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IGT, 8/12 Fish @ Mets

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 10:11 AM

I figure to start this while I can: Ramirez DeAza Cabrera Willingham Ross Wood Treanor Amezega VandenHurk -- sounds like a Dutch superhero. Reyes Gotay Beltran Wright Delgado Alou Green Castro Perez I'd like to teach Gotay to play RF and Milledge to play 2B.

Centerfield Aug 12 2007 10:15 AM

I hate this team. I can't remember ever being more disgruntled with a first-place Mets team. Suck suck suck. I have no confidence that they will win today.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 10:18 AM

I've never even been gruntled with this group.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 10:46 AM

We saw Vandenhurk [url=http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/FLO/FLO200704190.shtml]in April[/url]. As I recall he had some great looking stuff but was so inconsistant with anything other than the fastball that we eventually started smacking him around and he was pulled after throwing a million pitches in just four innings. Of course we were actually hitting back them.

DocTee Aug 12 2007 10:52 AM

Vandenhurk started and won the Futures Game in SF this summer during the All Star Break. (And this was after having made several starts for the Fish. ) He's a native of Holland-- played, I believe, on their national team, skippered by former MFY Robert Eenhorn. I always wondered why their was a rush to sign Japanese players (Hideki Irabu, in particular) after Ichiro's success. Was there a similar rush to sign Dutch players after Bert Blyleven's success? Anyway, Vandenhurk is supposed to be a keeper.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2007 11:08 AM

Nice of Jeff Wilpon to get dressed up for the Glavine ceremony.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 11:14 AM

I'm as pleased as the next guy over Glavine's round number achievements but seems to me this was an event that, you know, deserves a domestic beer or something. Not this. Not while his team is in the dumps.

metirish Aug 12 2007 11:18 AM

It's a bizzare tribute,Glavine looks embarrassed,way over the top IMO.Gretzky saying that Glavine might have been the missing piece in the Kings 1993 Stanley Cup bid was fun.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 11:19 AM

Enough already!

metirish Aug 12 2007 11:20 AM

Ahh for fucks sake now Seaver is to speak...

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 11:23 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2007 11:25 AM

I thought they were going to do all this BEFORE game time. I coulda went out for brunch or something. Mrs. Glavine and Mrs. Glavine need to check with each other next big event they attend together (or if they did they need to stop).

bmfc1 Aug 12 2007 11:25 AM

I don't understand why this couldn't be done between 12:30 and 1. I enjoyed the fans booing Bobby Cox.

metirish Aug 12 2007 11:29 AM

Glavine is all class though.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 11:40 AM

Lotta cash and prizes for 58 wins in 4.5 years. Jesus. Leadoff HR.

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 11:41 AM

Ramirez couldn't wait to get started either, huh?

bmfc1 Aug 12 2007 11:45 AM

I am stunned: my son and I are seeing Glavine at RFK this Friday and I thought it would be cool if he wore a "Glavine 300" shirt.. they're aren't sold on the website! The Mets have actually not taken advantage of a chance to make money.

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 11:47 AM

Have one made ya cheap bastard.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2007 11:48 AM

Kid Carsey wrote: Have one made ya cheap bastard. WTF? That was a joke, right?

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 11:49 AM

Of course.

Gwreck Aug 12 2007 11:55 AM

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Lotta cash and prizes for 58 wins in 4.5 years. No kidding...and on the highlight video, they show one measly strikeout from the playoffs last year -- the time when having Glavine really paid big dividends. Strange.

Nymr83 Aug 12 2007 12:13 PM

i was annoyed at the whole big half hour ceremony thing.

TransMonk Aug 12 2007 12:17 PM

To save the IGT from being a total bitchfest: 3 Run for Alou. 3-1 Good Guys

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 12:18 PM

Freakin' Alou hits a three run KABLERAM and the kvetching continues ...

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 12:19 PM

Kiner on a Sunday, a Sunday, a Sunday. That would be so good.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 12:22 PM

That's a crappy run.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 12:25 PM

Throw was on target enough that Castro should have stayed home.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 12:27 PM

This inning sucks. Missing a fly by 13 feet. Wow.

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 12:33 PM

Inning could have been a lot worse, and I think it was only six or seven feet looking at the replay. Yanks are winning, *lick*, *lick*, *lick* ... And REYES GOES YARD TO TIE IT!!!

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 12:58 PM

Two catchers broken at once. Getting scary. And DiFelice, pulling a big-league pitch for the first time in a decade, breaks the auxialry clock with a long foul drive. I wonder if the Mets will ever bother fixing it.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 01:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2007 01:23 PM

Interesting trip around the bases for Cody Ross: Walk, Error, Error, Pick-off

Nymr83 Aug 12 2007 01:06 PM

Castro guns out a runner taking too big a lead off 3rd base. i really like this guy.

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 01:08 PM

Castro left the game with a bad back, ny.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 01:13 PM

Good pitch to throw, good throw, not in time.

Nymr83 Aug 12 2007 01:21 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: Castro left the game with a bad back, ny. thats not good. i'm on the radio not tv so i didnt even notice

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:24 PM

What I wouldn't give for a lopsided laugher by the Mets. I'm starting to doubt we''ll enjoy another of them this season.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 01:27 PM

I'd like to give a few opposing starting pitchers a short workday myself.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:29 PM

That would certainly be a good start to the "laugher" I desire.

Nymr83 Aug 12 2007 01:37 PM

more moises! less cleon.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 01:37 PM

Good Lord that old sunnavabitch can hit!

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 01:39 PM

Lead me to the promised land, Moises. And keep pitching him in, folks.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:50 PM

Mets hold a 5-4 lead going to the seventh inning stretch. I'm probably asking for a miracle, but a few insurance runs would be great. How soon before Wright or Alou bat again?

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 01:50 PM

OK, two scoreless by Sosa, the hot hand. Which of the cold hands is next?

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:51 PM

Edgy -"Which of the cold hands is next?" Please, please, please, Willie anyone but Mota.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 01:52 PM

I'm not sure that's the right call to send to your bullpen coach.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 01:55 PM

Well, Heilman, who had as bad a night as Mota plus threw about 35 pitches in his lone inning of work, is the one warming up.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:55 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2007 01:56 PM

Wow. Apparently Sosa will come out for a third inning as Willie allows him to hit for himself. Upon edit: Missed Easley pinch-hitting for Sosa on Gameday. I thought Willie had lost his mind there for a moment.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 01:56 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: Wow. Apparently Sosa will come out for a third inning as Willie allows him to hit for himself. No, Easley PHed and walked.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 01:59 PM

I caught my mistake too late. I was flipping between computer screens and I'm pretty sure I saw Sosa's picture when they were flashing the Strikeout for DeFelice. Computer game casts can be a maddening experience sometimes.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 02:02 PM

My eyes may not have been playing tricks on me as now Gameday is reprting that Dan Uggla is making a defensive switch from secondbase to secondbase while Amazega switches from firstbase to firstbase.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 02:04 PM

That part is correct, they did that as part of a double-switch with the pitcher change.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:04 PM

Hanley is human?

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 02:09 PM

I figured out there was a double switch with Uggla entering the game to hit in the pitcher's spot, but the way Gameday had it written made virtually no sense. They have since corrected it to actually make sense. Meanwhile, the Mets strand two and fail to score any insurance runs.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 02:10 PM

For those of you scoring at home (or even if you're alone): Heilman in - hitting 2nd in the order. Castillo in - hitting 9th replacing Gotay

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 02:20 PM

Ahhhh, breathing room!!

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:21 PM

Big day for the Violent Femmes. We get "Blister in the Sun" and "Gone Daddy Gone" in one day.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2007 02:21 PM

Uggla's a nice hitter but a bad 2nd baseman. He had a ton of time to make that play.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:22 PM

Home town scoring has turned two Marlin errors into Met hits.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:31 PM

Welcome to 2007, Mike Dee.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:34 PM

If there wasn't a duck on third, I'd let Heilman hit.

seawolf17 Aug 12 2007 02:38 PM

Jose Reyes, scoring -- standing up -- from first -- on a ground ball to second.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:39 PM

Two RBI. On a dribbler.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 02:45 PM

The Marlins have no errors today. Dear Mr. Commissioner, Please professionalize official scoring. Love, Edgy

seawolf17 Aug 12 2007 02:46 PM

Dear Edgy, Stop trying to mess with our batting averages. Love, The Mets

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 02:54 PM

Tomorrow's emergency meeting of Wound Lickers Anonymous is canceled. Anyone feeling the need for one, please email us ... some of us CARE.

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 03:02 PM

Sure, I leave and the game becomes the blowout, laugher I had been desiring. Still, it's nice to return home to find the Mets had won.

seawolf17 Aug 12 2007 03:11 PM

Best team in the National League, bitches. (Except for that whole Arizona-has-a-better-record thing.)

Valadius Aug 12 2007 03:39 PM

Thank God we put up numbers like we're supposed to!

Rockin' Doc Aug 12 2007 04:11 PM

seawolf - "Best team in the National League, bitches. (Except for that whole Arizona-has-a-better-record thing.)" Yeah, but we own Arizona's ass.

Kid Carsey Aug 12 2007 04:24 PM

Val:>>>Thank God we put up numbers like we're supposed to!<<< The Mets are supposed to score ten runs a game? I'm glad that them doing so pulled your head off the sore for a day, but sheesh, you'll be back on it before long with those fantasy standards.

Elster88 Aug 12 2007 05:41 PM

Centerfield wrote: I hate this team. I can't remember ever being more disgruntled with a first-place Mets team. Suck suck suck. I have no confidence that they will win today. Not to just single out CF, but what's the deal? Does anyone member 1992? 1993? 2003? There have been plenty opportunities to be miserable. This year is not one of them. Leave the misery to Sal.

Gwreck Aug 12 2007 06:16 PM

I think it's still a hangover effect from last year when making the playoffs wasn't in doubt starting around Memorial Day. That being said, they are still playing worse than their record suggests, I think.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 06:19 PM

They are 65-52. Pythagoras says their record should be 64-53.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 06:28 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 13 2007 07:17 AM

It's just not a year with dominant teams. Arizona is hot and on top but were floundering three months ago. Los Angeles was ahead of the Mets and on top of the west seven weeks ago and (I called it) is now barely above water. (I really think 'Zona and 'Rado are looking good down the road.) Only the Angels and the Yankees have currently won more than two in a row; only the Yankees have won more than three. Maybe either the dumber or the smarter GMs are out of baseball these days (or both), but there are no teams over .600 and none under .400.

TransMonk Aug 12 2007 06:36 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Maybe either the dumber or the smarter GMs are out of baseball these days (or both), but there are no teams over .600 and none under .400. TB still falls under .400, but they are close at .388. I swear this year is like going through 2000 all over again...not only with the Mets, but with the league too. We can complain about the Mets all we want, but I can't find a single dominant team this year in either league. I think fans of all teams over .500 can still find many things to complain about.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2007 06:44 PM

Sorry, I forget to think of TB as a big-league team.

Johnny Dickshot Aug 12 2007 07:28 PM

This year is like 2005 more than anything. That year we found a level at .500 and stayed a game or two above/below it all year long. This year, our level is a bit higher but we're just as stuck. I thought for a while maybe that it was a good thing the Mets hadn't "peaked" yet -- last year, I think, they peaked too early. Now I think there is no peak. They are what they is.

TransMonk Aug 12 2007 08:00 PM

1999:2000::2006:2007 - at least that's how I see it. I think the 2005ers played to their potential. 2007 is playing way below it IMO.

DocTee Aug 12 2007 09:09 PM

Speaking of parity... No divsional leader has more than a 4 game advantage on any other club. And half the teams are within 5.5 games of their division leader. That may make for a quiet waiver deadline, since so many ar so seemingly close.

cleonjones11 Aug 12 2007 09:29 PM

Kid Carsey wrote: Castro left the game with a bad back, ny. Dont Think Castro will be out long but Jerry Grote looked pretty good on Kiner day

Elster88 Aug 12 2007 10:14 PM

TransMonk wrote: 1999:2000::2006:2007 - at least that's how I see it. I think the 2005ers played to their potential. 2007 is playing way below it IMO. The 2000'ers played about a mile over their heads. Check out the starting outfield from the WS.