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The "Scrappiest" Mets

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 08:22 AM

OK, so my four-year old wouldn't sleep last night. So naturally the two of us sit in the dark watching game 4 of the '69 Series, where I heard "which number is Tom Seaver" about 50 times. Following the game, Mets Magazine was on. One of the features was a Top 5 countdown of the "Scrappiest" Mets. They did not define "scrappiest" but I think we all know what they mean. For those who did not watch, name your top 5 "Scrappiest" Mets. Note: #1 was a tie. 1. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 08:27 AM

Backman, Dykstra, Foli, Randle, McEwing.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 08:28 AM

Are we trying to guess what they had? Or coming up with our own? Is Club Scrappy still whites only? Reyes. Knight. Backman. Hunt. Stoins.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 08:31 AM

I considered Reyes, but didn't go with him because he's probably too talented to be scrappy, at least by my loose definition of the term. I should have thought of Stearns though. But maybe he's not small enough for the term to fit.

Centerfield Jul 31 2007 08:35 AM

Backman has to be #1. No one did more with less.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 08:35 AM

Backman - Yes Dykstra - Yes Foli, Randle, McEwing - No Reyes, Knight, Stearns - No Hunt - Yes And to Edgy's question - it is not an All-White club. 1. Dykstra 1. Backman 2. 3. 4. 5. Hunt

metirish Jul 31 2007 08:37 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2007 08:38 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I considered Reyes, but didn't go with him because he's probably too talented to be scrappy, at least by my loose definition of the term. I should have thought of Stearns though. But maybe he's not small enough for the term to fit. Yeah it's hard to define,my thinking is that the player should be not crap but not great,not very big,has two tools and one speed but hustles. Joe McEwing Dykstra Wiggi Pratt Agbayani of course most of the players I list are big.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 08:37 AM

Mookie?

DocTee Jul 31 2007 08:38 AM

Harrelson.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 08:42 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2007 08:43 AM

Of the three remaining: One was involved in a huge trade. One played less than 100 games in a Met uniform. One had two tours of duty with the Mets, and played in the postseason with them. The last two, to me, were surprising to make the list.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 08:43 AM

No to Mookie. No to Harrelson. Also, no to Wiggy, Pratt, and Agbayani, although one was a teammate to all three.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 08:44 AM

="Yancy Street Gang"]I considered Reyes, but didn't go with him because he's probably too talented to be scrappy, at least by my loose definition of the term. Sure, but that risks playing into the thinking that they do it with physical virtues, and we do it with moral ones. And they and we aren't always racial categories. Clearly, to too many Yankee afficianados, Jeter is one of us, the Rod one of them. But you've got to watch out for these terms spreading that kind of thinking. I expect a white player equally as talented as Reyes would generate tons of hits when his named was Googled with the word scrappy. I Google "Jose Reyes." I get 1,050,000 hits. I Google "Jose Reyes" plus "scrappy." I get 585 hits. Or 0.06% I Google "Lenny Dykstra." I get 75,900 hits. I Google "Lenny Dykstra" plus "scrappy." I get 1,140 hits. Or 1.50% Hardly exact science, but was Lenny that untalented? Was his dirt that much more meaningful?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 08:47 AM

]One was involved in a huge trade. Hubie Brooks? ]One played less than 100 games in a Met uniform. Larry Bowa? ]One had two tours of duty with the Mets, and played in the postseason with them. Lee Mazzilli?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2007 08:50 AM

I saw the episode (featuring Greg W. Flushing himself). My clue is: Last Met You'd Associate With Scrappiness, Dumb Enough Decision To Turn Off The TV In Disgust Wondering Who Gets Paid To Write This Crap

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 08:55 AM

]Quote: One was involved in a huge trade. Hubie Brooks? Quote: One played less than 100 games in a Met uniform. Larry Bowa? Quote: One had two tours of duty with the Mets, and played in the postseason with them. Lee Mazzilli? Nope to all three. ]Last Met You'd Associate With Scrappiness, Dumb Enough Decision To Turn Off The TV In Disgust Wondering Who Gets Paid To Write This Crap Well said.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 08:58 AM

Lenny F. Harris?

metirish Jul 31 2007 08:59 AM

Not Roger Cedano,I hope.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2007 09:05 AM

]Not Roger Cedano,I hope. Sorry to disappoint you.

metirish Jul 31 2007 09:07 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: ]Not Roger Cedano,I hope. Sorry to disappoint you. That'sa just funny,I guess he was scrappy when he stole 66 bases.

Kid Carsey Jul 31 2007 09:08 AM

I can't believe you guys don't watch Julie's show. It's the biggest thing on cable television. Of course, you guys probably aren't Julie Obsessed and don't have a fifty foot restraining order against you but we won't go into that.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:11 AM

1. Dykstra 1. Backman 2. 3. 4. Cedeno 5. Hunt Still looking for the Met involved in a big trade, and the Met who played less than 100 games.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 09:11 AM

C'mon, Lenny Harris --- huge trade, post-season, two tours of duty. I'd even argue that he played less than 100 games in a Mets uniform, as I'm still not comfortable with calling the black jersey a Mets uniform.

metirish Jul 31 2007 09:12 AM

LoDuca?

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:14 AM

Nyet to Lenny and Paulie. One of these guys hit John Smoltz harder than any other Met.

OlerudOwned Jul 31 2007 09:21 AM

Xavier Nady?

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:25 AM

Nady? No-dy.

metirish Jul 31 2007 09:28 AM

Doug Flynn

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 09:32 AM Poor Vic, but I think I know where this is goin'

Kevin McDonalds?

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:38 AM

No to Flynn & KMac, but as they say in the vernacular, Edgy's getting warmer.

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 09:45 AM

Mitchell?

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2007 09:50 AM

There was one cryptic clue thrown out there already. I'll add to it by saying: It was for a TV show.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:51 AM

No, but like Mitch, he played many defensive positions. One of which he played quite poorly.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 09:54 AM

So, to recap: One player: - involved in major trade - Kevin McReynolds? No, but getting warmer. - played many positions, one quite poorly Other player: - Less than 100 games as a Met - Hit John Smoltz harder than any other Met

sharpie Jul 31 2007 09:55 AM

Hubie Brooks.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 10:04 AM

Hubie Brooks has already been eliminated. One guy who was in a major trade and played many positions was Mike Jorgensen. It couldn't be him, could it?

OlerudOwned Jul 31 2007 10:12 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 31 2007 10:12 AM

Brian McRae? EDIT: nevermind, he only played in the outfield.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 10:12 AM

Not Jorgy.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2007 10:13 AM

In this major trade, did the scrappy player in question come to the Mets, or was he one of the departing players?

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 10:13 AM

I was going to say this earlier, based on the notion that scrappy could mean "gets in scraps," but I dismissed it as the stupidest notion I ever had. Now I know, guys who write for TV turn stupid notions into broadcast gold. The answer is John Cangelosi.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 10:15 AM

Cangelosi Yes! And the other player departed in a major deal.

TransMonk Jul 31 2007 10:17 AM

HahnSolo wrote: - Less than 100 games as a Met - Hit John Smoltz harder than any other Met John Cangelosi

Vic Sage Jul 31 2007 10:17 AM

brett butler?

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 10:17 AM

Keith Miller.

HahnSolo Jul 31 2007 10:20 AM

Edgy Gets It!

Edgy DC Jul 31 2007 10:23 AM

It took a while. I was mislead by the typo in your thread title. I actually thought you meant "scrappiest," but now I see that you typed that s by accident. Stupid me.

Johnny Dickshot Jul 31 2007 10:32 AM

That segment, like some rounds of the Desert-Island Mix-Tap Project, was skewed by the availability of video

G-Fafif Jul 31 2007 05:46 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: That segment, like some rounds of the Desert-Island Mix-Tap Project, was skewed by the availability of video That is the most accurate statement regarding this topic I could imagine. Or know.

Nymr83 Jul 31 2007 06:05 PM

Luis Castillo.

Willets Point Jul 31 2007 08:06 PM Re: The "Scrappiest" Mets

="HahnSolo"] They did not define "scrappiest" but I think we all know what they mean. Do they mean he's an annoying little fuck who makes you want to change the channel?

HahnSolo Aug 01 2007 06:37 AM

Yes, in Cedeno's case.