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Edgy DC Aug 06 2007 10:18 AM

NGB= Net games back, a team's total games back behind all teams in front of them. It's a three-team race, in reality. The volume of intra-division play over the next three weeks should push one team out of the picture. A cold streak could prove disastrous, and a hot streak could make Septemeber about getting healthy. Just treading water wouldn't be so bad either. Team W L % GB NGB New York 63 48 .568 -- -- Atlanta 59 53 .527 4.5 4.5 Philadelphia 58 53 .523 5.0 5.5 Florida 52 60 .464 11.5 25 Washington 51 60 .459 12.0 27

Gwreck Aug 06 2007 10:57 AM

5-1-1 in series since the ASB. I'm actually fairly comfortable with those leads as they stand right now. That being said, I think winning at least 2 against Atlanta is mandatory. Especially with our 3 best pitchers (Perez, Hernandez, and Maine) going. Note that with Maine's short outing on Saturday, they shifted the rotation to make sure they had the top 3 going.

TransMonk Aug 06 2007 11:06 AM

Gwreck wrote: ...I think winning at least 2 against Atlanta is mandatory. Especially with our 3 best pitchers (Perez, Hernandez, and Maine) going. Agreed. 2 out of 3 HAS to happen. A sweep would go a long way toward putting the Braves away in the NL East race.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 06 2007 11:33 AM

Really, 1 out of 3 would still be okay. It would only allow the Braves to gain one game on the Mets. I'd rather see the Mets gain a game than lose a game, of course, but the only way this series is disastrous for the Mets is if they lose all three.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2007 01:27 PM

Check out Manny Acta's troops, tying Florida for fourth. Eat it, Bonds. Team W L % GB NGB New York 64 50 .561 -- -- Atlanta 51 54 .530 3.5 3.5 Philadelphia 60 54 .530 4.0 4.5 Florida 53 62 .461 11.5 27 Washington 53 62 .461 11.5 27

Edgy DC Aug 19 2007 09:04 PM

Philadelphia is currently on top of the the Braves-Phils see-saw battle for second, but five solid games out. The sweep this weekend not only destroyed DC, but fried Florida, as they also lost three. Those two are buried but good, but they're still welcome to beat up on the Braves and Phillies. Tampa Bay, with a tragic number of 13, is almost certain to be the first team eliminated. Again. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 70 53 .569 -- -- -- Philadelphia 65 58 .528 5.0 5.0 35 Atlanta 65 59 .524 5.5 6.0 34 Florida 56 68 .452 14.5 33.0 25 Washington 55 69 .444 15.5 37.0 24

metirish Aug 19 2007 09:11 PM

Turned out to be a good road trip after all.

Edgy DC Aug 23 2007 08:12 AM

Manny Acta's troops, after opening the season with predictions of 120 losses, have pulled out of the cellar. Loria's fighting with and firing Joe Girardi is looking worse every day. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 71 54 .568 -- -- -- Philadelphia 66 59 .528 5.0 5.0 33 Atlanta 66 61 .520 6.0 7.0 31 Washington 57 70 .449 15.0 34.0 22 Florida 56 71 .441 16.0 38.0 21

metirish Aug 23 2007 08:34 AM

Willis needs to get the hell outta there....and come to the Mets and meet a bunch of his old mates.

Rockin' Doc Aug 23 2007 11:13 AM

metirish - "Willis needs to get the hell outta there....and come to the Mets and meet a bunch of his old mates." As long as we're dreaming here. If Willis wants to bring Miguel Cabrera along with him, to be a corner outfielder, I won't mind.

duan Aug 23 2007 03:21 PM

i think we'd be happy with him replacing a certain mr delgado at the appropriate moment.

Elster88 Aug 23 2007 03:57 PM

Rockin' Doc wrote: metirish - "Willis needs to get the hell outta there....and come to the Mets and meet a bunch of his old mates." As long as we're dreaming here. If Willis wants to bring Miguel Cabrera along with him, to be a corner outfielder, I won't mind. 8-12 4.91, 159.1 IP, 193 H, 100 R, 87 ER, 20 HR, 9 HBP, 65 BB, 112 SO

Nymr83 Aug 23 2007 04:05 PM

theres gotta be an undisclosed injury there, either way i'd steer clear.

Edgy DC Aug 24 2007 09:59 PM

Mets gain a game on everybody in the division except the Nats. Plus, they knock Los Angeles 3.5 back in the Wild Card race. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 72 55 .567 -- -- -- Philadelphia 66 61 .520 6.0 6.0 30 Atlanta 66 62 .51 6.5 7.0 29 Washington 58 70 .453 14.5 31.0 21 Florida 57 72 .442 16.0 37.0 19

Willets Point Aug 25 2007 11:02 AM

Edgy DC wrote: Mets gain a game on everybody in the division except the Nats. Plus, they knock Los Angeles 3.5 back in the Wild Card race. Bitchin'!

Edgy DC Aug 25 2007 08:41 PM

And... we have a 5-1 final in Colorado, the Rocks over the Nats. The real winner today was San Diego, beating the Phils and opening up a four-game pad over them in the Wild Card race. This series is probably Philadelphia's best chance. Most every other Wild Card applicant --- Atlanta, Los Angeles, Milwaukee --- lost also. Colorado, at 4.5 games out, is the nearest winner. Florida has won one of the last 11. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 73 55 .570 -- -- -- Philadelphia 66 62 .516 7.0 7.0 28 Atlanta 67 63 .515 7.0 7.0 27 Washington 58 71 .450 15.5 32.5 19 Florida 57 73 .438 17.0 39.5 17

vtmet Aug 25 2007 08:56 PM

Braves are 7 games out, but even nicer is the fact that they have 8 more losses than the Mets (whereas, eventhough the Phils are also 7 games out, they have only lost 7 more games than the Mets...so eventhough both are back the same amount, IMO it's easier to win 1 more game than it is to lose 1 less)...

Willets Point Aug 25 2007 09:17 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Florida has won one of the last 11. And to think that I was nervous about them at the beginning of the season.

Elster88 Aug 25 2007 11:06 PM

Edgy DC wrote: The real winner today was San Diego, beating the Phils and opening up a four-game pad over them in the Wild Card race. This series is probably Philadelphia's best chance. Most every other Wild Card applicant --- Atlanta, Los Angeles, Milwaukee --- lost also. Colorado, at 4.5 games out, is the nearest winner. Sounds like a good thread topic to me.

Nymr83 Aug 25 2007 11:30 PM

The lead is starting to look comfortable. The Braves/Phillies aren't bad enough for the Mets to run away and hide like last August, but I sure like 7 games.

Elster88 Aug 26 2007 10:17 AM

Seven games in the last week of August is pretty close to hiding.

vtmet Aug 26 2007 12:19 PM

Elster88 wrote: Seven games in the last week of August is pretty close to hiding. Didn't the '73 Mets come back from a larger deficit?

Elster88 Aug 26 2007 01:10 PM

*sigh*

SteveJRogers Aug 26 2007 01:20 PM

vtmet wrote: ="Elster88"]Seven games in the last week of August is pretty close to hiding. Didn't the '73 Mets come back from a larger deficit? So did the '78 Yankees, '51 Giants, '14 Braves, '64 Cardinals (well them I don't know, but the Phillie collapse was so historic they need to be lumped in) ect, ect, ect. There is no need to feed the panic jumpers' paranoia by bringing up historic comebacks/collapses when there is no real context of doing so.

Edgy DC Aug 31 2007 07:24 AM

It may be time to take a cue from Wally Backman and start growing some beards again. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 73 60 .549 -- -- -- Philadelphia 71 62 .534 2.0 2.0 28 Atlanta 69 65 .515 4.5 7.0 25 Florida 58 76 .433 15.5 40.0 14 Washington 58 76 .433 14.0 40.0 14

Edgy DC Aug 31 2007 09:50 PM

One knocked off of Philadelphia's elimination number, and two off of everybody else's. It may be time to take a cue from Wally Backman and start growing some beards again. Team W L % GB NGB E# New York 74 60 .552 -- -- -- Philadelphia 72 62 .537 2.0 2.0 27 Atlanta 69 66 .511 5.5 8.0 23 Florida 58 77 .430 16.5 42.0 14 Washington 58 77 .430 16.5 42.0 14

Edgy DC Sep 01 2007 10:34 PM

Nats and Fish win. The two teams that matter... don't. Atlanta is wobbly and we could land a real haymaker tomorrow. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 75 60 .556 -- -- -- 4-6 W2 Philadelphia 72 63 .533 3.0 3.0 25 6-4 L1 Atlanta 69 67 .507 6.5 10.0 21 3-7 L2 Florida 59 77 .434 16.5 40.0 11 3-7 W1 Washington 59 77 .434 16.5 40.0 11 3-7 W1

Willets Point Sep 01 2007 11:00 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Atlanta is wobbly and we could land a real haymaker tomorrow. As Brian Wilson would say, wouldn't it be nice.

Edgy DC Sep 02 2007 07:04 PM

The sweep has allowed the Mets to retake half of the ground lost to the Phils. They and the Braves are likely realistically paying more mind to the Wild Card race. The Nats and Fish have matched each other win for win and loss for loss the last few days, but both have a chance to be eliminated before the week is out. The Nats and their fans, at least have something to look forward to for the franchise. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 76 60 .559 -- -- -- 5-5 W3 Philadelphia 72 64 .529 4.0 4.0 23 6-4 L2 Atlanta 69 68 .504 7.5 11.0 19 3-7 L3 Florida 60 77 .438 16.5 38.0 10 4-6 W2 Washington 60 77 .438 16.5 38.0 10 3-7 W2

DocTee Sep 02 2007 08:56 PM

Edgy ]The Nats and their fans, at least have something to look forward to for the franchise. What would that be? Other than stadium issues (they have a new one on the horizon, and the Fish don't--at least not in SoFla), I think hte Marlins have a much brighter future and core around which to build: Cabrera, HanRam, Uggla, D-Train, Jacobs, Willingham--- I think the two most identifiable Nats--Dmitri Young and Nick Johnson--play the same position!

Edgy DC Sep 04 2007 07:47 AM

The Nats don't have stadium issues. They have a new stadium next year, with the impression that new stadium revenues will lead to spending. The Marlins are being in run on an austerity budget while being shopped around for a sale and a probable move. Nats fans have a big-league team to look forward to, while Fish fans probably don't. Plus they have a talented young Metly manager who has won three in a row and is winning the battle for fourth place. FOURTH PLACE, LADS! Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 77 60 .562 -- -- -- 5-5 W4 Philadelphia 72 65 .526 5.0 5.0 21 6-4 L3 Atlanta 70 68 .507 7.5 10.0 18 4-6 W1 Washington 61 77 .442 16.5 37.0 9 3-7 W3 Florida 60 78 .435 17.5 41.0 8 3-7 L1

metirish Sep 04 2007 01:24 PM

Edgy any chance you might add WC info to those standing?

Edgy DC Sep 04 2007 01:25 PM

Sure, but... you know, that's not our race.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 04 2007 01:26 PM

With a five-game lead, I'm not thinking wild card. If it gets down to two again, that'll be a different story.

Edgy DC Sep 05 2007 08:11 AM

We've had a fugly loss by the B-teamers, followed by a day off. Still, some elimination numbers dwindled in the interim. It can be like fighting drunks sometimes. You stand back, enjoy the flailing, and let them knock themselves out. In the midst, I've got to again praise Manny Acta's troops for holding their ground and going down with dignity. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 78 61 .561 -- -- -- 5-5 L1 Philadelphia 73 66 .525 5.0 5.0 19 6-4 L1 Atlanta 71 69 .507 7.5 10.0 16 4-6 W1 Washington 63 77 .450 15.5 34.0 8 5-5 W5 Florida 60 80 .429 18.5 46.0 5 3-7 L3 In the consolation division, Arizona's charge into the Western lead has left San Diego alone atop the Wild Card race. Milwaukee tying Chicago may drop the Cubs into the second race, where Atlanta has passed the Cards also. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 76 63 .547 -- -- -- 6-4 L2 Los Angeles 74 66 .529 2.5 2.5 21 7-3 W1 Philadelphia 73 66 .525 3.0 3.5 21 6-4 L1 Colorado 72 67 .518 4.0 6.5 20 6-4 L1 Milwaukee/Chicago 71 68 .511 5.0 10.0 19 6-4/5-5 W2/L1 Atlanta 71 69 .507 5.5 13.0 18 4-6 W1 St. Louis 69 68 .504 6.0 16.0 19 6-4 W1 Cincinnati 63 77 .450 13.5 68.5 10 3-7 W1 San Francisco 63 77 .450 13.5 68.5 10 5-5 W1 Washington 63 77 .450 13.5 68.5 10 5-5 W5 Houston 62 78 .443 14.5 78.5 9 5.5 L2 Pittsburgh 61 79 .436 15.5 89.5 8 3-7 L1 Florida 60 80 .429 16.5 101.5 7 3-7 L1

Edgy DC Sep 09 2007 10:37 AM

Be nice to the Marlins today. It may be the last day you see them in the East Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 80 61 .567 -- -- -- 7-3 W2 Philadelphia 74 67 .525 6.0 6.0 16 5-5 W1 Atlanta 73 69 .514 7.5 9.0 14 5-5 W3 Washington 63 79 .444 17.5 39.0 4 5-5 L2 Florida 61 81 .430 19.5 47.0 2 4-6 L1 There's been very little movement in the last two days in the wild card world, with all the real contenders splitting the last two games, save for Atlanta, who is making what is likely to be thier last charge. In doing so, the Braves have slowed the DC Juggernaut in the botom half. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 77 64 .546 -- -- -- 5-5 W1 Los Angeles 75 67 .528 2.5 2.5 19 6-4 W1 Philadelphia 74 67 .525 3.0 3.5 19 5-5 W1 Colorado 73 68 .518 4.0 6.5 18 6-4 L1 Atlanta 73 69 .514 4.5 8.5 17 5-5 W3 Milwaukee/Chicago 72 69 .511 5.0 11.0 17 5-5/7-3 W1/L1 St. Louis 69 70 .496 7.0 20.0 16 5-5 L2 Cincinnati 64 78 .451 13.5 68.5 8 4-6 L1 San Francisco 64 78 .451 13.5 68.5 8 4-6 L1 Washington 63 79 .444 14.5 78.0 7 5-5 L2 Houston 62 80 .437 15.5 87.5 6 4-6 L4 Pittsburgh 62 80 .437 15.5 87.5 6 3-7 L1 Florida 61 81 .430 16.5 99.5 5 4-6 L1

Edgy DC Sep 11 2007 09:46 AM

Congrats to the Nats, whose continued late season resurgence not only allowed them to last longer in the East than the Marlins, but to be the team that finished the fish off. Tonight, on the other hand, may be the Nats last stand. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 82 61 .573 -- -- -- 9-1 W4 Philadelphia 76 67 .531 6.0 6.0 14 5-5 W3 Atlanta 73 71 .507 9.5 13.0 10 4-6 L2 Washington 65 79 .451 17.5 37.0 2 7-3 W2 In the wildcard deal, lacklustre play from San Diego has allowed the Phils a little hope with their three-game lead --- Philadelphia passing the Dodgers for second place. Milwaukee and Chicago refuse to extricate themselves from each other, and St. Louis' four-game losing streak sets them only three games off the division pace. Washington has caught San Francisco as the best team in the back of the pack. Congratulations are also due to Pittsburgh who has celebrated it's leadership change with a long overdue passing of Houston. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 77 65 .542 -- -- -- 4-6 L1 Philadelphia 76 67 .531 1.5 1.5 19 5-5 W3 Los Angeles 75 68 .524 2.5 3.5 18 5.5 L1 Colorado 74 69 .517 3.5 6.5 17 6-4 L1 Milwaukee/Chicago 73 70 .510 4.5 10.5 16 7-3/5-5 L1/W1 Atlanta 73 71 .507 5.0 13.0 15 4-6 L2 St. Louis 69 72 .489 7.5 25.0 14 4-6 L2 San Francisco 65 79 .451 13.0 66.5 7 4-6 L1 Washington 65 79 .451 13.0 66.5 7 7-3 W2 Cincinnati 64 79 .448 13.5 71.0 7 3-7 L2 Pittsburgh 64 80 .444 14.0 76.0 6 5-5 W2 Houston 62 81 .434 15.5 90.5 5 3-7 L5 Florida 61 83 .424 17.0 110.5 3 3-7 l3

Edgy DC Sep 13 2007 08:02 AM

Losing the last two versus Colorado has been murder --- mur-diddly-urder --- for the Phils, knocking three games off their elimination number and dispiriting the whole scene. I'm partly surprised the fans didn't burn the stadium down after the Rocks 12-0 win last night. Between that trouncing and John Smoltz's comments last night after the Mets-Braves game, we can kind of look at last night as the night the rest of the division cashed in their chips. Washington, of course, is out of chips. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 83 62 .572 -- -- -- 8-2 W1 Philadelphia 76 69 .524 7.0 7.0 11 4-6 L2 Atlanta 74 72 .507 9.5 12.0 8 5-5 L1 Special thanks to Philadelphian pitchers, though, for giving Colorado a chance to make a run at San Diego in the card race. The Friars have had every chance to put this thing in their pocket and they refuse, and I don't want to see some team winning this by standing still. Three-way tie for second, yo. Chicago and Milwaukee, still tied, as they are every other day, which is pretty much how often I update this. St. Louis. Crashing. Burning. Only hope they have is that they have more games in hand than anybody else. Check out Cincinnati trying to catch them even after the thrashing the Mets gave them last week. It's so cute! Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 78 66 .542 -- -- -- 4-6 L1 Colorado 76 69 .524 2.5 2.5 16 7-3 W2 Los Angeles 76 69 .524 2.5 2.5 16 6-4 W1 Philadelphia 76 69 .524 2.5 2.5 16 4-6 L2 Milwaukee/Chicago 74 71 .510 4.5 10.5 14 6-4/4-6 L1/W1 Atlanta 74 72 .507 5.0 13.0 13 5-5 L1 St. Louis 69 74 .483 8.5 34.0 11 2-8 L6 Cincinnati 66 79 .455 12.5 62.0 6 4-6 W2 San Francisco 66 80 .452 13.0 66.0 5 4-6 L1 Pittsburgh 65 81 .451 14.0 75.0 4 6-4 W1 Washington 65 81 .445 14.0 75.0 4 6-4 L2 Houston 63 82 .434 15.5 91.5 3 2-8 L1 Florida 63 83 .432 16.0 109.5 2 4-6 W2

Edgy DC Sep 14 2007 08:07 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 14 2007 10:32 AM

Too many threads are tracking the jockeying, but I might as well finish this off. The Phils picked up a half game last night. Whoop-de-damn-doo. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 83 62 .572 -- -- -- 8-2 W1 Philadelphia 77 69 .527 6.5 6.5 11 5-5 W1 Atlanta 74 72 .507 9.5 12.5 8 5-5 L1 But it does launch them ahead of Colorado into a tie with LA, only a game and a half off the wild card behind the Frustrating Friars. The Cubs have shaken free of Milwaukee, for a day at least, dropping the Brews solo into the pack of wild card chasers. But it was merely an off-day for the Beermakers, so Chicago shouldn't get too happy yet. The continued collapse of St. Louis --- accellerated by the Reds, of all people --- is amazing Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 78 67 .538 -- -- -- 3-7 L2 Los Angeles 77 69 .527 1.5 1.5 16 6-4 W2 Philadelphia 77 69 .527 1.5 1.5 16 5-5 W1 Colorado 76 70 .521 2.5 4.5 15 5-5 W1 Milwaukee 74 71 .510 4.0 10.5 14 6-4 L1 Atlanta 74 72 .507 4.5 13.0 13 5-5 L1 St. Louis 69 75 .479 8.5 37.0 10 2-8 L7 Cincinnati 67 79 .459 11.5 58.0 6 5-5 W3 San Francisco 66 80 .452 12.5 66.0 5 4-6 L1 Pittsburgh 65 81 .445 13.5 75.0 4 6-4 W1 Washington 65 81 .445 13.5 75.0 4 6-4 L2 Florida 63 83 .432 15.5 97.0 2 4-6 W2 Houston 63 83 .432 15.5 97.0 2 2-8 L2

Willets Point Sep 14 2007 10:23 AM

Edgy DC wrote: The continued collapse of St. Louis --- accellerated by the Reds, of all people --- is amazing And very pleasing as well.

Edgy DC Sep 14 2007 10:38 AM

For a long time there were contenders in that race and just teams hanging around, and big gulf between, but now St. Louis is closer to the back pack than the front one. Still only four freaking games out of first.

Edgy DC Sep 15 2007 12:34 PM

Not gonna happen, Phillies. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. New York 83 63 .568 -- -- -- 7-3 L1 Philadelphia 78 69 .531 5.5 5.5 11 6-4 W2 Atlanta 75 72 .510 8.5 11.5 8 6-4 W1 Hey, San Diego finally showed some heart, eking out a 5-4 win ove rSan Fran, and holding Los Angeles and Philadelphia back at 1.5 behind day longer. Meanwhhile, Atlanta passes Milwaukee. Hey, Brewers, get back into first in the NL Central. This isn't the race you want to be in. St. Louis' backslide is now at eight games. Eight. Cincinnati, a diivision joke after getting swept by the Mets a few weeks back, is now only two games behind the defending champs. Also climbing from the cellar is Pittsburgh, loving their new leaderless state and catching San Francisco. Florida hangs on for another day, but Houston is eliminated from the Wild Card --- as noted elsewhere --- before being eminated from the NL Central. And that's just sad. Team W L % GB NGB E# L10 Str. San Diego 79 67 .541 -- -- -- 4-6 W1 Los Angeles 78 69 .531 1.5 1.5 15 6-4 W3 Philadelphia 78 69 .531 1.5 1.5 15 6-4 W2 Colorado 76 71 .517 3.5 7.5 13 5-5 L2 Atlanta 75 72 .510 4.5 11.5 12 6-4 W1 Milwaukee 74 72 .507 5.0 14.0 12 5-5 L2 St. Louis 69 76 .476 9.5 41.0 8 1-9 L8 Cincinnati 68 79 .463 11.5 55.0 5 6-4 W4 Pittsburgh 66 81 .449 13.5 71.0 3 6-4 W2 San Francisco 66 81 .449 13.5 71.0 3 4-6 L2 Washington 65 82 .442 14.5 81.0 2 5-5 L3 Florida 64 83 .435 15.5 98.0 1 4-6 W3

TransMonk Sep 15 2007 12:52 PM

Florida and Washington still have "elimination numbers", but they have both been eliminated. The elimination number takes into account only the W-L records and games remaining, but not the games remaining between teams. There is no possible scenario of outcomes left where Florida or Washington will win the WC because all of those NL West teams play each other so many times.

Edgy DC Sep 15 2007 01:33 PM

Yeah, ah know.