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Gwreck
Jul 01 2007 11:09 PM

John Maine.

9-4, 2.24. By way of contrast, check out Cole Hamels (9-4, 3.87). Fuentes' 4+ ERA is also strange (and the Rox didn't need him as their lone representative, as he has been in the past).

cleonjones11
Jul 01 2007 11:24 PM

Captain Red Ass

metirish
Jul 02 2007 04:50 AM

I don't consider LoDuca as a snub,he got beat in a fan vote...Maine should be there,it's a flawed system that every year leaves worthy plaers at home.

Elster88
Jul 02 2007 06:13 AM

Cole Hamels has great stuff. But his ERA is 3.87. At this point I'd say Maine is a better pitcher.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 02 2007 06:48 AM

Rollins.

metirish
Jul 02 2007 07:19 AM

Very heated argument last night on Baseball Tonight between Phillips and Kruk and Eric Young(i think it was him),Young and Kruk thought Rollins got jobbed,Kruk asking(shouting) Phillips the old nugget of who he would want at bat with two men out in the ninth,I forget the situation,game tied man on third I think,Rollins or Reyes..

metsmarathon
Jul 02 2007 09:46 AM

well, last year, jose reyes had a 1.343 OPS with RISP, 2 outs, compared to rollins' 0.726 OPS, good for only about 7th among starting NL shortstops.

this year, rollins has the lead, 0.934 to 0.797, 2nd vs about 5th


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in late innings this year, reyes has had 4 at bats with risp, and has no hits to show for himself, with a walk, a strikeout, and two runs scored.

in late innings this year, rollins has had 8 at bats with risp, has a single, triple, a walk, and two strikeouts.

wow! such a big difference!

cleonjones11
Jul 02 2007 09:56 AM

Jose Reyes, Maine and Loduca are Mets...Thats good enuff..The Phillies can kiss my ass or to quote Arods wife........

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 02 2007 10:03 AM

Screw Rollins. If there was a shortstop snub it was Hanley Ramirez.

Chris Young from San Diego was ripped more than John Maine.

How does Aaron Rowand make the team and not Adam Dunn?

Freddy Sanchez as the lone Pirate over more deserving Gorzellany or Snell. You could kick Fuentes off for either of those guys.

Dmitri Young's having a nice year, but if they didn't have to pick a Nat, Ryan Howard probably goes.

Aaron Rowand?

Really?

TheOldMole
Jul 02 2007 10:41 AM

How about quoting Jose Canseco's wife?

Nymr83
Jul 02 2007 11:42 AM

i think the 1 per team rule needs to be scrapped. there are 10 guys more deserving than Dmitri Young (by the way, if i were the Nats i'd be looking very hard at sending him to an AL-team for a prospect or two.)

metsguyinmichigan
Jul 02 2007 12:47 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
i think the 1 per team rule needs to be scrapped. there are 10 guys more deserving than Dmitri Young (by the way, if i were the Nats i'd be looking very hard at sending him to an AL-team for a prospect or two.)


I don't mind the rule. For a lot of years, it was the only way one of our boys got to the game.

Unless, of course, it was the year Bleepin' Benitez was our sole rep and of course didn' get into the game. And I believe that was his last time in a Mets uniform.

As for Maine and some of the others, it's early. We always see a bunch of "injuries" pop up in the week before the game, or guys who start on Sunday and won't be able to pitch, so they back out. (This doesn't count the infamous Barry Zito debacle of 2003 when Selig deemed Zito "injured" -- which was news to Zito -- to put Clemens on the roster because they thought it was his last year.)

metsmarathon
Jul 02 2007 12:49 PM

i like the 1-per-team rule. not only does it keep the less-fortunate teams interested, but it also sets up much more interesting post-ASG-ballot announcement discussions.

like, you can't just say that freddy sanchez didnt deserve to be an all star over, well, whoever else plays second base - you also have to consider who else on the pirates is actually deserving, and subsequently who from other teams you'd then give the boot to, with all of the same implications to be considered there as well.

its kinda like the nba salary matching thing with trades - sure, it makes it more frustrating if you're rooting for a team and want to see them make smarter personnel decisions, but if you're on the outside discussing potential roster moves, then it makes for much more interesting and involved discussions.

attgig
Jul 02 2007 01:19 PM

you can make an argument for hanley, renteria, and rollins deserving to be on there.

I would've taken one of them and dropped a 1bman.