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IGT 06/13, Mets at Dodgers

Kid Carsey
Jun 13 2007 06:51 PM

Reyes ss
Green rf
Beltran cf
Wright 3b
Delgado 1b
Lo Duca c
Valentin 2b
Ledee lf
Sosa p

Furcal ss
Pierre cf
Garciaparra 1b
Gonzalez lf
Martin c
Betemit 3b
Kemp rf
Abreu 2b
Penny p

Centerfield
Jun 13 2007 07:39 PM

Let's fucking win.

I fucking hate Brad Penny.

iramets
Jun 13 2007 07:44 PM

You misspelled "hat" again.

martin
Jun 13 2007 08:04 PM

wow, willie looked genuinely annoyed by kuo's bat-flip in that interview. i wonder if he would prod a pitcher to send a message.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 08:17 PM

Wright stays in the clean-up spot even against the RHP -- and delivers the RBI single

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 08:22 PM

I'm usually pretty sensitive to poor sportsmanship but Kuo gets a pass. He was excited and should have been. If he were truly trying to show anyone up he could have made certain Maine even watched it. I think the Mets are having terrible CAHNfidence right now and are vulnerable to suggestions from broadcasters and jerkoffs like Michael Kay as to how to act.

The way to get back at Kuo would have been to score a few runs. The crazy thing is those 3 HRs were the only things went wrong all night, pitching wise, and it let the O off the hook when they were again to blame.

I suppose there was some psychological damage to assess seeing as it followed our little run-scoing immediately but jee-zus, let's get over it, and like I should be doing now, focus on how encouraging it is to score first once again with David Wright hot and all.

Go Mets!

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 08:41 PM

Penny wearing Piazza's digits.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 08:58 PM

Pitching around Furcal to get to Pierre. In'eresting

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:07 PM

I'm staying up for this shit. How 'bout you?

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:08 PM

Still here.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:13 PM

I missed the Green-Penny standoff. Any recap on what went down?

(Green Penny Standoff, opening for Therapy? at Irving Plaza.)

Gwreck
Jun 13 2007 09:14 PM

Doing the important stuff, like washing the dishes and washing my David Wright jersey for Friday's game, but definetly still here.

Gwreck
Jun 13 2007 09:15 PM

Penny yelled at Green, ostensibly about peeking at the catcher for signs.

Green was pissed. LoDuca had some words with Penny when Penny came to the plate but Green still seemed mad.

Wouldn't mind Sosa planting one in Penny's rear end next time he's up.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 13 2007 09:18 PM

I'm here, too!

Jorge Sosa has the karma working in his favor for talking to me at Comerica on Sunday and signing my Mets history book.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 09:22 PM

Penny's an ass, always has been.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:23 PM

The Dodgers gave 31 to coach John "T-Bone" Shelby shortly after trading Piazza in 98. Shelby also wore 31 as a Dodger player.

Here's some dumb facts: The last player to wear 31 on the Dodgers before Piazza: Roger McDowell. McDowell gave up 31 to switch to 17 in 1993 so as to honor Keith Hernandez and Piazza took over 31. Piazza previously was 25.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:25 PM

FU, Wilson Betimit.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:25 PM

Beteshit.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:33 PM

Furball triples. Could be the knockout blow.

Batty31
Jun 13 2007 09:33 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
Penny wearing Piazza's digits.


Yeah...I wasn't too happy to see that.

Different uniform, yet Furcal still manages to be a pest...

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:41 PM

I'll say it. This isn't that good a team looking to sweep us.

Gwreck
Jun 13 2007 09:43 PM

No offense anywhere to be found. Terrible.

Batty31
Jun 13 2007 09:43 PM

And I'm fearing another sweep this weekend.

Editing: I think the Bad News Bears could sweep them at this point...

Great..Nomar with a stolen base.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:46 PM

Their bullpen is going to violate us again.

Hey, the throw hit Martin. Where have we heard that before?

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 09:46 PM

Following up the 3-run inning with a 5-pitch bagel doesn't help matters much and is a big fuckin gift to Penny.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:50 PM

Bat Duke second.

That might help.

A little.

A very little.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 09:52 PM

How does Hillary Swank stand it?

First Chad Lowe, now Derek Lowe.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 09:53 PM

Batting LoDuca #2 is quickly becoming the fans' favorite red herring.

I don't have an ojection to it but when you get 8 hits (7 singles) over two games and Green in the 2-slot has several of them who bats in what order isn't going to make a difference.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 09:53 PM

Nothing improves until Carlos & Carlos get into it and I'm beginning to doubt either will.

This boxscore will look like shit for Sosa

cleonjones11
Jun 13 2007 09:55 PM

I think the lockeroom chemistry aint good. Ask Glavine..

By the way..the MFY's are on our tail

Phillies too

Beltran's a dog

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:03 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
Batting LoDuca #2 is quickly becoming the fans' favorite red herring.

I don't have an ojection to it but when you get 8 hits (7 singles) over two games and Green in the 2-slot has several of them who bats in what order isn't going to make a difference.


No doubt. But I get off on him making people labor before Beltran gets up.

I don't actually think Chad Lowe's absence has made a difference for Hillary either.

David Wright goes down.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 10:05 PM

Why do you persist in repeating the myth that LoDuca makes pitchers work?
He sees fewer pitches that most.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 10:07 PM

cleonjones11 wrote:
I think the lockeroom chemistry aint good.



Wow, a fan blaming a losing streak on a lack of chemistry.
Usually you have to go to a bar stool to get this type of in-depth analysis.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:08 PM

It's not a myth that he doesn't swing and miss.

Why read what I said like that? Making pitchers work isn't necessarily taking called strikes.

cleonjones11
Jun 13 2007 10:21 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
="cleonjones11"]I think the lockeroom chemistry aint good.



Wow, a fan blaming a losing streak on a lack of chemistry.
Usually you have to go to a bar stool to get this type of in-depth analysis.


Kind of ironic your photo is of Mr. Chemistry George Foster

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 13 2007 10:22 PM

These Mets are killing me. Up too late 3 nights in a row, only to be kicked in the balls.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:26 PM

I'd rather not answer for crackpots on the radio. The only notion behind returning Lo Duca is to hope that a struggling offense can benefit by returning a guy whose talent seems to lend itself to OBP to the top of the lineup and a guy whose talent seems to lend itself to SLG to the middle.

I think I made it clear I was fishing.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:28 PM

Easley, I'm kicking your ass with my mind.

Gwreck
Jun 13 2007 10:37 PM

Throwing in the towel, putting Wagner in the game in the 8th so he gets an inning of work.

Frayed Knot
Jun 13 2007 10:37 PM

When did 'Sweet Caroline' become the official 8th inning song of MLB?
They're playing it in Dodger stadium now.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:41 PM

Wow. I must hate myself.

Gwreck
Jun 13 2007 10:45 PM

Good, they deserve it.

Edit: The Dodgers re: Sweet Caroline, not Edgy. He doesn't deserve that. None of us do.

metsguyinmichigan
Jun 13 2007 10:49 PM

At this point, what do you do to stop this free fall?

Something dramatic, like firing the hitting coach?

Trade for an outfielder? I don't think Alou is coming back. The don't even seem to know what's wrong with him.

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:52 PM

You can fire a hitting coach or hire a fitting coach, but I'm a little more interested in Randolph's own fire-lighting ability.

I can't imagine how changing coaches mid-season is supposed to help a team. Are the hitters all supposed to change their approach mid-course?

Edgy DC
Jun 13 2007 10:57 PM

Kerflutz.

cleonjones11
Jun 13 2007 11:34 PM

Tell LoDuca to stop beiting on the enemy

This too shall pass..Long road trip

I've said it before but we need a corner OF bopper..They will become available. Methinks Moises might do the insurance settlement retire thing.

Beltran is the Chairman of the bored....Whole team looks bored, drunk or both...

MFY's this weekend...nutz

DocTee
Jun 14 2007 07:45 AM

Get Adam Dunn. Now.

metirish
Jun 14 2007 09:33 AM

I don't know if Dunn is the answer but the Mets scored only four runs in the series,some of our best hitters look lost.

Billy Wagner said this after the game....

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"We caused a lot of our own problems, but right now they're very good," Wagner said."They played outstanding baseball and we made them look better with our sloppy play and lackadaisical efforts.



Lack of effort is the worst.

iramets
Jun 14 2007 09:45 AM

This is where having a manager would help.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 14 2007 09:51 AM

From my outside-looking-in perspective, I think that that's been Willie's strength: keeping the team loose and focused.

But he obviously hasn't been getting that done lately. Maybe they're too loose and not focused enough. I didn't see or read it, but the other night Gary Cohen mentioned an article by Marty Noble on Mets.com that said the the Mets were laughing in the shower while Tom Glavine was facing the press after his miserable outing in Detroit. And Ron Darling then said something about how he used to get pissed off if the club was having a good time after a bad loss.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 14 2007 10:01 AM

In WWSB's defense he didn't let a 5-game losing streak to begin his careeer screw the team up. My fear is that no amount of managing is going to cure Beltran's quad or make Delgado young again.

iramets
Jun 14 2007 10:05 AM

Well, when everyone's hitting and pitching well, a manager isn't much use. Write the lineup card, BS with reporters, pat people on the ass, call your middle relievers in in innings 5-7, call Heilman in the 8th and Wagner in the ninth, and pinchhit your 48 year old when you have men on base in the late innings with the pitcher up. A smart collie could do it well.

But when the shit hits the fan, you need a manager, you need someone who knows who to sit down, who to speak quietly to, who to scream at...this is what I think is Willie's weakest suit. Well, that and actually , you know, in-game managing.

People who like reminding me of Willie's won-lost record, as if that trumps any point I try to make about his lack of managerial skills: How's that w-l record looking now, over the last 10 games? Do you want him fired now? Or doesn't the w-l record count any more?

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 23 2007 11:41 AM

Here's some pics from that shitty game. Completely awesome day right up until the Mets got ass-hammered.

I got there with my neighbor Sarah really early (the stadium gates were closed and we had to wait on the hill to get in). She had to sound-check at 6:00, so we got there about 4:45 or thereabouts and waited to get in. The bus made it through gnarly 5 o'clock traffic on the 101 like a true champion. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't really scared it might overheat.





We parked and found a couple more of our neighbors, Martin and Damien, brothers from Ireland. Martin's lived in the LBC 7 years, Damien's been visiting for 2 weeks and this was his first baseball game. He said it was like rounders whatever the hell that is. Both really awesome dudes who got on the jumbotron doing this crazy thumbs-up dance. Those guys were a hoot.

Anyway, here's a pre-game warmup shot in Marty's truck. Mmm, canned Budweiser...



The empty Dodger Stadium parking lot... "Think Blue".





We got to tour the underbelly of the stadium which takes you past all the offices. This was the coolest thing that caught my eye, though:



We then cruised up to the press booth. This was the long row of seats for newspaper writers. The SNY booth and Vin Scully's booth were to our left so I didn't catch a glimpse of any of those guys. At the far end of the press booth is where the organist, Nancy Bea Hefley does her thing. I got to meet her and her husband (pictured to her right - Edit: make that her left, who apparently goes with her to every game). They were two really sweet people who'd just celebrated their 50th anniversary a week or two before.

They gave Sarah some wireless earbuds and she did her first run-through there. That was the first time I'd heard her sing and she is a bad-ass.



After that we went down to the field. Straight behind home plate so she could do another run-through with the PA in her ear and get a feel for that.



The Mets last group was doing BP (Castro, Franco, Easley, another guy maybe). It was crazy to be that close and my first instinct when seeing these guys so familiar right in front of you is to say "what up", and then you remember you don't actually know them and you feel like a dork for staring.

Anyway, I think I took a few more, but these were the only ones I was sent. Maury Wills cruised by and Willie was really excited to see him. He stopped watching BP to chat him up a bit. Here's Willie and Sandy Alomar with Maury, Sandy clearly not too proud to ask for an autograph.





BP finished, they did the first pitch, and then the kid belted out the anthem, opera style. Even better than the run-throughs.









Then I got to hang with the star for a bit.



As we walked off the field, we went past the Dodger dugout. Those were some cool guys, all congratulating her and telling how great she did. Then they went out and kicked the Mets asses. Jerks.

After we got to the seats, I changed from my nondescript black t-shirt to my jersey. Didn't want her to get booed singing on account of me (Damien behind us).



I caught some ribbing from a half dozen or so guys next to us, but they ended up being very cool, all of them. This one's Roy, I think. Or something.



Here's the view from the seats. Stamped "VIP" on the ticket, but not Swank or Seinfeld real estate. Killer just the same.



A win would've been nice, but what are you gonna do.

Post game sad face:

Elster88
Jun 23 2007 04:11 PM

That's great stuff Seo.

iramets
Jun 23 2007 05:43 PM

Seo cool.

seawolf17
Jun 23 2007 05:51 PM

What a cool experience! Nice photos.