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IGT Game 2, 7/28 doubledip

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 04:51 PM

If Pelfrey's ever going to get a win, Now Is The Time. Not only is the opponent right, but the opportunity is Shirley there to unseat So-So next time around. Jiminez Belliard Zimmerman Young Kearns Schneider Fick Langerhans Hanrahan Reyes Gotay Wright Delgado Alou Green LoDuca Milledge Pelfrey

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 04:54 PM

Hanrahan is making his MLB debut tonite. He's a 25-y.o. minor league free agent who was 5-4, 3.70 at AAA with 71 Ks in 75 IP.

iramets Jul 28 2007 05:21 PM

Keith was offering a strange, nigh upon incredible, explanation of Pelfrey's lack of MLB success to date in the top of the first: Pelfrey was formerly a FB-Curve pitcher, and the Mets switched him over into a FB-Slider pitcher in ST, "So naturally it's to be expected that he wouldn't have immediate success with the new slider" or WTTE. Hold the phone! You're telling me, Keith, the Mets deliberately did something to Pelfrey that THEY KNEW WOULD HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON HIS PITCHING IN THE SHORT RUN and, knowing that, they then chose to make him a regular starter? What part of this do you think is utter crap? Even I don't think the Mets are so self-destructive to do that. Wiggy has been traded for Dan Wheeler.

bmfc1 Jul 28 2007 05:54 PM

The next time that Pelfrey is scheduled to start, why don't the Mets just forfeit because the result will be the same. Brian Lawrence is pitching great in AAA but let's call up the guy with the 0-7 record. It's not like the Mets are in a pennant race! And if Omar was showcasing Pelfrey, well who would want him now... I mean, other than the Mets?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 05:55 PM

So much for Pelfrey's claiming of a rotation spot on the strength of this start. Edit: I'm not campaigning to trade him. He's got ability... you just have to wait for it. Getting batted around and making bad pitches is what young pitchers do.

iramets Jul 28 2007 06:00 PM

if anyone understands Keith's logic (or the Mets' logic, if Keith was accurate and I've rendered his thoughts correctly), I;d love to know what he meant.

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 06:05 PM

Keith's been at Shea since probably ten o'clock this morning after a night game. Who knows what the fuck he's thinking or saying. You're whackier than he is if it makes you think of Wiggy imho.

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 06:17 PM

Cy Hanrahan making the most of his first game in the bigs after seven years in the minors. Wow. Puttin' up a dough nut through four, and he hit a triple in his first big league AB to boot for chrissake.

bmfc1 Jul 28 2007 06:23 PM

I'm assuming (hoping) that Pelfrey goes back to NO after the game... is it allowable to recall Chip Ambres yet? He was DFA'd and just cleared waivers.

iramets Jul 28 2007 06:42 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: Keith's been at Shea since probably ten o'clock this morning after a night game. Who knows what the fuck he's thinking or saying. You're whackier than he is if it makes you think of Wiggy imho. It didn't make me think of Wiggy--Gary announced that Wiggy had been traded for Dan Wheeler today. Does sharing that information make me insane, or was I born that way, iyho?

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 06:47 PM

I was kidding, ira. I know it's not always easy to tell. Try this rubric: when I write something so silly, so paranoid, so loopy that you're sure I must be joking around, I'm probably not serious.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 06:47 PM

No matter what haps, this guy has had a debut more memorable than I'm comfortable with.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 06:48 PM

And on that note, Wright takes a swallow of Schaefer and ends the shutout.

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 06:49 PM

Talk to me CARLOS DELGADO!!!

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 06:49 PM

Whammo

iramets Jul 28 2007 06:49 PM

Delgado gets Pelfrey off Da Hook.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 06:51 PM

No matter what haps, I'm taking credit for that rally.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:08 PM

Another rally in there? Yeah, I'm gonna tell my tale! Come on, Come on, give a listen! Cause I was born lonely Down by the riverside Learned to spin fortune wheels And throw dice And I was just thirteen When I had to leave home Knew i couldn't stick around I had to roam Ain't good looking But you know I ain't shy Ain't afraid to look a girl Right in the eye So if you need some lovin' And you need it right away Take a little time out And maybe I'll stay But I got to ramble! (Ramblin' man) Oh, I got to gamble! (Gamblin' man) Got to, got to ramble! (Ramblin' man) I was born a ramblin' gamblin' man! Yeah, yeah, yeah! Yeah, alright! Here we go now now! I hope you got 'Cause you know I need some I ain't around to love you now And I gotta run Gotta keep moving Never gonna slow down You can have your funky world See you 'round But I got to ramble! (Ramblin' man) Oh, I got to gamble! (Gamblin' man) Got to, got to ramble! (Ramblin' man) I was born a ramblin' gamblin' man!

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:09 PM

King was born a fat kid Never kept his weight down Still he struck out Shawn Green Lefties never got round

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:12 PM

Gracias, Washington. Keith, we need you. Get your foot out of your mouth.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 07:12 PM

Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:13 PM

Lo Duca handling his hammy.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:14 PM

Welcome back, Mike DiFelice.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 07:15 PM

Anderson? WTF?

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:15 PM

Where the hell is John Maine?

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:17 PM

They're sending up Anderson because Washington is going to go to Rauch against Castro. Booth guys agog.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:18 PM

Willie's trying to stay out of the doubleplay also, I guess'm.

Batty31 Jul 28 2007 07:18 PM

Well that was a complete waste of a bench player.

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 07:18 PM

I hope Glavine and a couple of the other pitchers have spikes and fielders gloves should this go the way I feel it may go.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:20 PM

Willie, playing for the win at home.

Gwreck Jul 28 2007 07:21 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Where the hell is John Maine? Starting tomorrow so probably not even in the park.

Batty31 Jul 28 2007 07:21 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: I hope Glavine and a couple of the other pitchers have spikes and fielders gloves should this go the way I feel it may go. I believe Glavine was spotted with his spikes on an inning or so ago.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:24 PM

Damn, Maine's our power off the bench. Jose, Señor Popup.

Rockin' Doc Jul 28 2007 07:24 PM

Depending on the severity of LoDuca's hammie, Sandy Alomar, Jr. may have a short stay in New Orleans.

Kid Carsey Jul 28 2007 07:25 PM

B31: >>>Glavine was spotted with his spikes<<< That's probably where I got that subliminally from.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:27 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Depending on the severity of LoDuca's hammie, Sandy Alomar, Jr. may have a short stay in New Orleans. I'm guessing that the DFA status may prevent him from turning around immediately. I think we're getting DiFelice.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:28 PM

Acta passing on the bunt with Schneider against Felicano?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 07:35 PM

Rauch's de-mulleting has revealed a tattooed back-of-the-neck for Rauch. All you can see is I So it looks like I RAUCH

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:39 PM

Gary called it --- Met pitchers stink with their tags coming out of their jerseys.

bmfc1 Jul 28 2007 07:41 PM

Edgy--if you're home, how are you hearing Gary Cohen? I'm watching on 20 (since mlb.tv and EI are blacked out here with WFAN over mlb audio).

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 07:43 PM

we suck

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:48 PM

Ruben, Gotay this game.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:50 PM

David, Wright this injustice.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:51 PM

Carlos, I can do little with your name, but you're beautiful.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:54 PM

Somebody massage Beltran NOW!!!!

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 07:55 PM

Does Green just inspire them to walk both Castro and Milledge?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 28 2007 07:57 PM

Fookin Aloo.

Rockin' Doc Jul 28 2007 07:58 PM

Damn. So close, but yet so far. The Mets will need a ninth inning rally to pull this one out.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 08:00 PM

With Heilman due up and an injured Beltran the last man on the bench.

Rockin' Doc Jul 28 2007 08:06 PM

If Beltran is totally unavailable, then Glavine is the best bat left.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 08:07 PM

Perez and Sosa both have more power.

Edgy DC Jul 28 2007 08:10 PM

Well, that don't work.

Rockin' Doc Jul 28 2007 08:18 PM

This homestand has not gone very well. This should have been an opportunity to beat up on the have nots of the league, but the Mets have failed to take advantage of the opportunity. The Mets have gone 3-3 against the two teams sporting the worst records in the the NL. The deciding game tomorrow looms large. They really need to win so they can at least hit the road with a winning hometand.

DocTee Jul 28 2007 08:44 PM

That's what kills me: they have a winning road trip against SD and LA, then come home and split with Pittsburgh and Washington.

Nymr83 Jul 28 2007 11:56 PM

i misse game 2 today, what the fuck??? 6 innings 3 runs by Pelfrey is what you pray for given what he's done so far in the majors. feliciano picked the nationals to show he's mortal? Glavine got an AB? way to burn your bench willie.

Gwreck Jul 29 2007 12:39 AM

Nymr83 wrote: Glavine got an AB? way to burn your bench willie. They sent down a position player to make room for Pelfrey. Beltran hurt and unavailable, they could've DLed him but opted not to. LoDuca got hurt during the game. Easley and Anderson were used appropriately. What else would you have done re: the bench?

iramets Jul 29 2007 04:02 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 29 2007 03:04 PM

Gwreck wrote: Easley and Anderson were used appropriately. What else would you have done re: the bench? I'm not sure I understand why Willie chose to PH Anderson rather than Castro. As the announcing team was raving, it made no sense to burn Anderson, since WIllie HAD to put Castro into the game defensively, and that move left him with no bench at all past the 7th inning. I got tired in the 8th inning so I didn't hear further discussion, but I was frankly disappointed not to read an extensive discussion of this utterly boneheaded manuever here (yes, I heard that Anderson was 3-for-5 or something against that pitcher, but that's a tiny sample size)--instead I read the CPF to learn that WIllie is, as Gwreck says, God, or at least appropriate. I mean, is anyone else here completely disgusted with Willie making moves that are utterly counter-intuitive, so much so that the announcers said IN ADVANCE OF THE AT-BAT that it's a no-brainer to PH Castro instead of Anderson, and then DURING the at-bat admit to being utterly puzzled by Willie's move. "It's a situation he didn't have to be in," Gary says, of the pitcher's spot being filled by a pitcher in the ninth. Here's what Willie said after the game, according to this morning's Daily News: "(Anderson) is a professional pinch-hitter. I'd rather have him in that situation," Randolph said. "If I'd had Castro pinch-hit there, they'd have brought in (setup man Jon Rauch)." Instead of my commenting on Willie's use of his bench, here's what the subway squakers had to say about this brainless move by a stubborn, clueless moronager: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/subwaysquawkers/ OE: spelled "intuitive" wrong

Gwreck Jul 29 2007 02:32 PM

The point is that the bench situation is also a product of what Omar gave Willie to work with. I'd like him to just DL Beltran already and let him rest and get healthy. I don't know if this will be the second or third time in the past few years (May '06 and May '07, IIRC, but there may have been another, plus the entire freakin 2005 season) that he's been out for several games with a strained muscle but didn't go on the DL and then slumped afterwards because -- you guessed it -- he wasn't completely healthy. I don't really care that Newhan and Johnson can't really hit, I just want them to stop fucking around with Beltran. It's not like we're missing all that much with him out of the lineup anyway!

Edgy DC Jul 29 2007 02:43 PM

Well, by the end, it was also a product of Randolph's work, as he he pinch-hit Anderson over Castro when Castro was going into the game anyhow, because LoDuca was hurt.

Nymr83 Jul 29 2007 03:42 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Well, by the end, it was also a product of Randolph's work, as he he pinch-hit Anderson over Castro when Castro was going into the game anyhow, because LoDuca was hurt. that was what i meant by "way to burn your bench." yeah, willie is in a tough spot with Beltran on the roster and not playing and a position player going down to bring pelfrey up, but thats all the more reason not to burn two position players when you can use one.

Edgy DC Jul 29 2007 04:58 PM

It's hard to say how much it cost Radolph. Maybe Anderson was absolutely the right guy there. But he wasn't right enough. I'm not sure that a guy who is in too much discomfort to make pitching changes can make such pressure choices, and I'm not sure he shouldn't have taken a week or two off.