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Blame Boras for Mike Pelfrey's 2007?

SteveJRogers Jul 19 2007 09:12 PM

Stealing this from another board, ironcially the poster also stole it from another board: ]Totally stealing this info from another board, but Peter Gammons was on ESPN radio today and remarked that the Red Sox now blame Scott Boras for fucking Craig Hansen's mechanics to high heaven. According to Gammo, Boras keeps his own staff of coaches who advise his clients to keep deliveries that will prolong their career even if it alters the player's ability. Jayson Stark has remarked that the same thing has happened to former stud Mike Pelfrey and that it is a situation that is now permeating throughout the league. If this is true, then wow. I've always supported Boras' negotiation tactics because he always had the interests of his clients at heart, but I don't think he should be tweaking the players or interfering with the team's coaching. Ugh! So the most highly touted Met pitching prospect to make it to the Mets (Kaz of course never made it) since GenK is done in because his agent had him tinker with his delivery? His agent?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 19 2007 09:28 PM

How about discussing it on another board?

Nymr83 Jul 19 2007 09:41 PM

is there any legit evidence that Boras actually does shit like this, either in general or with Pelfrey? if its true i'd never sign a boras pitcher again, but it sounds a bit "out there."

Elster88 Jul 19 2007 10:25 PM Re: Blame Boras for Mike Pelfrey's 2007?

SteveJRogers wrote: Stealing this from another board, ironcially the poster also stole it from another board: It's not even slightly ironic.

metirish Jul 20 2007 07:27 AM

It's like totally amazing that you stole it from another board and that board stole it from another board who stole it from Gammo..... Seriously though,wouldn't Boras know that he would potentially be causing injury to his client and in the long run as the piece says "alters the player's ability" hampering Boras ability to negotiate contracts for his client.

TheOldMole Jul 20 2007 07:55 AM

Gammons is a fairly reliable reporter, and if he says Boras keeps his own staff of coaches, I'd be likely to believe that. The rest is speculation. It's not totally unbelievable -- agents tend to make decisions that will benefit them, which are not always in the best interests of the players. But I woudn't swallow it whole, either.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2007 07:56 AM

I'm going to park my car there also. Gammons reliability is hinged on whether you think he oversells his trade rumours or people overbuy them.

Centerfield Jul 20 2007 09:23 AM

I did read something about that in Jayson Stark's last column. Let me find the link. Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2941630&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos2 Quote: The Mets have sent signals that they're now willing to move Mike Pelfrey in a big deal. But an official of one team that has been scouting the Mets' system says: "To be honest, I don't know if I'd take Pelfrey right now, the way he's throwing. I think he's been [Scott] Boras-ized. I'm not seeing the same stuff I saw before. And he's showing a stubbornness that rubs me the wrong way, like [the Boras operation] has convinced him that their way is the better way. I'm seeing this with his guys all over now, and it's becoming a problem all over the industry."

Edgy DC Jul 20 2007 09:34 AM

And he's showing a stubbornness that rubs me the wrong way, like [the Boras operation] has convinced him that their way is the better way. What did he actually say? And he's showing a stubbornness that rubs me the wrong way, like [Project Dipshit] has convinced him that their way is the better way. And he's showing a stubbornness that rubs me the wrong way, like [All the Powers of Heaven] has convinced him that their way is the better way. And he's showing a stubbornness that rubs me the wrong way, like [the subtle but insidious Influence of Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen] has convinced him that their way is the better way.

MFS62 Jul 20 2007 09:50 AM

The other night on the Mets telecast, one of the announcers (Hernandez? Darling?) mentioned that when Heilman joined the Mets and was in the minors, "someone" changed the arm angle of his delivery with which he had been successful as a college player, and he was pounded. I'd heard that before, but nobody has ever said (to my knowledge) who that person was. The announcer said that when Peterson got him back to throwing the same way he had thrown in college, he began to pitch well again. Could it have been one of Heliman's agent's folks who suggested the change? Is Boras his agent? Later

Edgy DC Jul 20 2007 09:57 AM

Aaron is represented by Mark Rodgers.

MFS62 Jul 20 2007 09:31 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Aaron is represented by Mark Rodgers. Thank you. I wonder if Mark is part of the "permeation" of which Mr. Stark speaks. (see the first post in this thread) Later