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Can it core a apple?

How do you feel about the Mets Magic Hat and Apple?

Good	19 votes
Indifferent	9 votes
Not good	1 votes

Edgy DC Jul 13 2007 07:34 PM

This is a key question. Please elaborate on your answer below.

Nymr83 Jul 13 2007 07:39 PM

i picked "indifferent" because as i explained in the other thread i like it at Shea but don't want to see it migrate to the new place.

cooby Jul 13 2007 08:17 PM

I voted yes...I would much rather see that than a giant coke bottle, ferris wheel, etc.

metsmarathon Jul 13 2007 08:19 PM

i like it. its a rather uniquely-met thing, and fun. i like hte bouncing apple hat graphic they play on the big screen when mets hit homers. i'd like to see the apple make the transition to citifield, but, um, not the current, ratty, beat up incarnation. a new apple and hat would be a good thing.

Edgy DC Jul 13 2007 08:25 PM

It's differmints, and it's ours. Yeah, it's a lowbrow attraction. Good. Class is an illusion. A boring illusion.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2007 08:26 PM

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I guess I don't care if it's a new apple or the old apple, but there has to be an apple at CitiField. LOVE the apple.

Batty31 Jul 13 2007 08:29 PM

It's cheesy, but that Apple is ours! Plus I was always partial to the magic bit. I would like to see it back, but a bit more modernized version...the current one is looking a little over ripe.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2007 08:52 PM

I love the apple!

Rockin' Doc Jul 13 2007 10:58 PM

Whatever. I really don't care one way or the other. The current hat and apple looks pretty worn so I would hope that they at least modernize it and make it fresh if they elect to take it to Citifield.

G-Fafif Jul 14 2007 02:38 AM

Ho, ho, ho It's magic, you know Never believe it's not so It's magic, you know Never believe, it's not so Never been awake Never seen a day break Leaning on my pillow in the morning Lazy day in bed Music in my head Crazy music playing in the morning light Ho, ho, ho It's magic, you know Never believe it's not so It's magic, you know Never believe, it's not so I love my sunny day Dream of far away Dreaming on my pillow in the morning Never been awake Never seen a day break Leaning on my pillow in the morning light Ho, ho, ho It's magic, you know Never believe it's not so It's magic, you know Never believe, it's not so Ho, ho, ho It's magic, you know Never believe it's not so It's magic, you know Never believe, it's not so

MFS62 Jul 14 2007 05:32 AM

My first reaction was to say that it (rising up for a home run) was hokey and cheesey - the kind of thing you would find in places not called New York. But New York IS the apple and the apple IS New York. So, why not? Later

Kid Carsey Jul 14 2007 06:47 AM

I don't feel indifferent to it, I am indifferent to it.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2007 07:56 AM

I voted to keep it. It's silly, it's quirky, it's fun, and it's unique.

Kid Carsey Jul 14 2007 08:00 AM

SteveJRogers know youse all better than me, I guess.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2007 08:06 AM

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

seawolf17 Jul 14 2007 10:31 AM

Why is it surprising that a gaggle of Mets fans like one of the iconic Mets symbols of our era? I honestly would have been stunned if the poll was any different than it is.

metirish Jul 14 2007 10:38 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I voted to keep it. It's silly, it's quirky, it's fun, and it's unique. That's how I feel,when I took my wife to her first game this year and Green hit a home run she loved the apple coming up,as do I.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2007 11:42 AM

Good 82% [ 14 ] Indifferent 17% [ 3 ] Not good 0% [ 0 ] Apparently, this is not a key question.

Nymr83 Jul 14 2007 12:12 PM

apparently its barely a question at all.

Elster88 Jul 14 2007 02:17 PM

If you don't like the apple you're a communist

cooby Jul 14 2007 03:12 PM

Btw, Edgy, this is a truly marvelous thread title

Kid Carsey Jul 14 2007 03:18 PM

E88:>>> If you don't like the apple you're a communist<<< Al Queda apologist would have been more timely, but a funny line nonetheless.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2007 03:19 PM

Elster88 wrote: If you don't like the apple you're a communist Nyet! Actually, I'm in the indifferent category. Doesn't bother me that it's there, wouldn't miss it if it disappeared. I bet if it makes the move across the way it does so with a sponsor.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2007 03:40 PM Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Jul 16 2007 07:48 AM

The thing is that the "Magic is Back" campaign that the apple grew out of, while largely ridiculed and probably a failure, can and maybe should be viewed now as the first sign of the seriousness with which the Doubleday-Wilpon regime was taking the rescue of the team. That they were using it to sell Grant-era products like Taveras, Treviņo, Flynn, Henderson, and Mazzilli pretty much doomed the effort from the start, but they want ahead anyway, and, if nothing else, they sure cancelled out the Mettle debacle.* The hat's a nice memorial of the Mets getting back to zero, before launching themselves toward Johnson-era success. *It's almost like cancelling karmic debt was part of the initial plan, with management taking pains to undo the hugely unpopular Staub and Kingman deals in 1980-1981, followed by the Seaver deal in 1982-1983. None of those deals seemed to work as well on the field so much as repairing the broken faith with the fanbase.

soupcan Jul 16 2007 07:31 AM

Fine, I'm a pinko-commie scum. Whatever. I hate it. My hatred of it stems from 'The Magic Is Back' campaign. I found that whole era to be just painful. Bill Gallo's horrific 1981 Yearbook cover didn't help. It's cheesy and it doesn't mean anything. It's a magician's hat with an apple coming out of it. How does a magician relate to the Mets exactly? It doesn't. 86 the friggin' thing already.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 16 2007 07:44 AM

I ate it up. I believed the Magic was Back.

seawolf17 Jul 16 2007 07:49 AM

Someone called?

sharpie Jul 16 2007 08:00 AM

I voted indifferent. The only thing that kept me from voting against the apple was the memory of the first game that Lenny and I went to together (other than a game when he was a baby). He was about 4, it was the first game I went to in '95, the post-strike season and was Hideo Nomo's Shea debut, Nomomania (just looked it up, August 25, 1995). In the third the Mets hit two homers (Butch Huskey and Luis Vizcaino). Lenny was very impressed with the apple. Later he would say "more apple" and I tried to explain that he was lucky to see it at all, never mind twice, when good ol' Carl Everett hit one out and the apple made its reappearance. Other than that one day, I don't really care and if they want to jettison it for the new park it would be okay with me.

soupcan Jul 16 2007 08:03 AM

Also - We don't need it anymore. The skyline on top of the scoreboard that has an epileptic seizure after each Met homerun is so much better than the Apple. I'm being serious. I like that. Anybody else noticed that the giant-sized Dunkin' Donuts iced coffee on the top of the left field fence also spins around after a homerun? Wow, let's keep that chintzy thing as part of our team's legacy as well when they move into the new place. Lemmings, all of you!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2007 09:05 AM

soupcan wrote: ...it doesn't mean anything. It's a magician's hat with an apple coming out of it. How does a magician relate to the Mets exactly? That's exactly what I like about it. An apple coming out of a hat makes no sense at all.

Willets Point Jul 16 2007 09:15 AM

"Mets Magic" is a team catch phrase that goes way back.

soupcan Jul 16 2007 09:22 AM

Willets Point wrote: "Mets Magic" is a team catch phrase that goes way back. Yeah, way back to Jerry Della Famina.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 08 2007 11:43 AM

There was an article about this the other day in the Daily News. Apparently the official word is that there will be an apple at Citi Field, but it won't be the current apple. According to a Mets spokesman, the Shea Stadium apple is too fragile and will need to be replaced. The apple will be preserved and displayed somewhere at Citi Field and its place in Mets history will be suitably honored. Of course, it's pure nonsense that a 25-year-old mechanical apple can't be restored and refurbished. You occasionally see cars three times that old on the streets and highways. And they're restoring Leonardo's "Last Supper," which, if I have my dates right, is much older than the Shea Stadium apple. The article said that there's a movement among Mets fans not just to have an apple at Citi Field, but to have the apple from Shea. I think it would be a nice tribute to Shea Stadium to have its apple survive, but I can't imagine being so worked up about this to start or get involved in a "movement."

Edgy DC Aug 08 2007 11:49 AM

Does the apple have a page in the UMDB?

holychicken Aug 08 2007 11:59 AM

The hat is so ghetto. It looks like it was made by a bunch of highschoolers the night before the big homecoming game. That being said, I always watch it go up after a homerun.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 08 2007 12:02 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Does the apple have a page in the UMDB? No. So far only human beings (and Roger Clemens) have been eligible.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 08 2007 12:46 PM

I love it, but I can also see why they'd bring it into a Mets Museum and get a new one for the new yard. Usually, the only thing that comes over to a new stadium is home plate. If they had the apple somewhere on display, everybody would love taking photos and posing with it. It also goes to sow that you can't force a tradition. Sometimes fans fall in love with the goofy, quirky stuff that you don't expect. And there's a difference between cool bad -- the apple, Mr. Met -- and embarrassing bad -- Mettle the mule, Mel Rojas. Let Yankee punks bow to their monument to Phil Rizzutto. Stuff like Bernie Brewer's chalet and a Sauasage race are so much more fun. We have the apple! Now, as for the new stadium, I don't want the apple to become some lame corporate ad, like a CitiBank Home Run Apple. Then it becomes forced.

Edgy DC Aug 08 2007 12:51 PM

So, while not forcing stuff, let's not have a barbecue restaurant named after a fat old-timie sunburned player. Even if we do have the fattest old-timiest sunburnedest player of them all who just happens to be a greasy food chef. Oh, crap, it's inevitable, isn't it?

DocTee Aug 08 2007 02:12 PM

When AT+T opened, there was a mechanical figure, called "Rusty the Robot" sponsored by Old Navy that appeared after every Giants win. He came out of the wall in front of the rightfield bleachers and was roundly booed for doing so. Fans were throwing everything they could get their hands on at this thing, and that's after a Giants win. Management wisely decided to abandon the idea. Now if only they'll replace Lou Seal with the Crazy Crab, SF baseball would be much improved. http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/sf/history/sf_history_timeline_article.jsp?article=31

Benjamin Grimm Aug 08 2007 02:17 PM

Lou Seal??? That's a new one on me. When I read that name, I made three inkblot connections. In order they were: A song by (I think) Little Richard, Mrs. Arnaz, a song by Kenny Rogers.