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Mid Season Rating
MFS62 Jul 03 2007 08:48 AM |
The season's half over.
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metirish Jul 03 2007 08:53 AM |
I'll give them all an E for effort....
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 03 2007 08:58 AM |
They've battled.
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metirish Jul 03 2007 09:03 AM |
Grade A
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Johnny Dickshot Jul 03 2007 09:08 AM |
What Irish said.
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Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 09:11 AM |
Annual question: Are we grading them productivity relative to expectation (B- for Wright, F for Delgado) or productivity relative to the league (A or A- for Wright, D for Delgado)?
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Benjamin Grimm Jul 03 2007 09:18 AM |
What about Alou and Chavez?
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MFS62 Jul 03 2007 09:21 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 03 2007 09:24 AM |
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How has this been answered before? Was there agreement among the CPF-ers? In school, its grading to whether or not the pupil got the answer correct. IMO, grading to the league is like grading on a curve. There may be some players who are having very good years, but will never have the same numbers as another player at the same position. (e.g. - A healthy Moises Alou would put up some pretty good numbers, but would never put up numbers like the year Miguel Cabrera is having) I'd go with grading to expectations. Later
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metirish Jul 03 2007 09:21 AM |
I did forget about Alou and Chavez,probably because I went to the Mets roster page(25 man,not on it) and tried to grade each player as best I could,at least to my own expectations,I never did consider the questions Edgy posed,at least not that way anyway.
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sharpie Jul 03 2007 09:33 AM |
Sele shouldn't get an incomplete -- he's been there all year.
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smg58 Jul 03 2007 10:52 AM |
Grade A
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Vic Sage Jul 03 2007 11:04 AM |
Grade A
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smg58 Jul 03 2007 11:15 AM |
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A little of both, I guess. I'm not going to make any claim that my method of evaluation is 100% objective.
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Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 11:18 AM |
Grading by position:
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Nymr83 Jul 03 2007 11:40 AM |
position players (sorted by ABs)
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cleonjones11 Jul 03 2007 08:37 PM |
Gooden B
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Nymr83 Jul 03 2007 09:18 PM |
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why is LF so low? Alou has been good (122 OPS+) when healthy, even if his replacements were awful thats still at least a C
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Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 09:35 PM |
Good averaged with awful doesn't come to average.
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Nymr83 Jul 03 2007 09:40 PM |
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even if thats true F is awful, you've acknowledged that Alou has been good (i think) so where is the F coming from? how many PA's have the Mets gotten in LF (i'm not sure where to find this), what % were Alou's? I'd guess half and half at B+ level (for argument's sake) + half at however bad you think the other half was, doesnt = F.
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Edgy DC Jul 03 2007 10:08 PM |
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F is awful. But we get an F plus, merely very bad.
I'm willing to bump us up to D- because of the defense and baserunning we get from Chavez and Gomez, but probably not higher.
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Edgy DC Jul 15 2007 02:58 PM |
Grading the pitching against their peers.
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Nymr83 Jul 15 2007 09:27 PM |
who is who? are we going by preseason roles or who i'd NOW consider he top starter?
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Edgy DC Jul 15 2007 09:44 PM |
Rank the starters by their ERAs as starters. Whoever is top is the #1 starter for the purpose of judging the team. If his workload isn't big enough to represent the full 20% of the starts, that slot takes as many typical starts as it needs from the starter with the next best ERA. (If he started more than the 20%, the exceeding games serve the number-two slot also.
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