright out there a lot more often than he'd like. On the other hand, the incoming class looks great.

soupcan Oct 10 2007 04:15 PM

I had a converstaion this past weekend with a guy whose son is a freshman at 'Cuse and he told me that one of their highly prized recruits had reneged. Of course he didn't know which one. Haven't seen or heard anything about that. Has anyone? The guy was a Brown alum, maybe he heard the Rautins news and got the story screwed up. You know how those Ivy League types are.

Centerfield Oct 10 2007 05:08 PM

I hadn't heard anything about that. I do know that Matt Roe wants to you to buy insurance. http://www.statefarm.com/apps/agentLoc/AgentInformation.asp?na=US&st=52&ofc=7409

soupcan Oct 10 2007 07:52 PM

BALD!!

soupcan Oct 11 2007 01:03 PM

By the way CF - how the hell did you find this?

Centerfield Oct 11 2007 02:05 PM

Why, shopping for car insurance, of course. Just kidding. There was some "Where are they now?" story on Syracuse.com.

Methead Oct 15 2007 09:56 PM

Josh Pace is back in the USA. I wonder if anyone will join him in East Kentucky? http://www.ekminers.com/miners/index.html

Centerfield Oct 16 2007 08:21 AM

He's a one man team.

soupcan Oct 17 2007 10:05 AM Re: Will They Suck Again? Orange Basketball '07-'08

="Methead"]Too soon? Anyway... aside from the exciting news regarding the incoming freshmen, the university has formally announced that Mike Hopkins will take over the head coaching duties for Jim Boeheim. Whenever Boeheim decides to call it quits. I like it. He's a great recruiter, and he's already been coaching with the program something like 12 years if I'm not mistaken. Official announcement...? Today's NYTimes... October 16, 2007 Hopkins Is Boeheim’s Designated Successor at Syracuse By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) -- Jim Boeheim has known for a while who he wanted to succeed him as head coach of the Syracuse Orange when he decides to retire, and now it's official that assistant coach Mike Hopkins is the man. Hopkins said Tuesday that he had reached an agreement on a plan to succeed the Hall of Fame coach. "Just to be thought of like that by a guy who I respect, one of the greatest coaches of all time, it's very flattering. I'm very humbled," said Hopkins, who grew up in California. "Syracuse is the place where I got married. I've been here now 18 years. He (Boeheim) is just constantly telling me new things and just educating me. Being around Coach and being around (associate head coach) Bernie (Fine), I've had a great bunch of mentors. They've really been there for me." Hopkins, who played guard at Syracuse from 1988 to 1993, is in his 13th season on Boeheim's staff. "Jim isn't going anywhere, but Mike is my next coach," athletic director Daryl Gross said, adding that it was premature to talk about the future because Boeheim has given no indication he plans to retire anytime soon. Gross declined to offer details of the agreement in deference to Boeheim, who turns 63 in November and has given no indication he plans to retire anytime soon. In 31 seasons at his alma mater, Boeheim has a 750-264 record and has led Syracuse to 25 NCAA tournament appearances, three Final Fours and the 2003 national championship. Boeheim was in meetings Tuesday and not immediately available for comment. Hopkins, a Syracuse captain for Boeheim in 1992 and 1993, joined his staff in 1995 and five years later was given his first chance to recruit. He has lured Gerry McNamara, Hakim Warrick, Demetris Nichols, sophomore Paul Harris and current freshman Jonny Flynn to Syracuse. Boeheim has been Hopkins' biggest supporter and designating Hopkins as the heir apparent eliminates the chance Hopkins might leave to take a head coaching job elsewhere. Hopkins was a fan favorite when he played, known for his hustle and scrappy play. He expects to bring those elements to the bench. "I'm going to coach how I played. I'm going to hug and kiss you after the game, and I'm sure during practice the competitive fire will come out a little bit," Hopkins said. "That's what's fun. I love the relationships in recruiting. I love the relationships in the community. This thing is a family. It's not about me or these other guys. It's about the bigger picture." In May, ESPN cited multiple sources in reporting that Hopkins would be officially named as Boeheim's successor but said there was no timetable. The ESPN report said the university had reached an agreement to put a succession plan in writing and said the move had been in the works for months. University officials said at the time there was nothing to report.

Centerfield Oct 17 2007 12:45 PM

Mookie Jones (top 50 recruit) committed to play at Syracuse next year. Always fun to root for a Mookie.

HahnSolo Oct 17 2007 12:59 PM

Not so fast... ]In interviews with the Daily Orange and the Post-Standard of Syracuse, N.Y., Syracuse University athletics director Daryl Gross shot down an Associated Press report that an agreement is in place to make assistant coach Mike Hopkins the successor to longtime coach Jim Boeheim and said his comments to the AP had been taken out of context. "That story is not very accurate, and I find that it's very premature to even be talking about it, and I indicated that to them," Gross told the Daily Orange. "Everything that they talked to me about has totally been taken out of context, and I'm not very appreciative of what was reported." Taken from ESPN.com

Fman99 Oct 25 2007 08:02 PM

This is what I am looking forward to, what with the awful performance of the 2007 Jets thus far.

Methead Oct 25 2007 09:29 PM

Well, I don't think they're going to have a GREAT season... but I feel like they're building toward a couple of them, at least.

Methead Nov 05 2007 08:15 AM

Well, they played an actual game. 80-71 exhibition win over St. Rose, in which Boeheim played the kids a lot. Josh Wright didn't even suit up. Donte Greene / Johnny Flynn could be the real deal. Greene is 6'11" (I had no idea) and can shoot the three (made 3 of 4). Flynn had 9 assists, only one turnover. Of course, the rest of the team turned the ball over 20 times... hopefully they can work on that. Glad to have Onuaku back as well.

HahnSolo Nov 12 2007 09:19 AM

The Rams of Fordham head to the Dome Friday night. I don't hold out much hope that Fordham will win, but will point out that they return 5 senior starters from an Atlantic 10 team that won 18 games last year. So they are not a pushover. Fordham should at least make a game of it, though I suspect the Orange will not overlook anybody after last year's Drexel loss.

Centerfield Nov 12 2007 11:06 AM

I'm really excited about the start of this season. I know it's a young team, and there will be some growing pains, but I have heard great things about this recruiting class. Plus, the last time we featured a freshman forward, a freshman point guard and a sophomore following a disappointing freshman year, things turned out pretty good. I'm hoping this team gets itself ranked and makes the Sweet 16 this year.

Centerfield Nov 13 2007 12:01 PM

It looks to be a fun team. I'm ecstatic that the Nichols-Watkins-Roberts class is gone. I don't know if Johnny Flynn is as good as he was last night, but holy crap, that guy can play. Nice effort from Donte Green and Rick Jackson too.

Methead Nov 13 2007 12:24 PM

Funny how it seems like they've been playing together for half a season already. I love the fact that no one's even talking about Devendorf or Harris. I hate the fact that I didn't program the DVR for tonight's game.

HahnSolo Nov 13 2007 12:41 PM

St. Joe's will be a test tonight. Their big guy, Ahmad Nivins, will give everybody fits this year. And you know Martelli will have the rest of the team ready.

soupcan Nov 13 2007 12:46 PM

ESPN or ESPN2 tonight I believe.

Methead Nov 13 2007 02:20 PM

I also hate the fact that I can't just log in to my Cablevision account and program my DVR that way.

Fman99 Nov 13 2007 08:13 PM

I completely blanked and forgot about this. Stumbled across it going around the dial and caught the last 4 minutes of game time. Good stuff. These kids are fun to watch.

Centerfield Nov 14 2007 08:04 AM

Jonny Flynn bitches!

soupcan Nov 14 2007 08:33 AM

I had a hard time watching that one. Turned it on at the start and they are down 10-0. Turned it off to put the kids to bed. Turned it back on and they are up something like 18-17. They proceed to promptly blow that lead and go back down before going into halftime up 33-30. Turned it off at the half to do some other things. Turned it back on shortly after halftime and they are up 10. They blow that lead and its a tie game again. The last 5 minutes they could not pull away and it was anybody's game. Jonny Flynn (bitches!) hits a 3 while I'm screaming at him not to, which appears to ice the game but St. Joe's still manages to get a good look for a possible game-tying last shot. Whew. I like Flynn (bitches!). On Edit: Tom Glavine? Really? He's the 40th best player the Mets have ever had? That's just sad.

Methead Nov 14 2007 12:31 PM

Here's a great Syracuse sports blog... scroll down (past the story about MacNamara being cut from his Greek team) for the "In Like Flynn" post. Entertaining. http://nunesmagician.blogspot.com/

soupcan Nov 15 2007 08:58 AM

A little FYI. Should I invest in a coupla tix for that championship game on the 23rd? 'Cuse - A&M?

HahnSolo Nov 15 2007 09:34 AM

It is the night before Thanksgiving. My inclination would be go for the semifinals. Those are two pretty good games.

Rockin' Doc Nov 15 2007 04:27 PM

With Greg Oden and Mike Conley, Jr. gone, this isn't quite as formidable a team as Ohio State had last season. However, the Buckeyes should offer a big step up in the quality of opposition for Syracuse. This game should serve as a good test to evaluate where Syracuse is in their development as a team at this early juncture in the season.

HahnSolo Nov 16 2007 02:26 PM

Just got a late alert from the Fordham alumni office. Tonight's game at the Dome will be aired by SNY at 7PM.

Methead Nov 16 2007 03:03 PM

Excellent news! I was hoping someone would air the game. Thanks for the update!

soupcan Nov 16 2007 07:05 PM

And the Orange show Fordham the Bronx as they bat them by a healthy 18 points. Glad I got to watch it but the broadcast quality was horrible.

Methead Nov 16 2007 10:18 PM

"broadcast quality was horrible" Good, it wasn't just my TV. I think I like this team... should be an interesting matchup with Ohio State next week. A nice early-season test. I might have a man-crush on Donte Green. If he stays on campus longer than a year... then NEXT year's team will be crazy good. Everyone will be coming back. Well, they would lose Josh Wright, but oh well.

HahnSolo Nov 17 2007 03:13 PM

Fordham played terribly (does Dunston ever need someone to help him in the frontcourt), but man, this Syracuse team can be scary good. Good luck the rest of the way.

soupcan Nov 19 2007 08:23 AM

Not gonna go on Wednesday. City's gonna be dead by 1:00 and then I'm supposed to hang around for a 9:00 game? Nah. If they win Wednesday then I'll try to grab a seat for Friday.

soupcan Nov 20 2007 11:49 AM

]Syracuse has moved up to No. 21 in both the Associated Press and the ESPN/USA Today polls. A week ago, the Orange was 25th in the ESPN poll and just outside the AP poll. The Big East had six teams in the AP Top 25. Georgetown was at No. 5, Louisville at No. 6, Marquette at No. 11, Pittsburgh at No. 17, Villanova at No. 20 and Syracuse at No. 21.

Methead Nov 21 2007 07:55 PM

I'm sure you dudes are busy watching the game right now... but I have to say I haven't seen a Syracuse team able to move the ball around like this in a long time.

soupcan Nov 21 2007 08:05 PM

I'm watching 'Cuse and was just thinking the same thing.

Methead Nov 21 2007 09:16 PM

It would be nice to see a little defense... or offense... to go along with the ball movement. This guy Koufos is ridiculous.

Centerfield Nov 29 2007 08:54 AM

Maybe they're not as good as we were hoping.

soupcan Nov 29 2007 09:02 AM

But that was always a possibility. With all these good young guys you're not sure what you're going to get this year. Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle...or not. Even so, if these kids stay together they will be good in the coming years. So they can't play defense right now, they'll learn the 2-3 eventually and they can already score. Immediate future looks bright.

Fman99 Nov 29 2007 09:28 AM

="soupcan"]But that was always a possibility. With all these good young guys you're not sure what you're going to get this year. Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle...or not. Even so, if these kids stay together they will be good in the coming years. So they can't play defense right now, they'll learn the 2-3 eventually and they can already score. Immediate future looks bright. I meant to watch it but couldn't find it on the TV. The defense will come - the 2-3 takes time and they have a lot of kids on the floor this year. The offensive potential has me pretty jazzed.

HahnSolo Nov 29 2007 09:37 AM

UMass is talented. That is not a terrible loss.

Rockin' Doc Nov 29 2007 11:23 AM

Duke has taken to playing a 2-3 zone defense at times this year. They seem to use it as a change of pace to their full court man to man pressure. The teams call for the defense is "orange" in tribute to Jim Boeheim, who shared some of the intracacies of the defense with Mike Krzyzewski during their work with Team USA this past summer.

Centerfield Dec 17 2007 11:53 AM

Devendorf out for the year with a torn ACL. We might be looking at the NIT guys.

soupcan Dec 17 2007 08:19 PM

Well that sucks, but these guys weren't going far with the nonexistent defense anyway. Did you see they scored 125 and beat - was it Middle Tennessee State? - by 50 points? I think they had something like 68 points in the first half..

soupcan Dec 18 2007 07:37 AM

DON'T GET FOOLED BY FRESHMAN HYPE December 18, 2007 -- COUNT me among the guilty. The Jimmy V Classic was played in the Garden two weeks ago, and in advance of the doubleheader, we hyped the appearance of three of the nation's best freshmen - Kansas State's Michael Beasley, Southern Cal's O.J. Mayo and Derrick Rose of Memphis. Beasley was banged around by Notre Dame tight end/power forward Luke Harangody and got his 19 points and 8-of-20 shooting to complement 13 boards. Harangody had 19 and 14. Mayo had 16 points on 8-of-20 shooting, and Rose had nine points, 10 rebounds and four assists but committed five turnovers and missed 6-of-9 shots. Fans sitting behind press row who were expecting the arrival of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce were disappointed. "I think those kids are terrific, but they're playing in their seventh, eighth or ninth game in college," Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski said in a recent telephone interview. "That's not why we've had the success that we've had in college, by marketing individuals. "The NBA has done that, and I think they've been successful. But they're two totally different marketing schemes, and if we fall into the one the NBA uses, we fall a distant second in our product, a distant second. Because if you're marketing someone for one year and then they go, it's just the next new person." Krzyzewski brings his Blue Devils (10-0) to the Garden Thursday for a showdown against Pitt (10-0), and both teams have terrific freshmen in Kyle Singler and Taylor King for Duke and DeJuan Blair for Pitt. But I'll heed Coach K's words and keep on an Duke senior DeMarcus Nelson, who's finally healthy and Pitt's junior Sam Young. * There are two reasons Eric Devendorf's season-ending left knee injury is devastating for Syracuse. The junior shooting guard could spell freshman Jonny Flynn at the point. Flynn will log a ton of minutes because senior Josh Wright, who did not come to practice, apparently has left the team. The second reason lies in the numbers. If the Orange (7-3) are going to succeed this season they'll have to outscore teams. Syracuse is second in the Big East in scoring (86.2 points) and second to last in scoring defense, allowing 78.6. Devendorf was averaging 17 points. * Louisville is looking at one of its most disappointing seasons ever. The football team, which began the season ranked in the Top 10, went 6-6 and won't play in a bowl. The Cards' upperclassmen, who had grown disgruntled playing for Bobby Petrino, a very poor man's Larry Brown, quit on first-year coach Steve Kragthorpe. The hoops team has gone into the tank following the season-ending injury to center David Padgett. Former New Jersey prep star Derrick Caracter has been suspended again. The Cards (5-3) have lost two straight and 3-of-5. Some are questioning AD Tom Jurich. But those in the business will tell you he's one of the savviest AD's in college. And don't think Rick Pitino won't find a way to get the Cards back. lenn.robbins@nypost.com soupcan: Josh Wright left the team? WTF?

Methead Dec 18 2007 08:39 AM

Lenn Robbins looks happy, eh? I guess we'll see what the freshmen are made of. The loss of Devendorf might actually make this team a little better defensively. Someone will have to make up the points. I like Rick Jackson. Here's an interesting interview with a lot of good points, and a rumor! [url=http://mvn.com/ncaa-syracuse/2007/12/14/interview-with-da-beat-of-ny-about-su-football-basketball-and-a-rumor/]Cuse Chronicles[/url]

soupcan Dec 18 2007 09:38 AM

Had no idea about Harris. Good stuff, thanks 'Head.

Methead Dec 18 2007 10:40 AM

Harris, what? At least I think we can all agree that Josh Wright is a selfish little pansy.

soupcan Dec 18 2007 10:55 AM

Methead wrote: Harris, what? Oops. Meant Wright.

Methead Jan 03 2008 07:29 AM

I thought last night was going to be the Donte Greene show, but he got into foul trouble and it ended up the Onuaku show. Nice to open with a win in conference play, but they didn't play all that well as a team... the bench didn't do anything until the final 10 minutes. They'll need to play a lot better against the rest of the league. And Greene is gonna have to stay the hell out of foul trouble.

Centerfield Jan 03 2008 09:48 AM

That was a really weird feeling watching the team I was rooting for win on SNY. I was encouraged by the win...they didn't play well but exhibited they were a far better team than St. John's.

soupcan Jan 09 2008 09:20 AM

-vs.- Tonight at 8:00 on SNY. Saltine Warriors at 12-3 overall, looking to go 3-0 in the Big East.

Centerfield Jan 09 2008 11:03 AM

Since when are we Indians?

soupcan Jan 09 2008 11:08 AM

Not Indians, Saltine Warriors. I think until about 1972 or so. Syracuse was one of the first universities to recognize the insensitive nature of using native tribes as mascots. The name and imagry were reflective of the salt mines in the area and the Onondagan tribes that are native to and still reside in that part of the state.

Methead Jan 09 2008 12:13 PM

Forgot to set the damn DVR again. CF, please tell me you knew about the Saltine Warrior and this is all a joke. Should be a tough game tonight, then again I expect every one of them to be. Cincinnati beat Louisville on the road I believe, then got beat by St. John's, so who knows how they'll play. I feel the same way about our guys though. In other news, Josh Wright is trying to get some sort of academic waiver so he can rejoin the team. I bet Boeheim is just giddy.

Centerfield Jan 09 2008 01:25 PM

I had heard they used to be called Saltine Warriors but I had no idea it had any tribal aspect to it. I never really gave it much thought. The mascot for the Saltine Warriors should be a really angry cracker.

Methead Jan 14 2008 07:40 AM

81-61 Ouch. The lack of depth on this team is really going to make this a painful season, I fear. At least the team will still be sorta fun to watch at times.

Centerfield Jan 14 2008 08:48 AM

Freakin' injuries. I've readjusted my hopes for this season. Now I'm just hoping Donte Green stays so they can be monsters next year.

soupcan Jan 14 2008 09:35 AM

Centerfield wrote: Now I'm just hoping Donte Green stays so they can be monsters next year. Is what I'm thinking.

Centerfield Jan 17 2008 12:12 PM

Nice win over Freakin' Rutgers.

Methead Jan 18 2008 11:33 AM

Freakin' Rutgers = Freakin' Terrible. That said, I'll take it. Much tougher game tomorrow against Villanova.

Centerfield Jan 21 2008 07:52 PM

Missing free throws, losing to Georgetown, something feels awfully familiar about tonight...

Methead Jan 22 2008 07:44 AM

Yeah. I expected them to get blown out by both Villanova and Georgetown. The fact that they had a chance at winning both of them is almost worse. They're just not deep enough to truly compete in the league right now... whether it's foul trouble ('Nova game) or just fatigue (last night) it seems like every game is going to be an uphill fight. Then again, if Donte Green makes just one of those 3-pointers in the first half... Onuaku makes just one free throw at the end... they coulda had it.

Methead Jan 27 2008 02:30 PM

Got a win over Providence today with only 6 scholarship players available. Walk-on Josh Thomas logged about 10 minutes. I missed what was wrong with Scoop Jardine, but he was in street clothes. Ongenaet looks like he's getting more accustomed to the Big East style of play. He was a complete zero for the first bunch of league games. Schedule looks a little easier for a stretch coming up. edit - Scoop is suspended indefinitely for violating University policy... yeesh.

Methead Jan 30 2008 07:33 AM

At Depaul tonight. At first I thought Darryl Gross was a little crazy to try to market Syracuse as "NYC's team", but I do love all these Orange games on SNY and MSG.

soupcan Jan 30 2008 07:52 AM

Did you see that the women's team is ranked for the first time in the history of the program (#22)? I think SU has had women's hoops for just shy of 40 years. They beat a ranked DePaul team at DePaul yesterday. No small feat. SU chicks are something like 17-3. They were always doormats and then maybe 2-3 years ago they hired a new coach. Looks like a good move. I only even notice the women's game because living in Connecticut you get inundated with the UConn women constantly.

Methead Jan 30 2008 09:01 AM

Yeah, I think it's great for the women's program, obviously. I guess I have to give Gross a little credit there. Maybe they can start stealing some recruits from UConn... Another good move was converting Manley into a winter practice facility for sports other than basketball. There's astroturf in there!

soupcan Jan 31 2008 07:48 AM

Fun game to watch last against DePaul. Back and forth the whole way. 'Cuse wins 60-55 and is now 15-7 (5-4). ="Methead"]Scoop is suspended indefinitely for violating University policy... yeesh. Cuse's Jardine linked to stolen card Freshman suspended from team indefinitely by coach Posted: Wednesday January 30, 2008 3:21PM; Updated: Wednesday January 30, 2008 3:21PM SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) -- Suspended Syracuse University basketball player Scoop Jardine knew that a stolen student identification card was being used to order more than $100 worth of food, according to court documents. Jardine didn't eat any of the food but helped carry it in when it was delivered to his apartment on Jan. 13, then tried to cover up his involvement, according to the documents, which are based on a statement from Jardine's cousin, Robert Washington, 40, of Philadelphia, who was charged in the case. Washington was arraigned Tuesday in Syracuse City Court on felony charges of second-degree forgery and fourth-degree grand larceny and a misdemeanor count of third-degree identity theft. He was held overnight in the and released Wednesday to the probation department's pretrial release program. Washington admitted in a written statement that he signed the receipt for the purchase of the food. He also said Jardine was there when using the stolen card was discussed. Washington said a woman identified in court papers as a friend of Jardine said she had found the identification card at a local restaurant. Jardine, a freshman from Philadelphia, was suspended indefinitely from the team before Sunday's home game against Providence. Coach Jim Boeheim announced the suspension after the game but declined to elaborate. Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick said he had no plans to prosecute Jardine after senior members of his staff reviewed the case and decided Jardine's involvement was minimal enough to allow the university to handle the matter internally. Jardine remains enrolled as a student, said Kevin Quinn, the university's vice president of public affairs. While the university tries to handle its disciplinary cases within 30 days, there is no set timeframe and each case is different, Quinn said. Quinn declined further comment, citing federal privacy laws. Jardine, who could not be reached for comment, did not practice Monday or Tuesday and did not accompany the team for its game at DePaul on Wednesday night. Washington's lawyer, James McGraw, said Wednesday that his client maintains Jardine was not involved in any criminal wrongdoing. "There is no indication from my conversations with my client that Scoop had anything to do with acquiring the card," McGraw said. "The first time it was used, Scoop was in West Virginia. He was never involved." Syracuse played an afternoon game at West Virginia on Jan. 13.

Centerfield Jan 31 2008 10:41 AM

What an idiot. Sometimes we're reminded that these guys we root for are just stupid college kids.

Methead Feb 02 2008 12:56 PM

Well, Jardine was with the team at Villanova today, and got into the game for a little bit. Paul Harris broke out of the cage in a big way. Jonny Flynn was great again. Big win on the road, that's 2 in a row.

Elster88 Feb 02 2008 01:30 PM

Huskies are getting good again.

soupcan Feb 02 2008 03:23 PM

Forgot this game was on today. Remembered just in time to see it end. Ecstatic that they won (at 'Nova!) but I think the bigger story is Villanova's midseason collapse. What's happened to them?

Methead Feb 02 2008 04:07 PM

Yeah, I think their national ranking at the beginning of the year was based more on reputation than anything else. They're a young team too.

soupcan Feb 02 2008 04:25 PM

Elster88 wrote: Huskies are getting good again. They're at the Dome on Wednesday night. I'm guessing that will be on TV somewhere.

Elster88 Feb 06 2008 09:30 PM

Good game. Winning there is never easy.

Rockin' Doc Feb 06 2008 09:53 PM

I watched the final 5 or 6 minutes of the Syracuse - UConn game. Great game! Syracuse had a chance for the upset against the rapidly improving UConn team, but came up just short. Calhoun will have the Huskies whipped into shape and a force to be reckoned with come March.

Centerfield Feb 07 2008 07:47 AM

One of these days Jonny Flynn's desperation three at the buzzer will find its mark. (I know he did it in the second game of the season. Whatever.)

soupcan Feb 07 2008 08:15 AM

They may not win but they are young and they play agonizingly close games against really good teams. We keep saying it - The next few years, if they stay together...

Methead Feb 07 2008 08:46 AM

Yep. That's two games against top-20 teams, lost by a last-second miss. I like Flynn taking those shots, especially last night. Greene couldn't make anything. This team doesn't quit. Thabeet is a monster. I would have liked to see them try to draw some fouls against the guy, since UConn isn't very deep either. Easier said than done, I guess.

Methead Feb 13 2008 02:54 PM

Game's on SNY tonight, I believe. Hopefully they're not looking past South Florida.

Centerfield Feb 15 2008 08:38 PM

Looks like the NIT might even be a reach. In other news, GMac signs with a team in Latvia.

Fman99 Feb 15 2008 09:16 PM

="Centerfield"]Looks like the NIT might even be a reach. In other news, GMac signs with a team in Latvia. I wonder if he'll convert to Latvian Orthodoxy.

themetfairy Feb 15 2008 09:20 PM

Centerfield wrote: Looks like the NIT might even be a reach. In other news, GMac signs with a team in Latvia. I thought that CF was self-referring back to a classic post of his, but [url=http://blog.syracuse.com/news/2008/02/gerry_mcnamara_signs_with_pro.html]it's true[/url].

Methead Feb 16 2008 01:58 PM

Good luck to Gerry. Hopefully he gives it a few weeks before he calls it quits this time. Nice win against Georgetown today... this team knows how to play, but they go through stretches of games looking terrible. During pre-game warmups, Donte' Green was wearing one of those "Don'te Leave" shirts. I thought that was funny.

Centerfield Feb 20 2008 11:03 AM

How about my man Hakim Warrkick dropping 20 a night since Pow got traded.

Centerfield Mar 01 2008 05:25 PM

I'm getting sick of the word "collapse".

soupcan Mar 01 2008 10:02 PM

]Will They Suck Again? Orange Basketball '07-'08? Um, yes.

Centerfield Mar 12 2008 01:02 PM

Well I guess that's that.

Methead Mar 12 2008 02:12 PM

I wasn't gonna post anything, I wasn't sure if you guys would be taping it and watching it later... but yeah. It would have been nice if they'd shown up to play today.

soupcan Mar 12 2008 04:08 PM

I was there (with a 'Nova alum). First half was fine and then...wtf?

Nymr83 Mar 12 2008 05:31 PM

i was there today as well, the oorange looked like they left their game in the locker room at the half. the providence game was close the whole way but for whatever reason i was just bored

MFS62 Mar 12 2008 06:38 PM

In answer to the thread's original question: Yes Later

soupcan Mar 13 2008 08:01 AM

RMPL.

Methead Mar 21 2008 09:55 AM

So, in the other tournament, Syracuse withstood 16 3-pointers by Robert Morris in the first round, then tore Maryland apart in the second round to reach the final 8. Jonny Flynn hardly even played in the first game due to an injured back. Up next is the winner of the Akron / UMass game tomorrow. You may remember UMass from such defeats as the 107-100 loss in the Dome earlier this season.

Nymr83 Mar 21 2008 12:18 PM

NIT stands for "Not In Tournament."

soupcan Mar 21 2008 03:17 PM

Yeah, we know.

Methead Mar 21 2008 06:16 PM

If you added up all the teams in the NCAA tournament (64) and the teams in the NIT (32) it's still the top third of all Division I basketball programs in the country. And there are quite a few teams in the NCAA tournament receiving automatic bids from (let's face it) lesser conferences who probably aren't as good as the top half of teams in the NIT. Sure, we'd all like to see our favorite team in the "big dance" but it's not like getting invited to the NIT means you suck.

MFS62 Mar 22 2008 04:06 PM

Sorry, Soupy. Can you please recommend a wine I can use to wash down the UCONN crow I'l be eating? Later

Methead Mar 22 2008 10:15 PM

UMass visits the Dome Tuesday night at 7:00, and it will actually be on TV... I want a little payback.

Methead Mar 25 2008 08:25 PM

Un-freakin-believable. Obviously the pace of the game didn't favor SU, a young team with zero depth... but come on. So many missed layups. Donte missing three out of four free throws at the end. Ah well. I had feeling when they built the lead up to 18 points or so, and the camera caught Flynn and Greene laughing, they might not hold the lead.

soupcan Mar 26 2008 07:21 AM

No excuses for blowing a 20+ point second half lead - but - as 'Head said - their lack of depth, due mostly to injury, killed them all year and was a huge factor last night. The zebras also missed several UMass fouls toward the end of the game. With Devendorf and Rautins back next year assuming all these young guys return - this will be a team to be reckoned with.

soupcan Mar 28 2008 09:29 AM

They are promoting a Keith Smart call-in n appearance on WFAN later this morning. Yeah - let me make sure my radio is locked in and I'm sitting at my desk with my phone on 'do not disturb' for that one. Not.

Methead Apr 09 2008 02:45 PM

Donte Greene is declaring for the draft. Hasn't hired an agent yet, but it seems like he's going to. He'll get drafted someplace, but he's got lots of work to do.

Centerfield Apr 10 2008 10:24 AM

They certainly would have been better had he stayed, but I think they can be pretty good next year anyway. I'm excited to see Jackson get more time as a post threat.

soupcan Apr 10 2008 10:31 AM

Methead wrote: Donte Greene is declaring for the draft. Hasn't hired an agent yet, but it seems like he's going to. He'll get drafted someplace, but he's got lots of work to do. That sucks - what a looser.

Rockin' Doc Apr 10 2008 10:47 AM

I have heard rumos that there is a movement gaining support in both the NBA and NCAA to make it two years beyond your high school class graduation before a player is eligible for the draft. Apparently, many in the NBA are growing tired of drafting and paying large sums of money to players that are physically and emotionally not mature enough to play at the professional level.

Frayed Knot Apr 10 2008 11:57 AM

]Apparently, many in the NBA are growing tired of drafting and paying large sums of money to players that are physically and emotionally not mature enough to play at the professional level. They're perfectly free to NOT draft them.

Rockin' Doc Apr 11 2008 04:25 PM

I think the GM's are all too afraid that if they don't sign these players, one of the other GM's will. They apparently believe that the only way to control themselves is to legislate rule changes so that everyone has to go along.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2008 10:16 AM

="Rockin' Doc"]I think the GM's are all too afraid that if they don't sign these players, one of the other GM's will. Of course that's the reason!! They want someone else (ie. the colleges) to train and weed out these players so that; a) they make fewer mistakes in the drafts and b) they don't have to spend a dime training and storing these guys in a minor league or development system ]They apparently believe that the only way to control themselves is to legislate rule changes so that everyone has to go along. A process which would be illegal in just about any other business. They'll get away with it if the player's union agrees to it like they did when they moved the age of draft up one year a few seasons ago -- although why the likes of Kobe, Garnett, LeBron, and the others who were successful with either just one year of college ball or none at all would want to shut off that avenue as even a possibility is beyond me. Nothing like slamming the door behind you once you're through it. And of course the NCAA is ready to jump throught he ceiling to sign off on this. Any rule that virtually requires the top talent in the country to have to go through their system **For Free** for two years is A-OK with them. Hell, they'd sign up for moving the draft age to 28.

AG/DC Apr 12 2008 11:41 AM

And society spits on the agents.

Nymr83 Apr 12 2008 11:49 AM

I don't like the NCAA's "no agent" rule at all. The kids should be able to get someone to give them sound career advice instead of fretting over whether they'd get drafted or not if they take a chance and declare.

AG/DC Apr 12 2008 01:00 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Apr 12 2008 10:38 PM

I'm sure I'm missing something, but is there anything particularly wrong with the NCAA changing the rules to allow a team to draft a player and retain his rights while he goes to college and develops his game? They can take over the expenses of his scholarship for the school in the meantime.

Nymr83 Apr 12 2008 01:10 PM

I suppose the colleges might not want the NBA telling it what to do, like "dont play him tonitght we don't want you taking any chances with that minor minor injury" theres also the scholarship issue, each team is allowed to hand out X scholarships, if the NBA is suddenly paying a guy's way does that count as one of your allocated scholarships? these aren't major issues and i'd certainly like to see such a system, it lets the college game remain the great game that it is (its better basketball than the NBA) and maybe even get a few more talented players, while also letting the pro teams have a real place to draft and follow talent as there is no minor league system like in baseball.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2008 01:48 PM

Here's a suggestion to colleges who want to find a way to keep their players a bit longer: recruit only those players who are actually interested in going to college!

AG/DC Apr 12 2008 03:56 PM

Sure, but history suggests that you can't expect corporations to restrain themselves in a free marketplace. The minute Kentucky beats Louisville because Louisville only recruited players explicitly in it for the four years and the degree, Lousiville would drop that policy.

Frayed Knot Apr 12 2008 04:22 PM

Agreed. But if they're going to go after players who have no interest in college because they're the top talent in the country (and get rich off them in the process) they then forfeit the right to complain when they're unable to rig the system to keep that top talent from playing in the top league until such time as they decide they're done with them. btw, you may want to split this off so as to let the Syracuse boys have their thread back.

Nymr83 Apr 12 2008 08:51 PM

the season is over and i'm sure there'll be a new thread for a new season so it shouldnt really matter

Centerfield May 02 2008 12:20 PM

Reports that Derrick Coleman needed a heart transplant are false. From Syracuse.com: "You think I'm dead?'' Coleman said. "I don't know where (the Post) got the story that I needed a heart transplant. Tell everyone in Syracuse that I appreciate the love, but it's a false alarm. I ain't gone yet. When I'm gone, they'll have funeral in the (Carrier) Dome.'' I know a lot of people consider Coleman to have been a disappointment, but I always liked the guy...and he genuinely seemed to have loved his time at Syracuse.

soupcan May 26 2008 04:58 PM

'Cuse beats Hopkins 13-10 for the school's 10th NCAA division I Lacrosse national championship.

Methead May 26 2008 05:01 PM

Nice to see SU Lacrosse back on top, as it should be.

soupcan May 27 2008 08:04 AM

="soupcan"]'Cuse beats Hopkins 13-10 for the school's 10th NCAA division I Lacrosse national championship. Sorry, that's 9 national championships. The 1990 title was vacated due to violations. The 9 titles (actually 10) ties Syracuse with Hopkins for most lax national championships. It's pretty amazing considering the Orange missed the tournament completely last year for the first time since 1982, while going 5-8.

Methead Jun 25 2008 07:50 AM

Some kid named Wesley Johnson is transferring to SU from Iowa State. He'll need to sit a year, but he will have two years of eligibility remaining after that.

soupcan Aug 03 2008 08:40 PM

[url=http://www.theexpressmovie.com/]The Express.[/url] In theaters October 3rd.

Methead Sep 06 2008 08:43 PM

It's looking as if that movie is the only thing to get excited about his season... Akron 42 Syracuse 28

soupcan Sep 06 2008 10:06 PM

Holy shit. That was a close game late in the third quarter - it was Akron 28, SU 21. Amazazing!

Methead Sep 12 2008 08:51 AM

soupcan wrote: That was a close game late in the third quarter Think we'll be able to say that this weekend?

HahnSolo Sep 13 2008 03:14 PM

Did they seriously just kick a field goal down 35-3 before halftime against Penn State?

soupcan Sep 13 2008 06:40 PM

55-13. Pitiful.

Methead Sep 13 2008 09:34 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 14 2008 10:09 AM

Yep. I'd like to say this is rock bottom, but I'm convinced we'll see something worse. I mean, if they don't beat Northeastern next week, there's a strong possibility they go winless this season. Eep.

soupcan Sep 14 2008 08:03 AM

]Syracuse Coach Greg Robinson’s record dropped to 7-31 in his fourth season with the Orange (0-3). At least they'll have a new coach next year (or before this one's over). Dude - Where's Hakim?

Methead Sep 14 2008 10:10 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 15 2008 08:14 AM

soupcan wrote: Dude - Where's Hakim? Hiding in shame, apparently. edit: found him. he was on my office's server and someone moved him to a different folder.

cooby Sep 14 2008 10:13 AM

OE: nothing

Centerfield Sep 17 2008 08:36 AM

Some good news for the Orange. Brandon Triche, Howard's nephew, just committed to Syracuse for next year. He is a highly recruited 6-4 point guard. http://www.syracuse.com/today/index.ssf/2008/09/jd_hoops_star_brandon_triche_t.html