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doug flynn
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(4/13/01 10:50:52 am)
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Desi Is Not the Answer
I was really troubled last nite when Desi got thrown out at second in the ninth. It
was an awful play. I think it was a terrible move to steal in that situation. You only
do it if you are a great base steeler. That Desi is not. It was a great pitch to steal
on and the throw was on a hop. Still, Desi was out. (If this was his call, kill him
now)
The point is, and i think I have a point, is that Desi is not much of a pinch runner.
He is not much of a defensive shortstop and he is not much of an offensive player.
This should come as no surprise to anyone. So what I want to know is why is he on
this team? How can he contribute? If the goal is to have someone that can give
Rey a day off, that player should either be a solid offensive player who does not
have Rey's glove, or even a poorer offensive player who can at least field the
position. Or how bout a guy that can run and play defense. There must be some no
hit all glove guy out there.
Does anyone disagree?
"Say Hello to My little Friend"
The Big Train
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posts: 1019
(4/13/01 10:52:23 am)
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He was an awful hitter and fielder last year, but I believe he was perfect in stolen
base attempts.
"There’s only one way to time Johnson’s fastball. When you see the arm start
forward-swing." ...Birdie McCree
doc g
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posts: 1685
(4/13/01 11:00:02 am)
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How about if the question is "Who was Lucy's 'Babaloo-singing' husband?", huh?
What about then?
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As Bad As You Think You Are When You're Losing
doug flynn
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posts: 1072
(4/13/01 11:14:55 am)
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Then he is the answer. He is also the answer to the question:
Who promises to contribute nothing to this team this year?
and
Who got thrown out stealing last nite and ran slower than his grandmother in the
process?
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LEFTFIELD
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posts: 1748
(4/13/01 11:16:15 am)
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He can run, he switch hits, can play 2nd, SS or 3rd and maybe the OF.
I'm not sure what kind of multi-talented back-up middle infielder people are looking
for here.
If you find one let me know.
BTW, I thought the steal attempt was the right move.
Javy Lopez (J-Lo?) got a great pitch to throw and, even though it bounced, it was
still perfectly placed. Any other spot and Desi, who was perfect in steal attempts
last year, is in there.
doug flynn
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posts: 1073
(4/13/01 11:33:53 am)
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LF
Your wrong. I was there. I saw it. The pitch was low. And the throw, while on line,
was poor. It was not a great play by J-LO. The point is, if he is such a great or
even decent base steeler, he should have had it made. You can argue about the
strategy. But the point is , if in that situation you are going to steal, you better
damb well be sure to get a good jump and make it. He didn't and from where I sit he
is not all that fast.
I love the J-Lo thing.
"Say Hello to My little Friend"
dak11
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posts: 550
(4/13/01 11:42:19 am)
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DF,
Not starting a fight with you but..
Chances are you'll never have the type of player you want backing Rey up, unless
he comes from the minors. Most major leaguers that have the type of talent you
looking for as a backup will be starting for some team. Why would they be willing to
be a backup when they have the type of talent that you talk about.
Name me a few backup (on other teams) that fit the profile that you'd like. I'm just
curious to the type of (current) backup player you'd like on the Mets.
As far as the basestealing attemp.. I didn't see/hear it, I was doing my taxes. But
usually (depending on the situation) it's a good play to try to steal 2nd with 1 or 2
outs for the home team in the 9th inning of a tie game. Point being that you don't
lose the game if he does get thrown out and if he makes it he's in scoring position.
At the current situation it will take 2 hits to score someone from first since the
outfield will be playing to stop the extrabase hit. It's more of an odds/percentage
type of play and looking at the game log it was a nice time to take the chance.
LEFTFIELD
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posts: 1751
(4/13/01 12:18:50 pm)
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Re: LF
Well, we're just gonna disagree on the pitch - I remember it as higher.
On the throw, the location is the more important thing than the path it takes to get
there. Very few runners beat a perfectly placed throw (which is the only thing that
nailed him) and even the best stealers are thrown out some 15-20% of the time.
Again, he was perfect in 13 attempts last year. I doubt he totally lost that ability
over the winter.
Wahoo
Mets All-Star
posts: 313
(4/13/01 12:34:01 pm)
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LF is right on this one by pointing out how Relaford can play all over the field, and
Valentine craves that type of flexibility when he gets into one of his "time to empty
the bench this inning" modes. Also, he had a hot spring, which might have
convinced some that he is somewhat worthy of being there. In addition, plenty of
people on this forum are ready to give Alfonzo and Zeile time, with good reason, so
why not give Relaford time? A small steal attempt sample does not make for a
bulletproof case.
I also agree that the placement of the throw was dead on, hop or not. If the fielder
doesn't have to sweep down from a throw by his head, that pretty much cancels
out the time difference between a throw that hit the ground and one that doesn't.
They only showed one replay on TBS but I think if that throw was a half a foot
higher, Relaford's in there.
Does anyone who was at the game, or even someone who noted it on TV, think
that perhaps the field conditions affected it? I mean, the rain kept coming last night
and I don't think the weather was blazing yesterday, so perhaps his jump was
slowed down by slippery dirt.
nique71
Mets Veteran
posts: 144
(4/13/01 12:44:52 pm)
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Desi Relaford is not a MLB player
LF,
"He can run, he switch hits, can play 2nd, SS or 3rd and maybe the OF. I'm not
sure what kind of multi-talented back-up middle infielder people are looking for here.
If you find one let me know."
This guy cannot do any of the things you mentioned with any success. If the Mets
cannot find one guy that is better than Desi then the talent pool in MLB is really
crappy.
Relaford had the everyday SS job for two teams last year and is now delegated to a
back up role. What does that say about him?
How about Shawon Dunston?
NYRomy
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
posts: 518
(4/13/01 12:53:23 pm)
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Hello, McFly!!!!! The fact that Desi startedd for two teams last year shouls tell you
one of two things.
1. He is capable enough of handling the job if necessary.
or
2. The talent pool really is bad.
My vote goes to number 1. Man, you people are expecting the rebirth of Ruth as
our back-up shortstop. It's not gonna happen. We have one of the lightest hitting
shortstops in history and you expect his back-up to hit .400 and knock in 100 runs?
Desi Relaford is a utility player. He can play different positions to give certain guys
a night off when they need it. He is not expectede to drive in even 50 runs in a
season because he's not going to get the chances. What he does give you is
flexibilty. Nothing more, nothing less. Deal with it, because unless Barry Larkin
becomes available for free, Rey's our starter and Desi is the back-up.
"And as I found out that day, losing does suck, but nothing diminishes the joy of a good
chicken-fried steak."
doug flynn
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(4/13/01 1:00:50 pm)
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No, I am not expecting Ruth. I am asking for someone who can either (a) hit or (b)
field. He appears to be able to do neither.
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nique71
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posts: 145
(4/13/01 1:10:47 pm)
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Re: Desi Relaford is not a MLB player
If he was so capable why is he riding the bench? Thirty one errors in 2000. That is
why.
If you are defending him then you must be:
a. His agent
or
b. Desi himself
doug flynn
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(4/13/01 1:23:01 pm)
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or C
Plain stupid.
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YGB
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(4/13/01 1:43:47 pm)
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D: Or just not a reactionary numbnuts with no sense of reality and fresh out of
better ideas.
La stagione é lunga e dura
LEFTFIELD
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posts: 1752
(4/13/01 1:46:41 pm)
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Re: Desi Is Not the Answer
I'm not defending Relaford as an everyday player, merely as a backup. In fact I
wouldn't be defending him at all if I didn't think that the abuse he's taken on this
forum (while doing nothing wrong so far) has been excessive.
Dunston:
* Can't, by his own admission, play SS anymore
* Doesn't walk - EVER
* Was offered arbitration by the Mets and turned it down
* Is on another team at the present moment (you can look it up)
Relaford is coming off a lousy year but has some skills and is still young.
You find that elusive 5-tool backup out there I'm with y'all. In the meantime keep
repeating; Bogar, Sojo, Lopez, Abbott, Grebak, Schumpert, ...
doug flynn
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(4/13/01 1:48:47 pm)
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D: Or just not a reactionary numbnuts with no sense of reality and fresh out of
better ideas
YGB- too many double negatives. Not very well written. But I have to say, your
hostility has not gone unnoticed. Just what exactly is your malfunction? No sex
lately?
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dak11
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
posts: 555
(4/13/01 2:31:46 pm)
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Re: Desi Is Not the Answer
Df,
I ask you again..
"Name me a few backup (on other teams) that fit the profile that you'd like. I'm just
curious to the type of (current) backup player you'd like on the Mets."
It's easy to say we need this 'TYPE' of player but let us know what 'REAL' players
you'd like to see as a backup.
DF -"I am asking for someone who can either (a) hit or (b) field"
Does this mean you wouldn't mind someone like Canseco out at SS? He could
probably hit like you'd want.
Edited by: dak11 at: 4/13/01 2:39:22 pm
metsfaninredsoxland
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posts: 59
(4/13/01 2:43:02 pm)
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Maybe we should bring back Kevin Elster
metsrule4ever2k
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posts: 120
(4/13/01 2:43:14 pm)
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I was against Relaford making the team from the beginning. He needs to be on a
team that is young and that has a spot for him. Hes only in his 20s. Sad thing is no
one wants him. Im sure the St Paul Saints would pick him up.
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REYREYO
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posts: 832
(4/13/01 2:55:46 pm)
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although we already tried him, Viscaino wouldn't be a bad backup. but the whole
skankee thing and with him being on houston kinda sucks. I'm going to stick with
Romy and Lf on this one and say that desi will do all that is expected of him. Not by
the forum, but by the manager. The other truth is, is that since rey is hitting, the
odds of him coming out of many games aren't great.
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doug flynn
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posts: 1081
(4/13/01 2:59:12 pm)
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Re: Desi Is Not the Answer
Dak-
I ask you again- so what. Keep asking. Ask Away. Ask ask and away. Ask this. Ask
that. Yutz.
I have told you before, it is too taxing to converse with you because you do not read
carefully. Let me give you the executive summary, yet again.
I don't like Desi because
He can't hit
He can't field well
(and he can't steal a base apparently, but thats beside the point)
No Dak, I don't think Jose would make a good backup shortstop. (Its like talking to a
nursery school kid). The point, Dak, if thats your real name, is that what is Desi
bringing to the team to merit taking up a roster spot? If the thinking is he is an
improvement on Rey offensively who can replace Rey in critical situations or when
people get tired of Rey's limitations, no evidence seen of that yet.
And I am not sure there is a basis for that historically.
If the thinking is, forget offense, we need a reliable back-up ss to give Rey a rest from
time to time or to come into a game late after Rey or pinch hit for etc. , well his
defense is suspect.
My point is, there must be someone out there, in the minor leagues even, that can
defense better than DESI. That would be a better backup than a guy who is a ? in the
field, if thats the purpose of the back-up.
If the purpose of the back-up is a little more stick, and negligible glove in the back-up
SS, which I object to, then again there must be someone better out there.
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YGB
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(4/13/01 3:12:59 pm)
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If the purpose of the back-up is a little more stick, and negligible glove in the back-up
SS, which I object to, then again there must be someone better out there.
Just answer the question. And stop writing such mangled sentences. And dont bait me
into making a joke about your mother.
La stagione é lunga e dura
nique71
Mets Veteran
posts: 146
(4/13/01 3:20:02 pm)
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Desi should not even be ?, so forget the answer.
LF,
You asked for a backup I gave you one.
Dunston is a better ML player than Desi. He was available before he signed with SF.
That walk scenario you just played was lame. How many times has Desi walked? The
guy is a .220 career hitter! Oh I guess he can walk he just can't hit. I am sure if you
played Shawon at SS he would not make THIRTY ONE ERRORS!!!! You still have not
addressed that...
Has some skills? He has alot of skill at making errors.
dak11
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
posts: 556
(4/13/01 3:28:51 pm)
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Ive read your posts and I already know why you don't like Desi. I'm not a big fan of his
either. But my point is there are not that many backup SS's that offer what you are
looking for.
Would you prefer a Luis Lopez (former Met) type player instead of Desi? I just do not
see the type of player you're looking for.
The current major league backups are : Bogar,
Grebeck, Lansing, R. Martinez (SF), Merloni, L. Ordaz, A. Ojeda, J. Reboulet, S.
Sheldon, Sojo, and Uribe just to name a few.
Which one of these current backups do you think is better then Relaford? All of these
players are backups for a reason -- They either can't consistently hit, field, or do both
well. Hopefully Relaford will just get a handful of innings this year and Rey will stay
healthy. But looking over the current crop of backups Relaford is probably one of the
better one's (in my opinion).
DF -- Can we at least try to be civil to each other? I'm not going out of my way to rial
you up. Just want some friendly debate.
doug flynn
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/13/01 3:30:28 pm)
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Re: Desi should not even be ?, so forget the answer.
YGB- mother jokes. Go for it. I guess I was confused by what the question was? So I
had trouble answering it. I guess the answer is YGB. And the question must have
been, who is the poster child for Condoms. Or better yet, what happens when your
parents are from Kentucky and actually cousins?
"Say Hello to My little Friend"
LEFTFIELD
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(4/13/01 4:08:28 pm)
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Re: Desi should not even be ?, so forget the answer.
OK Nique, or Flynn or anyone else who's getting bent all out of shape over the 25th
spot on the roster, I'll be a little more clear;
Name who you'd prefer as back-up SS OUT OF THOSE WHO CAN ACTUALLY PLAY SS -
cuz that (among other things) is Relaford's role on this team.
So far the answers to this question have consisted of:
* someone who has NEVER PLAYED the position; McEwing
* someone who admits that he's physically incapable of playing the position; Dunston
* and the ever popular; 'someone out there'
Most of us couln't NAME the 25th spot on most teams' rosters, yet we're acting as if
ours (someone who was a full-time player recently) is going to cost us the pennant.
I just don't get it.
nique71
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(4/13/01 4:20:19 pm)
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Re: Desi should not even be ?,so forget the answer
You're the only one bent. Thirty one errors last year (and 20 errors avg per year)
shows me that he can't play the position either. If he can't play D then he is useless.
But you are right about one thing, it's the 25th spot on the team. So essentially who
cares...until Bobby V PH's for Rey in a close and late scenario and Des-E is put in for
"defensive" purposes. Melvin Mora got traded because he could not play "D" at the
position and cost the Mets 2-3 games in one week. But you are right it just the 25th
spot.
dak11
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(4/13/01 4:30:36 pm)
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nique,
There's a difference between Mora and Relaford. Mora had to be a starter. Relaford
will only get a few innings here and there and an occational start -- ie a backup
player. Everyone knew that Mora was an average fielding SS at best but I doubt no
one realized how much he couldn't play EVERYDAY. You didn't hear anyone complain
when Mora played SS (as a backup) until his weakness was magnified by having to
play everday.
I'm sure that if Ordonez goes down SP will be on the phone looking for a SS. Take
Relaford for what he is now -- a backup -- and not what he was -- an average SS at
best.
How many innings do you really think he'll play if Ordonez stays healthy? 50-70 out of
a possible (estimate) 1500 innings?
frankrizzo1960
Mets Rookie
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(4/13/01 6:03:45 pm)
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Using Relaford as a pinch runner and not keeping him in the game defeats BV's reason
of flexability.
Need a big bat AND a quality pitcher or it's asta la vista baby.
doug flynn
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/13/01 7:23:09 pm)
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Dak- I do not yet have the answer, because who really pays attention to backup
shortstops. I have to say that with all the attention SP played to the back-up SS
situation in the offseason, he could have come up with something a little better. I am
not looking for offense, just some solid D. And speed would not hurt. Vizcaiano would
have been great. I hated losing him in the first place. I'll think of someone and let SP
and you know.
There just has to be a better answer than Desi.
"Say Hello to My little Friend"
doug flynn
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/13/01 9:42:56 pm)
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Mother F-er first pitch fing piece of Shite crap no good for nothing worthless dog ass .
DAMB YOU
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nique71
Mets Veteran
posts: 150
(4/13/01 9:54:03 pm)
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Doug,
You did not like that swing? He was swinging for the fences. Too bad it was in the
opposite direction.
doug flynn
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/13/01 10:10:06 pm)
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Honestly, he is the second coming of John Nonelly.
Why use him when Zeile is on the bench? And Toca?
DESI SUCKS COK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sell the Team NOW
Mets Starter
posts: 66
(4/13/01 11:08:09 pm)
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Bull crap! Louis Soho would have been a great aqcuisition last year and could have
been that back up this year. Instead we have Desi (Where's Lucy?) Releford!
SELL THE TEAM NOW!!!
NYRomy
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(4/13/01 11:11:16 pm)
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Doug: The Mets have played 10 friggen games. Can you please lighten up just a hair?
My god, you act as if it's the middle of September and we're only one game back. If
and when it gets to that point and Desi still has yet to do anything, then by all means,
complain. But this constant bitching and moaning is getting ridiculous. It's almost as if
you can't find anything else to complain about so you find one of the few weak links
on the team and go for the jugular. Give this team a little more than two weeks to
declare them all a bunch of losers. Does Alfonzo suck? No. And as for looking for
someone who can play defense, how many errors does Relaford have this year? Let me
know when you pull that size 13 out of your mouth.
nique: Read above. Substitute size 2 for size 13. Follow rest of directions.
"And as I found out that day, losing does suck, but nothing diminishes the joy of a good
chicken-fried steak."
nique71
Mets All-Star
posts: 156
(4/13/01 11:51:44 pm)
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Romy,
He has 0 errors to match his batting average.
Sorry I don't share the same opinion of your client as you do. (or if you are acutally
Desi then I don't share the same opinion that you have of yourself or if you are his
parent then I don't share the same opinion that you have of your son)
Never have. Never will. Didn't need two full weeks to realize Desi was a loser but now
that two weeks have passed he hasn't done much to prove me wrong.
doug flynn
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/14/01 12:04:28 am)
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Romy-
You have proved me wrong. You are an a$$hole, after all. Attack me will you? Do You
love Desi? Nothing wrong with admitting it? ITs cool. But he sucks. And get your facts
stright next time you surface-- I have never said anything negative about Fonzie. I
know, you don't worry about facts. And your right, I should lighten up, because the
games in APril don't count in the standings. My bad.
"Say Hello to My little Friend"
NYRomy
Mets Hall-Of-Famer
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(4/14/01 12:08:16 am)
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nique: You keep bringing up how Desi had 31 errors, last year. Jose Lima played
horrible last year. Does that mean he sucks? He should be out of the league now
because, damn, he had one really bad season. And as LF said, you act as if Desi is
being asked to be the savior of this team. He is the 25th man on the roster. He is a
back-up for a reason. However, he is also in the majors for a reason. Quit whining
about a problem that's not really there and try to actually enjoy baseball.
"And as I found out that day, losing does suck, but nothing diminishes the joy of a good
chicken-fried steak."
nique71
Mets All-Star
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(4/14/01 12:17:29 am)
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I'll agree to disagree with you two. To be continued...
Sell the Team NOW
Mets Starter
posts: 77
(4/14/01 12:20:38 am)
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Jose Lima was 2nd in the voting for CY Young in 1999.
Desi Releford HAS ALWAYS SUCKED.
your analogy is a weak one.
And yes, releford can do much damage if he is going to be counted on to pinch hit in
key situations like tonight.
he stinks, and has no business being on the roster of an NL Championship team.
Do you think the Yankees would ever have a bum like him IN THEIR ORGANIZATION, let
alone on the major league level?
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NYRomy
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(4/14/01 12:35:05 am)
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I know you never said anything bad about Fonzie, but how bad is he playing right
now? But I don't see anyone bitching about him playing that way? Why, because it's
only the beginning of the season and there's plenty of time to fix problems. I don't
love Desi. In fact, I would rather have someone else on the team in his place, if there
were a better alternative. Right now there is no better alternative. So if we're giving
Fonzie a mulligan, why make Desi count all his strokes? If realizing it's only the
beginning of the season makes me an a$$hole, then so be it. I'd rather be an a$$hole
than a pessimistic little toad like you anyway.
"And as I found out that day, losing does suck, but nothing diminishes the joy of a good
chicken-fried steak."
Edited by: NYRomy at: 4/14/01 12:35:55 am
NYRomy
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(4/14/01 12:44:41 am)
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Quote:
Do you think the Yankees would ever have a bum like him IN THEIR
ORGANIZATION, let alone on the major league level?
Ever hear of a guy named Joe Oliver? Not a bad guy, but not exactly a superstar
either. His career average is .247. Defensively he averages about 6 errors and 7
passed balls per season. Not exaclty all-star calibur is it?
My biggest problem is it's 10 damn games into the season and everyone is predicting
it's the end of the friggen world. Grow the hell up people. When a really good team
only ends up winning 60% of it's games by the end of the season what makes you
think starting off 4-6 is such a horrible thing? Please tell me how the last plyer on the
roster is going to affect the actual final standings anymore than the rest of the team
does?
"And as I found out that day, losing does suck, but nothing diminishes the joy of a good
chicken-fried steak."
The Stork
Mets Rookie
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(4/14/01 2:45:01 pm)
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What we have here is a failure to communicate
I think the overriding issue (beyond our pathetic offense thus far) is the Mets'
predilection for playing people out of position. I won't get into the Desi Relaford
debate; suffice to say he's no prize. Still, he hasn't played outfield on a regular basis
before and a handful of games in Spring Training does not make him a viable backup.
Sadly, this trend is old hat around Shea -- Juan Samuel in CF, Zeile at 1B (we were
spoiled by the gloves of Hernandez and Olerud), Hundley in the OF, etc. The only time
I remember that working well was Alfonzo moving around.
We need speed on the field, not necessarily on the bench.
We need gloves on the field.
We need bats on the field.
If everyone is healthy, then Shinjo/Perez would be good fourth/fifth outfielders HAD
WE obtained a real right fielder with a big stick in the off season. Then Daryl Hamilton
could gracefully retire and we could fill that roster spot with a good glove-no hit SS
backup who, as it's been pointed out, would likely only play 50-70 innings in the field
anyway (barring injury).
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