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Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 08:39 PM

In my new Inside Pitch magazine, Patrick Teale ranks the top ten Met pitching prospects by pitch: It seems to be a combination between ability and execution. So a guy with a raw 99 MPH fastball that he can't spot will rank alongside a guy with a 95 that he spots well and another guy with both a two-seam with some sink and a four-seam to come up and in with. So guessing one guy at time maybe, tell me who these cats may be. Remember the whole system is available. Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

Gwreck Jun 13 2007 09:16 PM

Aaron Heilman -- #2 on the changeup list?

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 09:18 PM

We're looking at only prospects. Non-Major Leaguers.

martin Jun 13 2007 09:22 PM

they say philip humber has a wicked curve, and i believe deolis guerra has a filthy something, a change possibly. gotta go with pelfrey on the fastball.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 09:48 PM

Martin says nuts to the one-guess-at-a-time rule. I'm too lazy to push for it and how long would that take anyhow? Thirty-point post. Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Mike Pelfrey[/u:4c1346cfce]______________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Phillip Humber[/u:4c1346cfce]____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) [u:4c1346cfce]Deolis Guerra[/u:4c1346cfce]_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________

Gwreck Jun 13 2007 09:52 PM

Kevin Mulvey on the FB list? Maybe Gurera too?

Frayed Knot Jun 13 2007 09:54 PM

I couldn't name 10 Met pitching prospects at this point.

Johnny Dickshot Jun 13 2007 09:56 PM

Bobby Parnell: Best slider, No. 4 fastball, No. 6 curveball, No. 9 changeup. He also throws the best forkball, best splitter, best eephus, best spitter, best knuckleball and baddest-ass forehand flick.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 09:56 PM

Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Mike Pelfrey[/u:768c1ec07e]______________ 2) ________________________ 3) [u:768c1ec07e]Kevin Mulvey[/u:768c1ec07e]_____________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Phillip Humber[/u:768c1ec07e]____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) [u:768c1ec07e]Deolis Guerra[/u:768c1ec07e]_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ OK, that's eight to Gwreck, minus one for getting Deolis wrong. Seven points total.

cleonjones11 Jun 13 2007 09:59 PM

Kunz for slider

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 10:01 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Bobby Parnell: Best slider, No. 4 fastball, No. 6 curveball, No. 9 changeup. He also throws the best forkball, best splitter, best eephus, best spitter, best knuckleball and baddest-ass forehand flick. Second best slider. Fifth-best curveball. Not appearring on the curveball or changeup list. Thirteen points Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 1) Mike Pelfrey______________ 2) ________________________ 3) Kevin Mulvey_____________ 4) ________________________ 5) Bobby Parnell____________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 1) Phillip Humber____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 1) Deolis Guerra_____________ 2) ________________________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) _______________________ Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 1) ________________________ 2) Bobby Parnell____________ 3) ________________________ 4) ________________________ 5) ________________________ 6) ________________________ 7) ________________________ 8) ________________________ 9) ________________________ 10) ________________________ OK, that's eight to Gwreck, minus one for getting Deolis wrong. Seven points total.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 10:01 PM

cleonjones11 wrote: Kunz for slider Not in the system yet.

martin Jun 13 2007 10:16 PM

you would have to be a serious maniac to even know the names of more than 3 or 4 more pitching prospects.

Edgy DC Jun 13 2007 10:31 PM

cleonjones11 Jun 13 2007 11:44 PM

Michael Devaney curveball and Tobi Stoner fastball

Edgy DC Jun 14 2007 07:26 AM

Both are there. But I forgoot to bring the issue to work. So this quiz goes on hiatus until later. A note to the wise: this article was clearly filed at least two months ago, as it includes Blake "The Fake" McGinley, who is now out of the system, among the top changer-uppers.

iramets Jun 14 2007 07:47 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The line "...and she's dancing like she's like's never danced before" is extremely ambiguous. 1) she's dancing much better than she's ever danced before and 2) she's dancing like someone who is taking her very first dance steps

Edgy DC Jun 14 2007 08:29 AM

To define the meaning of a Michael Sembello line is like trying to box the light from a shooting star, trying to cage a moment. It's there, then it's gone! Just a steel town girl on a Saturday night Looking for the fight of her life In the real time world no one sees her at all They all say she's crazy Locking rhythms to the beat of her heart Changing movement into the light She has danced into the danger zone When the dancer becomes the dance. It can cut you like a knife If the gift becomes the fire On the wire between will and what will be She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before On the ice bleu line of insanity Is a place most never see It's a hard won place of mystery Touch it but can't hold it You work all your life for that moment in time It can come or pass you by It's push, shove world but there's always a chance If the hunger stays the night There's a cold kinetic heat Struggling, stretching for the peak Never stopping with her head against the wind She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before It can cut you like a knife If the gift becomes the fire On the wire between will and what will be She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before She's a maniac, a maniac on the floor And she's dancing like she's never danced before You can touch it, ira, but never hold it. Never ever hold it.

iramets Jun 14 2007 08:35 AM

How did you know I was touching it?

Rockin' Doc Jun 14 2007 11:16 AM

Are there any hitters amongst the Mets prospects?

Edgy DC Jun 14 2007 11:20 AM

There are. None made the list of best curveballs though.

Rockin' Doc Jun 14 2007 11:25 AM

Probably not, but hopefully some of them can at least hit one.* *Don't mind me, the Mets noffense has me in a rather pissy mood right now.

cleonjones11 Jun 14 2007 09:47 PM

Yes

Edgy DC Jul 02 2007 10:30 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 03 2007 07:06 AM

Yes? I dropped this mid-stream. The list went as follows. Top Ten Fastballs in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose De La Torre[/u:a0bba8be08]_________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Eric Brown[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Nick Carr[/u:a0bba8be08]________________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Tobi Stoner[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Bobby Parnell[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]John Holdzkom[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Kevin Mulvey[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Philip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Mike Pelfrey**[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ Top Ten Curveballs in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose Sanchez[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Todd Privett[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Scott Hyde[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Julio Polanco[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Michael Devaney[/u:a0bba8be08]__________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Tobi Stoner[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]Jeff Landing[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Robert Paulk[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Jonathan Niese[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Phillip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ Top Ten Changeups in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Blake Eager[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Philip Humber[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Jeff Landing[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Miguel Panango[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Jake Ruckle[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Blake McGinley*[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]German Marte[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Eddie Camacho[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Deolis Guerra[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ Top Ten Sliders in the Mets System 10) [u:a0bba8be08]Josh Stinson[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 9) [u:a0bba8be08]Jake Ruckle[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 8) [u:a0bba8be08]Marcello Perez[/u:a0bba8be08]____________ 7) [u:a0bba8be08]Kevin Mulvey[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 6) [u:a0bba8be08]Eric Brown[/u:a0bba8be08]________________ 5) [u:a0bba8be08]Jose De La Torre[/u:a0bba8be08]___________ 4) [u:a0bba8be08]Brandon Nall[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ 3) [u:a0bba8be08]Joe Smith**[/u:a0bba8be08]_______________ 2) [u:a0bba8be08]Bobby Parnell[/u:a0bba8be08]_____________ 1) [u:a0bba8be08]Shane Hawk[/u:a0bba8be08]______________ * No longer in system. ** No longer in minors.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 03 2007 06:51 AM

Shane Hawk hasn't appeared in a pro game for 2+ years.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 07:04 AM

Yup. His cuff went, followed by his labrum, I think. This report was clearly filed during the spring, thus the references to Blake the Fake being in the system and Bazooka Joe being a prospect. At that time, Hawk was merely two years in the wilderness, but the short season rosters are out and I haven't seen him on one. If he's got a Mormon mission or something to do, I hope he got it out of the way while he was down.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 03 2007 07:37 AM

Holdzkom is another guy not pitching professionally this year. He was the gigantic dorky looking college drop-out with the wild stuff we drafted last year. Jonathan Niese and his cureveball of awesomeness have gone 6-4, 5.15 at St. Lucie. He's given up a lot of hits/runs but has pretty good indicators (73.1 IP, 4 HR, 19/57 BB/K). He's also a pup @ 20 years old. His teammate Jake Ruckle appears to be using his Top-10-rated changes and sliders for relief. Kevin "Fastball/Slider" Mulvey has given up 1 home run in 92.2 innings at Bingo. That sounds pretty good.

Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 08:15 AM

John, who proudly ignores the advice of this thread title, will be getting a late start on short season ball after a month's vacation from St. Lucie. According to the Daily News, 7-6: Pitcher John Holdzkom, the Mets’ fourth-round pick in ’06, was quietly sent home for a month after severely damaging a hotel room, a team official said. Nice going, Jimmy Page.