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Slappy's Got It (Split from NYC's Weak Sisters 2007)

Nymr83 May 31 2007 06:25 AM

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270530114]Arod is an idiot[/url] ]In the top of the ninth Alex Rodriguez appeared to yell out "I got it" during an infield pop up, causing the Jays infielder to drop what would have been the third out of the inning. ]"The thing about the Yankees, one of the reasons they're so respected, is they do things right. Always have," manager John Gibbons said. "They've got a lot of pride and a lot of class. They play the game hard. "That's not Yankee pride right there," he said. "That's not the way they play. I thought it was bush league." i guess when you are as desperate as the yankees...

Edgy DC May 31 2007 07:07 AM

First of all, I never knew where the "They always play the game right" stuff comes from. Pride and class? Please. Second of all, it seems more or less fair play to me. A cheap playground trick, sure, but Jeter would get serious points for it.

Johnny Dickshot May 31 2007 07:18 AM

I saw the play and it was poor sportsmanship without a doubt. If Arod wants to try and get away with that, fine for him, but he cannot expect to come to the plate next time vs. the Jays without fearing for his left ear. Arod of course is famous for cheating -- the slap play, that shemale he's cheating on his wife with, and a dirty slide in the Bosox series recently. For a second it looked like McDonald was going to over there and pop Arod once in the nose. Jason Phillips was catching and he exchanged words with Giambi., who followed in the order.

metirish May 31 2007 07:20 AM

I guess it's a given that the yankeees play the game the right way,Troy Glaus had this to say. ] "Not since I think 'Major League II,' the movie; I think that's the only time I've ever seen it on the field," Glaus said. "I've never heard of someone doing it and I've never seen anybody do it. That's not proper. That's not the right thing to do."

seawolf17 May 31 2007 07:22 AM

What a bunch of classy guys. ]Rodriguez brushed aside the Blue Jays' anger, saying the Yankees were "desperate" for a win. "Honestly, I couldn't care less," he said. "They have their opinions. We're looking not to be swept." The Yankees didn't quite know what to think. "I wasn't sure that was allowed," outfielder Johnny Damon said. "If it is, maybe we'll keep on doing it."

Johnny Dickshot May 31 2007 07:25 AM

"The Only" Nolan pulled off that play for the Wilmington Quicksteps against outfielder Tim Murname of the Boston Unions in 1884. He was fined $10.

Edgy DC May 31 2007 07:27 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I saw the play and it was poor sportsmanship without a doubt. If Arod wants to try and get away with that, fine for him, but he cannot expect to come to the plate next time vs. the Jays without fearing for his left ear. Arod of course is famous for cheating -- the slap play, that shemale he's cheating on his wife with, and a dirty slide in the Bosox series recently. That's true enough, I guess. I just think Jeter's framed as a prince for doing the same thing. Or if the Yankees are doing well.

iramets May 31 2007 07:51 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: It was poor sportsmanship without a doubt. It's a brother-in-law play, a gentleman's kind of thing, more than anything else. You don't do it, not because it's against the rules, but just because if everyone did it, the game would be a little scuzzier. Frankly, I think MLB needs a little scuzz. This is of a piece with okaying spitballs and corked bats until you're caught, turning your gaze the other way about steroids until there's a major scandal, not starting Schoenweis only to replace him with your regular righthanded starter in the middle of inning 1 to get a few batters at a platoon disadvantage for the rest of the game, etc. It comes under "We don't exactly do ANYTHING not expressly forbidden by the rulebook," an agreement among friends. Generally speaking, I don't know how much that stuff has a place in competitive sports. I still hate to see players fraternizing with the opposing team in BP, so maybe that just means that I'm an old school fart.

Edgy DC May 31 2007 07:54 AM

I think the rules do expressly forbid players from fraternizing while in uniform.

iramets May 31 2007 07:56 AM

="Edgy DC"]I think the rules do expressly forbid players from fraternizing while in uniform. Yes, they do. But you see it.

Edgy DC May 31 2007 07:59 AM

I don't see much BP anymore.

Johnny Dickshot May 31 2007 08:08 AM

I dunno. To me, there's something different between, say, a middle infielder deking a coming throw, or an outfielder deceiving the baserunner into thinking a catch is being made, than a guy purposefully distracting a fielder with no choice but to watch the ball into his mitt. The "victim" is a little more helpless here. I also don't have trouble, necessarily, with a guy hoping to dislodge a ball, but the way Arod does it? Bullshit. Great quote from Matt Stairs on the play last night -=- he said someryhoing like, "Go ask the MFYs about the play and if they say 'no comment' they think it's bush too." Sure enough, Jeter deflects comments "you'll have to ask him..."

iramets May 31 2007 08:14 AM

I don't want to come out to the park to see guys being nice to one another. The fiction (which I pay good money for, on the rare occasions that I do) is that these guys are competing for a valuable prize which they want badly to win, that they view each other as obstacles to achieving their goals, and that they are constantly seeking ways to find edges that the rules permit. I can accept that they grudgingly concede that players on other teams have talent, that they can conceive of such-and-such a player being a great player, but when such terms aren't extracted painfully from them, when they're freely saying "Oh, I love A-Rod, he's a beautiful guy, I'd love to kick back and hoist a glass of Chardonney with him on a summer's eve," I get the feeling that the actual competition is something of a sham, no one really cares about winning, and I'm getting scammed. What else is new?

Frayed Knot May 31 2007 10:23 AM

Back to the ARod running play (and God I wish people would feel free to start new threads on occaion) -- the Blue Jay infielders are all swearing he yelled "Mine" which ARod is denying. All of which reminds me of the swatting the ball out of Arroyo's mitt and then standing on second pleading; What did I do?!?". Thing is, if you want to claim that doing something like that is a piece of 'all's fair in love & war' strategy then you ought to be able to stand up and say; "Yeah I yelled that; we needed the runs and up yours if you don't like it". But of course he won't which makes the play look even scuzzier and himself even more image-concious.

iramets May 31 2007 10:44 AM

Has any Jay said, "If he denies yelling 'Mine' he's a fucking liar, and you can quote me"?

soupcan May 31 2007 10:49 AM

Do you really expect them to?

Frayed Knot May 31 2007 11:24 AM

"I heard a `Mine' call and so I let it go," [thrid-baseman Clark] said. then, once he saw it fall, realized; "that it wasn't [SS] Johnny Mac[Donald] and then I realized what had happened." ARod went on to say that it's not a big deal because; "All my guys in here think it's good" {they do???} ... and "I'm not that concerned because it happens to me three or four times a week." {I'm calling bullshit on that one} The other kicker to this whole deal was that it came as the pitcher was making his ML debut. That pop-up was the first batter he ever faced. Instead of the inning being over (there were two outs at the time) he gives up another hit before ending the inning. So instead of: 0.3 IP, 0 R, 0H it's : 0.3 IP, 2 H, 1 ER + 2 inherited runs allowed

metirish May 31 2007 11:31 AM

Money can't buy class,just look at Paris Hilton.

Edgy DC May 31 2007 11:53 AM

"I don't know what my intention was": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iErO9MZclDc&mode=user&search=

metsmarathon May 31 2007 01:38 PM

i've gotta add that i hate when people yell "shot" when i'm trying to make a basket, when their intention is not to announce to their fellow defenders that a shot is being taken and therefore to prepare for a rebound, but rather to distract me from focusing my attention on the basket and thereby affecting my shot. them's shits are for the playgrounds, at best.

iramets May 31 2007 03:02 PM

="metsmarathon"]i've gotta add that i hate when people yell "shot" when i'm trying to make a basket, when their intention is not to announce to their fellow defenders that a shot is being taken and therefore to prepare for a rebound, but rather to distract me from focusing my attention on the basket and thereby affecting my shot. them's shits are for the playgrounds, at best. If you were shooting in the NBA against Michael Jordan, you'd be hearing ongoing chatter about the olfactory qualities of your mother's crotch as you were trying to get off a shot.

metsmarathon May 31 2007 06:45 PM

that i'd be fine with. chat away.

Elster88 May 31 2007 07:00 PM

nevermind

duan Jun 01 2007 04:41 AM here's how it works in football

If you call "my ball", "mine", "dummy" or anything else which might stop someone on the other team going for a ball it's an indirect free kick against you for "unsporting behaviour" (which was until recently called the marvellous "ungentlemanly conduct"). Anything that you do with your body as long as it doesn't break the other laws of the game is fair game. So when I'm going up for I header I yell (often extremely loudly, you'd be surprised the number of centre-forwards you can intimidate by just appearing to be a lunatic) "DUAN'S BALL", that's absolutely fine. Obviously baseball's a bit different in that players from opposing teams can't be 'going' for the same ball, but I think it's fair to say that if the umpire heard Rodriguez saying "I got it" and was entitled to rule him out on the basis of some catch all expression of "interference" you wouldn't hear much protests from anyone.

smg58 Jun 01 2007 05:12 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: "The Only" Nolan pulled off that play for the Wilmington Quicksteps against outfielder Tim Murname of the Boston Unions in 1884. He was fined $10. What percentage of his annual salary was that? And if A-Rod were fined that percentage, how much would it come to?

iramets Jun 01 2007 06:05 AM

metsmarathon wrote: that i'd be fine with. chat away. "Yo momma pussy smell like rutabaga" doesn't distract you, but "shot!" does?

Johnny Dickshot Jun 01 2007 06:09 AM

Nolan was the highest paid player on his team. For some reason a figure of $400 floats in my mind*, that would be 2.5% of his salary. *-I have this info photocopied somewhere.

metirish Jun 01 2007 07:35 AM

Some current and former players with varying views on the "shout"... ] Except Bonds, most scream at 'shout' Barry Bonds had not heard about Alex Rodriguez's stormy trip around third base in Toronto Wednesday night. But as Bonds was asked a baseball question yesterday - was it a dirty play when A-Rod screamed at a Blue Jays infielder as he settled under a popup? - the highlight flickered across a clubhouse television. "It's coming on. I'll be able to look at it if you all get out of my face," Bonds said. The Giants outfielder watched the replay and asked, "And the ball just dropped, right?" Then Bonds, who is perhaps better than anyone at blocking things out and performing splendidly under pressure, said, "It's Toronto's fault. Catch the ball. It's your own ---- fault. What's wrong with you? You got 30,000 people in the stands hollering." Told that the Blue Jays were upset with Rodriguez's apparent call for the ball, Bonds said, "Too bad. Get over it." Bonds wouldn't pass judgment, saying, "Go ask Alex. Leave me out of it." But others in baseball who were asked about it yesterday say that Rodriguez, who may be fashioning something of a reputation for chippy play, was wrong. "You should just play the game and let the game play itself," said Giants infielder Rich Aurilia, who was born in Brooklyn. "Yeah, it worked. Did it look very good? No. Obviously, something is wrong with it if everybody is making such a big deal about it. "If you ask all of baseball whether it's accepted, I'd guarantee you a large majority would say 'No.' I don't think it was right. ... Things are blown up sometimes, but it didn't seem like a lot of the guys on the Yankees had much comment. That speaks for itself." Willie Randolph, Omar Vizquel and Julio Franco, who have a combined 60 years of playing experience in the majors, said they never had it happen to them. Vizquel said he screamed at a fielder trying to pick up a grounder once - the fielder was unruffled - and was told not to do it again by an umpire. Franco said he'd do it if he thought it would win a game, but he's never tried it. "I thought screaming wasn't allowed," Vizquel said. Then he quipped, "Maybe you can get away with that, if you're a Yankee player." Randy Marsh, an umpire who was working last night's Met game, said plays like that were up to an umpire's judgment. If a runner jolts a fielder with a scream, he could be called out, Marsh said. Yelling at players nearing the opposing dugout seemed to be more acceptable than yelling at fielders while passing by, players said. Some say the play is just another in a list of infractions that have pockmarked Rodriguez's otherworldly talent. "The guy can't help himself, it's amazing," said one ex-major league player who spoke on condition of anonymity. "He's got a real resume going now." On the Yanks' most recent home stand, Rodriguez angered the Red Sox for throwing an elbow into Dustin Pedroia while trying to break up a double play at second. Rodriguez was most famously the butt of Boston jokes when he tried to slap the ball away from Bronson Arroyo in the 2004 ALCS - the computers the Red Sox used to watch video of Cardinals pitchers in the World Series that year had a photo of the play as a screen saver - with a purse digitally added on A-Rod's arm. Asked yesterday about the A-Rod play, Boston GM Theo Epstein gave the following answer, though he threw in the caveat of not being specific about Rodriguez: "There are certain things that you just don't do to the opposition on the baseball field." While old-time baseball has a rough-and-tumble, win-at-all-costs reputation, ex-Yankee Moose Skowron said plays such as A-Rod's shout didn't happen in his day. "The first time I heard of it was when I read about it in the paper (yesterday) morning," said Skowron, who played from 1954-1967. Former Yankee third baseman Graig Nettles, who has worked with Rodriguez as a guest instructor at spring training, said, "People yell all the time. It's a matter of concentration. This is not unheard of, put it that way." But Nettles' ex-teammate, Rich Gossage, said the tactic was news to him. "It's a good way to get killed, I'd say. I've seen guys play interference with balls on the ground, stay in front of it to not give the infielder a good look at it," Gossage said. "But I haven't heard of anyone throwing a wrench like that. If someone did it to my guy, it'd be the last time he ever did anything like that." Gossage suggested that A-Rod be careful the next time he bats against the Blue Jays, which will be July 16 at the Stadium. "If I was him, I wouldn't be digging in," Gossage said. "I'd have happy feet." - With Roger Rubin

Edgy DC Jun 01 2007 07:42 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 01 2007 08:03 AM

Seems to be a lot less of a consensus than a headline of Except Bonds, most scream at 'shout' would have you believe.

metsmarathon Jun 01 2007 08:01 AM

iramets wrote: ="metsmarathon"]that i'd be fine with. chat away. "Yo momma pussy smell like rutabaga" doesn't distract you, but "shot!" does? well, ok, i might be distracted by the laughter... but a loud distracting sound would do more to distract me than a monologue.

cooby Jun 03 2007 07:35 PM

What is the off the field incident in Toronto that the ESPN guys keep alluding to?

Edgy DC Jun 03 2007 07:41 PM

HIs apparent liason with a woman not his wife?

cooby Jun 03 2007 08:01 PM

Is that what it really is? I just wondered because they keep bringing it up but not saying what it is. Classy.