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Brewers @ Mets, 8-3

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 07:38 PM

Pedro having some issues in the 3rd, 2-0 on 3 hits. Laverne & Shirley Clark Weeks Overbay Lee Jenkinz Hall Miller Hardon Santos The Odd Couple Reyes Cairo Beltran Floyd Wright Cammy Batch Minky Pedro

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 07:39 PM

I believe this IGT kicked your nice looking lineuped boxes ass.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 07:39 PM

Brewers get back-to-back run-scoring hits with two outs. Ralph is in the booth as the Pedros trail 2-0.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 07:39 PM

Any announcement of the last time Piazza batted seventh?

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 07:40 PM

Excellent!! I never saw anything land in the magic apple hat. Oh, it went

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 07:47 PM

FUN FACTS! The Home Run Apple hat is 10 feet tall and constructed on quarter inch plywood and is apinted matte black. The levitating apple is 9 feet in diameter and built of plaster and lath, and can be raised or lowered in 30 seconds by an electric motor. It is controlled by 3 buttons labeled UP, DOWN and STOP in a booth in the Shea press area. The stem is made from a real tree stump.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 07:59 PM

Great to hear a new Choo Choo Coleman story.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:07 PM

That shift has been killing Beltran.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:09 PM

Cliff just misses number two.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:25 PM

OK, they're having some luck shifting against Beltran and Floyd. But shifting against Piazza?

Beenso Aug 03 2005 08:28 PM

classic piazza

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:30 PM

Shift 'dis.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 08:32 PM

That was an old-skool kaboom.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:50 PM

Don't let 'em dis' you this way, David.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 08:52 PM

Bringin' it Virginia Beach style! What the Hell kind of slide was that by Beltran?

TheOldMole Aug 03 2005 08:53 PM

David Wright unleashing naked power.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 08:56 PM

Way to make that error sting.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 09:03 PM

Petey whiffs 3-4-5 in an butt-crammingly dominant inning.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 09:15 PM

Bill Hall homers and now I'm wondering what we have left in the pen after last night.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 09:17 PM

Is that sweat or hair notion soaking through Pedro's cap?

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 09:33 PM

Gotta admit to being a little nervous with Berto here. Could Koo be buried any deeper? (not that I'm necessarily advocating it this second) ..

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 09:34 PM

on second thought.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 09:36 PM

Overusing Bert is seeming to be a bad idea.

TheOldMole Aug 03 2005 09:39 PM

What do you need to be butt-crammingly dominant?

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 09:54 PM

Piazza. In bidness.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 09:57 PM

In the old days, if a starter spit the bit and burned the pen, he'd go the pen himself the next day. Look for Zambrano if this goes deep.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 10:00 PM

Dammit. That was Koo time.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 10:01 PM

nerts. Obviously, these 2 guys don't have it tonight, Skip.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 10:07 PM

Tying run to the plate...

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 10:13 PM

Tying run now on first. Two-two on Cairo. Reyes looking to run.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 10:14 PM

Two outs and Beltran up. Now, Carlos, now.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 03 2005 10:14 PM

Worthless PAs by Cairo & Beltran kill us.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 10:17 PM

Pig poop. The Brews won this one yesterday by knocking out Zambrano and gassing the Mets' pen. Koo scratching his head.

metsmarathon Aug 03 2005 10:18 PM

what a waste of two terrific plays by piazza and minky... nice take-out slide. hope he didn''t end up taking himself out!

metirish Aug 03 2005 10:24 PM

Well that sucked, Beltran is a mystery and the booing will only get worse, maybe like it was for Cedano by the end of this week.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2005 10:32 PM

Not that Beltran's been playing well or anything, but the booing is going to LOSE it's sting if these idiot fans insist on booing everything that doesn't go their way. There were rumblings tonight when Pedro gave up a couple, when Looper walked off the mound (despite the fact that he worked 2 full last night and got set up by 2 IF singles tonight), and on every Beltran AB (except his 2B of course) plus about 2 or 3 other spots during the game. On the other hand ... SHITFUCK! We shoulda had this one tonight.

Edgy DC Aug 03 2005 10:37 PM

Who'll boo the boomen?

Centerfield Aug 03 2005 10:38 PM

What a curious little trend we're on. Sunday, Ishii v. Oswalt...Ishii gets knocked out early, we win anyway. Yesterday, Zambrano gets knocked around for 4 homers in 5 batters. We win anyway. Tonight, get a quality start from Pedro, we lose anyway. Strange strange game.

metirish Aug 03 2005 10:39 PM

Some of the booing has gotten so bad and predictable that I mute the TV at times, it was very strange to hear half the crowd cheer Hernandez and the other half boo him as he left the field, it's not as if Lee hit a cheap homer.

Centerfield Aug 03 2005 10:52 PM

I have a confession to make...this was all my fault. After last night's game, and the upcoming August schedule, I let myself start to think "Wow, this is the type of game that can really set off a nice little run." Last time I thought that was the Cliff Floyd game against the Angels. Sorry guys. My bad.

Rotblatt Aug 04 2005 01:08 AM

So I was at the game tonight--my first time seeing Petey pitch in person. He clearly didn't have his A game tonight, although as the weather got stickier, the better Pedro threw. His curve didn't seem to be doing its usual knee-bending buckle and his change didn't seem to have quite as much dip to it. A little hard to tell, as I was pretty far down the 3rd base line, but that was my impression. He touched 85 in the first and peaked at around 88 for most of the night, athough he hit 90 once in the 7th. He threw a ton of fastballs early, then settled into his change and curve more in the third. I think I saw a slider or two and the scoreboard says he threw an 83 mph cutter in the sixth. Santos looked better than advertised, with a zippy fastball topping out at 90 and a nice curve that he was able to throw over for strikes. He didn't break that out until the second, and I think it surprised our batters a bit--the curve was bendy but a bunch of them seemed left up. He was toast by the sixth inning--he didn't look sharp at all at that point--but we couldn't reach him for insurance runs in time . . . No one seemed too worried about the first two runs, and after Floyd launched his bomb, I think we all felt the game was in hand. Then Piazza homered and Shea was rocking. Everyone was on their feet and we all seemed to have the same shit-eating grins on our faces. I think my girlfriend was the only one to sit down when Mientkiewicz got up to bat--the rest of us stayed afoot for the curtain call. I think we all felt it was just a matter of time before we put the game away. I had some worries about our pen but figured Pedro looked game for 8 innings, then we could go to Padilla, who only threw 9 pitches last night and was used to working on back to back nights. As expected, we put up 2 runs in the 5th with Wright singling Cairo & Beltran in. Beltran, by the way, got a mix of boos & cheers until that point. Despite my severe disapointment in his performance this season, I cheered him throughout, and was thrilled with his 2-out double. Betwen the bottom of the fifth and the sixth, Petey K'ed 4 in a row, and despite his 91 pitches, I figured he'd talk his way into another two innings. By the way, I think the boos in the 7th weren't directed at Petey, but at our defense for letting Hardy & Clark's singles get through . . . Despite giving up 3 hits, Pedro's pitch count was still only at 105 and I was confident Willie would let him do his thing for one more inning. I was wrong, of course, and Robo couldn't hold the lead, although he looked pretty sharp. Once Hernandez came in, I figured we'd see Looper, and I couldn't decide if it was a good call or not. Clearly, Graves would have been a disaster, but I figured Padilla or Koo (who hasn't given up a run in the 6.1 innings Willie's let him pitch since coming off the DL & has a 7-2 K/BB ratio) would be solid options too. Loop got a raw deal, with Wright bungling two plays. The error was erased on Piazza's CS (crowd went wild for that shit, by the way. What a night for Piazza.), but he totally cut in front of Reyes, who had a much better angle, on Helms' infield single. He was clearly trying to make up for his error and his overzealosness may have cost us that play. The ump's K zone looked tight to me, but it was hard to tell . . . I was pissed at all the booing Looper got. I thought it was clear the blame should fall on either Willie or Wright, not Looper, especially after last night's heroics. A surprisingly large contingent stayed around for the bottom of the ninth and after Reyes' single, it looked like we'd tie it up for sure. I gotta say, though, Cairo did not inspire confidence in me in that spot. WIth a Valent or Diaz on the bench, I'd have pinch hit for him in a hearbeat--fastball hitters with pop against a guy who just throws heat is a much better matchup, IMO. With Beltran up, knowing that he'd get a pitch to hit, you couldn't help but hope, despite the sinking, sick feeling that he'd fucking blow it again. sigh. Some random thoughts: Mientkiewicz was a god tonight. I don't care what you all say, I fucking love watching that man play. His unassisted double play in the 5th was incredible and the way he threw himself at Weeks' feet to break up the DP in the ninth was baseball the way it oughta be. Not to mention a couple well-hit balls that unfortunately didn't lead to anything. Petey is also a god. He just ponies up when he has to and does whatever it takes to get the job done. I've always said that the idea that a player "just knows how to win" is bullshit, but he almost makes me believe. He gets determined but instead of throwing the ball hard, he'll outsmart the guy--throw him four changeups in a row then get him on a curve or some crazy shit like that. The guy's a genius and I could watch him every day of the week--"A" game or not. Beltran's trying hard--you can just see it--but we need to give him a few days off and shake things up a bit. Drop him in the order, move him to the 2 hole, whatever. We're not going to win games without him producing. Cairo's a nice batter--he takes pitches, works the count, and makes contact pretty reliably, but he doesn't have much power, doesn't get on base a lot and isn't particularly fast. He should be batting eighth, not second. I'd much rather see Cam there, or better yet, Beltran or Wright.

getalife Aug 04 2005 07:08 AM

Wow, now that's a game report. Nice.

Edgy DC Aug 04 2005 09:14 AM

People talk about having confidence in this guy, not having confidence in that guy. I think that's too black and white, and the idea of confidence in such a context is just too illusory --- something you talk yourself into. It's about who gives us the better chance to win. I would'be gone to almost anybody else besides Hernandez and Loop last night. That said, this Brewer team can mash, and the ball has been flying. I understand looking to squeeze an inning out of a strikeout pitcher like Hernandez. But if the goal was to keep the ball off the bat, I think letting Pedro start the eighth would have been the better move then.

Frayed Knot Aug 04 2005 09:18 AM

The play I thought Wright messed up wasn't the one where he cut in front of Reyes but rather the one he backed up on; he's got to charge that ball. "Decision plays" like that one are going to represent his biggest learning curve as he goes forward. Mechanically I think he's fine.

Elster88 Aug 04 2005 11:14 AM

I missed the game yesterday. Rottblatt, or I guess anyone who saw it on TV, did Piazza come out for a curtain call? Another of those, "aw shucks, these people won't sit down" curtain calls? Not that I'm trying to put him down, I personally am a huge fan of curtain calls.

Edgy DC Aug 04 2005 11:25 AM

Very reluctant. He came to the top step for exactly one second, waived over the dugout and returned. Frannie joked that Gary Carter has wasted too much time working with Piazza on throwing and needs to instead give him some curtain-call lessons.

Rotblatt Aug 04 2005 01:31 PM

Yeah, it was very, very quick. Not that anyone cared at that point . . . I wonder how his curtain call went today?